Sao Paulo Reports

[Axel Heyst]

I was surprised to hear someone put Bahamas Club on par with Cafe Photo. In my opinion Scandallo is in a league of its own followed by Cafe Photo and Bomboa. Then Connection Nightclub next, followed by Bahamas Club and Casaroa both being on the same level in terms of quality of girls, luxury, comfort, etc. Well Bahamas Club may be more comfortable than Casarao actually, but I didn't see any girls I liked at either establishment, whereas the others never failed in that regard.

This is an excellent example of YMMV. I started going to Bahamas last year when one of my Scandallo girls texted me that she had just started to work at Bahamas and asked if I would come by to see her. This girl is a very tall 6 ft, slender blond, with a very pretty face, and she is simply fantastic in bed. I did not pay much attention to the other Bahamas girls when I would visit, but a few of them looked session worthy to me hence my opinion.

My favorite Boates are 1. Scandallo and 2. Bomboa. I have never been to Connection. I really should go! And I like Casarao, but usually I can't wait until midnight, so I end up going somewhere else earlier.

[Axel Heyst]

I was there in late Sept / early Oct. I didn't have to do fingerprint and so was two other peoples I was with.

Good info. Thanks.

[The Cane]

Bahamas is far behind in term of number of girls, luxury, and beautiness. Of course is cheaper.

I was surprised to hear someone put Bahamas Club on par with Cafe Photo. In my opinion Scandallo is in a league of its own followed by Cafe Photo and Bomboa. Then Connection Nightclub next, followed by Bahamas Club and Casaroa both being on the same level in terms of quality of girls, luxury, comfort, etc. Well Bahamas Club may be more comfortable than Casarao actually, but I didn't see any girls I liked at either establishment, whereas the others never failed in that regard.

[FlowState985]

I discussed the fingerprint issue with the manager when I first arrived at Cafe Photo back in June 2023 and I offered him my ID, but he said the fingerprint method was faster and better for subsequent visits and he insisted on my fingerprint for this visit. I thought he was talking total bull crap at the time, so it would not surprise me if Cafe Photo has dropped their very dumb entry requirement. I am sure it has hurt business. Can anyone confirm FlowStates reported change in Cafe Photo's entry requirement?

I was there in late Sept / early Oct. I didn't have to do fingerprint and so was two other peoples I was with.

[Axel Heyst]

Since first week of November (for formula 1), Cafe Photo has the rooms available inside. When you walk from the corridor to enter you have club reception on the left (as before) and hotel reception on the right. The cost for room fee is 350 reais x hour (more than in Scandallo, now fixed at 300 reais x h). The rooms are a bit smaller than Scandallo room but still very confortable (TV screen were still missing but guess will be installed soon in each room).

Now if you want to take out the girl is still an option but you have to pay the exit fee (about 350 reais) which was not due before because of room's absence.

Girls were about 80+ and on average they start from 1,5 k reais and down to 1 k after negotiation.

Bahamas is far behind in term of number of girls, luxury, and beautiness. Of course is cheaper.

A very interesting update, Rio. The problem with Cafe Photo's new business strategy of charging customers more (1. The new room or exit fee 300 and 2. The latest avg price for boom boom 1000 although the 200 increase since I was there might be due to F1 _ I don't know) is that it makes a visit to Cafe Photo more expensive than say a visit to Scandallo limiting one's selection to only Scandallo girls of similar quality to the girls at Cafe Photo ie well dressed, tier 2 type girls. So, in effect for similar quality, Cafe Photo is pricing their product and services above those at Scandallo. Good luck with that.

But maybe the management knows something not mentioned so far in the discussion. Location, Location, Location. A lot of businessmen stay in those 4* & 5* hotels near or on Av. Das Naes Unidas in Brooklin. An Uber from the Hilton to Cafe Photo takes 10 to 15 minutes at 9 pm whereas an Uber from the Hilton to Scandallo usually takes 30 to 40 minutes. I would do the Scandallo trek 29 out 30 times, but I am sure there are businessmen staying around Av. Das Naes Unidas who are tired, bored, and don't want to take a long taxi ride just to get a little something before going to sleep.

