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  1. #12232
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    In my view, Help was a very, very distant second to Scandallo. The facilities were nowhere near as nice, and the girls nowhere near as hot. I routinely left Help taking nobody. At Scandallo it's always my god so, so many good choices I can't decide! To be fair, by the time I started going to Brazil, Help's best days had already passed. The facilities were never on par with Scandallo, but I understand there was a time when the girls were hot, and the price was right. I missed that Helpee era.
    For me Help was like a magnet I could not resist when in Brazil. It had an infectious vibe both inside and outside. You never could predict what drama you would see between or among girls and between girls and guys and on some occasions I was part of the drama as, for example, leaving the disco with a girl and once outside she tries to pull some BS on me and I have to ditch her and she demanding money to get back inside which I never gave. The variety of girls you would meet there was amazing; I took some really hot girls from Help to my room. Good times.

  2. #12231
    Just like us guys that get around the clubs so do the girls. They too club hop after getting tired of one place. Especially one's are medium range where they can get about their same rate. But the high end girls that will ask 1 k one hour will stay at Scandallo because that's where they can get their asking price.

    Like I said before, all the hot girls end up in SP because it is where the money is at. Scandallo is high end but there are private mansions that are even more high end but those you need a Brazilian buddy to get you in. But these girls get like US prices so not worth it IMO.

  3. #12230
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    I had my first dinner out in a restaurant Saturday night with my MClass garota andmero um. It was our 3rd and best session. She is a keeper and I plan to stay in touch with her and see her next time I am in town.
    May I ask was the dinner time on the clock? How did this come up in the discussion?

    I enjoy taking cool girls to dinner and what have you before or after a session. You kind of know when the girl will just hang out. The SP escort scene is a little different and I'm sure multiple sessions got her to a certain stage of comfort.

  4. #12229
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    In my view, Help was a very, very distant second to Scandallo. The facilities were nowhere near as nice, and the girls nowhere near as hot. I routinely left Help taking nobody. At Scandallo it's always my god so, so many good choices I can't decide! To be fair, by the time I started going to Brazil, Help's best days had already passed. The facilities were never on par with Scandallo, but I understand there was a time when the girls were hot, and the price was right. I missed that Helpee era.
    First time I have been in RJ and Florida bar was in 1995 and I was only 18 years old. Girls were asking for 20 dollars per noite.

  5. #12228
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearsi  [View Original Post]
    Is the Prime Clinica you are talking about at this address: Av. Ira, 511 - Moema, So Paulo. SP, 04082-001?

    It's crazy how many decent clinicas are within walking distance from each other! I literally walked past a couple going to get food in between breaks from the clinica visits without knowing it.

    Clinica Carinas is a decent house as well.

    I believe I also sessioned with bruna and she was great. Very sensual and slow session that I also enjoyed! They also have good rooms with mirrors on the ceilings and walls and good clean showers. Highly recommend as well if you don't find what you'in looking for in abbobora which I still think is my favorite since the girls were very friendly and never had a bad session or didn't like at least 3 girls in the line up. It was consistent which I like although the bathroom and bed were just ok but pretty standard set up like the rest of the other houses.
    Yes, Prime is at Av. Iraí, 511 - Moema. I like walking around the neighborhood too. But nothing tops Sukhumvit Soi 24 to Soi 26 in BKK for convenience and for in your face (girls sitting outside their parlors beckoning customers inside), wall to wall oilie massage joints. Geylang, in Singapore, was also a national treasure as far as punting and casas were concerned until gentrification began a few years ago. I fondly remember the nights when in addition to all the great Geylang houses (casas) I used to enjoy, there were 100's and 100's of SW girls from Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, and China hanging about. They would swarm you at certain residential intersections, 50 to 60 girls at a time. It was all good fun and an amazing experience!

    I forgot to mention, that yes, the facilities at Clinica Carinas were the best of the three clinicas I visited. They had a nicely furnished bedrooms and large, clean bathrooms. But the facilities at Abbobora and Prime were ok / good. Bruna! Nice girl. So soft and tender.

