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[Frankfurt]

Picture is worth a thousand words, thanks Nordico!

Rovnak you are correct -my itinerary is simple, will be staying close to Moema metro and plan to use metro lines to make trips to (1) clinicas in vicinity of metro stations (2) main touristy sites -that's pretty much it.

Thanks for the help.

Frankfurt.

Portuguese, English, Spanish.

[Member #4732]

Yesterday I travelled on the metro over to Zona Leste to try out a new clinica in Tatuape called Kelly's Massagens. It appeared on Gpguia in mid-October and has been getting good reviews.

How to get there.

I travelled by metro to the Carrao station on the Linha Vermelha (Red line 3). Once you go through the exit barrier at the station, turn left and walk along the walkway over the main road. At the end of the walkway you can descend by either taking the stairs (signposted Platform D) or walking down the ramp. Either route will bring you down into the bus station. Walk through the bus station. There are lots of quiosques selling food snacks and it it a good place to get a cheap meal if hungry. Everything is labelled with the price and the prices all seem the same (I had a cheese / ham sandwich and pao de quijo for 4 reais in total). Once past the bus station, turn right onto Rua Monte Serrat and then at the next junction (Rua Platina), cross over the road and walk 3 blocks until you come to Rua Francisco Marengo. On Marengo turn right and keep walking down. You will pass Espaco Marengo at 210 Rua Francisco Marengo which is worth checking out. It is about a 10 minute walk to reach Rua Euclides Pacheco. As a pointer that you are near, Rua Euclides Pacheco is two blocks after Rua Cantagalo. Turn left onto Rua Euclides Pacheco and Kelly's is number 1932..

Good report. There are some others not too far from the same metro, short uber ride from there is Clinica Analia Franco which is also well reviewed.

[Torgoch]

Yesterday I travelled on the metro over to Zona Leste to try out a new clinica in Tatuape called Kelly's Massagens. It appeared on Gpguia in mid-October and has been getting good reviews.

How to get there.

I travelled by metro to the Carrao station on the Linha Vermelha (Red line 3). Once you go through the exit barrier at the station, turn left and walk along the walkway over the main road. At the end of the walkway you can descend by either taking the stairs (signposted Platform D) or walking down the ramp. Either route will bring you down into the bus station. Walk through the bus station. There are lots of quiosques selling food snacks and it it a good place to get a cheap meal if hungry. Everything is labelled with the price and the prices all seem the same (I had a cheese / ham sandwich and pao de quijo for 4 reais in total). Once past the bus station, turn right onto Rua Monte Serrat and then at the next junction (Rua Platina), cross over the road and walk 3 blocks until you come to Rua Francisco Marengo. On Marengo turn right and keep walking down. You will pass Espaco Marengo at 210 Rua Francisco Marengo which is worth checking out. It is about a 10 minute walk to reach Rua Euclides Pacheco. As a pointer that you are near, Rua Euclides Pacheco is two blocks after Rua Cantagalo. Turn left onto Rua Euclides Pacheco and Kelly's is number 1932.

The Casa.

Walk through the gate and up the stairs on the left and enter the house. The cliniica is OK. It doesn't have the fancy, well decorated interior that some clinicas have (but you're not there for the decor, right? Kelly was super friendly and super talkative. I arrived at 1. 00 and although it opens at 12.00, I was the only client there. The room was ok, functional with shower and bed. No mouthwash facilities so bring your own. The door wasn't locked, my girl put a chair across it to keep it closed!

The girls.

Only one girl was there for the presentation when I arrived but luckily it was the girl I was after from my reading on gpguia, Vivi. Her reviews on gpguia are really positive. 26 years old. Big natural tits with large nipples. Nice big Brazilian butt. Super friendly. Not a stunner, more the girl next door type, but the girl next door with big tits and ass!! Only been in the game a couple of months. Didn't time waste, we had a short shower together. The sex was great. She particularly enjoys de quatro (doggy) which is great as you get a great view of her ass and the feel of it whilst banging. Whilst I was waiting for Vivi to get ready before we started, Kelly showed me photographs of the other girls. Some of them looked pretty good. I has also thought about Karina from the gpguia reviews and she looked good in her photos, pretty face and big butt.

The cost.

Gp guia says 160 reais for 1 hour. I gave her 200 reais, four 50 bills, and she gave me one back so I paid 150. They have a mileage scheme where after 5 sessions the sixth is free. They have no phone system to ring when the hour is up and nobody knocked on the door. I sad I wanted an hour but think I had an hour and 15 or 20 by the time we finished but I wasn't charged extra. If truth be told I only stopped as thought I might get charged extra but I wasn't and the house seems pretty relaxed and friendly.

In summary I would say it was worth a trip over. Make an afternoon of it by visiting all the Clinicas. There are three clinicas, Kellys, Espaco Marengo and Clinica Tatuape, close to the metro and within 10-15 minutes walking distance of the Metro. Both Kelly and Marengo are off the 'gringo track' and are cheaper (Marengo is 150 and hour). I went to Clinica Tatuape (Ruua Villela 1111) in 2015 but didn't session and haven't made a return visit since, There is also Clinica Allure that I also visited in 2015 but it is a longer walk to get to and, for me on the day, turned out to be not worth the effort.

I would recommend that you scope out Kellys, Espaco marengo and Clinica Tatuape that are all located close to metro Carrao.

