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  1. #10475
    With guys dropping R$1000 on a girl and a room at a top boate, it's worthwhile for newbies here to know that you can get a knock-out escort who is known for GFE and maybe PSE. She might even include anal for half that.

    A lot of Sao Paulo visitors don't have the time or patience to research escorts on the local Portuguese language guide. There is also no comparison to the optics and "candy store" feeling you get at Scandallo. There's also the thrill of being with a girl who might only work sparingly. You caught the diamond at the right time.

    I'm wondering if guys have had success negotiating lower priced afternoon rendezvous with the Scandallo girls. It sure beats paying the basic love hotel the ridiculous R$200.

  2. #10474

    Best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    That's a very bold statement. I have not been to Globe but the best optics I have seen in mongering is at Oase and Sharks and I am told that the optics at Globe are superior to that at those two clubs. I have never been to Scandallo and have not visited having read that the Scandallo girls go to the clinicas during the day. I have not seen optics at the clinicas to compete with that at Oase and Sharks.
    I have been to all of the clubs that you mention. Scandallos, Globe, Oase, and Sharks. My experience is that the optics at the Zurich clubs were no better than at the German FKKs, making Zurich not worth the time and money for me. In Europe the best value for your money is found in Germany IMHO, and there is no question but that many of the same girls have moved back and forth between Germany and Switzerland too. In fact, I think this is far more common than finding a 9 or 10 from one of the top-tier Brazilian Sao Paulo clubs working in a clinica staffed by mostly 5's and 6's. I suppose it happens, but I don't believe it's as common as the girls shuttling around between Germany, Switzerland and other European countries.

    I mean, I say again. I am a logical and rational man. If I could consistently find the same 9's and 10's at a clinica that I could at a place like a Scandallos, then why wouldn't I go to the clinicas at cut rate prices instead? Because from what I can see with my own eyes and tastes, the girls at the clinicas are like at Chanes 57. Overwhelmingly 5's and 6's! Now when it comes to Zurich, many will say that what sets a place like Globe apart is the quality and consistency in the performance of the girls. OK, well I have received top-notch service from the girls in Germany to my satisfaction, so no need for me to drop the extra coin mongering in high-priced Switzerland. That said, I can honestly say that the sex provided me at Globe was outstanding, and I received the absolute best BBBJ / CIM in my entire life there at Globe in Switzerland. No exaggeration. But here's the kicker. The girl was Brazilian! So, for me that says more about Brazil than it does about Globe LOL! Brazil is number 1 baby!

  3. #10473
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalabo  [View Original Post]
    ..................... Still I think Scandallo beats Globe in terms of lineup strength, quality and optics..................
    Thats a very bold statement. I have not been to Globe but the best optics I have seen in mongering is at Oase and Sharks and I am told that the optics at Globe are superior to that at those two clubs. I have never been to Scandallo and have not visited having read that the Scandallo girls go to the clinicas during the day. I have not seen optics at the clinicas to compete with that at Oase and Sharks.

  4. #10472

    Cafe Photo

    Well if last night was about something new, then Caf Photo was about something well-known. Arrived a bit early around 9 pm Entrance fee was 150 reals. Or, if you agree to pay 100 reals upfront as a consumption fee, then the entrance price is lowered to 120 reals. I planned to eat, drink, and be merry, so I took the latter deal.

    Immediately when you step into this club, you not only see but also feel the difference between one of the more upscale boites versus a club like Chanes 57. That's not meant to be a general swipe at the lower end places. Every establishment has its place in the order of things, with both pros and cons. A pro with a place like Caf Photo is simply that the girls on average are far more attractive than at a lower end club. I mean there were 7's and 8's everywhere I looked! I can't say that I saw a lot of 9's and 10's, but the optics were damn sure better than at Chanes 57! No doubt!

    But then of course, there is the downside, which would be the price of the pussy in a place like Caf Photo! The entrance and consumption fees don't bother me any, but it's the asking price of the girls for sex. When the exchange rate was 3 reals to the dollar, most of the girls were asking as high as 800 reals for an hour, but you could easily talk most down to 600. Now with an exchange rate of 4 reals to the dollar, I found that most of the girls were asking for 1,000 reals per hour, but also that you could easily talk most down to 800 (but not all as you will read later). With the current exchange rates, I'm OK with 800 for an hour in a place like a Caf Photo, but I would never pay that at a Chanes 57 or at any of the clinicas. Sampa offers a huge mongering market, and you have to be prepared to pay different prices depending on which market segment you're operating in. That's just the facts. Accept it, or just don't play at the poshest boites. Complaining about it will accomplish nothing.

