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  1. #17307
    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenEye  [View Original Post]
    Hello there!

    We've just finished the edition and upload of six walking tours in Moema neighborhood, the Clinica Nation. A place you may walk during your next Sao Paulo visit, or a zone that brings good memories to you.

    - Walking to clinica Tangara.

    - Walking to clinica Red.

    - Walking to clinica Prime.

    - Walking to clinica Dos Carinas.

    - Walking to clinica Miruna.

    - Walking to clinica Abbobora.

    Also a first photo story of illusion of passion based on a true story that started in a bar not so many times mentioned on the Sao Paulo forum: Zeus Bar.

    Where? You just need to follow the Walking tour link on the side bars of the forum!

    Note: Videos were recorded in public areas only.
    Nice HiddenEye. What's the URL for your website? I can't the advertisement on the site.

  2. #17306
    Quote Originally Posted by AxelHeyst  [View Original Post]
    OK. So, the Palms was the only high end clinica that I visited more than once during my last trip. KKK. Of my 4 Palm girls, 2 were outstanding and I mean smokin hot, great in bed, and definitely worth the money (400 br to the house / 350 br to the girl) and 2 were not. The problem, as I see it, with all of these high end clinicas is in the selection process; the photoshopped photo lineup shown on a tiny laptop. I don't know why they do it. My guess is it is to keep the girl's identity under wraps as much as possible. Anyway, I had a great time twice at the Palms with boate quality tier 1 girls when the girl I selected turned out to be better looking than her photos. That's 50% of the time I knocked the ball out of the park at the Palms! The other times that I went there and to the other 2 high end clinicas mentioned above, I received friendly, good service, but felt I had overpaid especially compared to what I was getting for around half the money at Abboboro and Prime.

    But I really liked those 2 Palm girls, KKK, and so I will accept the risks involved in the selection process and I will go back for more in December.
    Hey bud, kinda late but need to ask! When you went to the palms, did they show you the exact same pics as they have on their website (faces only) or were you able to see full body pics? I'm picky as hell as well and I'd hate being unhappy when I finally see the girl in person. Think there would've been any way to switch her if you didn't like her? Or even to tell the manager "I can't decide between these 2 girls, can I see them in person first?

    https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-project

  3. #17305

    Clinica Nation Walking Tour

    Hello there!

    We've just finished the edition and upload of six walking tours in Moema neighborhood, the Clinica Nation. A place you may walk during your next Sao Paulo visit, or a zone that brings good memories to you.

    - Walking to clinica Tangara.

    - Walking to clinica Red.

    - Walking to clinica Prime.

    - Walking to clinica Dos Carinas.

    - Walking to clinica Miruna.

    - Walking to clinica Abbobora.

    Also a first photo story of illusion of passion based on a true story that started in a bar not so many times mentioned on the Sao Paulo forum: Zeus Bar.

    Where? You just need to follow the Walking tour link on the side bars of the forum!

    Note: Videos were recorded in public areas only.
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  4. #17304
    Cool, this helps thank you and SP it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I have done both and you can't even compare them. It's completely different leagues. In BA there are no Boates and clinicas. There's even not a great outcall scene imo. I was able to find two beautiful girls on Seeking Arrangements and had an amazing time. But others swear the BA girls on Seeking are stuck up. Active discussion on the Seeking thread on this. But for amazing P4 P SP can't be beat.