[Axel Heyst]

You can decline fingerprint. They said they want to do it so it's faster to check people in, but you just tell them you don't want to do it and show them your ID.

I discussed the fingerprint issue with the manager when I first arrived at Cafe Photo back in June 2023 and I offered him my ID, but he said the fingerprint method was faster and better for subsequent visits and he insisted on my fingerprint for this visit. I thought he was talking total bull crap at the time, so it would not surprise me if Cafe Photo has dropped their very dumb entry requirement. I am sure it has hurt business. Can anyone confirm FlowStates reported change in Cafe Photo's entry requirement?

[Rio Fan 1]

Since first week of November (for formula 1), Cafe Photo has the rooms available inside. When you walk from the corridor to enter you have club reception on the left (as before) and hotel reception on the right. The cost for room fee is 350 reais x hour (more than in Scandallo, now fixed at 300 reais x h). The rooms are a bit smaller than Scandallo room but still very confortable (TV screen were still missing but guess will be installed soon in each room).

Now if you want to take out the girl is still an option but you have to pay the exit fee (about 350 reais) which was not due before because of room's absence.

Girls were about 80+ and on average they start from 1,5 k reais and down to 1 k after negotiation.

Bahamas is far behind in term of number of girls, luxury, and beautiness. Of course is cheaper.

[FlowState985]

Yeah, Cafe Photo's fingerprint entry requirement is dumb.

You can decline fingerprint. They said they want to do it so it's faster to check people in, but you just tell them you don't want to do it and show them your ID.

[Kcrl01]

That said, I don't have a problem with no room venues. It is a different set up that is all. I have been taking bar girls & go go girls back to my hotel room for 25 years. Only on very rare occasions have I had a service problem with a girl, and I show her the door, but other than that, I have never had a serious problem bringing a "new" girl back to my place. The key here, as far as boate girls are concerned, is that a Boate girl has a known identity, so she would have to be out her mind to try something criminal on a new customer in his hotel room. So, it is a very rare event. Still, it is a really good idea to lock up all valuables before going out. KKK.

Boate girls have a known identity, yes, that may be true. I live in SP and I've noticed this trend happening to associates in town for maybe a week or two on business. They'll hook up with a boate girl at the boate, and find a regular. Later they arrange for the girl to come over to their place. Once there they'll drug you or in the case of a friend, knock you over the head with a blunt object. Then they rob you of your laptop, mobile, clothing, cash, or anything of value.

The victim will call the cops, but they do nothing. The victim goes back to the boate to complain about the girl. Management will say she was working independently and there's nothing they can do. In actuality, it was a setup from the jump and the house gets a cut.

Cheers, stay toxic my friends!

[Axel Heyst]

I will give Scandallo a shot if I can manage it. From what I've read the going rate there is around 700 ish, which makes me lean towards overnigjt / longer service in general. (No time pressure, getting to know her better).

But if you never met a particular girl before, and you do not know how well the two of you are going to relate, how do you know you want to go LT with her? I would rather stick around the club and have two sessions with 2 different girls.

I assume most of everything is paid via credit card, aside from the girls. How much money do you usually bring to such a night out? (Is it unwise to bring all cash?

I always use CC's to pay the Boate tab and hotel charge and I usually bring 1000 to 1200 BR cash with me to Scandallo just in case I start flirting with a Tier 1 girl, ha ha, and decide she is the one. I usually bring 800 BR to Bomboa and only 600 BR to Casarao. But here is the beauty of the boate system: let's say I go to Scandallo some Thursday night around 9:30 pm with 1200 BR and a credit card in my wallet. My 1st session for 800 BR with a real nice girl next door type was very passionate so I invite the girl to dinner. After dinner we part company and I wander around and in a little while I spot a pretty spinner sitting all alone. I say Hi and yada yada yada we are having a good time near the back of the outdoor patio bar. I want her and she wants 800. I only have have 400 left. No problem. I charge 400 to the CC, but I make sure to do this as we are leaving. I will never pay a boate girl in advance.