    At 9 pm When I arrived, there were only about 20 ladies available. As the night wore on and approached midnight though, I would say that by that time at least 60+ had shown up on a Tuesday night! And like I said, solid 7's and 8's abounded. Early in the evening, I chose to go with a girl from Belo Horizonte named Claudia, who I would rate a 7. She had what I call the "classic" Brasiliera look I was in the mood for. Straight black hair, attractive face, huge natural boobies, narrow hips, and a big bunda! But rather than being caramel-complected, which I like, she was white-skinned. So maybe not 100% classic look but close. Claudia spoke virtually no English but could understand some basic Spanish. Between that and Google Translate, we were just fine. Said she came early with a friend because she didn't like the late-night crowd. Was hoping to do one session and leave. We had a couple of drinks and an appetizer and got along well enough that I decided I wanted to session. Claudia asked for 1,000 for an hour, but quickly came down to 800. Also, she said that although she did not normally do BBBJ / CIM, she would with me because she thought I was a nice guy, and she liked me. Charm and being nice helps. But still didn't get me anal though! No problem (this time)!

    We took the "company car" over to the club-affiliated hotel (don't recall if the name is still The Kinky Hotel or not), which is offered free round trip. The room cost was 200 reals per hour. They will also offer to sell you some condoms too if you need them. Had my own, so did not. After showering it was onto the bed for a decent session. Lots of DFKing and suckling at those big naturals hahaha! True to her word Claudia worked to suck me off, but I just didn't have the patience. Didn't get any the night before, and I wanted to fuck! We went into some 69, and Claudia's cootchie was so clean, tasty, and sweet! In mish, in between lots more DFKing, I told Claudia that Brazilian girls were the absolute numero uno in the world and superior to the gringa. Claudia seemed to get really excited and turned on by my words and was moaning (I have found that girls throughout Latin America really get turned on when I say this to them). Not long after telling her how much better the Brasiliera is, I came inside of Claudia (condom on). Afterwards some nice pillow talk and listening to music followed. We exchanged contact info, got dressed and stuff, and left the room. I took the car back to the club, and Claudia was done for the night. Had made her money, and that was it for her.

    Now, even though I returned to the club (no requirement to pay another entrance fee by the way), I really had not planned to go with another girl. I didn't even have the cash on me to pay for another session at Caf Photo prices. So, decided I wanted at least one more drink and to scope the place out for future possibilities. Well, anytime a horny monger is on the prowl, you just have to realize that you just might see that "someone" who you cannot resist! And I did too! Her name was Julia, and she was a solid 8 on my scale. Kind of petite with long blonde hair (fake but she pulled it off well), really pretty smile, white-skinned, big silicone tits but right for her frame, large false eyelashes, red nail polish, and a plump, round bubble butt! Now that's what you calls a "tute" LOLOLOL! Yes sir! The only thing she was missing was the puffy lips! It took me a minute to talk to her because had to decide if I wanted to spend the money, but decided to go for it and good thing too because she said she only works two nights a week! Probably never would have seen her again.

    Went ahead and pulled the trigger and we got along famously right from the start. Julia spoke no English, but her Spanish was so good that we only needed Google Translate just a handful of times. She told me that she was not too long back from Dubai where she had been working and making a lot of money. Those Arab guys (especially the Saudis) pay well and like the "loiras" like her she said. I asked her why she came back to Brazil, and she said that it was hard working in Dubai. Good money was to be made, and there were other Brazilian girls over there working (did not meet any when I went), but that it was just hard to live there and to communicate. Nobody speaks Portuguese. She decided to come on back to Brazil. And a looker like her is definitely going to make big money anywhere she goes no question! Probably why she only needs to work two days a week. Well, she said she has a job doing some kind of work at a TV station too. Wonder if she will ever get in front of the camera? Then I can say hey I fucked that LOL!

    Anyway, we started working the deal, and when Julia agreed to anal sex, I knew then I was going to have to have her! I had a relatively hard time getting anal my last time in Sampa, and so no way could I pass up packing this pretty little blondie's fudge! The issue was the price. She started at 1,000 reals like the other girls, but then wanted to tack on a 500 reals surcharge for the booty hole too! And I'm thinking that on top of that I have to pay for the room. Had not planned to spend this much tonight! But I got to have this girl's anus! Tried to work a better deal for myself, but Julia wasn't willing to budge much on the price. I ended up going with her and don't regret it, but considering that we went for an hour and half, fucking Julia was like paying for sugar baby pussy on the States or something! I tried to justify it in my mind. I had not spent much the night before, so I could splurge some now. The average guy like me doesn't get to cornhole hot blondes like this in the butt all the time I justified to myself. To hell with the justifications! Let's go! I'll be ashamed of what I paid total in the morning, but for now I need this girl's anal cavity! Hahaha!

