Sao Paulo Reports

[The Cane]

What's all the fuss about Scandallo? Donno, I've never been there. But I have been to similar establishments like Bomboa, back in the day and had great fun.

Are you "missing something", when it comes to Scandallo? Probably not, as it doesn't appear to be your liking, because it's "pricey", "No fixed rates means you have to negotiate with every single girl you see", girls clock-watching and crappy small rooms.

In your argument or supposition, you put forth a collection of statements that clearly state the way "you like" to monger, and even though, the faciliaties are fantastic and there are 9's and 10's at Scandalo, things just weren't to your liking. So not the paradise you were hoping for.

It's interesting to note, at the opposite end of the spectrum, there's a boat-load of mongers that go to VM (in Rio) and then pose similar questions about VM. Go figure!

Personally I think you've answered your own question. Just because other BMs see Scandallo or VM as great places to monger, doesn't mean you will. We all have differently tastes, techniques, approaches, methodology and styles to the game of mongering.

A better question to consider is, "Where do I find P4P action that best suits my value price, style and comfort zone, when it comes to mongering in SP, RJ?".

Go find your own paradise.

Great response Spidy! Could not have said it better!

[Spidy]

Can somebody explain all the fuss about Scandallo aka Paradise on Earth? Okay, I understand, the facilities are great, some would say the best in the world, quality of girls is high, 9's and 10's could be found there. But. The place is pricey and you are not guaranteed a good service no matter how much you pay (some recent reports prove that). No fixed rates means . . .

Am I missing something here?

What's all the fuss about Scandallo? Donno, I've never been there. But I have been to similar establishments like Bomboa, back in the day and had great fun.

Are you "missing something", when it comes to Scandallo? Probably not, as it doesn't appear to be your liking, because it's "pricey", "No fixed rates means you have to negotiate with every single girl you see", girls clock-watching and crappy small rooms.

In your argument or supposition, you put forth a collection of statements that clearly state the way "you like" to monger, and even though, the faciliaties are fantastic and there are 9's and 10's at Scandalo, things just weren't to your liking. So not the paradise you were hoping for.

It's interesting to note, at the opposite end of the spectrum, there's a boat-load of mongers that go to VM (in Rio) and then pose similar questions about VM. Go figure!

Personally I think you've answered your own question. Just because other BMs see Scandallo or VM as great places to monger, doesn't mean you will. We all have differently tastes, techniques, approaches, methodology and styles to the game of mongering.

A better question to consider is, "Where do I find P4P action that best suits my value price, style and comfort zone, when it comes to mongering in SP, RJ?".

Go find your own paradise.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Can somebody explain all the fuss about Scandallo aka Paradise on Earth? Okay, I understand, the facilities are great, some would say the best in the world, quality of girls is high, 9's and 10's could be found there. But. The place is pricey and you are not guaranteed a good service no matter how much you pay (some recent reports prove that). No fixed rates means you have to negotiate with every single girl you see, and to me, it is a waste of time, I would rather focus on establishing a rapport with a girl rather than trying to bring her rate down which is difficult to do sometimes when her hand is grabbing your cock. When you go to a Terma in Rio, you know what you are going to pay as the rates are fixed. You just need to pick a girl, have a drink or just talk with her to see if you are vibing. If you do, you take her to the room. No negotiations, sad faces, or wasted time. Yes, you can get shitty service there too, but you pay much less, even if you go to a tier-1 terma and you don't waste your time negotiating. Another point, is that girls are obviously pros, they charge you by the hour. This means, the sessions are rushed, the clock is ticking and your girl needs to get back on the floor as soon as possible to have another session with someone else. Or maybe she just fucked someone else right before you. Of course, this applies to all casas / brothels / strip clubs, etc. However, when you pay $250-$300 per session, your expectations are way higher and you don't want to be her 2nd, 3rd, etc guy of the night. Speaking of the facilities, yeah, the restaurant / club / lounge might be nice, but you end up fucking in a small room, which is definitely worse than your hotel room or Airbnb. I personally prefer to fuck in the comfort of my apartment, rather than on site, because the experience is so much better, especially if you are staying at a fancy place.

To sum up, you never know what kind of service you will get for the top dollar you pay. You get nice facilities, decent selection of good looking girls, but YMMV regardless of price.

