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  1. #14427
    Quote Originally Posted by HughJass  [View Original Post]
    I've had some great experiences at the clinicas though. I had a session yesterday. The girl was very good, and I came faster than I had expected. I assumed our session was done and took a shower. After the shower, the girl asked me for more. I thought it was just a ploy to get me to pay for another hour or something, but it wasn't expensive, so I figured why not. It turned out not to be a ploy. I was ready to leave, but she wanted to fuck again. It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing.
    That's what I like about the clinicas. It's fixed price. No negotiation. Almost all of the clinicas, except for a few, you pay the clinicas and they will give the girl her portion at the end of day. Price is for time spent. First phone ring is at 50-55 minutes, and the second phone ring is 5-10 minutes after. I have had plenty of sessions go over the second ring and I never got charge more. In most clinicas, you pay the receptionist after and they don't know if you just got a massage or came 5 times. Probably 90% of girls will allow one shot for 30 minutes and two shots for 1 hour.

  2. #14426
    Quote Originally Posted by HughMyron89  [View Original Post]
    Anyone around SP Thursday or Friday want to meet up? Been going solo the past couple days and figure it would be nice to meet up with some more seasoned vets.
    I'm here till Monday so I'm down for it. I've spent most of my time putting out fires like Uber not wanting to work or finding working ATMs etc. I think paying 60+'per night is paying for itself in the form of hotel employees that speak English.

  3. #14425

    Rate

    Quote Originally Posted by HughJass  [View Original Post]
    I went to Scandallo for the first time earlier this week. It's a nice club. I was impressed by the atmosphere. It had a lot of fun walking around, talking to so many beautiful women. The food wasn't bad either. I was not able to get the prices many on this forum have mentioned. The girls all wanted 1000 to 1500 for a short time upstairs. I offered 500,600, 700, even up to 800 with the girls. They all refused. Two beautiful girls offered a threesome and wanted 3000 total. Holy shit. They would not accept less. I'm in my 30's, moderately attractive, fit, but definitely a gringo. I felt like the girls were trying to take advantage of me for that. I thought eventually I'd find one to accept something under 1000, but no luck. I think I might try going again next week, but I'm a bit discouraged by the prices.
    They're working you based on the exchange rate because you're a gringo. You know what the rate is, and so do they. Do not give one of those tutes more than R1,000!

  4. #14424

    First Time at Scandallo and Clinicas

    I went to Scandallo for the first time earlier this week. It's a nice club. I was impressed by the atmosphere. It had a lot of fun walking around, talking to so many beautiful women. The food wasn't bad either. I was not able to get the prices many on this forum have mentioned. The girls all wanted 1000 to 1500 for a short time upstairs. I offered 500,600, 700, even up to 800 with the girls. They all refused. Two beautiful girls offered a threesome and wanted 3000 total. Holy shit. They would not accept less. I'm in my 30's, moderately attractive, fit, but definitely a gringo. I felt like the girls were trying to take advantage of me for that. I thought eventually I'd find one to accept something under 1000, but no luck. I think I might try going again next week, but I'm a bit discouraged by the prices.

    I've had some great experiences at the clinicas though. I had a session yesterday. The girl was very good, and I came faster than I had expected. I assumed our session was done and took a shower. After the shower, the girl asked me for more. I thought it was just a ploy to get me to pay for another hour or something, but it wasn't expensive, so I figured why not. It turned out not to be a ploy. I was ready to leave, but she wanted to fuck again. It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing too. I was very surprised how into she was. We were both dripping with sweat when we finished. I loved watching her body convulse when she came too. Awesome experience.

  5. #14423
    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrl01  [View Original Post]
    Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?
    What do you think? True or not, I say it says nothing.

  6. #14422

    Biblical

    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrl01  [View Original Post]
    Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?
    If you lay down with a tute, then you too are a tute? Hahahaha!

  7. #14421

    Side note:

    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]
    I've met real Brazilian women lawyers and doctors, some very attractive, through work.

    There are not any of them at the termas or prives.

    Whoring may be legal in Brazil, but it is still the bottom 5 or 10% of society.
    Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?