    So, we take the car over, but first I have to stop and get some cash from an ATM to cover the expenses. Julia puts my hand on her butt and likes me squeezing on her plump, round fanny as we ride in the car hehehe! We get to the hotel and I pay for the room. This time I buy some condoms since I have only one left. They gave me four for like 10 reals. Off to the room! And Julia immediately has her sumptuous tits out and in my mouth! Then her dress comes off and oh my God what a body! Her ass is even more banging than I thought! So Brazilian plump and round with tan lines just like on her tits too. Julia is in the shower and out, and before I can get in there she's already chowing down on my dick! Yeah, this is going to be a PSE session just like I wanted from this tute! Julia was aggressive on my dick, but in the right kind of way with her good technique. She too had agreed to let me cum in her mouth, but again I was too impatient. We got into lots of DFKing and me groping and sucking on them quality tits. Into 69 and I ate out her asshole! So good! She was making all kinds of sounds and noises. Like in a damn porno movie! I know some guys don't like that, but damn it when I'm having a PSE session, then I want porn starlet behaviors! OK? LOL!

    Julia mounted me reverse cowgirl style so I could enjoy seeing her bouncing that gorgeous round bum of hers up and down against my body whack, whack, whack! Driving my dick up into her "buceta". I admired the view before we went into missionary so that I could pound the daylights out of her! Julia was getting loud and crying out in between DFKing, "Fockee me! Fockee me! Oh yes fockee me"! Loved it and led to the first nut! So, then we relaxed. Talked a bit. We both needed some water LOL! She ordered some and they brought it up. But all I could think about next was getting up into that butt hole of hers! Dick started to get hard again, and Julia helped me along with some skull. She said I really needed to be super hard to get inside of her A-hole. She said she was going to ride me in reverse cowgirl again, then sink her asshole down onto my dick. As we started getting closer to the deed, Julia leaned way over and spread her ass cheeks wide to show me her glorious "brownie". My dick was out of the buceta now. I rubbed the head around against her butt hole and was super excited and hard!

    Julia then started. Trying to sink her anus down onto my dick, but she was just too tight! We were about to run out of time! But no way was I going to abandon ship now! I said let's get another half hour to finish the job. No problem for anybody else as long as she and the hotel were getting paid! I told you guys this was some expensive, sugar baby butt hole right here hahaha! But I had to have it! Had to! Since reverse cowgirl didn't do the trick, Julia laid on her tummy, and I tried to get all the way into her "chunnel" that way. I put some weight onto her ass cheeks and oh man! So plump and tender and round with just the perfect amount of firmness and give and "coloring"! Haha! But still not in! OK, time for The Cane's patented missionary anal technique. Julia is now on her back with legs spread to allow me access to her anus. I'm going in for the finish, and this time it's working! We're getting there, we're getting there! And all the while talking dirty to each other in between DFKing in a jumbled mix of Spanish and Portuguese LOL! I feel Julia's butt hole opening up and swallowing me until finally I'm in! Oh my God she says! Yes, I agree totally! Oh my God so divine! I tell Julia in Spanish how much I love to fuck pretty, blonde, white Brazilian girls in the ass! She immediately responds right back with no hesitation that her little white girl "culito" is for me to have! My Lord have mercy Jesus! I can't take too much more of this is what! Spermed inside of Julia's forbidden anal tract! Was it worth it? Every last rusty real my friends! We only live once! Spent too much this time for an unforgettable experience. Will just fuck less tomorrow hahaha!

    We got dressed. Commented to Julia on how tight her asshole was. She said the problem was that my dick is big ha! Did some more kissing. Squeezing on that plump, round, branca fanny. Exchanged contact info. I caught a taxi home. Believe Julia was done for the night, but not sure. She made her money. And earned every last bit of it! I know that much. PSE all the way! Told her she fucked like a porn star and she as like no, no, no hehehe! No matter, because I was done for the night! Back in Brazil again! Halleluiah!

  5. #10471

    Trip report part-5

    Day-4 (Sunday 9/1):

    Visited Argentinian side of Iguazu falls and had blast. I must visit for any nature lover.

