Sao Paulo Reports

[Rextor]

What Americans and Europeans consider white is different than what Brazilians call white. I listened to a podcast about this a few months ago and it clarified some of the ethnic differences one sees among Brazilians.

As an additional anecdote, I had a conversation with a Brazilian girl about it and she got very offended when I said that in the US she would not be considered white.

I guess in Brazil if you are light skinned but mixed a little bit with something else, you can call yourself white. I tried to explain to her that in the US and Europe you're only considered white if you're pretty much entirely European, but she wasn't having it.

In any case, there are a lot of race issues in Brazil. Next time you're in southern Brazil, ask someone for a brigadiero for a dessert and see what they call it instead.

Hey on a related note. Tia you said your were African American right? How do you think your race has impacted your experiences (mongering and otherwise) in Brazil? I heard Bolsonaro's Brazil is pretty racist, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the branca blondies acted like they were above being paid by a POC to fuck them haha.

As a Brown person I have definitely felt like a second class citizen in Thailand, but never so in Colombia. Wondering how those experiences compare to Brazil.

[Polyamorist]

I agree that Miruna is one of the better clinicas.

The manageress there used to be an attractive young lady called Manu. At the beginning of this year she got demoted to the lineup. That was a wise move by the owner. Although Manu was always full of smiles, it turns out she had a dark side and was encouraging disrespectful attitudes among the girls. It seems the new manageress Karol is a lot better, as I recently had a fantastic session there.

[Vagabundo1]

Warning Order. Vagabundo inbound to SP, Sabado with Safado69.

TIA, good sir:

Senhor Vagabundo will be inbound to SP for 1 week on Sabado. If you are still in SP, Vagabundo would like to link up for pussy patrol vicinity Scandallo. Please advise.

Ad Usam Nostrorum Tantum.

Vagabundo.

I'm not sure what it was like historically, but every day I have gone has been a good day. Some of the other clubs (Lotus and Cafe Photo) that occasionally poach quality talent are currently closed. Connection and Scandallo seem to be the primary places that top tier girls can flaunt their wares, with most preferring Scandallo from what I've heard.

[TiaVoyage25]

I'm not sure what it was like historically, but every day I have gone has been a good day. Some of the other clubs (Lotus and Cafe Photo) that occasionally poach quality talent are currently closed. Connection and Scandallo seem to be the primary places that top tier girls can flaunt their wares, with most preferring Scandallo from what I've heard.

Thanks for confirming that it's closed on Sundays. That's what I thought, but some have come here claiming that it was open on Sundays (I have never known that to be true). Some people have also indicated that Thursday is really the only good day. Again, that does not square with my own personal experience. I'm not saying that Thursdays suck, but I've gone on Friday and Saturday nights and had a blast! Place was packed with plenty of hot options!

[TiaVoyage25]

What Americans and Europeans consider white is different than what Brazilians call white. I listened to a podcast about this a few months ago and it clarified some of the ethnic differences one sees among Brazilians.

As an additional anecdote, I had a conversation with a Brazilian girl about it and she got very offended when I said that in the US she would not be considered white.

I guess in Brazil if you are light skinned but mixed a little bit with something else, you can call yourself white. I tried to explain to her that in the US and Europe you're only considered white if you're pretty much entirely European, but she wasn't having it.

In any case, there are a lot of race issues in Brazil. Next time you're in southern Brazil, ask someone for a brigadiero for a dessert and see what they call it instead.

To this day, I still often get confused at times, as the catagories of appearance/ethnic groups, are vast within the Brazilian Culture. And don't me started on several of the sub-catagories like branca-morena or morena-clara.

Like WyattEarp, Photoacompanhantes, also associates 'morena' as hair color. I've always associated it, more with ethnicity/skin color. Perhaps it's both?

BTW, I found the best policy, is to as the women, how they see themselves, as they've often been very offended when I thought they were something else.

Pic: Taken from https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes (Look under "+ Filtros" option in search)

[Spidy]

I'm not the most fluent Portuguese speaker by any means, but I believe "branca" means white or light-skinned female. "Morena" means brunette...

