Sao Paulo Reports

[DJ FourMoney]

Assuming you stay in the 'nice' part of town, I think concerns about safety in Brazil are way overblown. Remember there are lots of middle class and wealty Brazilians who wish to be insulated from such nonsense as well. Personally I don't see Sampa as any different than BsAs.

I've been here for the 10 days on my first visit and have never felt uneasy. But I'm living the life of a wealthy man, taking Uber everywhere, going to the established clubs and clinicas, renting an Airbnb in Itami Bibi. I also hired altobomgusto for a couple of days to show me the ropes but am now out on my own. Worth it for me.

Depending on your taste as always, the level of girls looks and service is as high as anywhere I've been.

And, any Christian country will have a severe drop off as the holidays approach. For a mongering and beach vacay, I'd think Thailand might be better?

Here we go again with personal safety.

Sorry dawg but your activities are not exclusive to people with fat wallets. I can afford to hire Altobomgusto and have contacted him before my trip. But I missed my connecting flight so I had to consider other options.

Other forum members have dropped so much knowledge on me that I don't really need to hire anybody and I barely know any Portuguese. I wanted to visit Brazil since 2007, I finally went in 2016. I can't miss what I never experienced so while some forum members lament the increase in the Real over the last decade, there are still bargains to be had that are mainly used by the native population and unlike countries like Japan the locals are willing to share and thensome.

Speaking of the exchange rate when I went it made it very favorable to use Uber, Airbnb or stay in hostels for an extended amount of time.

Maybe I'm an idiot but I walked Sampa at night, late at night. I would notice if anybody was following me. I walked to one of the true hip-hop / rap clubs in Sampa, about 2 mile walk from Pinheiros district which was where I was staying.

I'll never understand the whole personal safety thing.

[WyattEarp]

Colleagues, just how safe is SP?

I'm planning an exploratory trip of the region and I like what I've been reading. But somehow I have this idea that as soon as foreigners land in Brazil, they immediately get robbed and beaten, possibly kidnapped and murdered. Which is not something I enjoy.

This far I've gathered that I want to visit Mexico City for one or two of the parties (if the schedule allows), Guadalajara because it's near CDMX, somewhere in Colombia (*** where) just to see what it's like, and possibly an island or two. Thinking about adding SP to the list as well.

Also, what would you recommend as a beach destination with good girl availability for the few days before and after the New Year? I like to have a sea nearby to meet the New Year.

I've been out of the mongering scene for a few years. Now for a number of reasons I feel the need to pay for companionship. So I need advice please.

I find myself with an unexpectedly approved vacation request for the New Year + Christmas holidays. Basically 2 weeks or so. If I was in Europe and this was 5 years ago, it'd be a no-brainer. Germany and partytreff tour. However, I am in the USA, I am not at all comfortable mongering here (too expensive and generally not that great) so I am thinking about heading South. Either go through a few places, or stay somewhere nice, ideally with a beach, and get a girl or 3 every day.

Here's what I'd like:

- Reasonably priced access to a broad variety of talent (I mention partytreffs because for me the rabbit-style works best, a few sessions about 4 seconds each, with lots of cuddling and touching before and after).

- Pricing per hour, not "per pop".

- Good, GFE-like attitude.

- Easy BBBJ.

Here's what I'm concerned about:

- The talent suddenly going home for the holidays and me being stuck dating my right hand.

- Personal safety.

- I don't like dirty places.

Would you recommend PV? Or what would be a better destination? I'm wide open to suggestions.

Whew, I just worked through that post. There's a lot there. It's probably best to break up posts like this into separate thoughts and countries.

First and foremost, your probability of dying when visiting Brazil goes up every year. That is simply a fact and don't let anyone convince you otherwise.

I don't know if your going to find a partyreff-style scene outside Germany. Hmmm, lots of cuddling and touching before and after four second rabbit-style orgies? Interesting. Not sure how that works exactly. I've done the self-coordinated group thing once in awhile in Brazil. It's called a "festa" in Portuguese sex parlance. This type of action can be fun once in awhile. However, Brazilian girls are very well-trained on safe sex. It seems the action slows down to change the condom every time there is a switch. Not at all like a porn video.

I'm surprised by your attraction to Mexico for mongering, but to each his own. Does stand for PV Puerto Vallarta? I don't think Puerto Vallarta is a great mongering destination. Beach weather can be a bit cool over the holidays very cold current and possibility of a cool front for a few days.