    Returned to Foz do Iguazu that evening. After dinner I contacted Mel. I had another great 2 hour fun time with her and her ass.

    Day-5 (Monday 9/2):

    Returned SP that afternoon and checked into Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera.

    Clinic Abbobora:

    I walked to Abbobora in the evening. They had 15 girls in the lineup. I picked Emily (as for as I remember). She was very good. I did anal for 100 BR extra. Her massage during the remaining time after session was good. She had strong hands. 260 BR + 100 BR for 1 hour.

    I felt little bit under weather maybe because of the getting drenched under Iguazu waterfalls last 2 days. I took it easy and rested that night.

    Day-6 (Tuesday 9/3):

    This was the last day of my trip.

    Clinic Prime:

    I walked to Abbobora that afternoon. They had about 10 girls in lineup. I didn't like anyone so I walked to Prime. They had 8 girls in lineup. I picked a good looking 24 yo 170 cm tall Karen. I did a 1 hour session with anal. 230 BR + 100 BR for 1 HR.

    Scandallo:

    I went to the club at around 6:30 pm. I had only few ours before I had to get to airport. This time the entrance is 150 BR and all consumable.

    There were only few men and 60+ girls present. Large sections of the club was close and with floor to ceiling curtains including main lounge. The area around the restaurant and the area at the back were open. There is an advantage in coming early to this club. You don't have to compete with tons of men for girls. There are enough hotties present so you can pick the one you like at your leisure.

    I spoke to 5-6 girls. 2 of them quoted 1 K. I saw 2 super hot blondes walk in. I immediately put them on my list hoping to take one of them. Both of them reminded me of hot German girls I have seen in shopping centers in Germany. Then I saw this very tall, young, pretty girl with Asian features. She happened to be a 20 yo, 178 cm tall, Japanese mix. I never had Jap or Jap mix so she immediately took the top spot in my list. How often can you meet such tall pretty Jap girl. She didn't speak English but we managed to communicate using app. She passed my interview with flying colors. She quoted 900. We agreed for 800. She does anal for 600. I already had one for the day so I passed.

    Went upstairs. Paid 200 BR for room. Room was decent size and facilities were nice and clean. She was simply amazing. Spectacular body. Hard natural be cups, nice firm ass and super tight pussy. She kept the action natural by ever waiting for my instructions. She lead the action when necessary. Lots of kissing and licking. Her BBBJ skills were great. Lots of deep throating. Fucked her in various positions before finishing in her mouth. If this session is any representation of Scandallo girl's service then I will be visiting SP just for this boate (and clinics). 800 BR + 200 BR for 1 HR.

    My thoughts on Clinics:

    I did 3 session. All of them were good. There seems to be reliable minimum service standard maintained in clinics. That is a a good think for someone like me who travel long way spending quote a bit of money. For that reason I will be visiting clinics during my next visit.

    My thoughts on Boetes:

    I have visited 4 of them. 3 in SP and 1 in Foz do Iguazu. I will avoid Casarao and visit other 3 during my future trip (s).

    Scandallo is by far my favorite.

    In FKK clubs (German, Swiss and Austrian) the girls are naked or wearing lingerie, where as girls in boates are fully clothed. Clothing helps girls cover-up some of the imperfections and helps them present themselves better than if they are naked. I am keep that in mind when you compare Scandallo with clubs like FKK Globe in Zurich. Still I think Scandallo beats Globe in terms of lineup strength, quality and optics.

    Like many mongers I do care about service in addition to optics. That's where FKK Globe beats Scandallo. There is a GFE service guarantee (provided you are clean enough) at Globe whereas Scandallo doesn't. I had sampled only 1 girl so I don't know how reliable are Scandallo girls in providing better than average service. Average service is not enough when they girls are commanding high price. For now FKK Globe wins service category. I may change my opinion once I sample enough girls at Scandallo in my future trip (s).

  6. #10470
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    The problem with this strategy is that it trains the girls to think they can just take your money and give no service.

    On the other hand, if you raise hell like Mr Lalabo, the girl is less likely to be welcome in the club in the future.
    That may work in a clinica, but it is very unlikely to have any effect in a boate, particularly a large boate. The boate employees just don't care about what happens between customers and ladies. Perhaps they would listen to a regular customer but they sure as hell are not going to side with a tourist.

    Honestly, there are not a lot of true "scammers" out there. Its a lot easier for a cynical provider to just go through the motions and give you bad sex than create a scene and argue with the customer.