  6. #12227

    Distance

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Couldn't agree more. I would argue that HELP! (pronounced "Helpee", by Brazilians), back-in-the-day was perhaps a close second to a Scandallo type atmosphere that you're wishing for.

    Naturally, just an educated guess, since I haven't been to Scandallo (I'll leave that for others to chime-in). But HELP! also had its fair share of stunners, hotties and cuties, coming from all over Brazil, to shake their money makers, in abundance.

    For me back then, there was very little need to go to SP, as I tended to enjoy more of what the northern beach and Amazonian cities had to offer.

    Yes, one can only dream and wish another HELP! or Scandallo type club, will Rio get back to those type of glory days. But until then I hope Rio, SP and Scandallo, continues to entertain your needs when in Brazil.

    Keep the comparisons coming, I think it helps newbies and MBs a like, make better decisions w/r to differences and the pros and cons of Rio vs. SP.
    In my view, Help was a very, very distant second to Scandallo. The facilities were nowhere near as nice, and the girls nowhere near as hot. I routinely left Help taking nobody. At Scandallo it's always my god so, so many good choices I can't decide! To be fair, by the time I started going to Brazil, Help's best days had already passed. The facilities were never on par with Scandallo, but I understand there was a time when the girls were hot, and the price was right. I missed that Helpee era.

  7. #12226
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearsi  [View Original Post]
    . . . I love how many options you have (boates, clinicas, online girls) and how they don't interfere with each other so you can do clinicas or online girls in the day and boates at night. . . .

    If they made a scandallo type boate in rio . . .
    Couldn't agree more. I would argue that HELP! (pronounced "Helpee", by Brazilians), back-in-the-day was perhaps a close second to a Scandallo type atmosphere that you're wishing for.

    Naturally, just an educated guess, since I haven't been to Scandallo (I'll leave that for others to chime-in). But HELP! also had its fair share of stunners, hotties and cuties, coming from all over Brazil, to shake their money makers, in abundance.

    For me back then, there was very little need to go to SP, as I tended to enjoy more of what the northern beach and Amazonian cities had to offer.

    Yes, one can only dream and wish another HELP! or Scandallo type club, will Rio get back to those type of glory days. But until then I hope Rio, SP and Scandallo, continues to entertain your needs when in Brazil.

    Keep the comparisons coming, I think it helps newbies and MBs a like, make better decisions w/r to differences and the pros and cons of Rio vs. SP.

  8. #12225
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Mongering aside, the jokes, fables and wisecracks presented here by myself and others w/r to the age old feud/rivalry between Cariocas vs. Paulistas, if anything serve to highlight the stark differences in social culture, politics, atmosphere and attitudes of the two (2) cites.

    So while the debate will continue to rage on, one can glean small insights into each city from such simple fables/jokes.

    For example, if cities (and by extension the people) do indeed have attributes such as culture, politics, atmosphere and attitudes, then I known myself, well enough know, Rio fits my personality and profile better then SP.

    Although, there will always be hints of SP, that I will continue to like way better than Rio.
    I'll take Sao Paolo over Rio any day. Not just for mongering, either. There are parts of SP that are actually nice to hang out in, and I don't just mean a hotel or a beach (as someone who grew up in Florida, I never understood why people travel across the world just to see a beach).

    To me, you can't even compare the two. After you've seen the tourist sites, what's left to do in Rio? In SP, I found prives where it's about $30/ girl. I read that SP has 20% of the GDP of all of South America.

  9. #12224

    Gleaning Insights

    Quote Originally Posted by Bearsi  [View Original Post]
    I have a love / hate relationship with SP. . . but for now its a give and take with the SP and RJ debate which I wrote a whole post comparing the two if you want to check it out.
    Mongering aside, the jokes, fables and wisecracks presented here by myself and others w/r to the age old feud/rivalry between Cariocas vs. Paulistas, if anything serve to highlight the stark differences in social culture, politics, atmosphere and attitudes of the two (2) cites.

