Sao Paulo Reports

[Robotron]

Nothing comes close in terms of luxe vibe and number of legit hotties. Imagine the nicest club you have ever been to, with live band and party atmosphere. Add a huge terrace. Add a 3. 5 star hotel attached. Add that every girl in the club wants to fuck you. Voila. Scandallo.

While websites are often misleading, Scandallo's is spot on. This virtual tour will give you an idea.

http://scandallolounge.com.br/tour-virtual/

Note that its interactive and u can virtually walk around the club.

I don't speak spanish and don't club so have to step my game up and learn fast.

I was going to budget 5000 USD total to spend 2 weeks in Colombia since it seems the girls average 20 to 85 USD there. Whats the average here in reals for normal or street girls plus the min / max range to spend on a Scandallo girl?

Is it preferred to use the hotel in the club for those hookups? Couldn't find the room rate.

Thanks.

[Nounce]

...Sometimes there is a grey area in quality issue ....

The odds are much better at Palms because 1. The owner will give you information about the girls. 2. the rooms seem more consistent and better or you can ask for it. 3. You can reject the girl ONCE and make a different pick in the room.

Would one of the girls named Sky, a petite blonde spinner? Oops, I just gave away one. Haha. I understand your thinking, but the girls are just there for the taking, it's not like others don't know where to meet these girls.

[SamaRiding]

I can only speak with statistical accuracy of Boate, Clinica, Terma and high-end Escort girls and sadly 90% of the girls I have been with have insisted on CFS at least on our 1st time together with only 1 in 30 (3%) of the no's willing to accept a 100 to 200 tip offer to go bareback. BBBJ's are still the default, however. This is the only complaint I have with Brazilian girls. If you are like some of my pals over in the Asian ISG forums, then Brazil is not for you.

I second this. Almost all girls will refuse BBFS if you ask even offering a tip. I think the easiest way to NOT get BBFS is to ask the girl for it. For me, 5-10% will be a great session and the girl will just do it when she gets in the mood. More likely to get it with repeats with regulars, about 30%.

[Axel Heyst]

That is how the pricing work in high end clinicas. I won't go to Lotus lounge because there is no consistency and even water costs twice as palm, LOL. It's a gamble. You may get a room and a girl like a low price clinica. It's not worth it. I would just to go Scandallo.

The Palms, Taj Mahal, Sharon, & Lotus make up the highend boutique clincias in SP. Sometimes there is a grey area in quality issue which is created mainly because there is no line up in the high price boutique clinicas, only phot shopped pics from which to make a decision, so not all the high end boutique girls that I end up in bed with are the equal to tier 1 or tier 2 Scandallo types and sometimes I have a girl at these boutique casas that is no better in the looks department than a slightly above average girl at Prime or Abboboro, but sometimes I hook up with a real looker and a keeper. That is the gamble when I go to these high-end casas. And the reverse is true as well. Sometimes I have gotten lucky and met a regular clinica girl that is as good as, as attractive as most Bomboa girls and I wonder why she is working in a regular clinica fucking maybe 5 guys a day and getting only 200 BR per session. I don't know.

But I like both types of clinicas and the boates. That is the choice part of the equation. Here is a rough breakdown of the situation: Abboboro, my favorite regular place is 360 BR on the credit card of which the girl gets 200 BR. I believe it is the most expensive of the regular clinicas. I like it because I can usually find a girl that looks doable to very pretty and the sex is ALWAYS real damn good. I have had some wild times in Abboboro and Prime that's for sure.

The Palms, Taj Mahal, Sharon, & Lotus make up the high-end boutique clinicas. The full price is 640 BR (Sharon & TAJ) and up to 750 BR (the Palms) on the credit card of which a Palm girl gets 350 BR. Don't ask me to identify my 2 favorite Palm girls because I won't. KKK. I put in the leg work and made the $$ investments, won some and lost some, KKK, so I will not share my hard-earned results except to say my 2 favorite Palm girls are top caliber in looks and performance and they could easily pull in 700 BR or 800 BR maybe more per session in Scandallo.

So, for me the most important question of the morning after I enjoy my coffee, juice, and breakfast at my hotel buffet is; do I feel like getting it on in the early afternoon or do I want to wait until 9:30 pm. Ha Ha. If I am in the mood for afternoon sex, the next question I ask myself is; do I want to have real good sex with a down to earth SP girl for 360 BR max or do I want to have real good sex with a potentially upscale boate quality girl at one of these expensive boutique clinicas, or do a sure thing with one of my repeat high end clinica favorites) in the afternoon for twice the price of a regular clinca girl, which is also half the price of a quality boate girl (700 BR+500 BR (consumable)+240 BR (room) minimum) in the evening.