  7. #10469

    Thanks for the intel

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Whenever I visit Brazil, I always like to mix in something new with the tried and true. That's why I had to try out Chanes 57 Bar and Nightclub in Sampa. Based on this one experience, I would not return to Chanes 57.
    Thanks for trying it out and letting us know.

  8. #10468
    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    In this hobby, bad sessions are inevitable. . Be it in a boate or a clinica or with an escort. I find its best to just chalk up the lost $, walk away and move onto the next hottie.
    The problem with this strategy is that it trains the girls to think they can just take your money and give no service.

    On the other hand, if you raise hell like Mr Lalabo, the girl is less likely to be welcome in the club in the future.

  9. #10467
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I find google translate "conversation mode" to be quite good. Thifany and I used it if we had a complex discussion in London. I don't know how well it would work in a noisy club. I actually also use it to see if I am getting the accent or a word right. If I learn a phrase in Portugus I will say it in Portuguese to the app and see if the English is right. If so I know I am saying it nominally correctly.
    Yeah Google Translate works pretty well in a face-to-face conversation if it isn't too noisy. Wish I could find a way to change it to a man's voice but have not been able to figure that out yet. But what I was referring to is when I receive a voice message in WhatsApp and I need to translate it. Gboard works great for translating text messages, but I have not found anything good for the WhatsApp audio messages yet.

  10. #10466

    Google Translate

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Very recently I have been experimenting with audio to text and have not been very happy. The translations have been a nonsensical mess. If anyone knows of an audio to text app that works well, I for one would be interested in learning about it and how accurate it is.
    I find google translate "conversation mode" to be quite good. Thifany and I used it if we had a complex discussion in London. I don't know how well it would work in a noisy club. I actually also use it to see if I am getting the accent or a word right. If I learn a phrase in Português I will say it in Portuguese to the app and see if the English is right. If so I know I am saying it nominally correctly.

  11. #10465

    Chanes 57

    Whenever I visit Brazil, I always like to mix in something new with the tried and true. That's why I had to try out Chanes 57 Bar and Nightclub in Sampa. I had heard a lot about this place, especially shortly after it opened, but this was my first chance to stop by and have a look see for myself. I didn't expect much really. That had nothing to do with the place per se, but more with the fact that it was on a Monday night, which is typically a week night for line-ups, I don't care where in the world you are. But Monday was where I was willing to put Chanes 57 in the rotation, making sure that I would be saving the proven best for last.

    There was no entrance fee or consumo fee. When you arrive, the girl in reception will give you a slip that has all of the prices for the various types of drinks on it. You write your name on the top of that slip, then you take it and go upstairs to where the bar is. As you order drinks and food throughout the night, the bartender will note on the slip what you consumed over the evening. When you leave, you present the slip to the receptionist downstairs, she totals up your bill, and then you pay.

    I got there around 8 pm on a Monday night, and stayed for about 2 1/2 hours. I would say that there could not have been more than 15 girls on hand tops, with most of them falling in the 5 to 6 range per my standards. Needless to say, since I need at least a 7 out of 10 on my optics scale in order to be enticed to part with my money for a fuck, I did not session with anybody. I did spend a considerable amount of time talking to a girl named "Kris" though. She had kind of an "indio" look to her I thought, and was very nice and patient. We mostly communicated through Google translate on our smart phones. Bought her couple of drinks. She pushed for a third, but I said no. Had several Cuba Libres for myself. Ordered an appetizer which we both shared. And then we parted ways. She asked if I wanted to go to the room, but I said no.

    When it was all said and done, as I said I chose not to session with anybody, but spent about 275 reals for the evening on food and drink, not including my taxi fares to and from the club. Based on this one experience, I would not return to Chanes 57. The overall condition of the bar area was OK, but I cannot comment on the rooms as I did not go with anybody. And even though it was a Monday, I am doubtful that the line-up would be that much better later on in the week. You just get a "sense" of a place you know, and my sense is that Chanes 57 is not where you go to run up on a bunch of hotties. More like mostly 5's and 6's. There was one mulatta there who was a solid 7 on my scale (maybe higher on somebody else's), but that was it in terms of attractive girls as far as I am concerned. Glad I checked it out though, and now I know for myself about Chanes 57. No need to wonder!

    Slow start, but I'm just beginning my friends!

    TC.

