Sao Paulo Reports

[Nordico]

Some guys just seem to catch all the bad luck. Or, maybe we have been lucky? Don't know.

Happened to me once at Brooklin Massagem.

[UniversalX]

TiaVoyage, I feel your pain man. There is nothing worse than smelly pussy. ..........Thankfully, I do not come across smelly pussy very often, but when I do the question arises: should I tell the girl or not. LOL. I do not say anything, but clearly my actions speak volumes.

LOL. SMH.

Thankfully, I haven't had a serious incident that a shower didn't cure.
Shower First (not hand and water, I mean Water, Soap, and Washcloth!!) if that doesn't help then she got to go. And yes I would tell her why she is being dismissed.

[EverythingBlue]

The reason I say arrive by 10 pm is because it gives you a chance to be the "early worm" and potentially grab a hottie "fresh" before anybody else can get on her during the night. If I plan to have dinner there, I will arrive earlier than that, eat, and then sit back and have some drinks and relax. Stroll around a little bit. Find an early score! This is how I do. I like to be able to "operate" some before the place gets packed, and have found some absolute stunners that way. Kicks my evening off right!

I've been meaning to ask this about Scandallo. Whenever I session, I try to be fresh off the shower and also have perfect dental hygiene, I expect the same from the girl. If arriving early, and eating there, how do you all deal with the dilemma of say having eaten seafood and then having a random garota come up to sit down with you, maybe start kissing here and there or even walk up to the room and start the action prior to freshening up? Do you just sip on a straight whisky to kill the germs? LOL. I imagine once in the room you can shower and brush your teeth right? But what about in between?

In summary, I leave the newbie monger with similar tastes to mine (top tier IG model types) with this: clinicas are a waste of your time unless you just need to get a quick release. I doubt I will continue to visit them much more as I can find better quality online or at Scandallo.

Thanks for the report. I'm kind of disappointed now since I was hoping to spend my daytime at clinicas and nighttime at Scandallo. My whole expectation in going to SP is to find "IG model" quality girls, as others have said they are to be found plenty. My scale of 1-10 is on the high side, since I've lived in LA and other West Coast cities for awhile and have been spoiled. Is the only alternative to find that consistently during daytime to use online services? I'm looking forward to more of your findings, I'm a fairly new monger so your info is just what I need.

[Safado69]

Hahahaha, you are too funny and love your writing style.

I have mentioned this smell issue after my trip report (my old username was oldbelly69) and it is complete turnoff.

One of the worst smells and instant boner killer. Doesn't occur often but you know the stench. I would guess she is on her monthly cycle; a lot of girls have to keep working so they stuff cotton (algodao) in their private part.

[PussyRiot]

a smell unleashes that has effectively given me PTSD. I do not even want to describe it in detail here, but we all know what I am talking about:
I feign a finish within a matter of a minute, burn the condom (read: seal it in a bag, then throw it in another bag), decontaminate (shower for a very long time), and metaphorically cry myself to sleep (though literally doing so in this case would be justified). The girl was going to spend the night but I had to kick her out, although I did so in a very nice way. She didn't ask for this amount since I cut the session short, but I was craving a shower in the worst way and just wanted to get her out immediately. As the sun came up, my heart went down. A single tear rolled down my cheek as I couldn't figure out how to open the window of my hotel room. Luckily I have 2 beds.

Hahahaha, you are too funny and love your writing style.

I have mentioned this smell issue after my trip report (my old username was oldbelly69) and it is complete turnoff.

[SinfullyKorean]

The time has come for me to post my report on clinicas. As always, this report does not serve to criticize anyone and how they choose to spend their time and money. Everyone has different tastes and objectives in this hobby, so the assessment below is merely a reflection of mine. I write this because, as stated in my earlier posts on the Rio forum, my reports will serve to inform the "newbie monger", rather than the experienced monger who knows the lay of the land. Please also keep in mind that I write this with a particular type of taste. I will never monger in Africa and I have little to no intention of mongering in Asia. I like European women and Latina types so my subjective views outlined here reflect as such. If I state something factually incorrect, please feel free to engage. But, I have not and will not engage in a debate here as I am merely presenting an opinion based on my own experiences.

