Sao Paulo Reports

[Gabbarsing]

Hi guys,

I just got back from my SP trip last week. And yet again I am planning my next one. This time I am planning during December 20th to January 2nd. I am worried if Scandello and / or Casarao will be close or empty during those days? Anyone tried SP during Christmas time for mongering?

Unfortunately I can not shift or change my days. So it will be either I go during Christmas or don't go at all. Please advise.

[Steve 9696]

I posted about my Casarao experience in an earlier post. So What happens if you pay upfront, and there is a disagreement in the room because drunk asses like me don't always make the best decisions at the moment?

BTW I will post about my mulatto garotas threesome, Duplo experience in a scandallo report. Each garota was $600 reais, for the best Illusion of Passion (IOP) lesbians experience meets my Illusion of money (IOM) kkkk.

I found a cutie garota in Casarap late night after a superb visit to scandallo.

We walk to the Casarao Hotel and are standing in the long ass line to get a room. It's 1 am or 2 am there is a waiting system to call your number when a room is ready.

We grab a seat and drink more flirting. We agreed on a price of $400 reais one hour. She offers to receive payment in Pix or credit. She pulls out a small terminal from her purse.

Damn I considered it for a half second then thought if I swipe my card I might not be able to use the card in Prime, Tangar, or Miruna Clinica in the morning. Haha its the only reason I don't swipe thinking about the duplos in the morning. I changed and told her lets do cash, it's better. Our number is called, we are stumbling in the hallway to the rooms.

Off we go to the rooms down a long hallway, downstairs up other stairs, darn another maze of rooms. We reach the room.

In the room, she says to pay upfront. I responded not. For a few minutes, it was a Mexican standoff.

Having been in a similar situation in Tijuanaa Adelitas I offer a compromise. I pull $400 reais, count them out loud, and, together. I ask for her high heels shoe. Place the dinero underneath her high heel shoe on top of the cabinet. She can see the money is there and it's hers when the deed is done.

She agrees great it worked.

This pretty garota drops to her knees for an intense ten minutes of really good BBBJ sloppy deepthroat. She stops mid slurp smiles and says she is too drunk to continue.

She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything!

Oh well, a first for me.

Haha I love this trick with the high heel on the money. She's not running off in one shoe. Clever. I have also done the count it out and place it on the counter move. This seems satisfactory for most girls. Tho I have not had a problem with a handful of pay up front girls this year. As Axel says it varies by country / format.

[Knowledge]

This Medellin Centro rat is a big fan of YankeeFan.

Just got back from an enjoyable week in Sao Paulo. Combined sightseeing with hobbying. As I always say upfront in my FPs, I am a bargain basement hobbyist. I seek the lowest cost venues whenever I travel to hobby. I don't want to drink with the SPs, don't want a massage, don't want to spend the night with them, don't want to have dinner with them. I do want to experience as many and varied a group of SPs as I can in a week, spending 15 to 20 minutes in each session, doing my 3 favorite positions (mish, doggy, CG). I enjoy the girl next door type, for example, those who look like the coeds you'd see on a typical campus, and MILF type, for example young (ish) mothers who you might see waiting outside a school to pick up their kids. I intentionally got an AirBnb within walking distance of Edificio 134 (Rua Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia) as it is the closest one to a reasonable place to stay (Villa Buarque). The others I visited were*Rua dos Andradas 69* and*Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11. I sessioned 11 times, for either 40 or 50 reales a pop, though I was probably being charged the gringo rate. 134 was my favorite. It felt perfectly safe walking over there, at least as late as 8 PM. I must have seen at least 50 SPs spread over the 7 or 8 floors, usually standing on the landing of each floor, or on the steps (there is an elevator to get to the top). Quality was very good, and each time I finished a session, on the way out, I would see one or 2 more I'd like to do (I doubled up twice). The first session, the SP began with a BBBJ, and I was thinking I could keep looking forward to that, but that was the last one, all the others started covered, putting on the cover with their mouth. It is possible you can pay for extras, but my almost*non-existent Portuguese precluded me from doing so. The rooms are very small, here and in 69.

[Turgid]

I've mongered in many places. This rule doesn't apply to every place, location, or WG. Amsterdam brothels? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Dubai? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Bahrain? Payment upfront. High end escorts or porn stars in America or Europe? Payment upfront. No payment upfront? They'll walk right out of your hotel with zero hesitation. Yes, there is a "risk" of a "runner" with payment upfront at your hotel, but the hotel has her passport information so there's no incentive for her to pull that move. And if it's an incall at her place, then that's obviously not going to happen.