Am I missing something here?

Scandalo fans like it because there they can delude themselves that a hot chick is talking, dancing, kissing with them for an hour and then fucking them for an hour because of the guy's charm and good looks, and that the money he gave her was incidental to her doing that.

[EverythingBlue]

Can somebody explain all the fuss about Scandallo aka Paradise on Earth? Okay, I understand, the facilities are great, some would say the best in the world, quality of girls is high, 9's and 10's could be found there. But. The place is pricey and you are not guaranteed a good service no matter how much you pay (some recent reports prove that). No fixed rates means you have to negotiate with every single girl you see, and to me, it is a waste of time, I would rather focus on establishing a rapport with a girl rather than trying to bring her rate down which is difficult to do sometimes when her hand is grabbing your cock. When you go to a Terma in Rio, you know what you are going to pay as the rates are fixed. You just need to pick a girl, have a drink or just talk with her to see if you are vibing. If you do, you take her to the room. No negotiations, sad faces, or wasted time. Yes, you can get shitty service there too, but you pay much less, even if you go to a tier-1 terma and you don't waste your time negotiating. Another point, is that girls are obviously pros, they charge you by the hour. This means, the sessions are rushed, the clock is ticking and your girl needs to get back on the floor as soon as possible to have another session with someone else. Or maybe she just fucked someone else right before you. Of course, this applies to all casas / brothels / strip clubs, etc. However, when you pay $250-$300 per session, your expectations are way higher and you don't want to be her 2nd, 3rd, etc guy of the night. Speaking of the facilities, yeah, the restaurant / club / lounge might be nice, but you end up fucking in a small room, which is definitely worse than your hotel room or Airbnb. I personally prefer to fuck in the comfort of my apartment, rather than on site, because the experience is so much better, especially if you are staying at a fancy place.

I think your assessment is pretty fair. I have wondered this myself, and talked about it on site with another board member. However, based on my recent trip, I did not see the same quality of girl at a tier 1 terma, Scandallo has hotter girls, or at least dressed better LOL.

IMO, a big part of the appeal, is the fact that you are in a club, and sometimes it's easy to forget that girls are there to make money fucking you. So the environment is setup to make you feel like you've just scored a hot girl at a club, never mind that you are likely overpaying compared to what's available outside the place. It depends on what rocks your boat, if you've been to big clubs in big cities like back in the days The Supper Club or even Marquee in Vegas, I could only imagine been able to just go and tell a girl let's go fuck for 1000 HR and actually do it. There you had to pay way more LOL.

Anyways, what lures me is the challenge of finding a hot girl, scoring a good deal and fucking hopefully pretty good. It's the Scandallo lottery!

[MiamiBoy1]

Can somebody explain all the fuss about Scandallo aka Paradise on Earth? Okay, I understand, the facilities are great, some would say the best in the world, quality of girls is high, 9's and 10's could be found there. But. The place is pricey and you are not guaranteed a good service no matter how much you pay (some recent reports prove that). No fixed rates means you have to negotiate with every single girl you see, and to me, it is a waste of time, I would rather focus on establishing a rapport with a girl rather than trying to bring her rate down which is difficult to do sometimes when her hand is grabbing your cock. When you go to a Terma in Rio, you know what you are going to pay as the rates are fixed. You just need to pick a girl, have a drink or just talk with her to see if you are vibing. If you do, you take her to the room. No negotiations, sad faces, or wasted time. Yes, you can get shitty service there too, but you pay much less, even if you go to a tier-1 terma and you don't waste your time negotiating. Another point, is that girls are obviously pros, they charge you by the hour. This means, the sessions are rushed, the clock is ticking and your girl needs to get back on the floor as soon as possible to have another session with someone else. Or maybe she just fucked someone else right before you. Of course, this applies to all casas / brothels / strip clubs, etc. However, when you pay $250-$300 per session, your expectations are way higher and you don't want to be her 2nd, 3rd, etc guy of the night. Speaking of the facilities, yeah, the restaurant / club / lounge might be nice, but you end up fucking in a small room, which is definitely worse than your hotel room or Airbnb. I personally prefer to fuck in the comfort of my apartment, rather than on site, because the experience is so much better, especially if you are staying at a fancy place.