Not offended, and I think it's a fair assessment. If you're looking for top tier, IG model level talent, no question, go to Scandallo. If you're looking for budget fun, go to clinicas. On most days, I found about 4 7's, and sometimes a couple 8's. I think Sasha (abbobora) was an 8. 5, although service level left quite a bit to be desired. You're probably going to spend at least 5 x the cost of clinicas. If I stay there long term, I'll probably try to mix it up.

[Safado69]

[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2575338.

There is also a reason why Scandallo basically has no reviews on local forums. Your average, middle class Brazilian isn't going to Scandallo, perhaps ever. A night there would cost him half his monthly paycheck. The locals visiting Scandallo are among the small number of wealthy members of Brazilian society. This was explained to me by a wealthy, local Brazilian. Since there aren't many of them, they obviously aren't posting on local forums often, if at all. But it is because of the money that the club can bring in the most attractive girls to work. If you want a luxury car, you're going to have to pay for it. Sure, you might be able to find that 69 GTO at a backwoods auction hosted by some old dude who doesn't know what he has, but that is the exception rather than the rule. If one puts in the work, you can find the diamond in the rough, but if you're on a short vacation, why would you want to do that? Unless you enjoy the search of course. ].

In my opinion there are not many reviews on Scandallo on this forum and worse yet Fazendinha in Campinas. Pricing at Scandallo is ambiguous. People generally know that is hard to get out of there without spending 800-1000 reais damage because of the level of talent and they know the general breakdown.

- 250 entrance and (150 in consumption).

- 300 for room onsite for 1 hour.

- 500 minimum for girl usually get quoted 1000 (negotiable, incorrect assumption is that the rate is for 1 hour).

Not sure if this is common knowledge but what I recently learned in April from a reliable GDP acquaintance was that it is better deal to negotiate with the girl, pay house 100 to take the girl out instead of assuming it is 500-1000 for an hour with the girl because of 300/ HR room rate. Recognize this option is not for everyone and some are not comfortable bringing stranger back to hotel. Hope to try this out in a couple of weeks.

[The Cane]

The time has come for me to post my report on clinicas. An unnamed senior board member expressed to me in a PM that clinicas are like sandwich shops where you stop in for a decent meal. You aren't expecting gourmet and you aren't going to pay gourmet prices either. After at least 2 visits to many, many of the clinicas on the SP map, I agree with this sentiment. My whirlwind tour of the clinicas has left me largely unimpressed as I find most of the girls to be Rio tier 2 termas equivalent. The best establishments would maybe be Tier 1. 5 equivalent. The girls are not unattractive but I hesitate to spend money for their time. Sure, a few 7's are thrown in the mix but by and large you are going to have to search pretty hard for them.
There is a reason that these clinicas have thousands of positive reviews on local forums. The places are affordable and you will get good service for the most part. For your average, middle to upper middle class Brazilian guy, places like Prime, Mirunas, Enjoy, and Abbobora are the quality sandwich shop. Clinicas are the unlimited soup, salad, and breadsticks at Olive Garden. They can go there, session with a decent looking girl, get good service, and go home to their wives with a smile on their face without breaking the bank. I get it and the model makes sense. I will once again paraphrase a quote by Bearsi, "I am not going to fly several thousand miles to bang average looking women that I could at home after a few drinks in a bar and some decent game".

There is also a reason why Scandallo basically has no reviews on local forums. Your average, middle class Brazilian isn't going to Scandallo, perhaps ever. A night there would cost him half his monthly paycheck. The locals visiting Scandallo are among the small number of wealthy members of Brazilian society. This was explained to me by a wealthy, local Brazilian. Since there aren't many of them, they obviously aren't posting on local forums often, if at all. But it is because of the money that the club can bring in the most attractive girls to work. If you want a luxury car, you're going to have to pay for it. Sure, you might be able to find that 69 GTO at a backwoods auction hosted by some old dude who doesn't know what he has, but that is the exception rather than the rule. If one puts in the work, you can find the diamond in the rough, but if you're on a short vacation, why would you want to do that? Unless you enjoy the search of course. In summary, I leave the newbie monger with similar tastes to mine (top tier IG model types) with this: clinicas are a waste of your time unless you just need to get a quick release. I doubt I will continue to visit them much more as I can find better quality online or at Scandallo.