  12. #10464
    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    In this hobby, bad sessions are inevitable. Be it in a boate or a clinica or with an escort. I find its best to just chalk up the lost $, walk away and move onto the next hottie. Statistically speaking Brasileiras are probably the best providers in the world, so you just have to move on. And once a session starts to go south its hard to reverse course. If I sense the chemistry is crappy in the room, I usually just leave even though I have paid.
    I couldn't agree more. I see it as a statistical reality and something to plan for, and work around. Based on my aggregate punting experiences in 7 different countries over the past four years, 1 out of 5 new girls I pick is going to be a bad provider. Out of those five there will be 1 or 2 that are mediocre, and probably 1 who is a stellar performer, even at the lowest of prices. I have come to accept that and now, if things get off to a bad start, I don't even bother to finish. A year ago in Bogota, with two different girls, I just cut it short, got up and got dressed due to bad service. The cost was negligible and at those times, it makes sense to go someplace else without making a fuss. No propina for you, chica. There are too putas in that town to settle for a lousy one.

    I do agree with you about Brazileiras in regards to GPS. But, in hindsight I realized that 2 out 5 GPS I contacted on my trip, flaked out on our appointment. That's a common trait of their occupation, anywhere on the globe. Just one more obstacle to be prepared for and plan around. In cities like Sampa you have too many other choices for it to be of any consequence.

  13. #10463
    Quote Originally Posted by HarvestBoi  [View Original Post]
    My understanding is that the boites and the hotels nearby (or next door really) legally need to be separate businesses in Brazil. That's why at scandallo you have to climb up that staircase to reach the hotel lobby. So if you complain about the service to the hotel staff they will say, talk to the boites and visa versa if you complain to the boite. Bad sessions and scams are just a part of the deal in what we do. So will, some won't, so what, next is the best philosophy..
    I don't think its necessarily mandatory that there are 2 separate legal entities but I KNOW it is a strategy that the bigger boates use to avoid problems. There was a period when both Scandalo and Bomboa and Bahamas were all closed by the city. At that time there were not separate legal entities. When they reopened they initiated this "strategy" of having separate legal entities for the bar and the "hotel". So it is a good strategy for them. Now, that said, I don't think its "mandatory", its "strategic". I am not sure that Casaro is following that strategy because its not obvious if the part upstairs is a separate entity, it may be it may not be.

    The clinicas are a different situation, not really worth discussing here haha.

    Separate story. Today, I went to Redway. After my amazing session, I saw a fellow monger waiting in reception. I said "I am sure I saw you somewhere before". The reception said "Probably in Tangara". I laughed and said that Tangara is the center of the monger universe and that everyone is connected by only a few degrees of separation from everyone else via Tangara. We laughed. Then I got into my Uber for the ride home and amazingly the Uber driver turned out to be huge monger, a member of gp-guia and sure enough a client of Tangara.

  14. #10462
    My understanding is that the boites and the hotels nearby (or next door really) legally need to be separate businesses in Brazil. That's why at scandallo you have to climb up that staircase to reach the hotel lobby. So if you complain about the service to the hotel staff they will say, talk to the boites and visa versa if you complain to the boite. Bad sessions and scams are just a part of the deal in what we do. So will, some won't, so what, next is the best philosophy.

    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    I initially thought exactly what you said. For legal reasons, the girls are essentially free lancers. Then I thought more about termas and clinicas where the girls are kind of a part of the brand. So just let's say the legal situation with prostitution in Brazil is complicated.

    You're likely not going to get your money back for bad service in a boate. As you said Rovnak, you can point this out to management and if the woman has a history of such bad service they will likely prevent her from working at the boate.
    .

  15. #10461
    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    I understand your frustration, none of us like to have a bad session, but actually the boate management cannot intervene into any dispute between the service provider and the customer, except perhaps in a case of violence or material theft. The service providers at Casarao and most of the boates are technically free lancers who have no formal relationship with the boate. They are not employees. Casarao does not receive any % of the "program", it makes its money exclusively from admission, bar tabs and room fees. This is partly for legal reasons since prostitution is legal but pandering is not. Yes, they collect the money at the cashier but they are effectively holding it for the provider. So management is never going to intercede in a dispute about "quality of service" at a boate. Its a totally he said she said situation, and its a buyer beware industry.
    I initially thought exactly what you said. For legal reasons, the girls are essentially free lancers. Then I thought more about termas and clinicas where the girls are kind of a part of the brand. So just let's say the legal situation with prostitution in Brazil is complicated.

    You're likely not going to get your money back for bad service in a boate. As you said Rovnak, you can point this out to management and if the woman has a history of such bad service they will likely prevent her from working at the boate.

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