To sum up, you never know what kind of service you will get for the top dollar you pay. You get nice facilities, decent selection of good looking girls, but YMMV regardless of price.

Am I missing something here?

[Steve 9696]

HaHa I think he meant her name is "Thais". It is a fairly common name in Brazil.

Haha. I guess I knew that. All these years getting with the ladies and I never made the connection that Thais (girls name) = Thais (nationality). Never even occurred to me. Kkkkk.

[SamaRiding]

Ouch. Scandallo girls are good at luring you, it requires patience and practice to find a good one from what've experienced. Did you pay her upon arriving at the hotel? Thankfully I got no less than BBBJ .

That's the issue with scandallo. Despite paying a high premium, good service is hit or miss. I think my personal percentage of good sessions has been better with CLínica and online girls compared with scandallo girls. Maybe my type which is young white spinners are inexperienced and hesitant to DFK and BBBJ. Last week at scandallo. I talked with red head spinner which was totally my type, a 9. But she wouldn't take less 800 and I got the sense it wasn't going to be a great session. Probably just a optifuck. I had already that day had two very good CLínica one hour session and a great 2 hour session with an online girl at my place. All for around 800. So I passed on the red head because I didn't want have a bad session to end the night. I got her WhatsApp and damn she does look amazing. An optifuck in the states for US $160 is a steal. Hahahahaha. I may to give her outcall when I get back to SP. I would be willing to pay 800 or even 1000, if there was a scandallo one hour service guarantee!

Also the scandallo inside dance lounge as reopened, which is amazing. Live bands. Like it more than the outside Terrance. Not sure of the other days, I went on a Thurs night at 11 pm and the cover was 400 r with 200 consumption.

[Houston Player]

Haha guessing this is a Freudian slip and not untrue! Assume you meant "beware of THIS" as you surely didn't take a Thai at Scandallo. Right?

HaHa I think he meant her name is "Thais". It is a fairly common name in Brazil.

[Steve 9696]

Last night I let my guard down and was punished. I was at Scandalo got there around 10. Did my usual routine and sat with this skinny morena. She was a little to bony for me so let her go. Next I saw probably the cutest face I ever saw. I looked at her for while before she walked over. This petit morena was so sexy I broke a few protocols. I asked if she did BBBJ she said yes but she hesitated usually I would only do short time with that red flag but I was so into her looks I asked about a per noite. She quoted 2 k a would not budge. She was also only 20 which is on low end of what I go for. I should have walked away. Anyway all her enthusiasm went away at the hotel, did not do the BBBJ and wanted to charge extra for basic requests like licking my neck. Be aware of Thais!

Haha guessing this is a Freudian slip and not untrue! Assume you meant "beware of THIS" as you surely didn't take a Thai at Scandallo. Right?

[GiuseppeBonera]

For Guiseppe who is headed to Campinas.

Fazendinha can be hit or miss. I had an amazing time and that is where I met Thifany (who I flew to London) so there are some real keepers there. Others were not impressed. I guess ymmv. A couple years back they had a van that would pick you up in Campinas. Not sure if they still run it but U should check because it's a haul.

Might check out Moustache there in town if you are feeling lazy. When I went early (10) on a weekday it was me and eight girls. I didn't really mind. I found one that I consider a solid nine and she was a wildcat in bed. So again ymmv but maybe you find a gem. We did have to take a taxi to a love hotel because nothing in town.

Have fun!

As planned I went to itatinga and did a drive by to see if there was any gems the girls from galo de Oro were standing outside so did not need to go in. With no prospects headed to fazendinha around 11:30. The club is being remodeled so they had only the outside area. Since it was a little chilly some of the girls had jackets on. There was periodic stripping maybe one every hour. Just shy of 15 girls. There the girls are not allowed to approach the guys but most were sitting so could not get a full appreciation of most. Mostly 6's and 7's but nothing below a 5 and definitely no 9-10's. I have been spoiled in sampa! I had been watching a morena for some time and finally walked over to her. They close at 3 so at around 1:30 got a quote of 600 asked for BBBJ and said yes for additional 200. She was only a 7 and was considering walking away but wanted bounce back from Thursdays fiasco. I did not regret it she was great. Got her number for potential repeat while in Campinas since the scene is not like sp. Originally said her name was Julia but as I was taking her number I confirmed Julia right her response was actually Jessica LOL. I also have Roberta from Scandalo as an option as she is in Campinas all weekend. Roberta was hotter but Jessica does more.

