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  1. #14261

    SP Asians.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Good update thus far, keep 'em coming!

    So do you recall if your date, Gabriella, thought the number of Chinese and Koreans frequenting Scandallo, is a recent thing or always been that way?

    Just curious and was wondering, if our Chinese and Korean mongering brothers are perhaps shifting their activities from places like the AC in the Philippines and perhaps temporarily focusing on giving Brazil more of a spin?
    There is a large Asian community in SP, mostly Japanese and Chinese. You will see groups of local Asian men in Scandallo. They live in Brazil and maybe even born in Brazil. I would say the large majority of Asian men in Scandallo are local. I met a few Asian guys from the US. Maybe in the past there were travelers from Asia, but since COVID I have not met an Asian monger from Asia in SP due to the travel restrictions on leaving and returning to those countries.

  2. #14260
    70% is super exaggerated. 20% is the ceiling and that's on a rare day.

    It's not Chinese / Korean or whatever race that they like. Its the money that they like and they know they can get more from Asians and foreigners. Girls at Scandallo are there for the money 100% and don't care how famous and like-able the client is. If the price is right for them. You win. They always tell me how much they like me and how good looking I am. And I know for sure they are lying! LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Good update thus far, keep 'em coming!

    So do you recall if your date, Gabriella, thought the number of Chinese and Koreans frequenting Scandallo, is a recent thing or always been that way?

    Just curious and was wondering, if our Chinese and Korean mongering brothers are perhaps shifting their activities from places like the AC in the Philippines and perhaps temporarily focusing on giving Brazil more of a spin?

  3. #14259

    New friends in Scandallo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Singe247  [View Original Post]
    ... Found out from her that a lot of Chinese and Koreans frequent Scandallo, on some days they make up 70% of the dudes in the room. Just an interesting tid bit. ...
    Good update thus far, keep 'em coming!

    So do you recall if your date, Gabriella, thought the number of Chinese and Koreans frequenting Scandallo, is a recent thing or always been that way?

    Just curious and was wondering, if our Chinese and Korean mongering brothers are perhaps shifting their activities from places like the AC in the Philippines and perhaps temporarily focusing on giving Brazil more of a spin?

  4. #14258
    You paid 1000 for 1 hour?

    Quote Originally Posted by Singe247  [View Original Post]
    Landed in Sao Paulo early in the morning after a long journey. Very tired and jet lagged still.

    Some good and bad luck at the airport. They sent me to a trainee immigration officer who took at-least 15 minutes to stamp me through. Everyone else was breezing past me!

    I went on to declare the cash I was bringing in (I had submitted the E-DBV form to customs before my trip and had a paper with me), walking through the "goods to declare" line I was totally prepared to be taken in to a room and asked questions with the money being counted etc. Lo and behold the guy took one look at the paper, signed and stamped it and off I went. Whole process took about 3 minutes. Didn't even bother to look at the cash.

    Took an Uber to my hotel and got my room upgraded, lady at reception was kind enough to check me in early as well. Showered and went to a nearby cambio. They told me they are only allowed to exchange USD 1000 per day per exchange. Some bullshit exchange law. I could however go to multiple exchanges to exchange amounts over that..

  5. #14257

    Sao Paulo Report. Day 1

    Landed in Sao Paulo early in the morning after a long journey. Very tired and jet lagged still.

    Some good and bad luck at the airport. They sent me to a trainee immigration officer who took at-least 15 minutes to stamp me through. Everyone else was breezing past me!

    I went on to declare the cash I was bringing in (I had submitted the E-DBV form to customs before my trip and had a paper with me), walking through the "goods to declare" line I was totally prepared to be taken in to a room and asked questions with the money being counted etc. Lo and behold the guy took one look at the paper, signed and stamped it and off I went. Whole process took about 3 minutes. Didn't even bother to look at the cash.

    Took an Uber to my hotel and got my room upgraded, lady at reception was kind enough to check me in early as well. Showered and went to a nearby cambio. They told me they are only allowed to exchange USD 1000 per day per exchange. Some bullshit exchange law. I could however go to multiple exchanges to exchange amounts over that.

    Back to the hotel and off to sleep.

    I wake up starving, order some very very expensive room service. (need to find local places to eat). Shower again and off to the mecca of our hobby. Scandallo!

    Now my impressions of the place might be slightly scandalous.

    Maybe it was a bad day generally, or the fact that it wasn't a weekend but I found the quality of the girls to not quite be as star studded as I had come to expect. Maybe my expectations were set too high or my standards. I don't know. I don't think I saw many above 7's. I few rare sprinkled 8's in my book. That was it.

    Don't get me wrong 7's and 8's are good and I did sample a fine young girl in the room. She was good, tame in the club itself but very bubbly in the room. All was as expected not a bad experience at all but it did not blow my mind; maybe due to the short session. She spoke almost perfect English so that was a big reason why I chose her to get a lay of the land. I am calling her today whenever she wakes up which will probably be at like 4 pm LOL. I'm going to go around some parts of the city with her. My very own translator eh! I don't think I'm going to fuck her again though. I'll probably also want to meet her again in Scandallo tonight and ask her to introduce me to her friends or if I need help translating with someone. She's a nice friendly girl that way by the name of Gabriella.