That is my choice: 360 BR (or less) vs. 750 BR (or less) vs. 1440 BR (or more) or various combos of the 3. I also have the option of calling one of my favorite boate repeat girls like Valeria and inviting her over to my hotel for the evening (5 to 7 hours / multiple shags / no sleepovers) for 900 BR not including wine, weed, and dinner. What a life! I am happy when I am in SP.

[SamaRiding]

Fellow mongers and others wanted to run this by you all for your thoughts. I am planning a clinica visit and started the WhatsApp chatter. I got into a clinica named Lotus Lounge great looking chicas but when the pricing comes on the responder is quoting me for: 380 reales for the room plus another 400 reales for the therapist. Total of 780 reales for one hour. Is this the norm? Or Lotus Lounge not a clinica?

Meanwhile I have been corresponding with Dubai Spa and also not bad selection of chicas and the pricing scheme is 300 reales for cash or 330 reales for card for the hour. No additional room charges.

Would you experts shed some light into this.

Seems that if there are two charges (girl + room) in clinicas, then it is almost up there like Scandallo.

Any body used Lotus Lounge before?

TY in advance.

Lotus is high end clinics. Search the forum for "high end clinicas" and you find many SP posts describing these. There many cost levels in this mega city and quite a few establishment that would rival the costs in the USA. Many rich Brazilians willing these prices and a lot more. Search for pink sheet girls.

[DustyRode]

That is not quite correct. Some restaurants will add 10-13% service charge to your bill. Some will ask you if you want service charge included. You can decline. There is a discussion about tipping at Bombia too.

I don't think there is a dress code requirement at clinicas. I wear shorts all the time, and never have a problem. Some customers may go to clinica during break or after work, then they may be more formal. If one observes that, then one would think that is how a customer should dress.

There is a waiter at Bomboa. He was a good guy and was always there when I needed a drink. He asked me for a tip when I checked out to leave. I was paying the girl and he came over and asked if I could give him a tip as well. I did. It was no big deal. I never tipped anywhere else in Brazil except for the Uber drivers.

[KilledSoul]

I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing.


This is definitely not Asia or Africa.

This is the main reason why I will stick to Colombia instead of Brazil as almost all chicas will do bareback after two sessions.

[Nounce]

...My other question is about tips. Now I recall reading on here that tips are not part of the culture in Brazil and that tipping a girl is not required. Do you guys ever tip at restaurants or normal bars for GREAT...

That is not quite correct. Some restaurants will add 10-13% service charge to your bill. Some will ask you if you want service charge included. You can decline. There is a discussion about tipping at Bombia too.

I don't think there is a dress code requirement at clinicas. I wear shorts all the time, and never have a problem. Some customers may go to clinica during break or after work, then they may be more formal. If one observes that, then one would think that is how a customer should dress.

[Nounce]

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Any body used Lotus Lounge before?

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That is how the pricing work in high end clinicas. I won't go to Lotus lounge because there is no consistency and even water costs twice as palm, LOL. It's a gamble. You may get a room and a girl like a low price clinica. It's not worth it. I would just to go Scandallo.

[Nounce]

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Oh! One more thing. I know that taking a cab / Uber to the clubs can incur an extra cost to some Boates. What about leaving? Is it better to walk a few blocks and order a ride? Or is that inviting getting mugged at 3 am?

That is not something you need to worry about. There is no extra cost. The only thing that you really have to look out for near Casarao is your phone, keep your distance away from people on bicycle.

[Combo]

What does it have exactly? I read on a different forum a guy gave one girl from there 5000 USD for the week, and pointed out he only did CBJ / CFS. I don't bar hop or goto clubs even in the states, so no experience and outfit. What would be the expectation to go or do the girls make it easy for those reserved individuals?

There's no need to spend anywhere close to that money. Also BBBJs are the norm in Brasil, moreso than in Colombia (though you're always best confirming with the chick beforehand). With regard to BBFS, I do not look for it, regardless of the country. The guy you refer to sounds like a sucker.