To this day, I still often get confused at times, as the catagories of appearance/ethnic groups, are vast within the Brazilian Culture. And don't me started on several of the sub-catagories like branca-morena or morena-clara.

Like WyattEarp, Photoacompanhantes, also associates 'morena' as hair color. I've always associated it, more with ethnicity/skin color. Perhaps it's both?

BTW, I found the best policy, is to as the women, how they see themselves, as they've often been very offended when I thought they were something else.

Pic: Taken from https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes (Look under "+ Filtros" option in search)

[PussyRiot]

I've been meaning to ask this about Scandallo. Whenever I session, I try to be fresh off the shower and also have perfect dental hygiene, I expect the same from the girl. If arriving early, and eating there, how do you all deal with the dilemma of say having eaten seafood and then having a random garota come up to sit down with you, maybe start kissing here and there or even walk up to the room and start the action prior to freshening up? Do you just sip on a straight whisky to kill the germs? LOL. I imagine once in the room you can shower and brush your teeth right? But what about in between?

Don't worry, there is floss and mouthwash available in the bathroom between outdoor lounge and club area.

[The Cane]

I hesitate to post a lot about Scandallo because it speaks for itself. Over the past few days (except Sunday, because it is closed), I have spent most of my time there.

Thanks for confirming that it's closed on Sundays. That's what I thought, but some have come here claiming that it was open on Sundays (I have never known that to be true). Some people have also indicated that Thursday is really the only good day. Again, that does not square with my own personal experience. I'm not saying that Thursdays suck, but I've gone on Friday and Saturday nights and had a blast! Place was packed with plenty of hot options!

[TiaVoyage25]

I hesitate to post a lot about Scandallo because it speaks for itself. Over the past few days (except Sunday, because it is closed), I have spent most of my time there. The quality is nearly unparalleled. And I am saying this having been to German FKKs. In terms of the attractiveness of the women, I'd say they're close to the same but the price point for Scandallo is what makes it marginally better. If money was unlimited, I'd pretty much live in a FKK. Service, however, is exponentially better at Scandallo. A Brazilian explained the model to me: girls have to perform. The clientele here are wealthy Brazilians. If the girls don't give good service, they won't be allowed in the club. In a country with poverty on every corner, the wealthy want a place to go where they can avoid all the other BS and just get quality. Scandallo is that place (in Sao Paulo).

I've had a lot of sessions at Scandallo and will have more before I leave. At one point I had a session with a semi-famous Brazilian, though I cannot share her name (even in PMs) because she prefers to remain under the radar. I looked her up to confirm and she wasn't kidding. You can, and will, find top notch talent every day and night of the week.

The price point is worth noting because it isn't cheap. R300 for entry (if you enter before 7 PM then its R150). Out of the R300 for entry, R150 can be used towards food and drinks. R230 for an hour in the standard room which has a bathroom, shower, TV, speakers, etc. I almost want to get a suite from R260 just to see what it looks like. It will be anywhere from R500-R1000 for the girl depending on how you negotiate. Beers range from R35-R45. Mixed drinks are around R70. Dinner will be about R150. So, if you show up around 8 PM to eat dinner, have a few drinks, and session one time, then you're looking at around R1500 at least. Even if you just showed up to session and do nothing else, you're not walking out paying less than R1030 (and that is assuming you talked the girl down to R500).

On a different note, Rio is a much better city for very obvious reasons. If Scandallo weren't here, I would see no reason to ever come to Sao Paulo. For the newbie monger on a 10 day trip, I'd say spend 7 days in Rio then 3 days in Sao Paulo. During those 3 days, set up shop at Scandallo and get all the poison out.

[WyattEarp]

I would say there were mostly brancas and maybe 30 percent morenas. I think there was only one negra in the club the 2 days that I went.

I'm not the most fluent Portuguese speaker by any means, but I believe "branca" means white or light-skinned female. "Morena" means brunette. Brasileiras are often both. I didn't get the impression that you were saying 70% of the women were loiras (and ruivas).

"Loira" means blonde. As in a lot of places, there are a lot of Brazilian bottle blondes. Some morenas can pull off coloring their hair blonde. Others can't.

