Sao Paulo Reports

[ParsTiger]

Friday isn't dead but isn't on fire either. I'm too drunk to count so there could be anything from 50-150 girls here, lets say 100.

20-40 Redheads and blondes. Maximum of 8 are natural. Probably only 1-3 real reds. 5 tops have clear eyes verde or azul.

Maybe 5 Asians / japinhas.

2 straight up look like men.

And quite a few 40+.

I can't be blown away because after all I've been lurking for years.

You can probably only have 2 drinks before going over the cover. If you were here Friday Night 3/26 I was the tall bearded guy with a tiger shirt.

[Axel Heyst]

I always avoid these kinds of disappointments by making it clear with the girl what I want, and getting her agreement, before we go to the room. Some guys don't like to engage in this kind of "negotiation" because they need 100% spontaneity. All I have to say is if you don't ask and you get to the room and she doesn't do "that", then you have nobody to blame but yourself. These girls have heard it all, and done a lot of it too LOL!

We obviously have two different approaches which is totally fine with me. Both ways work more or less. All I will say about why I prefer not to negotiate and lay it all out ahead of time is that I like the spontaneity as you rightly noted. Another way of describing it is that it feels more like picking up a regular girl instead of a hooker which is part of the GFE fantasy I like to engage in. Even more important, however, is the fact that I know the girls know what I want in broad general terms and I can usually accurately sense how we are doing on that score in the bar before I ask them upstairs or out. For example, I have never taken a Boate girl, a Terma girl, or a Go Go girl upstairs or out of a bar before we have had an enjoyable make out session and more and I get the sense that the vibe between us is real good. I think that positive vibe I get or don't get is a more reliable predictor of future bedroom events than a written contract. LOL. But a small percentage of girls will always get past my screening technique and under perform, disappoint from time to time by not getting into the sex and not giving me their passion. That is human nature. The object, of course, is to minimize those unfortunate lackluster sessions by spotting those kind of girls ahead of time.

If there is a specific request above regular sex like CIM or Anal than yeah, a little pre-negotiation before you go upstairs is called for. A punter has far more negotiating leverage before going to the room than after he is in the room. Something extra will always cost more money in the room. KKK. But a certain percentage of girls will underperform even if you explicitly negotiate certain items with them beforehand and they agree to those terms. Bad girls are dishonest girls. The main advantage of Boates, Termas, and Go Go's is that customers have the opportunity to get to know a girl or girls thanks to the audition process, and again, the object should be to find the girls you have good rapport with and to weed out the ones that you don't. It also helps if you enjoy drinking and flirting with bar girls which I really do. For me it is all part of the evenings entertainment. Guys who want to cut this part out of the program most likely prefer Clinicas, Prives, and Oily massage parlors anyway. In those latter places the girls work for the house, so the reputation of the house is the implied guarantor of a good time, LOL.

[ParsTiger]

I went to Abbobora and was told by a local cost was 300 (room 100, girl gets 200). Card didn't work so I paid in cash they charged me 130 anyway? I'm not the kind of guy to argue with people when I'm a guest in their country though. About 10 girls presented themselves (one at a time) only about 4 were standouts. I chose a tall Morena named Moniqe with a huge bunda assuming she'd do anal. I chose wrong. Not bad just mediocre session and ID say she was 30-35. I regretted not choosing the young redhead. Later on after walking around too much I went back to 57 House where another seasoned expat informed me I should've never paid more than 280. Because of my limited purchase options (my CC only works maybe 30% of the time here) I'm going to be forced to begin triaging. I'm trying to stay in Brasil at least 30 days.

[Fewdie]

If an average or above girl from anywhere in the world pays me for sex, I would accept the offer too.

This makes all the sense in the world, I know plenty of girls in the US that danced at strip clubs to pay for college, often seeing guys outside for cash. Not that rare anywhere, it seems the boates are just the much better comparative for our strip clubs. Not hard to believe this at all.

[Fewdie]

I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one". I would tell certain individuals that are close to me who I know who doesn't "prejudge". The majority of society if not all does prejudge about everything including people's profession, race, religion, appearance, and all of that stuff similar to how many of you prejudge if they have an education or not. Sometimes its better to say less. I have gone through endless years of higher education and I can tell you there are many people with professional degrees who I have way less respect than the girls and staff and the security guards at Scandallo.

The questions I wonder about are will I marry one? If I marry one, will I tell others her profession? Does self esteem has anything to do with either?

[Mlee3]

Anyone around SP Thursday or Friday want to meet up? Been going solo the past couple days and figure it would be nice to meet up with some more seasoned vets.

What time you headed there, planning on 8 pm.

[The Cane]

I ended up paying one 1000. She was beautiful, but the sex wasn't out of this world for me. She wouldn't let me touch or eat her pussy, which I really like. She did BBBJ and was good at sex though. The sex at the clinica was a lot better, but the girl was not as stunning as the Scandallo girls.

I always avoid these kinds of disappointments by making it clear with the girl what I want, and getting her agreement, before we go to the room. Some guys don't like to engage in this kind of "negotiation" because they need 100% spontaneity. All I have to say is if you don't ask and you get to the room and she doesn't do "that", then you have nobody to blame but yourself. Don't be ashamed to ask for what you want either. These girls have heard it all, and done a lot of it too LOL!