I concur Rio and Thailand would be good beach / mongering options. Rio is expensive over New Years (Reveillon) but everything goes up during the holiday everywhere especially airfares. Rio now is kind of a beach vacation with mongering on the side. Not too long ago, it was a completely integrated tropical fantasy. A Thai beach / mongering vacay can be narrowed down to Pattaya, so-so beach, tons of mongering and Phuket, nice beaches, some mongering. You can integrate the beach and mongering in Thailand. The Dominican Republic might be a good New Years beach destination that doesn't break the bank.

[FRobertson]

And, any Christian country will have a severe drop off as the holidays approach. For a mongering and beach vacay, I'd think Thailand might be better?

Thank you for sharing!

12 hours time difference is going to ruin it for me. And I'd rather explore more accessible areas so that I wouldn't feel stuck on this side of the world.

[HarvestBoi]

Forgot to attach photo.

[HarvestBoi]

Everyone has their own taste, but I would not even rate her as highly as that in terms of looks. Service may be phenomenal, but certainly not above the norm in terms of casarao looks IMO.

One thing I notice about ratings is it depends a lot on background noise. I've been in Sampa for 10 days and the first day at Tangara I couldn't believe the number of 8 or higher garotas there were, but now those 8's are 6's. Case in point, my first Brazilian in Brazil. She had a lovely face too which she wouldn't let me photo.

Coming from sex prison I'the initially rated every girl at scandallos an 8 or higher. After I've been here a few days that scale has slid downwards. Still lots of 9 or higher though.

[HarvestBoi]

Colleagues, just how safe is SP?

I'm planning an exploratory trip of the region and I like what I've been reading. But somehow I have this idea that as soon as foreigners land in Brazil, they immediately get robbed and beaten, possibly kidnapped and murdered. Which is not something I enjoy.

Assuming you stay in the 'nice' part of town, I think concerns about safety in Brazil are way overblown. Remember there are lots of middle class and wealty Brazilians who wish to be insulated from such nonsense as well. Personally I don't see Sampa as any different than BsAs.

I've been here for the 10 days on my first visit and have never felt uneasy. But I'm living the life of a wealthy man, taking Uber everywhere, going to the established clubs and clinicas, renting an Airbnb in Itami Bibi. I also hired altobomgusto for a couple of days to show me the ropes but am now out on my own. Worth it for me.

Depending on your taste as always, the level of girls looks and service is as high as anywhere I've been.

And, any Christian country will have a severe drop off as the holidays approach. For a mongering and beach vacay, I'd think Thailand might be better?

[MongerForSex]

Colleagues, just how safe is SP?

I'm planning an exploratory trip of the region and I like what I've been reading. But somehow I have this idea that as soon as foreigners land in Brazil, they immediately get robbed and beaten, possibly kidnapped and murdered. Which is not something I enjoy.

This far I've gathered that I want to visit Mexico City for one or two of the parties (if the schedule allows), Guadalajara because it's near CDMX, somewhere in Colombia (*** where) just to see what it's like, and possibly an island or two. Thinking about adding SP to the list as well.

Also, what would you recommend as a beach destination with good girl availability for the few days before and after the New Year? I like to have a sea nearby to meet the New Year.

I've been out of the mongering scene for a few years. Now for a number of reasons I feel the need to pay for companionship. So I need advice please..

Sao Paulo is the best destination to monger in Brazil, there are more options. It depends on your budget.

You are into the beach, you better go to Rio de Janeiro. Mongering in Rio de Janeiro is good but the options are limited.

There are good girls and bad girls in every state, GFE attitude, you can find in Sao Paulo as well as in other states. It depends on the girl and how you act around girls.

BBBJ, DFK and anal sex are very common in Brazil, you won't have trouble with that, but better to ask before having sex.

It's very relaxed to monger in Brazil, you can chat with and kiss the girls before having sex. It depends on the type of brothel.

Safety: you have to be careful wherever you go, not only in Brazil. Just avoid empty places.

[Treading Water]

I've read through all the more recent reports and it looks like Tangera is highly recommended but it appears to be about 42 minutes by taxi from GRU. Is there anywhere else someone would recommend that might be nearly as good but easier to hit from the airport? I will have maybe 6 hours Friday evening, I just don't want to cut it super close.

[FRobertson]

Colleagues, just how safe is SP?

I'm planning an exploratory trip of the region and I like what I've been reading. But somehow I have this idea that as soon as foreigners land in Brazil, they immediately get robbed and beaten, possibly kidnapped and murdered. Which is not something I enjoy.