[The Cane]

I've been meaning to ask this about Scandallo. Whenever I session, I try to be fresh off the shower and also have perfect dental hygiene, I expect the same from the girl. If arriving early, and eating there, how do you all deal with the dilemma of say having eaten seafood and then having a random garota come up to sit down with you, maybe start kissing here and there or even walk up to the room and start the action prior to freshening up? Do you just sip on a straight whisky to kill the germs? LOL. I imagine once in the room you can shower and brush your teeth right? But what about in between?

First, don't eat stinky seafood (or anything else that would give you bad breath)! And yes, drinking alcohol helps to kill germs. Plus, I have on hand and use a copious amount of breath mints. If you want to brush your teeth, bring a travel-size brush and a travel-size tube of toothpaste. One thing I like about the top FKKs in Germany is that they often have items like this on hand for you to use. But, it seems to me that you ought to be more concerned about the girl's oral health. I mean, how do you know she hasn't already taken at least one cum shot to the pearly whites? And did she brush and floss afterwards (probably not). Aaahahahaha! Girls do use lots of mouthwash though. I know that for a fact. And so do I. After my first trip to Brazil (I was sick for a full week), I learned to gargle regularly with Listerine to fight off germs to avoid getting sick from DFKing with so many tutes.

[The Cane]

Ok, ok, ok guys. I've got to get my ass into Scandallo next visit to SP, whenever that may be. However, I am minded that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.

This is true. However, I have found over the years that I have good taste in women. If I say that a woman is attractive, other men are more likely to agree with me than not. And if I say that a woman is just normal to unattractive, other men are more likely to agree with me than not. And by the way, my rating of Miruna wasn't based on girl optics alone. It also included the quality of the facilities and staff. This is extremely important to me. If an establishment is a squalid hole in the wall with poor management, it's very unlikely that I'm going to give it a thumbs up as a place to go to for fucking, or for anything else.

That said, for me Miruna fits perfectly within the mold that TiaVoyage described. Mostly 6's and below, with a scattering of a few 7's and up. Tangara was the same, but with shabbier facilities (but still passable). And I'm saying these are two of the better ones! So, what does that say about the many others? I must caution that I although I have been to a lot of clinicas, I have not been to all of them, like Prime which currently gets rave reviews. The other thing to remember is that things change, and can change fast. The place that was hot last visit may not be this visit, and vice versa. That's why it's important each time to check out as many places as your time, money, energy, and interest will allow you to.

You strike me as the kind of monger who is strongly driven by price, and not so much by optics. If that's the case, then you're probably better off sticking with the clinicas. But yes, you should at least go to some of the top night spots in Sao Paulo just to see for yourself. Just don't come back here and start telling everybody it's all the same girls, or that on average the clinica girls look just as good! I'll have to take issue with that if you do LOL!

[Azn Safado]

I always love to seek out and explore new places. Too bad its not easily reachable from Sao Paulo. Azn Safado, can you expand on the makeup of the girls on that night? How many were morenas, brancas, and negras?

I would say there were mostly brancas and maybe 30 percent morenas. I think there was only one negra in the club the 2 days that I went.

[Turgid]

Ok, ok, ok guys I've got to get my ass into Scandallo next visit to SP, whenever that may be. However, I am minded that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, I have found the talent at Miruna to be on the low end and comparable to Tangara. On the other hand, I have been consistently impressed with the selection at Enjoy and especially Abbobora which are my go to clinicas. I have sessioned hotties comparable to FKKs at these establishments.

[The Cane]

I think it's name-dropping. The girl whose photo I posted said that usually she works in Scandallo, but was in Casarao only because it's very slow there during the carnival. I don't believe that, because the next few trips I always met her in Casarao. I think for one reason or another she didn't make it there in Scandallo. I believe, being quite good looking, it was easier for her to have two or three clients in Casarao every night than having one client every single night in Scandallo. It's still nice to say that you are a Scandallo (quality) girl. Same thing happens when the girls talk to each other about how much they charge. Many times the girls have asked me not to tell their friends that they are giving me a "discount".

Just for unfamiliar newbies, Casarao isn't a clinica. It's one of the nightclubs or "boates".