[Nounce]

...I was only talking to the girls I found most attractive and that spoke English...

I think based on your clinica experience, you should give other girls a chance. You can ask the girl what she will or will not do using translator in the club before going to the room.

[Nounce]

...poor self esteem.

The questions I wonder about are will I marry one? If I marry one, will I tell others her profession? Does self esteem has anything to do with either?

[Nounce]

Not only your mileage may vary, but your price may vary as well. YPMV LOL. ....

Would you share some Colombia Seeking profiles or pictures that you have considered but rejected or no longer needs? That will provide some context on what you talk about.

[MiamiBoy1]

I went to Scandallo for the first time earlier this week. It's a nice club. I was impressed by the atmosphere. It had a lot of fun walking around, talking to so many beautiful women. The food wasn't bad either. I was not able to get the prices many on this forum have mentioned. The girls all wanted 1000 to 1500 for a short time upstairs. I offered 500,600, 700, even up to 800 with the girls. They all refused. Two beautiful girls offered a threesome and wanted 3000 total. Holy shit. They would not accept less. I'm in my 30's, moderately attractive, fit, but definitely a gringo. I felt like the girls were trying to take advantage of me for that. I thought eventually I'd find one to accept something under 1000, but no luck. I think I might try going again next week, but I'm a bit discouraged by the prices.

I've had some great experiences at the clinicas though. I had a session yesterday. The girl was very good, and I came faster than I had expected. I assumed our session was done and took a shower. After the shower, the girl asked me for more. I thought it was just a ploy to get me to pay for another hour or something, but it wasn't expensive, so I figured why not. It turned out not to be a ploy. I was ready to leave, but she wanted to fuck again. It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing too. I was very surprised how into she was. We were both dripping with sweat when we finished. I loved watching her body convulse when she came too. Awesome experience.

Not only your mileage may vary, but your price may vary as well. YPMV LOL. Folks say they pay or used to pay 500 in 2021 (see one of the recent posts). Brazil got hit with post-covid inflation? Or there is an influx of gringos? Go figure.

[LionsNTigers]

I met two of the girls in the hotel lobby and were dressed like regular guests. When I walked by they caught my eye and stood up and introduced themselves to me. They were sitting right by the front door. One spoke English but the other was prettier. The one who spoke English asked me if I wanted one of them to go to my room with me. Since I had a companion for the night that was much prettier, younger and built like a model I politely told them I was occupied for the night.

I like that team approach.

[HughJass]

That's what I like about the clinicas. It's fixed price. No negotiation. Almost all of the clinicas, except for a few, you pay the clinicas and they will give the girl her portion at the end of day. Price is for time spent. First phone ring is at 50-55 minutes, and the second phone ring is 5-10 minutes after. I have had plenty of sessions go over the second ring and I never got charge more. In most clinicas, you pay the receptionist after and they don't know if you just got a massage or came 5 times. Probably 90% of girls will allow one shot for 30 minutes and two shots for 1 hour.

Oh, okay. I guess my experience wasn't out of the ordinary then. I'm used to 1 hour meaning 1 shot. I had my one shot about 30 minutes in and then showered and was getting dressed to leave when she invited me for more. I'm not sure why she just didn't let me leave. We went again until they called. Pretty awesome experience nonetheless though.

What time were you at Scandallo? I am curious what these expensive Scandallo girls look like. I have never been quoted price that high. I am thinking it is because I dressed poor, haha. If you can't negotiate price, try negotiate time instead.

I was there from 9 pm to 1 am, and I was dressed moderately well. I was only talking to the girls I found most attractive and that spoke English. Maybe it's the English premium. What shocked me is that they turned down 800. Even if they are trying to take advantage of a gringo, it surprises me they would let me walk when offering 800.

They're working you based on the exchange rate because you're a gringo. You know what the rate is, and so do they. Do not give one of those tutes more than R1,000!

I ended up paying one 1000. She was beautiful, but the sex wasn't out of this world for me. She wouldn't let me touch or eat her pussy, which I really like. She did BBBJ and was good at sex though. The sex at the clinica was a lot better, but the girl was not as stunning as the Scandallo girls.

[LionsNTigers]

Any monger who thinks that garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society has poor self esteem.

I agree, I don't look down on sex workers and don't think anyone should, especially in other parts of the world that haven't been suffering from hysterical puritanism that stigmatizes sex and sex work like we do in the US. In the US many are doing it because it's all they can do, but many others are doing it because they like it and are good at it, and I think that's great. I also think the rise of twitter and onlyfans and other platforms that allow women more autonomy has been incredibly positive, both for women controlling what they do.

[WonderWhy]

This week I am at the Hilton Double Tree in Ibaim. I have to leave Sunday afternoon but will be back the next Wednesday till Sunday again. I do have two girl friends who are jealous of my time but I would be up to meet for a lunch or something.

I'm here till Monday so I'm down for it. I've spent most of my time putting out fires like Uber not wanting to work or finding working ATMs etc. I think paying 60+'per night is paying for itself in the form of hotel employees that speak English.