This far I've gathered that I want to visit Mexico City for one or two of the parties (if the schedule allows), Guadalajara because it's near CDMX, somewhere in Colombia (*** where) just to see what it's like, and possibly an island or two. Thinking about adding SP to the list as well.

Also, what would you recommend as a beach destination with good girl availability for the few days before and after the New Year? I like to have a sea nearby to meet the New Year.

I've been out of the mongering scene for a few years. Now for a number of reasons I feel the need to pay for companionship. So I need advice please.

I find myself with an unexpectedly approved vacation request for the New Year + Christmas holidays. Basically 2 weeks or so. If I was in Europe and this was 5 years ago, it'd be a no-brainer. Germany and partytreff tour. However, I am in the USA, I am not at all comfortable mongering here (too expensive and generally not that great) so I am thinking about heading South. Either go through a few places, or stay somewhere nice, ideally with a beach, and get a girl or 3 every day.

Here's what I'd like:

- Reasonably priced access to a broad variety of talent (I mention partytreffs because for me the rabbit-style works best, a few sessions about 4 seconds each, with lots of cuddling and touching before and after).

- Pricing per hour, not "per pop".

- Good, GFE-like attitude.

- Easy BBBJ.

Here's what I'm concerned about:

- The talent suddenly going home for the holidays and me being stuck dating my right hand.

- Personal safety.

- I don't like dirty places.

Would you recommend PV? Or what would be a better destination? I'm wide open to suggestions.

I've been to CDMX, Cancun, Cabos. Cabos seems too expensive. Cancun seems to not have enough talent for my liking (although I could have been doing it wrong). CDMX is good but the city is kinda ugly and somewhat depressing. Plus I prefer warmer places.

I've also been to Buenos Aires, Costa Rica, Panama. All are okay destinations.

Respectfully,

Me.

[Kcrl01]

Quick update Brooklin still is king of the clincas imo but I sampled chanes57 for the first time I didn't check the bar out upstairs but my next trip I will be sure too. I hit scandallo for the first time I guess I expected more talent but it really wasn't more talent than some the clincas. I hit cassaro after that major talent in there as it was a Saturday, I need to check out during the week considering the board says it a lot of talent during the week. Sunday I got started late due to not even leaving Casarao until 7:30 am hit Tangaria have it a 2nd try that place just doesn't do it for me. I went to the Skye bar I came up on a girl IDK if she was a working girl or not but she Gave me a massage card afterwards LOL. Monday I hit kilt only 5 girls in there so finished at Cassaro again. To sum it up SP still is king in my book. But Monday and Sundays are slow like most cities but it's still options to be found.

Casarao is as close as you get to the olde Helpeee Disco in 2018 in Sao Paulo. Whatever you're looking for. You can find it, Scandallos reminds me of a Vegas gold diggers convention. Cafe Photo, the exact same thing. Lots of pomp & fakery.

[Treading Water]

I've read through all the more recent reports and it looks like Tangera is highly recommended but it appears to be about 42 minutes by taxi from GRU. Is there anywhere else someone would recommend that might be nearly as good but easier to hit from the airport? I will have maybe 6 hours Friday evening, I just don't want to cut it super close.

[Sargent 50]

Quick update Brooklin still is king of the clincas imo but I sampled chanes57 for the first time I didn't check the bar out upstairs but my next trip I will be sure too. I hit scandallo for the first time I guess I expected more talent but it really wasn't more talent than some the clincas. I hit cassaro after that major talent in there as it was a Saturday, I need to check out during the week considering the board says it a lot of talent during the week. Sunday I got started late due to not even leaving Casarao until 7:30 am hit Tangaria have it a 2nd try that place just doesn't do it for me. I went to the Skye bar I came up on a girl IDK if she was a working girl or not but she Gave me a massage card afterwards LOL. Monday I hit kilt only 5 girls in there so finished at Cassaro again. To sum it up SP still is king in my book. But Monday and Sundays are slow like most cities but it's still options to be found.

[AltoBomGosto]

Many new girls from Belo Horizonte and Curitiba arrived yesterday. I went there with my American friend and he loved the parade.

Today the place opens at noon and closes at 8 PM.

ABG.

Yesterday again to Tangara, lots of new girls from BH and Curitiba. My friend went with Mariah, a slim blonde and I went with Baby Gibi, a little caucasian, 20 yo, body full of tattoos, very GFE, DFK, and excellent BBBJ.