  8. #14420
    There are med students and lawyers in Scandallo, I know I did a few. There is not a rigorous entry requirements for law, med, dental schools in BR so basically if they an pay the tuition at a private school you're in. Med school is about 10,000 R a month so yea either they have rich fam or work and will make about 10,000 R a month when done. Dental and law school is about 2000 R a month because coming out of school they make 3-4000 R a month so you will find them working still at boates or sites. Why some are educated and still work is because of the low salary and the high cost of living in SP and when they are use to making 10-20,000 R a month it's hard to give up that lifestyle. In Scandallo there are all sorts of clients, ones that just go there to party and dance with girls and others that want to fuck so they know gringos have money and want to fuck that's why you get more attention. There are big rollers too, I know girls that got 50,000 R a month from her sugar and another 30,000 R but this setup usually doesn't last too long because the guy gets tired of paying and wants to fuck other girls. These girls are easily spotted as well taken care of girls and during the pandemic this happened a lot when the boates were closed. The hot ones that are smart builds up a clientele and stops going to the boates until the well starts running dry. Getting bad service is uncommon in BR but shit happens if the girl knows she doesn't need to see you again.

    Bareback is possible if they are willing to get tested together. The one's that don't care, imagine how many they fucked bareback? Like I said before, it's difficult to build chemistry if you don't speak Porto. My ability to speak Porto, be super nice and take them on vacations is the secret to my success at getting a GFE. Sometimes I pay them sometimes I don't. I'm sure some of you can relate to this recipe for success.

    Now the exchange rate is 4.7, like I said stop paying gringo prices because when history repeats itself and becomes 1.5 again, how many are still willing to pay 1000 R / HR or 2000 R per night?

  9. #14419
    Anyone around SP Thursday or Friday want to meet up? Been going solo the past couple days and figure it would be nice to meet up with some more seasoned vets.

  10. #14418
    I can confirm that one of the girls at Scandallo will be a doc.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Totally agree with Hobbying. More importantly, high rates do not guarantee a good service. One of the recent reports mentions CBJ, which is outrageous at this price point. No matter how hot she is, $300-$400 is a lot of money for 1 day of work in Brazil and she has to earn it. The issue I see here is that Scandallo girls are working girls, and they see and treat you as clients. Some poster said earlier that many of them are doctors, lawyers, etc. I really doubt it, have you ever seen a smoking hot young doctor or lawyer? I haven't. It takes years of studying, internships, etc to become one, and all the stress gained along the way adds up and affects the looks. It is a good selling strategy to say you are a doctor / lawyer etc. Because that helps to jack up the price. Some guys would say, yeah, it is pricey, but you pay to be around beautiful girls, at a nice establishment, bla bla bla, but at the end of the day, we are all here to fuck, and what happens in the bedroom matters the most. To me, this looks like a pricey bet. You see a hot girl, but you have no idea what kind of service you will get, but you have to discuss the price upfront, make your bet and see if it pays off. Like at any other venue. The difference is that in Rio, for example, it could be 50%-70% less expensive. In Bogota and Medellin I can guarantee you can get any smoking hot goddess for less than $200 overnight, anything over $100 would be sufficient. My take is that Scandallo is a good place for folks who are not price sensitive, for all others there are better places out there.

  11. #14417

    One Hell of a 1st Day. Milan at Bomboa

    I arrived at 0800 Wed sevely jet lagged. Cash exchange place in airport lobby ripped me off and took a 200 are fee so I was limited cash wise. It took me 3 hours to get to my hotel in Ibirapuera (I got lost without WIFI trying to look for a tim store) hotel didn't want to take my credit card and only debit worked. I have quickly learned that not only Brasilians rarely speak English but no English at all unless they're a traveled professional. If someone is fluent in Spanish they might survive ok. I then nearly wasted a few more horas at the El Dorado mall where the tim store was unable to get a Brasil sim card to work in my phone (region locked), so I had to buy an ancient Brasil phone for 100 are. This screwed up a lot of plans because for awhile I couldn't download important apps until I just made a new google account to the Brasil phone.

    Number. All my "study material" is still on the other phone. So its 1500, I've been awake 24 h+ and I have a phone but I can't get uber to download. I humped it 4 kilos to my hotel because fuck taxis. And this is the nice part of SP I've been told by more than 1, Brazilian drivers show remarkable discipline not hitting people. I finally collapsed in the hotel room when I got there and woke up around 9. After cleaning up and getting the phone issue somewhat resolved I went to Bomboa! I definitely was only American but a few other customers could speak English and were extremely chill and helpful. Kinda small place but I was told by the English speaker that Bomboa is superior to Scandallo because of relaxed atmosphere. Mostly fake blondes but a morena with green eyes caught my attention. Room fee+consumcion was 460, I had 1 drink and chicken dinner. Garota was 500 and she was willing to try anal but I was too big. Very nice girl she spoke some Engl I had a nice convo with her after finished and told her the truth about American (high living costs, politicians etc). Europe is better than USA except covid tyranny which guns negate to an extent in USA. She was willing to pernoite for 1000 are because she understood I was tired and by 0100 all the rooms were busy. Also I've been warned about the water unsafe to drink.

