Sao Paulo Reports

[Vagabundo1]

Bubba Boy lived in Brazil for 10 years, 2002-2012. He is an aussie. He has as much experience as this website and its longest posting members. I've posted both parts of the report, with these disclaimers:

1. Update the data by looking at GPArena (http://gparena.net/), and GPGuia (https://www.gp-guia.net/) for all of Brazil. To include pricing, which locations are open, etc.

2. Brazilians are Brazilians, and BB's guide is as valid as the notebooks of the guy who founded Rio and Sao Paulo.

Lyin' in a den in Bombay.

With a slack jaw and not much to say.

I said to the man, "Are you trying to tempt me?

Because I come from the land of plenty.

This piqued my curiosity. I know Anaggie did not read the guide as he said so but have you read all Bubba's posts to come to this conclusion?

[Nounce]

And he would have had even more credibility if he had noted that many of those cheaper places would be seen as squalid and / or dirty by many a monger reading reports on this site (like Termas 502).

This piqued my curiosity. I know Anaggie did not read the guide as he said so but have you read all Bubba's posts to come to this conclusion?

[Vagabundo1]

Lyin' in a den in Bombay.

With a slack jaw and not much to say.

I said to the man, "Are you trying to tempt me?

Because I come from the land of plenty.

And he said:

Oh! Do you come from a land down under? (oh yeah, yeah).

Where women glow and men plunder.

Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder? Aah.

You better run, you better take cover.

- Down Under, by Men at Work.

I attach to this post the Bubba Boy Guide 1 and 2. I quote Down Under, the classic rock ballad of Australia, the land of Bubba Boy. Now if you're going through a window, and a Aussie is behind you, you know you will have back up. The people of other lands, not so much.

As I have always said, the details must be updated by:

1. Reading GPArena.net and for all of Brazil, GPGuia.

But, even though Facebag now owns zap, and Google is even bigger, and we are all hyperconnected, and the metro now goes to Barra (which is the first and most important update), the bubba boy guide remains the book of Genesis of the International Sex Guide. Indeed, Bubba who was in Brazil for 10 years, and last updated his guide in 2012, predated ISG in Brazil by a year.

Now, I don't have any real dispute with any of you. Anaggie did a fine job by getting bareback by bringing his tests and negotiating before hand BBFS. I like loiras / brancas just as much as Cane. I appreciate The Critic's well written remarks.

All I am saying is that the Bubba Boy's Guide is still the single best, single source, one document starting place. Now, any monger here is free to update these guides. I posted the word files. A enterprising monger could even make a google document out of them and make it a group project. Go for it.

The essential geography of Rio mongering, and the social dynamics between different classes of establishments is all there. It is better than that macumbo puritanical social science bullshit. economist.com 's 2014 special report on why sex work should be legalized is still valid even though it is 7 years old, almost the 9 years that Bubba Boy's guide is.

Or we could cut and paste the major portions of the guide in the forum and edit them to death for the sake of all the new monger congregants to the church of hooker mongering.

It's just like that classic film, Breaker Morant, also about aussie's is still the best film of counterinsurgency. A film which also has fucking hookers in it.

This is straight from the Bubba Boy guide, a ISG member who spent 10 years in Brazil:

"An interesting point: The locals guys tend to go to Termas, primarily to drink and maybe grab a cheap feel, or several cheap feels. The majority won't take a girl to a cabine at all, they may or not be able to afford it, but know they can find something way cheaper elsewhere.

The longer I spend in Rio, the more I head to the cheaper places and the prives, basically you can find some real gems for a fraction of the price of the expensive places. The only downside is that the cheaper places tend to have less of a choice, this can be overcome by going to 2 or 3 on the same night..

[The Critic]

The longer I spend in Rio, the more I head to the cheaper places and the prives, basically you can find some real gems for a fraction of the price of the expensive places.

1. You either live there or can spend months on end there. You also like and relish the Hunt. I get it. Everyone can't do that. Some work or have other commitments that preclude them staying in Brazil for extended periods of time (which is most of the members on this forum). For the retired, independently wealthy, remote worker, permanent resident, and etc. You have the Ability, Time and Desire to scour every nook and cranny for inexpensive gems.