P.S. Sundays and National holidays are no problem for me. I always set aside these slow nights for Valeria, my current favorite Brazilian girl and a few other top contenders.

[DreamCarnarvon]

Just a little FYI. Might help someone. I just returned from Tangara. It has changed from when I first started going in 2017. At that time all the girls would come through the waiting room on a rotation. If you wanted them to they would sit with you for a while and you could discuss the weather or the services they were willing to do.

I haven't really noticed much of a change to Tangara's operation. There are still usually 2 gerentes on shift and I have always been shown the lineup of all the available girls. Never had a problem whenever I ask to talk to the girls about their services. Because it can get quite busy there, its best to go when you are not in a hurry and willing to wait for 1 hour or more. That way if the girl you like gets taken, you can then ask to be the next one up. Just don't expect you will get the girl you want as soon as you walk in. Another strategy is to scout beforehand, take note of the girl (s) you want to do, then keep an eye on their daily whatsapp status to schedule for an appointment ahead of time.

At Yankin, which I consider to be the sister clinica of Tangara, things are not as organized. They can be even more busier than Tangara and therefore the gerentes aren't always attentive to the clients simply because they are either busy answering phones or coordinating sessions. Here, the gerents aren't going to actively come up to you to ask if you have an appointment, offer the presentation or asking you which girl (s) you liked in the presentation. Bottom line is, time and patience is a must at any clinica.

[Axel Heyst]

Yeah, Cafe Photo's fingerprint entry requirement is dumb, and it deterred me from going there for a longtime, but I eventually caved out of curiosity and I will have to live with the risk. But like I said in my previous post, Bahamas is a very similar type of boate. The main difference is Bahamas has rooms and the only entry requirement is your driver's license. So, if you are seeking a smaller, Hi class, boate experience, then either Bahamas or Cafe Photo would have what you are looking for.

This for me is a red flag with Cafe Photo, and the first reason I wouldn't recommend it. I'm personally not all that comfortable with a brothel having my biometric data. The second reason it loses points is their lack of rooms. While I like having girls back to my place, its nice to have the first time be in a more controlled environment. Also as mentioned it has far fewer girls than Scandallo, but with similar prices. IMO all of these factors combine to make it a much less talked about club.

No rooms are a plus and a minus depending on how you look at it. As I pointed out in my previous post, no rooms mean no room or exit fees. That is a good plus. But like you, I have grown used to the SP Boate in-house way and now I prefer doing my "new" boate girls in the boate first. Then if we click, I will get her WhatsApp number and we will start to see one another at my hotel.

But, preferring in-house Boate sessions with my first time boate girls is not a security issue for me. It is more like the idea of having a good time spending a night out at a boate doing boate things; like looking around / checking out the girls, having a couple drinks, an audition or two if needed, boom boom upstairs, dinner afterwards, and then depending on how one feels, there is always the possibility of having another girl to round out the evening. So, I love spending the night at my 2 favorite boates; Scandallo & Bomboa.

That said, I don't have a problem with no room venues. It is a different set up that is all. I have been taking bar girls & go go girls back to my hotel room for 25 years. Only on very rare occasions have I had a service problem with a girl, and I show her the door, but other than that, I have never had a serious problem bringing a "new" girl back to my place. The key here, as far as boate girls are concerned, is that a Boate girl has a known identity, so she would have to be out her mind to try something criminal on a new customer in his hotel room. So, it is a very rare event. Still, it is a really good idea to lock up all valuables before going out. KKK.

[CourteousGuy]

CourteousGuy

Scandallo would definitely be my recommendation for Saturday, and any other night you can manage it. There are a decent number of girls who speak English, though its still not a ton. If English is a top priority I'd say Bomboa isn't a bad idea, though I'm hesitant to talk someone out of going to Scandallo. At Bomboa you'll get seated by a waiter who will bring you drinks, and my regular guy would always make suggestions for girls and bring them over for me to talk to. When I first started going there he assumed I wanted English speakers, and while it wasn't a big deal for me either way, for you it sounds like it would be easier than Scandallo where you're going to have to pick girls at random and hope for the best. One thing to note is most of the best girls are on the floor by 9-10 pm, so you could conceivably talk to someone for an hour, go upstairs for an hour, and still be back at your hotel by 12:30-1. I don't know if that's too late to be out for your schedule.