    So while the debate will continue to rage on, one can glean small insights into each city from such simple fables/jokes.

    For example, if cities (and by extension the people) do indeed have attributes such as culture, politics, atmosphere and attitudes, then I known myself, well enough know, Rio fits my personality and profile better then SP.

    Although, there will always be hints of SP, that I will continue to like way better than Rio.

  10. #12223

    Good Reports

    Good number of detailed and informative reports! Keep up the good reportage fellas.

  11. #12222
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for much needed update.

    Yes, a Very popular theme, that runs through Rio vs. SP folklore.

    Their is also a popular Rio vs. SP, Brazilian joke that goes something like this:

    Cariocas chuckle and say:
    Paulistas, on the other hand, hackle back and say: Yep! Rio vs. SP folklore spats can be legendary.
    I have a love / hate relationship with SP.

    I love how many options you have (boates, clinicas, online girls) and how they don't interfere with each other so you can do clinicas or online girls in the day and boates at night. Many great high rise options on airbnb for cheap just make sure they allow girls to visit.

    I hate how there isn't much to do but go to the parks, restaurants and malls for fun. I'm sure there are more fun things to do in SP but it's mainly in Portuguese obviously so I can't understand it or enjoy it as much or it's buried somewhere deep or far since it's a monster of a city and everything is like 35 min uber drive away. Plus I enjoy a good warm beach and mountains personally.

    If they made a scandallo type boate in rio specifically in the barra de tijuca area where all the nice high rise condos / apartments are than I would say rio without a doubt would have everything but for now its a give and take with the SP and RJ debate which I wrote a whole post comparing the two if you want to check it out.

  12. #12221
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    The weather has been great in SP these last few days. As of Saturday certain restrictions have been lifted. The restaurants can now have seated customers inside their establishments, but must close at 7 pm. Malls and retail shops are open, they were open the day before too, but now most stores have reopened. The parks are open as well. It is real nice to see SP and its inhabitants coming back to life. I had my first dinner out in a restaurant Saturday night with my MClass garota andmero um. It was our 3rd and best session. She is a keeper and I plan to stay in touch with her and see her next time I am in town.

    I assume the clinicas can now be officially open and do not need to hide in plain sight like they did the last 10 days or so. Here is my report:

    I like Abbobora and have been there 3 times and done 3 girls there. The Abbobora girls are super friendly. I went overtime with my 1st Abbobora girl, Lais (not sure on the spelling) and she finished me off with CIM. I warned her I was about to explode, but she kept sucking and she took every drop I had to give before she stopped. She is the girl who earlier in the session before vaginal intercourse spat on my index finger and stuck it up her vagina while she masturbated herself into an orgasm. My kind of girl!

    My 2nd Abbobora girl was also REAL enthusiastic, and she too finished me off with CIM and took every drop. Anita was a nice-looking girl with natural curves.

    But my favorite clinica of the trip, the place where I have had the most fun, without a doubt is Prime Clinica. This is the clinica I was referring to in my last post. Their front gate was always open. Just walk right in. I really like the girls here. So far, I have done 5 girls and I repeated with Marina, a skinny, wild little spinner with a great body and an offbeat personality. But I take my hat off to all the girls at Prime Clinica that I met there: Angelica, Agatha, Marina, Gabrielle, and Kari. Each girl gave her session everything she had to give or at least that's the way they made it seem to me. For 240 br per hour, I couldn't imagine a better bordello.

    Another interesting thing about Prime is their lineup is always different on a daily basis. I never saw the same girls in the lineup there except for Marina. My 5 girls were all repeat worthy which is the highest compliment I can give a casa like this. So my advice is, forget about specific girly recommendations. The girls come and go. Prime must have 30 or 40 girls on their roster, but only 10 or so girls are in the house on a daily basis. There are 6 rooms. I specifically asked for Angelica, my 1st Prime girl, a couple of times and I was told she will be back in a few days. Then, I just gave up on requests and selected my girl from the daily lineups who most appealed to me at the point of sale. It worked. Every girl I had performed admirably. So just go there, pick the girl you like best, and have a good time.