    Found out from her that a lot of Chinese and Koreans frequent Scandallo, on some days they make up 70% of the dudes in the room. Just an interesting tid bit.

    Food was also very average LOL, ordered the breaded chicken with some kind of sauce. Maybe I just had a bad day at Scandallo. Still not making final judgements until I spend a few more nights with a wider variety of women.

    The crowd in general had many Brazilian men who tend to get a little drunk and then very loud and handsy with the ladies. 3 of the girls there told me they don't prefer Brazilian men and generally gravitate towards Asian men.

    The staff, security and waiters were all super friendly. Quite a few spoke English or enough words to get by. A surprising amount of women also spoke English. Some like Gabriella were near perfect in the language.

    Paid 1 k to Gabi, 230 Real for the room and 555 Real while checking out. For that amount I had 2 waters, 1 orange juice, 1 Black Label with Coke, a pack of cigarettes with a lighter and a meal at the restaurant.

    Another piece of very specific and random advice- when checking in to the rooms at Scandallo. Ask the lady at the counter to give large condoms. The small ones barely fit halfway and the well endowed gentlemen will tend to have an issue here.

    Xx.

    Woke up very early today due to jet lag. Had a hearty breakfast. I'm off now to another fucking cambio to exchange dollars. Very annoying.

    I'd just like to thank everyone in the forum that answered questions and to all the members that have posted detailed reports and experiences in the past. Without those posts, I would never have come to SP or know how to do anything. Obrigado.

    Will try and report again tomorrow when I have more to share. Please excuse any grammar or structural errors in the report.

  6. #14256
    Quote Originally Posted by Khondjii  [View Original Post]
    ...Is that a factor?
    I don't know. Most apartments are pretty nice with doorman. Some apartments are built like a prison with double gates and security in tower so to speak. LOL.

  7. #14255

    I finally get to return to Sao Paulo

    My last trip was in 2018. I have been missing it greatly! Joao (RIP) introduced me to Tangara my first trip and I was hooked. I will be arriving on March 19 and returning to USA on April 3. However I have to work about 2 hours drive away on 21, 22, 23 and 28, 29.

    I will be staying in Jardins or Moema so if any of you would like to meet, I will be there.

    My experience was mostly the clinicas because of Joao. I did try one photoaccompanhantes which was one of the worst disasters I have experienced. The rest has been wonderful!

    I have three girls who have kept in contact with me from the previous five visits. They are all excited to have me back so it will be interesting how my time goes.

  8. #14254
    Quote Originally Posted by NiceFirst  [View Original Post]
    Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.
    I wonder if sometimes AirBnb (or private apartment) would not be repulsive for girls? I mean, a hotel gives them a "guarantee of safety". Compared to a well known hotel room, will a girl accept an Airbnb invitation less? Especially if the girl doesn't know you well or you if invite her over the internet to your accommodation? Is that a factor?

  9. #14253

    Massagem Mix, Rue Batataes

    Long time reader, first time poster (for Sao Paulo anyway, I had a nice streak going in the Shanghai forum some time ago).

    Big thanks for all the reading and notes, this place is definitely great in terms of ease since it's not illegal and you don't have to deal with all the two-call bullshit and other nonsense in other parts of the world.

    I am staying at the Renaissance, just here for a week. Tuesday night was coming back from a walk and on the phone and this fantastic looking woman was outside the hotel and clearly wanted to talk, but I hadn't figured things out yet and didn't engage. Maybe one night before I leave. But confirmation that they girls are here, although maybe not allowed inside (there is some big celebrity band staying here this week so security a bit tighter than normal).

    Anyway, I looked for a clinica close enough to the hotel to make walking worthwhile, and settled on one spot that seemed to have 3 or 4 clinicas right next to each other. Av. Batataes, 558. I checked the spot on google maps street view but couldn't quite figure out where these would be, so I bravely wandered over around 9:00. Got to the spot and it's an apartment building with a restaurant on the ground floor. So a bit confused I looked around and got on the websites and picked the one called Massagem Mix. Whatsapp'd them and got a fairly quick response, offered there were two girls (Luana and Dani) and prices. Talked me past the front desk and up to their floor, and to the door. Dani answer the door, it's a small 2 bedroom apartment, two girls as advertised but no one else in the place.

    I picked Luana as she was the smaller of the two. No English but didn't really require much communication. She left me in the room for a minute (simple setup with a chair and a bed) so I stripped and was ready when she came back. She smiled and got to it, dropped her (tiny) skirt and started with what can vaguely be referred to as a massage. Some lotion, bit of a handjob, then started BBBJ. I pulled her around for 69 and ate her ass for a while, which was awesome. Everything you want in a lovely bunda. She then grabbed a condom and offered, which I politely accepted. She put it on and saddled up, and that was that. Cleaned up a bit, got some water (covered in sweat, was hot and active). We tried to chat a bit, she had me flip and gave me more of a massage for a little while, and then asked if I wanted round 2. Being a gentleman, I again politely accepted her offer. Condom, doggie, pounded away but found number 2 quite elusive. So I took off the condom and got her on her knees and proceeded to FF her for some time. Perfect eye contact and just lovely, right in front of a mirror. Finished that way on her face and mouth, which she actually seemed to like (laughed a bit after we were done).