  5. #17303
    Quote Originally Posted by AxelHeyst  [View Original Post]
    I am surprised, however, that you don't like Abbaboro. It is one of my Moema favorites. I never had a really bad session there and although all my sessions were not 4th of July, I have had a number of memorable ones at Abboboro. So, I can't think of a better place to go for early afternoon fun at a very reasonable price. I seem to like Abboboro girls. Ha Ha.
    Abbobora seem to work for lot of men. Unfortunately I am not one of them. I guess I am not picking right girls. Also don't like dealing with one of the mamasan's scummy attitude (she only does it for tourists) when you don't pick a girl. Prime and Maruna worked for me much better and their management is very nice whether you pick a girl or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by AxelHeyst  [View Original Post]
    But recently I started checking out a few "upscale" clinicas. I posted about that a few weeks ago or a month ago. Anyway, what I found was that with a little luck and skill in choosing the right girl, it was possible to have great sex with a model quality, Scandallo type girl in the afternoon for 750 BR. Is this a good price? I think it depends on how good one is at spotting winners from photoshopped pics on a small computer screen. I was "lucky" 50% of the time and those sessions were worth every penny.
    The only upscale clinica I tried was Lotus Lounge. Sounds like you have an eye for spotting good ones from all the photoshopped pictures. Good for you. I am not a fan of tablet lineup so I tend to avoid these high-end clinicas. I rather take my chances in places where I can see the girls even tough I don't always pick right ones.

  6. #17302

    Not Similar

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbarsing  [View Original Post]
    Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).
    I have done both and you can't even compare them. It's completely different leagues. In BA there are no Boates and clinicas. There's even not a great outcall scene imo. I was able to find two beautiful girls on Seeking Arrangements and had an amazing time. But others swear the BA girls on Seeking are stuck up. Active discussion on the Seeking thread on this. But for amazing P4 P SP can't be beat.

  7. #17301
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbarsing  [View Original Post]
    Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).
    How is mongering in Manaus, how does it compare to SP?

  8. #17300

    Buenos Aires vs SP

    Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).

  9. #17299
    Quote Originally Posted by Tribute15  [View Original Post]
    Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.

    It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.
    I would counter that 4 x4 usually has 8-15 girls at a given night and once you go 3 times you've seen them all and their moms.

    Casarao is always a different line up. You get girls coming in from scadallo, freelancers and girls just trying to make some extra cash for rent.

    I met a girl in casarao in March, super chill and down to earth and now she's in miami on a trip and we met up and got some birthday sex (her's).

    Casarao is like one of those kinder chocolate egg surprise candy. Its a mix bag but you definitely will find something interesting.

    4 x4 is great but it gets stale after a few trips. It's only so big so not fair to compare.

  10. #17298
    Quote Originally Posted by Tribute15  [View Original Post]
    Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.

    It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.
    This is the beauty of our sport. Every player is entitled to his opinion and is free to pursue his bliss anyway, anywhere he prefers. Preferences begin with the type of girls we like, the kind of sex that turns us on, then the choice of venues available, which cities we prefer to play in, our favorite countries to travel to, and lastly throw in any financial constraints and or individual spending limits and you have it. Everyone has their favorite fill in the blank. All I can say is the more options we have, and the higher the quantity of friendly girls on hand, the better as long as the quality is solid.

  11. #17297

    No way

    Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.

    It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.

    Quote Originally Posted by AxelHeyst  [View Original Post]
    As I am sure you are aware, there are no termas in SP, so a 4 x4 equivalent is not going to be found. But so what? Sp has a 3 boates that are better than any RJ terma if quantity and quality matter. For example, compare 4 x4 with Casarao on any given night around midnight. If both bars where in the same city, and I HAD to choose between one of them, it would be no contest. I would choose Casarao almost every time. And Casarao is my 3rd favorite SP boate. Believe me when I tell you there is nothing in RJ to match the top 2 SP Boates.

  12. #17296
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalabo  [View Original Post]
    I agree with your comments about Casarao being a meet market and most girls being very business like. The thing I like about Casarao is that you can try most of the good ones without breaking the bank. On average half hour sessions cost 250 to 300 reals (+50 for room). You may take them to your hotel for longer sessions based on their performance during the trail run. I rather do half hour sessions in Casarao than spending 330 reals at Abbabora (this clinica rarely worked for me). Unfortunately 4 x4 is not that exciting for me because it rarely had more than few good looking ones who usually are busy. As an occasional short term visitor I rather go where there are plenty to choose from than fight over few.
    Quantity & quality. I think we are in general agreement on this. I do a similar in-house trial run session, at least one, with all my Scandallo & Bomboa girls before I ask them to my hotel for more, more of everything. KKK.