Fortunately, on the other hand, there are plenty of places, brothels, and WGs where you can pay after service because it's standard procedure or because of the sheer amount of women. German FKK brothels? Payment afterward. Thailand brothels or thai / asian women in general? Payment afterwards. Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Payment afterwards.

Also, even if you pay afterwards, you could still get bad service. Every monger knows that.

The takeaway is mongering isn't an exact science, and payment afterwards doesn't guarantee good service and is not always an option.

The countries where payment is required upfront are countries where the johns are known to be scammers and will try every scheme not to pay.

[Rocko20]

Monger rule #2: Never pay a FL, SW, or Escort in advance unless you enjoy receiving bad service.

I've mongered in many places. This rule doesn't apply to every place, location, or WG. Amsterdam brothels? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Dubai? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Bahrain? Payment upfront. High end escorts or porn stars in America or Europe? Payment upfront. No payment upfront? They'll walk right out of your hotel with zero hesitation. Yes, there is a "risk" of a "runner" with payment upfront at your hotel, but the hotel has her passport information so there's no incentive for her to pull that move. And if it's an incall at her place, then that's obviously not going to happen.

Fortunately, on the other hand, there are plenty of places, brothels, and WGs where you can pay after service because it's standard procedure or because of the sheer amount of women. German FKK brothels? Payment afterward. Thailand brothels or thai / asian women in general? Payment afterwards. Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Payment afterwards.

Also, even if you pay afterwards, you could still get bad service. Every monger knows that.

The takeaway is mongering isn't an exact science, and payment afterwards doesn't guarantee good service and is not always an option.

[Izl80]

Casarao is indeed a strip club and sex show with the husband and and wife team today around 0430 hrs this Saturday morning.

Next.

Performer wife picked a male audience for a free BBBJ sitting on stage while they covered his head and face with a towel. Later, Husband and a third morena garota got doggy styled while the wife was being eaten out by her.

Did a few garota interviews:

Loira gymnast from pernambuco. Indicated 300 reales for 40 min room / 500 reales for the hour. If Takeout, house fee is 150 reales. 1 hour next door room is 100 reales. 800 reales for a 7 hour per noite in my hotel. She ran-off after a few minutes with her gin and redbull drink as she is in a rush to close a deal at 0200 hrs.

My morena Gaby from Matto Grosso with silicon tits was my chosen girl from 0300-0700 hrs. Payment after with 400 reales cash 1 hour room at 100 reales. Room wait at 30 minutes even with 33 rooms on site. Got in room at 0600 hrs. Interesting to see the tower of ladies bags stocked to the ceiling in cubicles (maybe about 50-100 day-bags or purses.

Will Rinse and repeat here as I can get 3 bangs for the buck compared to Scandallo.

Only thing is I love the sushi and ambience and live music and the ability to whisper sweet nothings in and around the many corners of Scandallo without all the noise. They even have a game room with about a dozen pinball machines and a pool table installed early this year or maybe I missed it last year. Well I have to get back to Scandallo before Formula one week next month. Per The Gerente-Alves they open up one Sunday out of the year for Formula One!!

I love 'them both!! Te Amo Brazil!!

Got to go, they are serving Feijoa in Scandallo in the next hour!

[Tochka]

I agree. I always stuck to "payment after" rule everywhere I mongered but it was very difficult to continue with it in Casarao.

Do you manage to avoid prepayment with all the Casario girls? I am especially talking about 1st session in the club. Takeout and hosting at you place doesn't count.

Most of the Casarao girls insist on pre payment and they refused to go with me when I insisted on payment after the session. I finally relented during my recent trip a month and half ago and prepaid most of the girls at Casarao, which increased the pool of girls to choose from. Luckily all of them delivered good service. I have asked few local men at the club if they prepay and they all said yes. I wonder what the experience of the forum members who visited Casarao. Do you prepay or not at Casarao?

I posted about my Casarao experience in an earlier post. So What happens if you pay upfront, and there is a disagreement in the room because drunk asses like me don't always make the best decisions at the moment?

BTW I will post about my mulatto garotas threesome, Duplo experience in a scandallo report. Each garota was $600 reais, for the best Illusion of Passion (IOP) lesbians experience meets my Illusion of money (IOM) kkkk.

I found a cutie garota in Casarap late night after a superb visit to scandallo.