  12. #14416
    Now I know why some of these girls think I'm handsome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbying  [View Original Post]
    Drug dealers are always in the boites so it's always around. Girls tell me at least 50% of the girls do drugs. To cope most do xtacy while working, k to relax, coc with clients since its expensive.

  13. #14415

    Scandallo: scammers?

    I did 8 girls at Scandallo during my stay. Only one turned out to be some sort of scammer (insisted on covered BJ etc.). I lost 600 R. All the same, one in eight is a scamming rate I can live with given the quality of girls there.

  14. #14414
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    ISanta Fe street walkers charge $10-$15 per session, but you usually get what you pay for and can't really complain because you fucked a girl for the price of a lunch at Whole Foods. Scandallo girls charge much more, and you expect an impeccable service. But can you imagine a Scandallo hottie performing like a SF girl? Bunch of rules, I don't do this, I don't do that, watching the clock, etc? Easily.
    I don't know where you are getting this stuff about Scandallo girls. Pardon me, but I don't remember reading one of your SP Scandallo reports, so I have to ask if you speaking from 1st hand experience or just blowing smoke?

    I have done around 25 Scandallo girls and probably an equal number of Bomboa girls in my two 2021 trips to SP and I never had a bad session. In fact some of my boate sessions rank among the best sex I have in the last 10 to 15 years and that is saying a fucking lot, 555, because in the last 20 years, up until Covid, I spent 2 to 3 months a year fucking around in BKK, Pat, PNH, CGK, RGN, MNL, HKG, and MFM.

    My only complaint about my Boate girls, Clinica girls, and my RJ Terma girls is Bareback vaginal sex is rare. In fact, to date only 3 Brazilian girls have given me bareback sex (only 4% approx). Of course YMMV, I hope it does, but my experience with Brazilian hookers is that they are very passionate in bed, but they want the condom for vaginal or anal sex no matter what I say to persuade them to go bareback. This is my only complaint with Brazilian hookers. I know some guys who consider this a deal breaker and they choose to remain in SE Asia. Not me.

    Anyway, I never negotiate. I will invite a girl I like the looks of over for a drink and an audition which includes a little conversation, kissing, & touching. At some point in the interview I will decide if I want her or not and if I want her I'll ask if she wants to go upstairs. Once in a while a girl preempts me and asks if I want to go up stairs with her. In either case it is at this point that we briefly discuss money. Specifically, I have had Scandallo girls ask 1000,900, 800,700, 600,500, or say "up to you" for a ST romp. But unless her offer is 500 from the get go, I will just discretely hold up the palm of my hand and say 500 with a smile and BINGO, they all accept my 500 offer and that is the end of that. Only one time did a Scandallo girl counter my 500 offer with 600. She was hot and I didn't feel like negotiating further or passing on her, so I accepted her 600 counter offer. What do locals pay? I am not sure, but it would not surprise me if many of them pay 400 for ST.

    But like I said, I never discuss what sex I want or how I want it. I feel negotiation of terms takes away from the spontaneity of the session and the vibe I am trying to establish with my girls. I think I am pretty successful with my approach: In Brazil alone I have had no bad sessions, a hell of a lot of really good, passionate sessions, and an extraordinary number of memorable ones compared to similar stats in BKK, Pat, & CGK. This is the reason, plus ongoing covid entry restrictions in SE Asia, that I am returning shortly to Brazil for my 3rd visit in 12 months. I have spent a lot of time all over Colombia back in the day. Colombia girls are hot, I love the mountains, and I can speak Spanish more or less, but I overall prefer Brazil and their woman.

    So my opinion and experience is that boate's have the top selection of girls and that these girls offer up some of the most passionate sessions I have had in recent memory. IMHO, the high quality of Scandallo boate girls and their sexual prowess is worth the $$ The condoms pain me a lot more than the money, believe me, but I think I will have to go back to Jakarta to enjoy barebacking again or find a Brazilian GF. KKK.

  15. #14413
    Quote Originally Posted by LionsNTigers  [View Original Post]
    Hey fellas,

    Question about hotels and registering guests, as I have only been the one time and didn't have an issue last time.

    I am going to have a friend (a local, but a civilian) stay with me for a few days on my next trip. I am staying at the Renaissance and have asked them to make it a 2-adult stay (no additional charge with my rate). I'm curious about what signals will go with that. Will a receipt show both names, or even that there were two guests? Will they want to have her officially on the register in some way, or just want to have the reservation setup for two people and no other interest or inquiry?

    Her idea was to have a second room reserved for her so it doesn't show up and none of my colleagues see her leave my room, which I think is so unlikely I am not concerned.
    Don't cheat. Ahahahahahahahahaha.

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