    I am surprised, however, that you don't like Abbaboro. It is one of my Moema favorites. I never had a really bad session there and although all my sessions were not 4th of July, I have had a number of memorable ones at Abboboro. So, I can't think of a better place to go for early afternoon fun at a very reasonable price. I seem to like Abboboro girls. Ha Ha.

    But recently I started checking out a few "upscale" clinicas. I posted about that a few weeks ago or a month ago. Anyway, what I found was that with a little luck and skill in choosing the right girl, it was possible to have great sex with a model quality, Scandallo type girl in the afternoon for 750 BR. Is this a good price? I think it depends on how good one is at spotting winners from photoshopped pics on a small computer screen. I was "lucky" 50% of the time and those sessions were worth every penny. Great girls in bed! Beautiful to look at, and I don't throw that term around very often. So, I think this is another possible venue to consider if you are bored with the Moema clinicas or if you are out to shag a tier 1 in the afternoon. And once you have met a tier 1 in the afternoon and she proved herself to be repeat worthy; it is easy to exchange WhatsApp numbers for future rendezvous.

  13. #17295
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.
    I pick Casarao based on my experience during 10+ visits during my past 2 trips to SP. Casarao consistently had many good looking young girls to choose compared to 4 x4.

    I agree with your comments about Casarao being a meet market and most girls being very business like. The thing I like about Casarao is that you can try most of the good ones without breaking the bank. On average half hour sessions cost 250 to 300 reals (+50 for room). You may take them to your hotel for longer sessions based on their performance during the trail run. I rather do half hour sessions in Casarao than spending 330 reals at Abbabora (this clinica rarely worked for me). Unfortunately 4 x4 is not that exciting for me because it rarely had more than few good looking ones who usually are busy. As an occasional short term visitor I rather go where there are plenty to choose from than fight over few.

  14. #17294

    I will report all in a couple more days

    Be

    Quote Originally Posted by Anaggie  [View Original Post]
    Heaven on Earth. No place like it. Have you been to any clinicas to compare the quality for research purposes?
    .

    OH yes and I am not finished, I will say so far the best 2 BJ's in my life happened in Sao Paulo clinics and the sex? OMG don't tell anyone. Rio has the best scenery. Sao has the girls.

  15. #17293
    Quote Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234  [View Original Post]
    Scandallo is in a class by itself. Not all 10's but I saw nothing under a 7. The band was great also In one night you will see and if you have any game, some of you will meet and have a great time with the most gorgeous girls in your life. You will be amazed. LOL don't tell anyone!

    Be careful that you get a FIRM commitment of what you will pay, for how long and what's included. It is very possible you will pay too much. Alas, as my friend, a manager in Las Vegas says, "how can you put a price on true love? ' he cracks me up.

    Comparisons:

    Tijuana. Hong Kong club in Tijuana I have seen some (but very few) girls of that caliber. And not very often. Although hktj has almost as many girls to choose from. The rooms at Scandallo are much nicer. Ok the VIP rooms are.

    Colombia (mostly Medellin) also has some girls of that caliber at La Isla and some other places and they are less expensive but you need more "game" to outbid / out maneuver other guys to meet them. They are in high demand. So unlike Scandallo, it's not easy or guaranteed if you are looking for top talent, it's there. I was able to use Seeking and local models I met as referrals. Those girls are Scandallo par girls at similar (some even higher) prices. Still not all of them in one place in one night like Scandallo.

    Las Vegas - 3 venues there out rank Scandallo in gaudiness, lighting, decorations and ways to take your money, The girls are Scandallo quality. (nearly half are) They will game you, tease you but there is very little sex in the VIP room. Don't waste your time unless you have thousands to entice them to leave the club without management knowing. (it happens) These girls make $1,000+ / night easily without being able to legally perform sex.

    Off To Bomba.
    Heaven on Earth. No place like it. Have you been to any clinicas to compare the quality for research purposes?

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