    I liked Prime more than Abbobora because IMHO I thought Prime had prettier girls, but that could just my luck or timing and the sessions I had with the Prime girls were more traditional GFE IE very passionate / enthusiastic sex while my Abbobora sessions were more PSE. Everyone should go with whatever style, whichever casa you prefer.

    But my session Friday afternoon with Kari also included a wet and wild 'round the world 69 before we settled down into the more traditional GFE in 4 different positions, finishing in sideways scissors. I thought Kari was another great girl! She reminded me of the girl that pet sits for my Bengal cats and Macaw back home when I travel. There is no denying it, I must subconsciously want to shag my pet sitter. Ha Ha.

    The third and final place I visited was Clinica Carinas where I hooked up with Bruna. This casa was open by reservation only during the closure. My session with Bruna was pretty fantastic. Something clicked between her and myself during the kissing and foreplay part and the session turned out great. Very GFE! Bruna is an older girl well into her thirties. But, she still looks real good. She must have been a stunner in her early years and she keeps herself fit, all natural, pretty face and very, very soft skin. I like her too!

    So that is about all I have to report on the SP Clinicas. I am big fan now. I know I missed some other recommended Clincias like Miruna and Enjoy. Thanks for mentioning them guys (Cane, Turgid, and many others) in your reports. I know I will try to get around to them on my next trip.
    Is the Prime Clinica you are talking about at this address: Av. Iraí, 511 - Moema, São Paulo. SP, 04082-001?

    It's crazy how many decent clinicas are within walking distance from each other! I literally walked past a couple going to get food in between breaks from the clinica visits without knowing it.

    Clinica Carinas is a decent house as well.

    They give you a tablet which has pictures of the girls instead of a lineup which is different from the rest of the other places but for some can be less intimidating for newcomers I suppose. Each girl has a few photos on their profile and some stats so very useful.

    I believe I also sessioned with bruna and she was great. Very sensual and slow session that I also enjoyed! They also have good rooms with mirrors on the ceilings and walls and good clean showers. Highly recommend as well if you don't find what you're looking for in abbobora which I still think is my favorite since the girls were very friendly and never had a bad session or didn't like at least 3 girls in the line up. It was consistent which I like although the bathroom and bed were just ok but pretty standard set up like the rest of the other houses.

  13. #12220
    Scandallo will be open on Monday 26 April. I saw a poster of concert on Monday 26 April. Scandallo is a luxurious place to hangout, grab something to eat, and do some sessions after the clinicas are closed.

    During the day: clinicas.

    Night: Scandallo or Connection or Bamboa.

    Sunday: Use WhatsApp to invite clinica or Scandallo chics to apt.

    If you can bring a chic to the swing club Hot Bar, by all means do so. Don't go as a single guy because it will cost you 500 reals entry fee and as a single guy, you will not be allowed to enter the "couple area".

    I am starting to like the P4P situation in Sao Paulo even better than the Euro fkks. All the p4p facilities in Sao Paulo are non-smoking, in contrast to the smoke-infested Euro fkks. My wallet likes Sao Paulo better too. It was hard to get consistent GFE service in cheap German fkks like Sharks. For reliable GFE service in Europe, I had to go expensive Globe in Zurich @ 280 CHF / hour. A 3-hour session at Globe would set me back 840 CHF. Ouch!! A 3-hour session with an equally hot chic in Sao Paulo can be had for 1,000 reals.

    From now on, my main destination is Sao Paulo. However, after Europe opens again, I will still go to fkk Globe occasionally to satisfy the temptation for naked girls and public sex. Globe has the best lineup in the world, if you like the slender gazelle physique like I do. 99% of Globe girls are slim with flat tummies, slender legs and slender asses.

    If I could work remotely, I would live in Sao Paulo.

    Enjoy. Cheers. Viva Sao Paulo.