I find your report to well-written, insightful, and in line with my own findings. The girls working in the "day league" aren't all the same ones working in the "night league". And just because you find one here or there who does work in both, that doesn't establish that they all do, or that even a significant number do. They don't. If they did, well I'm smart enough to realize that, and would rate the clinicas higher. And further, on average the girls who work the clinicas just aren't as hot as the ones who work the top nightclubs in Sao Paulo. It's going to cost you more to drive a BMW versus a Buick. And a Bentley will cost you even more! That's not mere "overpaying". That's paying for luxury! Bravo TiaVoyage! Bravo! Written like a seasoned monger, and not a "newbie". Bravo!

[TiaVoyage25]

The time has come for me to post my report on clinicas. As always, this report does not serve to criticize anyone and how they choose to spend their time and money. Everyone has different tastes and objectives in this hobby, so the assessment below is merely a reflection of mine. I write this because, as stated in my earlier posts on the Rio forum, my reports will serve to inform the "newbie monger", rather than the experienced monger who knows the lay of the land. Please also keep in mind that I write this with a particular type of taste. I will never monger in Africa and I have little to no intention of mongering in Asia. I like European women and Latina types so my subjective views outlined here reflect as such. If I state something factually incorrect, please feel free to engage. But, I have not and will not engage in a debate here as I am merely presenting an opinion based on my own experiences.

An unnamed senior board member expressed to me in a PM that clinicas are like sandwich shops where you stop in for a decent meal. You aren't expecting gourmet and you aren't going to pay gourmet prices either. After at least 2 visits to many, many of the clinicas on the SP map, I agree with this sentiment. My whirlwind tour of the clinicas has left me largely unimpressed as I find most of the girls to be Rio tier 2 termas equivalent. The best establishments would maybe be Tier 1. 5 equivalent. The girls are not unattractive but I hesitate to spend money for their time. Sure, a few 7's are thrown in the mix but by and large you are going to have to search pretty hard for them. Furthermore, you never know which clinica is going to have the best lineup that day. One day Prime had a decent lineup but on my next visit I walked out within seconds of the last girl introducing herself. I'd say the average across all clinicas is probably a 4 or 5. I have yet to see a girl higher than 8 on my scale at any clinica. And that was only one 8.

There is a reason that these clinicas have thousands of positive reviews on local forums. The places are affordable and you will get good service for the most part. For your average, middle to upper middle class Brazilian guy, places like Prime, Mirunas, Enjoy, and Abbobora are the quality sandwich shop. Clinicas are the unlimited soup, salad, and breadsticks at Olive Garden. They can go there, session with a decent looking girl, get good service, and go home to their wives with a smile on their face without breaking the bank. I get it and the model makes sense. I will once again paraphrase a quote by Bearsi, "I am not going to fly several thousand miles to bang average looking women that I could at home after a few drinks in a bar and some decent game".

There is also a reason why Scandallo basically has no reviews on local forums. Your average, middle class Brazilian isn't going to Scandallo, perhaps ever. A night there would cost him half his monthly paycheck. The locals visiting Scandallo are among the small number of wealthy members of Brazilian society. This was explained to me by a wealthy, local Brazilian. Since there aren't many of them, they obviously aren't posting on local forums often, if at all. But it is because of the money that the club can bring in the most attractive girls to work. If you want a luxury car, you're going to have to pay for it. Sure, you might be able to find that 69 GTO at a backwoods auction hosted by some old dude who doesn't know what he has, but that is the exception rather than the rule. If one puts in the work, you can find the diamond in the rough, but if you're on a short vacation, why would you want to do that? Unless you enjoy the search of course.

In summary, I leave the newbie monger with similar tastes to mine (top tier IG model types) with this: clinicas are a waste of your time unless you just need to get a quick release. I doubt I will continue to visit them much more as I can find better quality online or at Scandallo.

[DreamCarnarvon]

This is indeed unusual, from all my years of hobbying in Brazil I cannot recall ever having experienced bad odor there.