Very good intercourse on top of me, came once inside of her, second with a nice CIM.

Girls I would recommend: Thaís, Porshe, Mariah, Cacau, Isis, Sol, among others.

ABG.

[Member #4732]

Well, there are several different possibilities but the easiest would be if you posted a picture of a girl that you consider an 8.

If you think that she was a 6 I would love to see your 8.

Its a reasonable request, if we met personally I would show you a bunch of contacts that I have which I consider to be beautiful. But I cannot post here. Some other posters can attest that I do not bullshit on this topic. But in general I don't really care for the 1-10 scale.

I have my own 3 tier scale:

Bottom: girls I would not even have sex with for free. They just do not interest me at all. Others may find them attractive but they just have no appeal to me.

Middle: girls I would do for free but I would not pay.

Top: girls I would pay.

I am very choosy when it comes to paying. Fortunately, in SP there are sufficient quantity to choose from that I find more than enough in the top category. Even with Tinder I apply this scale.

[Ksa Sing]

I spent a few days in SP a couple of weeks ago. I was in the city twice, with a short trip to the beach in the middle of the trip.

I first stayed at the Blue Tree Morumbi for several nights and after return from the beach I stayed at AirBnb in the same area in a nice complex called Max Haus (on Rua Joaquin Guarani, 400 meters or so from Clininca Brooklin). Both places were great in terms of location, price and facilities. This was primarily a personal trip which dictated the location. I rented a car which was good for local transport. Cheap and easy for my travel in the areas I needed to be.

I had a chance to sample five girls:

1. Cancioneiro: I was in a rush to get somewhere and this was just down the street so I stopped by on a Tuesday afternoon. It was quiet and there weren't too many girls and only one was appealing: Sara. 23 year old morena. Attractive with a nice body. Firm and in shape. Good service and for the price (R $150?) a very good deal. The clinica is pretty typical in terms of decor and amenities.

2. Same night. I browsed one of the escort websites. I chose a girl named Yuki or Suki. Corresponded by what's app and agreed are $250 for an hour with promises that the girl that would appear is the same as the one pictured in the ad. Before she arrives I get a message that there is an extra are $50 charge for the taxi ride back. I agree. She arrives and the hotel informs me the extra guest charge is are $120, so the total is now are $420. Oh well. She is escorted up and before I open the door I am wondering what surprise will await me. I answer the knock at the door and not surprisingly the girl at the door is not the one pictured on the website. But, she was a complete knockout. She is tall and slim and really sexy. Basically dressed like catwoman without the mask. I think her name was Fey. Anyway, she was incredibly hot and I enjoyed her, but the service was rather routine. So after that, given the price, I decided to focus on the nearby clinicas.

3. Monday the following week: I visited Brooklin around 6 pm. It was so crowded. Must have been 20 guys. There were still a lot of girls but I was too slow and didn't get what I wanted so I walked over to Kin. They were super friendly, but they don't operate on the same scale as Brooklin. Nevertheless, after a rather modest presentation I chose Natalie. Early 20's, attractive with a very firm, athletic body. Pretty good service and similar in price to Cancioneiro.

4. Tuesday: this was my real score: I visited Brooklin mid-afternoon to avoid the crowds. Ended up with Sofia. What a gem. 23 and cute. Smallish body with a couple of tats. We hit it off immediately. She must have liked my broken Portuguese. Anyway, she was among the best I have ever had. Super sweet, great service. A real gem and an excellent session. R $220.

5. Wed: I checked out Brooklin again but it was crowded. Went over to Espaco Morumbi. Nothing happening there. Actually what I saw there that day was pretty much the worst I've seen.

6. Thurs:4. Since I was leaving that afternoon Brooklin at the open. Sofia was not there so I chose Raquel. Another gem. 29 and cute. Great body and with an aggressive, fuck me hard, service. Another real gem and another excellent session. R $220.

Summary: Brooklin can be very good. (Its not my first time there and overall I find that for the price the value can be incredible).

Having lived in Asia for 20+ years its simply a joy to be in Brazil. The girls are beyond compare. Asian girls are good, but for me, I like a nice firm body which I rarely find here. Many Asian girls are slim but rarely firm; they can be very soft and flabby even when slim; and they are no match for Brazilian breasts and bundas. And the Brazilians are very service oriented.

Looking forward to my next trip in April!

Cheers.