[Septimius]

1) Why don't you RTFF and take note of some of the joints that receive positive reports? Then google the fucking name. Example: Abboboro, Sao Paulo. If you are really feeling industrious, you can make your own Google map.


4) Dress Code? Ha Ha. SP is all about the weather. If it is warm out, a clean nice-looking t-shirt, jeans, and running shoes are fine, but it can get chilly at night, so pack a good fall jacket in your suitcase just in case. No boate girl will look down on you for wearing a sporty shirt with a collar. Being in shape and having good hygiene is far more important than what you wear.

Hello there. I've never been to Brazil but I'm planning a trip and have been reading the Rio and San Paulo forums along with General info and places to stay. Most of the information I'm looking for I have found but I still have about 100 pages left until I catch up to the current times! My questions are pretty general and I was wondering about the clothing thing. I'm a shorts guy and hate wearing jeans. While the nicer establishments like Scandallo require a nice shirt and a pair of jeans how about some of the clinicas? Will I stick out like a sore thumb wearing shorts just walking around town? I'm always hot and unless it's below 40 degreesF, I'm good.

My other question is about tips. Now I recall reading on here that tips are not part of the culture in Brazil and that tipping a girl is not required. Do you guys ever tip at restaurants or normal bars for GREAT service? If so what's a normal rate?

My plan is to visit some of the places mentioned on here and dive right in! For me, there's always a certain amount of uncertainty when mongering to new destinations but I'm in love with Brazilian women and I need to check this place out!

[Axel Heyst]

I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing. Another regular agreed, only to insist on coitus interruptus later when we were at it. A bit unexpected considering these girls were otherwise happy-go-lucky with forbidden substances ...

Valeria, my favorite Scandallo girl, told me it was fear of pregnancy that was her primary hindering block to our having bareback sex. Who fuck knows if this is true or not, KKK, I don't even try follow the logic in the mind of a working girl, but after our 10th or 12th time together, we barebacked.

SP ain't Makati, Phnom, Yangon, or CGK that's for sure, but I still like it here.

[Krilimag]

Fellow mongers and others wanted to run this by you all for your thoughts. I am planning a clinica visit and started the WhatsApp chatter. I got into a clinica named Lotus Lounge great looking chicas but when the pricing comes on the responder is quoting me for: 380 reales for the room plus another 400 reales for the therapist. Total of 780 reales for one hour. Is this the norm? Or Lotus Lounge not a clinica?

Meanwhile I have been corresponding with Dubai Spa and also not bad selection of chicas and the pricing scheme is 300 reales for cash or 330 reales for card for the hour. No additional room charges.

Would you experts shed some light into this.

Seems that if there are two charges (girl + room) in clinicas, then it is almost up there like Scandallo.

Any body used Lotus Lounge before?

TY in advance.

[GattoRojo]

I apologize GR if my post came down too hard on you. But just mentioning "strip clubs" in the same paragraph as SP Boates is like pouring nitro glycerin on a barbeque. It sets me on fire. KKK.

Not at all, man! You also gave good advice while slapping my wrist, all good! It's your country / city. If anything, it helps me know how to approach it all. Just like knowing how to respectfully approach hobbying in Japan makes all the difference in whether you have a good soapy time or get treated like an "Ugly-American".

I don't mind throwing down some money if it's all in pursuit of a unique experience, and from all accounts, Scandello seems to be just that. I'll have to see what dinners cost when I get there, but at least I know going in that it's not going to be the trash "buffet" that I was worried about. I do like to hang out after a session, if it doesn't feel weird. Sometimes, soloing makes you stand out, and sometimes it doesn't matter. I'll figure it out. Like you say, I'll only know once I'm there.

Casarao opens at 10 until 5 or 6 in the morning. You don't want to go too early. It is more like casa than a boate because the popular girls fuck multiple guys per night. You can observe near the door, and you can sometimes see experienced mongers wait there and scoop them up right after the girl just have a session. I met a group of expats did exactly that, They would only pay for dry entry, fuck then leave.

Appreciate both of your insights into Casarao. Sometimes that kind of "immediate action" is fun. I didn't realize that there was a "dry entry" option. I wonder if that will even be offered to a non-Portuguese speaking gringo?

At the end of the day, I think I have a pretty decent idea now of the larger landscape.

Oh! One more thing. I know that taking a cab / Uber to the clubs can incur an extra cost to some Boates. What about leaving? Is it better to walk a few blocks and order a ride? Or is that inviting getting mugged at 3 am?