2. Here is the thing. I respect how everyone on this forum spends their time in their pursuit, this is one of many reasons we travel. However, I will not denigrate anyone on what they spend regarding their pursuit and where they go to obtain it. There are some places I will go and some places I will not go, also my budget allows me to spend low or high, but I do not have the time to hunt everywhere for the sake of finding a gem.

3. I applaud anyone who can stay long term in country. RJ / SP are vast areas that probably have many venues to hunt of which many members are not aware of or do not want to travel to explore. But to those adventurous ones please just list the establishments or providers and members will decide if they want to partake if it provides value to them.

There are plenty of guys who go off on a vacation who don't want to spend it standing up fucking in a place where they don't even want to take their shoes off.

I am absolutely one of those guys!! LOL.

Albeit, Lonely Plant, delivery good guidebooks (not anymore according to some), it is after all just a guidebook, not the "Holy Grail", to traveling.

Yes

I finally clicked on the "bubba boy" report and started laughing. From March (or May) 2012 . WTF? I didn't get past the first line. Now I am sure it has some helpful tips for newbies but nothing anyone can't gather from a reading a few pages in the forum.
As a member of this forum, I post so others who might have the same mentality as I do get the info they require and in the same hope, I pick up some new tips.
Friends do what makes you happy, post about it and move on. If someone wants some advice from your posts, they can DM you and can help them.

Yes, Yes, Well Stated.


With that being said I would like to move on from this subject.

[Anaggie]

I finally clicked on the "bubba boy" report and started laughing. From March (or May) 2012 . WTF? I didn't get past the first line. Now I am sure it has some helpful tips for newbies but nothing anyone can't gather from a reading a few pages in the forum.

As a member of this forum, I post so others who might have the same mentality as I do get the info they require and in the same hope, I pick up some new tips.

Friends — do what makes you happy, post about it and move on. If someone wants some advice from your posts, they can DM you and can help them.

[Spidy]

None! Since I don't care to spend my money that way. Again I don't know why is being attributed my comment.

Absolutely! Your money your prerogative!

See the bubba boy report, search for good sex, search for mini relationships.

Don't need to. Also, my commentary is not related to above mentioned report, so I don't know why is being attributed my comment.

After all, not everyone who travels, reads or follows, the Lonely Planet guidebooks verbatim, as it relates to them.

Also take into account that their guidebooks, while they can be utilized by everyone in some fashion, they are more suited to those that travel with a low to mid style of traveling. Some of us just don't travel that way. While somethings may appeal to many, others will have no interest in said activity, sport, excursion, sightseeing...etc.

Albeit, Lonely Plant, delivery good guidebooks (not anymore according to some), it is after all just a guidebook, not the "Holy Grail", to traveling.

[The Cane]

I'm not saying it is wrong or right but he has credibility.

And he would have had even more credibility if he had noted that many of those cheaper places would be seen as squalid and / or dirty by many a monger reading reports on this site (like Termas 502). There are plenty of guys who go off on a vacation who don't want to spend it standing up fucking in a place where they don't even want to take their shoes off. I'm not saying all the cheap places are like that, but it's well known that many of them are. I think the clinicas of Sao Paulo have a better reputation for cleanliness than the prives of Rio de Janeiro do overall. At least he did note that one reason why some don't session in the Tier 1 termas is because they can't afford it. Lots of guy who patronize the cheaper places don't want to admit that. But it's true.

[Vagabundo1]

This is straight from the Bubba Boy guide, a ISG member who spent 10 years in Brazil:

"An interesting point: The locals guys tend to go to Termas, primarily to drink and maybe grab a cheap feel, or several cheap feels. The majority won't take a girl to a cabine at all, they may or not be able to afford it, but know they can find something way cheaper elsewhere.

The longer I spend in Rio, the more I head to the cheaper places and the prives, basically you can find some real gems for a fraction of the price of the expensive places. The only downside is that the cheaper places tend to have less of a choice, this can be overcome by going to 2 or 3 on the same night. Entrance is generally are $ 10 to are $ 20 and the girl maybe are $ 100, hence with a bit of work you can bang some one as hot or even hotter than at the expensive places for just are $ 150, half the price and twice the fun! I am amazed that I have found some girls that are hotter than even the hottest "L'Uomo-Centaurus-Barbarelas" GDP's and for only are $120 or so. Most if not all of these places except cash only and in the local currency. English is a lot less common."

I'm not saying it is wrong or right but he has credibility.

No! The point is individuals spend what they want given the perceived value proposition at that time.