On Sunday you're going to have a much harder time, as most of the clubs are closed. Some Clinicas will be open during the day, and while you can definitely have a good time its a quick in / out experience. The girls will typically be passionate and fun, but once your time is up that's it. Tangara and Yankin are my favorites and they both have bars you can hang out at, but without Portuguese you're not going to be able to socialize all that well. Casarao is open and it can get good later, but its fairly dead before 12 am. There are a handful of girls who speak English there as well, but its far fewer than Scandallo. Additionally while they may be flirty and make you feel desirable in the run up to sex, once you're done with the room I wouldn't expect much after that. Casarao being cheaper, the girls typically need to hustle more and see multiple customers, while at Scandallo most girls are fine with just one, and as a result don't mind spending more time with you before / after.

Lastly you might want to consider getting a girls contact information and just planning to spend time with her on Sunday if you're really looking for an experience beyond sex. I've personally found overnights tend to run around 1500-1700, so you could probably arrange a lunch date and afternoon of fun for a similar rate. If you can manage to get out a few times during the week, you can likely find someone who fits your needs well. Hopefully that helps.

Thanks for the Info JZeleznik!

I will give Scandallo a shot if I can manage it. From what I've read the going rate there is around 700 ish, which makes me lean towards overnigjt / longer service in general. (No time pressure, getting to know her better).

Is there like an option at Scandallo or even at Casaro to have the room longer (and at what price?) or do you usually then head out to your hotel?

I assume most of everything is paid via credit card, aside from the girls. How much money do you usually bring to such a night out? (Is it unwise to bring all cash?

I will also put Bamboa on my list, as it sounds like an easy option to talk to a few english speaking girls.

Tangara is on my list already and I will add Yankin then.

Sunday might be rough yes. If I am unlucky, I will give escort (maybe via photoacomp) a shot.

I think I will need to go to all locations via Uber or Taxi, as I've heard some areas might not be the safest to walk around alone.

Kind regards,

See.

[Knowledge]

Six hours is not so bad really.

Travel time is about 6 hours. The way I see it is little bit over 2 x of air travel time (flight time of 1 HR, get to airport 1-1. 5 hours in advance especially if you have luggage to checkin + waiting for bags at destination). I am never that pressed for time so I have no problem spending 6 hours especially early in the day as I usually don't have any activities planned before noon. So taking an early morning bus and getting to Rio / SP by 2 or 3 pm is perfect for checking into Airbnb. I like the relatively inexpensive travel alternative BUS provides when airfares shoot up. Yes, I would say the BUS travel seens to be safe in Brazil, at least between Rio & SP. I love the ride quality of these buses, very rarely experience road bumps.

[Knowledge]

It's been this way for at least a couple of years that I'm aware of, and not only at Tangara. Guys call or whatsapp appointments with girls. As you stated, it really limits access to the girls. That's a real problem for guys on a tight schedule who need to squeeze sessions in between business commitments. For me Tangara is still a valuable part of the Vila Mariana triangle with Yankin and the a few doors down the hill from it.

Just a little FYI. Might help someone. I just returned from Tangara. It has changed from when I first started going in 2017. At that time all the girls would come through the waiting room on a rotation. If you wanted them to they would sit with you for a while and you could discuss the weather or the services they were willing to do. Some of it had to do with my wingman but here is how it has changed. Every now and then one or two girls will walk through the waiting room and introduce themselves to you. It appears a lot of the arrangements are online with guys scheduling the girl before they arrive at the place. They have two phone numbers with lists, one with client input and one without. I prefer the one without. You can contact them and they will give you the WhatsApp numbers.

Since I have a girl coming in the morning and the one I wanted went to a session shortly after I got there, I declined to partake and went to my apartment. There were several very pretty ones there tonight.