I can only recall 2 incidents from experience, both happened about 2 years ago. One happened at Clinica Nova Ceci on a repeat session. Beautiful girl in the 8 range. Everything was fine on our first session. Second session started out fine. But the smell started as we fucked in cowgirl. It really took me by surprise. I didn't say anything and she acted like as if nothing was wrong and so we kept going but I'm sure she noticed the smell as well. The second incident was at Clinica Nara. Again everything was fine, no smell whatsoever until we started fucking.

TiaVoyage, your girl must've been at least a 9. I can't imagine otherwise how you were able to finish with her. Seriously, nothing kills an erection faster than a stanky pussy! In my case I didn't lose out too much. But that 1000 reais is a bit hard to swallow. You were gentleman enough to keep your word and gave her the full agreed amount. I hope the girl realizes and fixes her hygiene issue for both her health and business sake.

Even though I never frequented Scandallo and Connection much, I am nevertheless glad that they are doing well.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Snip. Here is where great goes to bad. Gentlemen, I must admit that I broke my own rule. I generally do not bring pros back to my hotel because I enjoy my personal space and also do not trust them. The women at Scandallo were so amazing that I was willing to break this rule, and did. Back at my hotel, the beautiful mid-20's spinner begins with a phenomenal show of oral gymnastics. She is highly receptive to feedback (speaks fluent English) and is thoroughly committed to the cause. When she takes off her skirt, however, a terrible thing happens: a smell unleashes that has effectively given me PTSD. I do not even want to describe it in detail here, but we all know what I am talking about: (long) expired fish and unwashed ass.

I feign a finish within a matter of a minute, burn the condom (read: seal it in a bag, then throw it in another bag), decontaminate (shower for a very long time), and metaphorically cry myself to sleep (though literally doing so in this case would be justified). The girl was going to spend the night but I had to kick her out, although I did so in a very nice way. I paid her what I was going to pay her for the whole night / next day (R1000) which was negotiated beforehand. She didn't ask for this amount since I cut the session short, but I was craving a shower in the worst way and just wanted to get her out immediately. As the sun came up, my heart went down. A single tear rolled down my cheek as I couldn't figure out how to open the window of my hotel room. Luckily I have 2 beds. Snip/

Guess I'll have to add "Do you have a stinky pussy?" to my list of interview questions.

[The Cane]

Same as Turgid. In dozens of trips to Brasil, I never encountered a chick w stinky pussy.

Some guys just seem to catch all the bad luck. Or, maybe we have been lucky? Don't know.

[Combo]

Same as Turgid. In dozens of trips to Brasil, I never encountered a chick w stinky pussy.

[Turgid]

...Here is where great goes to bad....

This is indeed unusual, from all my years of hobbying in Brazil I cannot recall ever having experienced bad odor there. If I had I would remember. My worst ever such experience was with a barbershop girl in Chang Ping China circa 2010. Chosen from a lineup of around 30 beautiful girls and repaired to my hotel room. When she took off her clothes the smell enveloped the room. Three showers could not get rid of the odor. No way could I get an erection under such circumstances. Some drama did ensue subsequently.

[The Cane]

Hahaha, that was fun to read. Sorry for your loss, but also, happy you found paradise, nirvana, Atlantis. I'm sure Scandallo only got better as I left. It was only opening til 4 AM again on the week I left. I'm sure all the regular ladies went back soon after.

I knew you'd like it. And I'm glad you found it as beautiful as I did, if not more so. Have fun!!

BTW, if you arrive before 7PM, entry fee is R150, all of which can be used for consumables. But most likely, you will have spent at least R300 by 9 or 10PM. So it might actually make more sense to get to Scandallo later. Scandallo food is pretty decent, too.

The reason I say arrive by 10 pm is because it gives you a chance to be the "early worm" and potentially grab a hottie "fresh" before anybody else can get on her during the night. If I plan to have dinner there, I will arrive earlier than that, eat, and then sit back and have some drinks and relax. Stroll around a little bit. Find an early score! This is how I do. I like to be able to "operate" some before the place gets packed, and have found some absolute stunners that way. Kicks my evening off right!