We walk to the Casarao Hotel and are standing in the long ass line to get a room. It's 1 am or 2 am there is a waiting system to call your number when a room is ready.

We grab a seat and drink more flirting. We agreed on a price of $400 reais one hour. She offers to receive payment in Pix or credit. She pulls out a small terminal from her purse.

Damn I considered it for a half second then thought if I swipe my card I might not be able to use the card in Prime, Tangar, or Miruna Clinica in the morning. Haha its the only reason I don't swipe thinking about the duplos in the morning. I changed and told her lets do cash, it's better. Our number is called, we are stumbling in the hallway to the rooms.

Off we go to the rooms down a long hallway, downstairs up other stairs, darn another maze of rooms. We reach the room.

In the room, she says to pay upfront. I responded not. For a few minutes, it was a Mexican standoff.

Having been in a similar situation in Tijuanaa Adelitas I offer a compromise. I pull $400 reais, count them out loud, and, together. I ask for her high heels shoe. Place the dinero underneath her high heel shoe on top of the cabinet. She can see the money is there and it's hers when the deed is done.

She agrees great it worked.

This pretty garota drops to her knees for an intense ten minutes of really good BBBJ sloppy deepthroat. She stops mid slurp smiles and says she is too drunk to continue.

She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything!

Oh well, a first for me.

[Lalabo]

Monger rule #2: Never pay a FL, SW, or Escort in advance unless you enjoy receiving bad service.

I agree. I always stuck to "payment after" rule everywhere I mongered but it was very difficult to continue with it in Casarao.

Do you manage to avoid prepayment with all the Casario girls? I am especially talking about 1st session in the club. Takeout and hosting at you place doesn't count.

Most of the Casarao girls insist on pre payment and they refused to go with me when I insisted on payment after the session. I finally relented during my recent trip a month and half ago and prepaid most of the girls at Casarao, which increased the pool of girls to choose from. Luckily all of them delivered good service. I have asked few local men at the club if they prepay and they all said yes. I wonder what the experience of the forum members who visited Casarao. Do you prepay or not at Casarao?

[Lalabo]

Has anyone been to Casarao on Mondays or Tuesdays. Is it a totally dead?

I arrived in Sao paulo today, and I'll be here for a month, so I don't want to spend Scandallo money just yet.

I usually enjoy Casarao a lot when I go there. I just have never been this early in the week before.

I have been to Casarao every day of the week. I have never seen a complexly dead day. It picks up very late like midnight or after but always found plenty of girls to choose irrespective of which day of the week I visited. Keep in mind occasionally some days could be slower than others.

[YankeeFan]

Just got back from an enjoyable week in Sao Paulo. Combined sightseeing with hobbying. As I always say upfront in my FPs, I am a bargain basement hobbyist. I seek the lowest cost venues whenever I travel to hobby. I don't want to drink with the SPs, don't want a massage, don't want to spend the night with them, don't want to have dinner with them. I do want to experience as many and varied a group of SPs as I can in a week, spending 15 to 20 minutes in each session, doing my 3 favorite positions (mish, doggy, CG). I enjoy the girl next door type, for example, those who look like the coeds you'd see on a typical campus, and MILF type, for example young (ish) mothers who you might see waiting outside a school to pick up their kids. I intentionally got an AirBnb within walking distance of Edificio 134 (Rua Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia) as it is the closest one to a reasonable place to stay (Villa Buarque). The others I visited were*Rua dos Andradas 69* and*Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11. I sessioned 11 times, for either 40 or 50 reales a pop, though I was probably being charged the gringo rate. 134 was my favorite. It felt perfectly safe walking over there, at least as late as 8 PM. I must have seen at least 50 SPs spread over the 7 or 8 floors, usually standing on the landing of each floor, or on the steps (there is an elevator to get to the top). Quality was very good, and each time I finished a session, on the way out, I would see one or 2 more I'd like to do (I doubled up twice). The first session, the SP began with a BBBJ, and I was thinking I could keep looking forward to that, but that was the last one, all the others started covered, putting on the cover with their mouth. It is possible you can pay for extras, but my almost*non-existent Portuguese precluded me from doing so. The rooms are very small, here and in 69. 11 had larger rooms, but I saw far less SPs the two times I went there. No question, the first thing you feel like doing when you leave is take a shower. Though I didn't encounter wet spots or stains on the sheets, I don't imagine they change them more than once per day. I only choose those who return my smile with a sweet looking smile of their own, and I can say that all the sessions were enjoyable, I never felt the SP didn't want to be there, no matter how they really felt. I had read bad things about 69, that the SP's might rob you, so don't take anything you can't afford to lose. But I can't say that I felt anyone tried to pickpocket me or worse when I was there. The quality was overall a little less than 134, but you still had a good number of highly doable SPs. I never went there after 5, because it seems that it would be quite deserted after the local businesses closed. Anyway, if you enjoy sessions for less than the cost of movie ticket, you won't go wrong at either 134 or 69.