  14. #12219
    The weather has been great in SP these last few days. As of Saturday certain restrictions have been lifted. The restaurants can now have seated customers inside their establishments, but must close at 7 pm. Malls and retail shops are open, they were open the day before too, but now most stores have reopened. The parks are open as well. It is real nice to see SP and its inhabitants coming back to life. I had my first dinner out in a restaurant Saturday night with my MClass garota andúmero um. It was our 3rd and best session. She is a keeper and I plan to stay in touch with her and see her next time I am in town.

    I assume the clinicas can now be officially open and do not need to hide in plain sight like they did the last 10 days or so. Here is my report:

    I like Abbobora and have been there 3 times and done 3 girls there. The Abbobora girls are super friendly. I went overtime with my 1st Abbobora girl, Lais (not sure on the spelling) and she finished me off with CIM. I warned her I was about to explode, but she kept sucking and she took every drop I had to give before she stopped. She is the girl who earlier in the session before vaginal intercourse spat on my index finger and stuck it up her vagina while she masturbated herself into an orgasm. My kind of girl!

    My 2nd Abbobora girl was also REAL enthusiastic, and she too finished me off with CIM and took every drop. Anita was a nice-looking girl with natural curves.

    But my favorite clinica of the trip, the place where I have had the most fun, without a doubt is Prime Clinica. This is the clinica I was referring to in my last post. Their front gate was always open. Just walk right in. I really like the girls here. So far, I have done 5 girls and I repeated with Marina, a skinny, wild little spinner with a great body and an offbeat personality. But I take my hat off to all the girls at Prime Clinica that I met there: Angelica, Agatha, Marina, Gabrielle, and Kari. Each girl gave her session everything she had to give or at least that's the way they made it seem to me. For 240 br per hour, I couldn't imagine a better bordello.

    Another interesting thing about Prime is their lineup is always different on a daily basis. I never saw the same girls in the lineup there except for Marina. My 5 girls were all repeat worthy which is the highest compliment I can give a casa like this. So my advice is, forget about specific girly recommendations. The girls come and go. Prime must have 30 or 40 girls on their roster, but only 10 or so girls are in the house on a daily basis. There are 6 rooms. I specifically asked for Angelica, my 1st Prime girl, a couple of times and I was told she will be back in a few days. Then, I just gave up on requests and selected my girl from the daily lineups who most appealed to me at the point of sale. It worked. Every girl I had performed admirably. So just go there, pick the girl you like best, and have a good time.

    I liked Prime more than Abbobora because IMHO I thought Prime had prettier girls, but that could just my luck or timing and the sessions I had with the Prime girls were more traditional GFE IE very passionate / enthusiastic sex while my Abbobora sessions were more PSE. Everyone should go with whatever style, whichever casa you prefer.

    But my session Friday afternoon with Kari also included a wet and wild 'round the world 69 before we settled down into the more traditional GFE in 4 different positions, finishing in sideways scissors. I thought Kari was another great girl! She reminded me of the girl that pet sits for my Bengal cats and Macaw back home when I travel. There is no denying it, I must subconsciously want to shag my pet sitter. Ha Ha.

    The third and final place I visited was Clinica Carinas where I hooked up with Bruna. This casa was open by reservation only during the closure. My session with Bruna was pretty fantastic. Something clicked between her and myself during the kissing and foreplay part and the session turned out great. Very GFE! Bruna is an older girl well into her thirties. But, she still looks real good. She must have been a stunner in her early years and she keeps herself fit, all natural, pretty face and very, very soft skin. I like her too!

    So that is about all I have to report on the SP Clinicas. I am big fan now. I know I missed some other recommended Clincias like Miruna and Enjoy. Thanks for mentioning them guys (Cane, Turgid, and many others) in your reports. I know I will try to get around to them on my next trip.

  15. #12218
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I liked Miruna and Enjoy too. Also Tangara.
    No one mentions France Bel. I last went there in 2016 when I sessioned an ethnic German named Christiane Becker. There is no parade of girls but you look at screen shots of girls where there is an indication of which girls are available; they were quite similar to their photos. I reported on my visit back in 2016. Their girls were quite nice looking. Anyone visited there since?

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