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04-27-20 14:47 #11003
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Have you test driven your favorite librarian?
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04-26-20 23:12 #11002
Posts: 1127Michel Thomas Method portuguese language course
Yep, Pimsleur is a pretty good Portuguese language course and was what I started out with at first. I later moved on to use Michel Thomas Method (MTM) Portuguese course and found it a bit more explanatory in Portuguese conversational usage. MTM is a bit more Portugal Portuguese focused on pronunciation. Both are good to purchase and you won't be disappointed with either.
If you're not sure which one to go with, you may be able to test drive copies at your local library.
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04-26-20 22:27 #11001
Posts: 2041This is great advice below on how and where to pick-up Portuguese. One caveat though: I did the Pimsleur audio courses after I had made many trips to Brazil. Pimsleur requires a bit more engagement. So one needs to be committed to making regular visits to Brazil to make it worthwhile.
And yes, hanging out with garotas who don't speak much English accelerates learning the language.
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04-26-20 19:01 #11000
Posts: 2345Learning Porto
I wonder if my two bits might be helpful for the Porto-challenged? I don't find learning languages easy but after so many years in Br for months at a time some sort of ability became innate.
My thoughts.
A simply tape for one's first trip, listened to over and over on the plane. Then you at least can seem polite when you arrive and your bom dias and obrigados won't sound forced or incomprehensible. Bring a pocket phrase book. Speak gently. Not loud.
Pick a useful word or phrase before leaving the apartment each day. Use it as many times as you can before getting back that day.
If you can afford Pimsleur, just play it over while doing some chores. It will at least get you acclimatised to reasonable intonation. When you practice saying something, imagine you are Brazilian (sounds crazy but I found it helps to imitate the speech muscles the way the language is spoken). Only for speaking purposes, don't pretend to be Brazilian!
Cariocas are the best to listen to as they over-emphasise and dramatise and they are more expressive when talking, which helps to convey meaning.
After a week or two, hang out in low life bars. Drink cola. Other people will talk slower after a drink giving you slightly more time to understand. Stand at the bar even so you overhear conversations. Learn some slang, not rude stuff, and when it's used. Later, ask your chica or even a shop assistant to confirm if you are using it correctly. Only practice rude stuff during a session of course.
If you can get an ordinary chica to hang out with you who doesn't speak much English she will help as you'll have no choice but to learn some Porto.
There are two other groups of chicas broadly speaking who speak English. Ones who are educated (and can explain things) and ones that live or work in Copa. The Copa ones talk tourist town English. Otherwise, SaoPaulo.
Brazilian Portuguese evolves. They like making words up. Adding -inho or -inha to the end of words (as diminutive) is fun.
Enjoy.
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04-26-20 00:32 #10999
Posts: 557Fyi
Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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04-25-20 21:15 #10998
Posts: 1081Man! From your mouth to the Devils ears!!
Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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04-25-20 19:51 #10997
Posts: 647Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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04-25-20 15:21 #10996
Posts: 5670Correct me if you think I'm wrong but I believe that Brazil will be the first country to have its sex industry up and running post covid; even before Thailand, Colombia or Mexico.
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04-24-20 04:01 #10995
Posts: 1072Thanks.
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
I love Spain as well, I usually spend at least a month there every year as I have family there.
Hopefully getting back to Brazil soon.
I have plans for SP in May, and Rio in July. We'll see how that goes.
I personally found the transition from spanish to portuguese fairly easy and enjoyable.
They are very similar, it's more of getting accustomed to the pronunciation.
With spanish, IMO, one can easily pronounce a word, seeing it written.
With portuguese, often times I needed a word to be verbalized to me to get it down.
Stay safe!
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04-23-20 00:14 #10994
Posts: 647Opening May 11
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04-20-20 20:59 #10993
Posts: 6439Accepted
Originally Posted by Balboa [View Original Post]
Now, there's no question that speaking the local language enhances the entire overall experience. I know that one reason why Spain, pound for pound and inch for inch, is my favorite country in Europe is because I can speak the language and interact with people there on a whole other level. I wish I could do the same in Brazil, but I can't. I get by with whatever English and Spanish they can understand, whatever Portuguese I can understand, and my smart phone translator. During my last trip to Brazil, I wondered how in the world I ever survived without Google Translate LOL! Anyway, as I think people can see from some of my posts, I still manage to have a rocking good time in Brazil every single time I go there! Monger on my friends!
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04-20-20 18:14 #10992
Posts: 1072Originally Posted by Combo [View Original Post]Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
I really wanted to learn to speak portuguese, but not make it over complicated.
I of course knew it was another Romance language and that a lot of the mechanics would be the same.
Thank goodness!
Anyway, I bought this book, along with a dictionary and verb book of course:
https://www.amazon.com/Everything-Le...rds=everything+learning+brazilian+portuguese&qid=1587402017&sr=8-1.
Did wonders for me!
Studying and listening to the enclosed CD, as well as practice got me up to speed and more so.
Boa sorte!
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04-20-20 18:05 #10991
Posts: 1072Originally Posted by Balboa [View Original Post]Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
That's obviously not you and I spoke out of turn.
Apologies.
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04-20-20 17:25 #10990
Posts: 2041Unless one is planning on visiting Brazil (or Portugal) at least once a year, I don't think investing time in an audio course is a good choice. I think a book like Portuguese in 10 minutes a day can give you just enough to get by or allow you to be somewhat able to make simple conversation and requests. The book is designed as a workbook and has some stickers and flash cards. It can be as interactive as you want. I have a friend who put the stickers around his condo for a few months so he knew how to say common household items. I only use an audio course designed for tourists in my car to sharpen my pronunciation. I myself am never going to learn enough to have extensive conversations in Portuguese unless I live in Brazil (or Portugal).
https://www.amazon.com/PORTUGUESE-mi...keywords=learn+portuguese+barrons&qid=1587399192&sr=8-02.
Like most Latin languages, the letters aren't always pronounced like English. The general rules are T and the are soft when generally followed by I or e. Os at the end are pronounced "oo". You can learn the rules for how to say the odd Rs and Ms, but not absolutely necessary for tourists. There are a few other sounds like ão and ões. Hopefully if one is here, you know already know how to say São Paulo.
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04-20-20 02:05 #10989
Posts: 648Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
Cheers.