[The Critic]

If I'm worried that I spent too much that's one thing. But if somebody else is worried that I spent too much, well that's quite another LOL! We all have spending limits and budgets we need to keep in mind. It's just that once I've set mine according to my own personal requirements, I don't care what somebody else thinks about that. From the very first moment that I took on this hobby, I have 100% lived by the following. Make sure your bills are paid and your investments made before you get laid!

Wish I said it first. LOL!

[The Critic]

The point is not that spending any particular amount is wrong, but that it does not always equate to good sex or better sex.

No! The point is individuals spend what they want given the perceived value proposition at that time. And if they want to post said amount they should not be criticized for it. Some members have deep pockets, Some do not. Some are frequent visitors or can live in country for weeks / months on end and others once in a lifetime or infrequent visitors. That is a huge determinant on spend rate. Money has never been a determinant to good sex or better sex in any P4 P situation especially when you don't know the providers mindset / motivation for being in the business in the first place and you never will.

At some point damn near every other day someone is asking about rates. Some rates are relatively fixed and some are not. However, there is a consensus of average rates (and members respond often what those rates are for those who take the time to RTFF) and then there are those who funds allow them at any given time to pay above or below the average rate.

See the bubba boy report, search for good sex, search for mini relationships.

Don't need to. Also, my commentary is not related to above mentioned report, so I don't know why is being attributed my comment.

How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.

None! Since I don't care to spend my money that way. Again I don't know why is being attributed my comment.

[ShawMan74]

I'll be in SP one day before you. I plan on visiting Scandallo and Connections on Thurs and Fri. Hit me up if you want to hang out. I'll probably be with at least 1 other ISGer. And I think I mentioned this earlier, but I think the hottest clinicas in SP are Prime and Abbobora.

I got no recommendations on a driver / guide. Is that for tourist or monger stuff? I don't think Sao Paulo is much of a tourist destination. Seems more like a financial / business district to me.

For sure, I'll hit you up when I'm there. I would like a reliable all-in-one driver / guide. Even if SP isn't much for tourism, I'm sure there's cigar bars, neat little cafes, raver clubs, or something. Of course a well versed driver can not only hook me up with the best mongering but also help insure my safety and answer any questions. I have a guy in Cali, medellin, rio, and Kiev.

[SinfullyKorean]

I'm going to be in SP for a week starting thurs, can't wait to contribute and hang with you guys for a bit. I'm staying in campo belo, and I saw the map. With all that being said, does anyone have a solid recommend for a driver / guide? THANKS!

BTW, after SP I'm going to rio for a week, and later this summer to Kiev! I already have my hookups in both places so if anyone wants a recommend, hit me up.

I'll be in SP one day before you. I plan on visiting Scandallo and Connections on Thurs and Fri. Hit me up if you want to hang out. I'll probably be with at least 1 other ISGer. And I think I mentioned this earlier, but I think the hottest clinicas in SP are Prime and Abbobora.

I got no recommendations on a driver / guide. Is that for tourist or monger stuff? I don't think Sao Paulo is much of a tourist destination. Seems more like a financial / business district to me.

[ShawMan74]

Hey guys, just want to introduce myself. I posted in the general info already, I'm new to this board but not to the forum or to Brazil (check my post history). I'm going to be in SP for a week starting thurs, can't wait to contribute and hang with you guys for a bit. I'm staying in campo belo, and I saw the map. With all that being said, does anyone have a solid recommend for a driver / guide? THANKS!

BTW, after SP I'm going to rio for a week, and later this summer to Kiev! I already have my hookups in both places so if anyone wants a recommend, hit me up.

[SamaRiding]

It knew it was wishful thinking but I just wanted to check to make sure.

I know this belongs in the FKK section but since people were asking here. Sharks has a holiday bonus for the girls who work the entire period from Christmas to New Years Eve, which essentially covers the girls' fees for that week. So Sharks is pretty much at full strength during this time. I did that week in Sharks several year ago and had a great time. It was fun to ring in the new year with a bunch of naked girls around you. The Romanian girls then go home afterwards to celebrate orthodox Christmas which is usually in mid Jan.

[Lalabo]

So don't be hard-headed and not listen. Don't do it! Just like in Europe, the girls have family and friends and want to enjoy the holiday season just like everybody else.

It knew it was wishful thinking but I just wanted to check to make sure.