    I gave her the payment and a bit extra (500, I'm aware that is a sizeable tip) but she put in the work and I enjoyed it.

    So in summary. Not really a clinica, just a couple chicks in an apartment, but it was fine and a nice introduction to Sao Paulo for me. Probably not feeling another round tonight, but there is always tomorrow and I'll be back in a few weeks to try some other options. May yet try to pickup in the lobby, who knows.

  10. #14252
    Quote Originally Posted by Khondjii  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your useful and nice report.

    Some precisions about Hotel Grand Mercure So Paulo Ibirapuera? Dit they ask ID check or anything if your order escort through internet?
    Nop. Only thing is you need a keycard to operate elevator, so you have to come around front desk area to receive girl but no big deal to me.

  11. #14251

    Lodgings providing intrinsic value

    Quote Originally Posted by NiceFirst  [View Original Post]
    Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.
    Quote Originally Posted by ParsTiger  [View Original Post]
    I too am curious about this. I will be arriving in 2 weeks and will probably rent Airbnb to save some.
    The question or concern can't really be answered. You're proposing we have insight into the mind of the provider, specifically does a Mongers accommodations factor in the level of service. Probably Not with the exception of Luxury Accommodations.

    Probably the main factors that determine level of service:
    • - Your personality, hygiene, and looks, etc.
      - How much are you paying and does that amount really satisfies their sense of worth for the session.
      - Does the provider genuinely like you?
      - Are you doing anything intrinsically (subjective) different from other Mongers?
      - Could be other reasons but not really trying to account for all variables.

    If the accommodations are equal or greater than what their use to and provide a level of safety and they are comfortable you should be ok. Now if you have luxury accommodation regardless of type only that could provide a slight (unquantifiable) enhancement remember all providers like luxury or the appearance of luxury.

    To ponder anymore over this is futile.

  12. #14250

    Apts / Rentals

    Quote Originally Posted by NiceFirst  [View Original Post]
    Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.
    I too am curious about this. I will be arriving in 2 weeks and will probably rent Airbnb to save some. I am but a humble man with a fixed passive income and bid inflation is ultimately what drove me to get the hot-pocker Janssen vax. I have immunity anyway since I got delta quite badly last thanksgiving. I will probably go to Curitiba also.

  13. #14249
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatIndianGuy1  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    I will be on the ground in SP for the first time in a few days. I intend to have girls at my hotel from the escort websites as well as visiting girls that host from their own location. My question is when do they pay you? Before the services rendered or after?

    Thanks,

    TIG.
    I have always paid afterwards. If required to pay upfront, I offer half up front and the rest at the end. I am wary of paying anything up front. Doesn't mean the service will be bad. I have had bad service even with payment afterwards but hat is very rare.

  14. #14248

    Getting paid

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatIndianGuy1  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    I will be on the ground in SP for the first time in a few days. I intend to have girls at my hotel from the escort websites as well as visiting girls that host from their own location. My question is when do they pay you? Before the services rendered or after?

    Thanks,

    TIG.
    Man, I must be doing it wrong, I'm usually the one paying the girls! LOL.

    In all seriousness, this topic varies by location, but I think in Brazil a best practice is to pay at the end of the night, or end of the session. If a girl is pushy to get paid upfront, it might be a bad sign of bad service to come, or it might not be that way. If making a deal for a pernoite, sometimes it works if you pay half upfront and half after.

    Me, I've always paid at the end unless the girl asks, which I've only had 2 ask upfront, I agreed and still had great service, but my instincts were things would be fine. YMMV. If I take a loss one time, to me it's not a deal breaker though.

  15. #14247
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbarsing  [View Original Post]
    Context: This was my first visit to Brazil with close to none Portuguese knowledge. I am just another guy out in late 30's and here to share my experience / report.

    First things first, thank you! To this forum for amazing tips and recommendations. So here is my time to pay it back to the community.

    I had lot of hassle in the flight departing USA (flight got cancelled 3 times) and I ended up reaching Brazil 15 hours later then originally expected. Despite all the hassle I was able to finally land to Brazil around midnight in Rio. Given this is SP forum, I will skip my Rio report (to be posted soon there in Rio group) So after 4 days in Rio, I took domestic flight from Rio - SP.

    Landed SP around 4 ish.

    Hotel:

    - Hotel Grand Mercure So Paulo Ibirapuera. I'd recommend this hotel as it was GF and had no trouble navigating to other places in SP. I find that to be in safe neighborhood as well.

    - Tip: Always check with hotel that if it is GF before booking AND also check how close the hotel is from Scandello (more on this later).

    Mongering: From my RTFF on this forum, one thing I knew was Scandello is a place to be and it totally live to the hype.
    Thanks for your useful and nice report.

    Some precisions about Hotel Grand Mercure São Paulo Ibirapuera? Dit they ask ID check or anything if your order escort through internet?

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