[HiddenEye]

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[Nounce]

...My guess is it's simply a way to make more money...

Thanks fro Alex's report, I have been going to these places exclusively and have enough sample to generalize it a bit.

I had good ones but also ones that I wasn't interested in fucking. Not that the girls are ugly, but they are not my type, or the body look too old. It's the good memory keeps me going back but I don't always get it. That is the sentiment I have, and why I think it is a gamble.

Take what I said as a grain of salt. Consider it as a piece of puzzle. My observation is the girls generally are older. I don't see any that is younger than 20 while 25 and above are common. I have picked 2 older girls and I regretted it both times. I wonder if the age is real. The girls are more refined then the regular clinica girls. The service generally is better on average. BBBJ is not a 100%, kissing is YMMV. Plastic is common. Coincidently, the best session I had was with the youngest, one of the prettier girls and with almost no restrictions on what we both agree on.

Since I said it is a gamble, assume the odds to have an above average session is a generous 50% based my experience. My odds at Scandallo is almost 100%. The clinica girl spends one hour with you. The Scandallo girl spends several hours with you. It makes Scandallo feel like a steal. LOL.

The clinica can have multiple types of room. If you only visit the clinica once, that room you have determine the impression you have of the place. If you happen to be in a big room, you think this clinica is better. If you are in a smaller room, then you think this place is overpriced because the room is the same as lower tier clinica. These are just different pieces of puzzle. The more pieces you have, the better picture you will get.

I am intentionally vague about the detail for my own reason. May share more in the future.

Also, most you can pay by credit card without additional charge but some places you have to give girl cash in the room (Palms, Lotus). Make sure you have 50 with you because the girl may not have change.

I think they also expect you to shower before the girl comes. It may take about 10 minutes for girl to arrive in the room so you really only have about 50 minutes. You can go ahead and take a shower once in the room. The girls wear uniform.

[Axel Heyst]

On the subject of escorts I meant to write that "the only time I use these high end services is on Sundays or holidays when, for one reason or another, I didn't make plans to see someone I already know."

So here is the point I was trying to make:

My advice is forgetabout the escort sites. Concentrate on the clinicas in the afternoon and the boates at night and you will not go wrong. Scandallo, for example, has many Nowak quality Tier 1 girls to choose from and it is a lot more fun to go out and find a girl. The only time I use these high end services is on Sundays or holidays when, for one reason or another, I didn't make plans to see someone I already know. So it is a rare event.

[WonderWhy]

This may have been asked tons of times before, but in SP, for 3 days the best options could be?

1. Scandallo.

2 other boates.

3 Clinicas / Massages.

4 Independent escorts pages like private55, clubmodel, For escorts is it common for these girls to ask for partial advance payment (for example Lusa Nowak was asking for 20% of 2500 Rs which is too much) using an app called PIX. Other girl also ask for it, tifany bittencourt.

I am going to Rio after SP.

First, in Brazil you should never do an advance payment or deposit! All of the above options are good. Some depends on how many times you are good for. Do Clinicas in the afternoon, Scandallo or Casarao late evening. And enjoy!

[Axel Heyst]

4 Independent escorts pages like private55, clubmodel, For escorts is it common for these girls to ask for partial advance payment (for example Lusa Nowak was asking for 20% of 2500 Rs which is too much) using an app called PIX. Other girl also ask for it, tifany bittencourt.

Monger rule #2: Never pay a FL, SW, or Escort in advance unless you enjoy receiving bad service.

Funny; Nowak is now asking 2500 BR? Back maybe a year ago I turned her down when she was asking only 1500 BR on Clubmodel. KKK. My advice is forgetabout the escort sites. Concentrate on the clinicas in the afternoon and the boates at night and you will not go wrong. Scandallo, for example, has many Nowak quality Tier 1 girls to choose from and it is a lot more fun to go out and find a girl. The only time I use the high end escort services is on Sundays or holidays when, for one reason or another, I have did make plans to see someone I already know and like. So it is a rare event.