[Hobbying]

Last night I let my guard down and was punished. I was at Scandalo got there around 10. Did my usual routine and sat with this skinny morena. She was a little to bony for me so let her go. Next I saw probably the cutest face I ever saw. I looked at her for while before she walked over. This petit morena was so sexy I broke a few protocols. I asked if she did BBBJ she said yes but she hesitated usually I would only do short time with that red flag but I was so into her looks I asked about a per noite. She quoted 2 k a would not budge. She was also only 20 which is on low end of what I go for. I should have walked away. Anyway all her enthusiasm went away at the hotel, did not do the BBBJ and wanted to charge extra for basic requests like licking my neck. Be aware of Thais!

There are a few ways to handle this but when looking for certain acts from the girl you tell them everything upfront and if still unsure tell her you will pay her one price in the room and the rest afterwards if she does everything.

I never pay upfront because the girl can just do whatever or leave early.

[EverythingBlue]

Last night I let my guard down and was punished. I was at Scandalo got there around 10. Did my usual routine and sat with this skinny morena. She was a little to bony for me so let her go. Next I saw probably the cutest face I ever saw. I looked at her for while before she walked over. This petit morena was so sexy I broke a few protocols. I asked if she did BBBJ she said yes but she hesitated usually I would only do short time with that red flag but I was so into her looks I asked about a per noite. She quoted 2 k a would not budge. She was also only 20 which is on low end of what I go for. I should have walked away. Anyway all her enthusiasm went away at the hotel, did not do the BBBJ and wanted to charge extra for basic requests like licking my neck. Be aware of Thais!

Ouch. Scandallo girls are good at luring you, it requires patience and practice to find a good one from what've experienced. Did you pay her upon arriving at the hotel? Thankfully I got no less than BBBJ in my recent visit, but charging extra for a neck kiss is an insult. I would've paid her a small fee and sent her away. I would sample the goods in Scandallo prior to taking a girl for a pernocte, although other more experienced mongers like señor Anaggie have shared good experiences meeting and taking out a girl during the same try. Good luck on your next visit, I'd wish I was there no matter the outcome, I would be willing to fail a few times myself LOL.

[The Cane]

That is true and the place is a little worn out. But relatively speaking, even Tangara is a step up from all the other South America places I have been to because it provides clean bedsheet and hot shower but without toilet in the room.

The vibe is also different from other clinicas. I think the managers are more friendly. I wouldn't necessarily recommend this place for people with limited time because I think you want to save your energy for better talents that you can't find here.

I like when mongers keep it real and tell it like it is. There was another monger (I won't use his name) who would always talk up the facilities at Tangara. I went there and was not impressed. Not that they're bad. But, they aren't particularly standout either. I guess it's a matter of what you're used to. As you say, perhaps the measure is against what you might find relative to other places in the same city or region, or even continent. Now a place like Scandallo, when it comes to facilities, not only is it world class. It sets the international standard for that type of establishment period.

[Nounce]

My biggest turnoff was just the facilities are pretty motel 6.

That is true and the place is a little worn out. But relatively speaking, even Tangara is a step up from all the other South America places I have been to because it provides clean bedsheet and hot shower but without toilet in the room.

The vibe is also different from other clinicas. I think the managers are more friendly. I wouldn't necessarily recommend this place for people with limited time because I think you want to save your energy for better talents that you can't find here.

[GiuseppeBonera]

Last night I let my guard down and was punished. I was at Scandalo got there around 10. Did my usual routine and sat with this skinny morena. She was a little to bony for me so let her go. Next I saw probably the cutest face I ever saw. I looked at her for while before she walked over. This petit morena was so sexy I broke a few protocols. I asked if she did BBBJ she said yes but she hesitated usually I would only do short time with that red flag but I was so into her looks I asked about a per noite. She quoted 2 k a would not budge. She was also only 20 which is on low end of what I go for. I should have walked away. Anyway all her enthusiasm went away at the hotel, did not do the BBBJ and wanted to charge extra for basic requests like licking my neck. Be aware of Thais!