[Nordico]

I don't know about language options on the machines. I only ever bought the paper tickets from the window when there was no line. Just learn the words for 10, 16, 20. However you want to purchase and be ready with the money.

Portuguese, English, Spanish.

[Member #4732]

Go to the Faria Lima Station and buy the Bilhete Unico. You can put as much money on it as you want. Note that if you're using the paper tickets the CPTM uses a different type of paper ticket and you'll end up buying different tickets for different Metro systems.

I am sure you are correct about transfers but I have used the metro to go from Moema to Morumbi, Vila Mariana, Brooklin, Tatuape, Moooca, Itaquera, Santana, Barra Funda, Republica etc and I never had to buy an extra ticket. I guess I never crossed over onto a CPTM train. I am not disputing that there are people who make such transfers all the time but I wonder if a visiting monger will actually do so given the locus of travel. I guess it depends on his itinerary. All things being equal I suspect the bilhete unica is worth it if he will be using the metro extensively. My usage is sporadic.

[Kcrl02]

Resurrecting the SP metro discussion as I am looking for a metro pass that's targeted for tourists or short term visitors. Unfortunately after bouncing website to website including SPTrans official site http://bilheteunico.sptrans.com.br/ I have not been able to find any concrete info either if such a weekly / tourist pass exists, where to buy it and how to add value etc. Some website refer to Anonimo card but some news article say that it is recently discontinued due to system-wide fraud -which means the only option to get 'Bilhete Unico' is to register officially with SPTrans and provide, photo, some equivalent of Tax ID (forgot the acronym). So for a non resident tourist that's a non starter.

So my question to gents familiar with the SP metro ticketing system:

1. Is there an option besides buying a paper ticket each time I want to travel on metro. I will be staying close to Moema metro Line 5 (lilac color) and hope to fully utilize the metro system as I hate taxis and traffic jams (who doesn't?

Go to the Faria Lima Station and buy the Bilhete Unico. You can put as much money on it as you want. Note that if you're using the paper tickets the CPTM uses a different type of paper ticket and you'll end up buying different tickets for different Metro systems.

[Frankfurt]

Thanks Rovnak-very useful information indeed -thank you. Another gentleman sent me PM with very good info on transportation options so I think I have enough to go on. Appreciate all the help you gentlemen have provided to this first time Brazil traveler!

Frankfurt.

Someone else may know the full story on metro cards. I just googled and found this article, maybe it will help.

http://checkinsaopaulo.com/en/saiba-...-de-sao-paulo/

In my personal experience, I have just bought a bunch of single trip paper tickets, they fold accordion like and I stick them in backpack and I'm cool. In Rio I had bought the plastic rechargeable card which was even more convenient. Sao Paulo has a similar thing call bilhete unico and cartao fidelidade (see article) but I have yet to buy one because I am always in a rush when I go to the metro and you have to purchase them at specific locations instead of just the regular ticket window. And I never find myself near one of the locations that sell them..

[DoMat]

Went to Brooklin and kin today and each had maybe 1 payable girl. Pretty darn weak.

[Member #4732]

Resurrecting the SP metro discussion as I am looking for a metro pass that's targeted for tourists or short term visitors. Unfortunately after bouncing website to website including SPTrans official site http://bilheteunico.sptrans.com.br/ I have not been able to find any concrete info either if such a weekly / tourist pass exists, where to buy it and how to add value etc. Some website refer to Anonimo card but some news article say that it is recently discontinued due to system-wide fraud -which means the only option to get 'Bilhete Unico' is to register officially with SPTrans and provide, photo, some equivalent of Tax ID (forgot the acronym). So for a non resident tourist that's a non starter.

So my question to gents familiar with the SP metro ticketing system:.

Someone else may know the full story on metro cards. I just googled and found this article, maybe it will help.

http://checkinsaopaulo.com/en/saiba-...-de-sao-paulo/

In my personal experience, I have just bought a bunch of single trip paper tickets, they fold accordion like and I stick them in backpack and I'm cool. In Rio I had bought the plastic rechargeable card which was even more convenient. Sao Paulo has a similar thing call bilhete unico and cartao fidelidade (see article) but I have yet to buy one because I am always in a rush when I go to the metro and you have to purchase them at specific locations instead of just the regular ticket window. And I never find myself near one of the locations that sell them.

Paper tickets are not timed. I have used tickets that I purchased months before.

I don't know about language options on the machines. I only ever bought the paper tickets from the window when there was no line. Just learn the words for 10, 16, 20. However you want to purchase and be ready with the money.

[Frankfurt]

Resurrecting the SP metro discussion as I am looking for a metro pass that's targeted for tourists or short term visitors. Unfortunately after bouncing website to website including SPTrans official site http://bilheteunico.sptrans.com.br/ I have not been able to find any concrete info either if such a weekly / tourist pass exists, where to buy it and how to add value etc. Some website refer to Anonimo card but some news article say that it is recently discontinued due to system-wide fraud -which means the only option to get 'Bilhete Unico' is to register officially with SPTrans and provide, photo, some equivalent of Tax ID (forgot the acronym). So for a non resident tourist that's a non starter.

So my question to gents familiar with the SP metro ticketing system:

1. Is there an option besides buying a paper ticket each time I want to travel on metro. I will be staying close to Moema metro Line 5 (lilac color) and hope to fully utilize the metro system as I hate taxis and traffic jams (who doesn't?

2. If buying a single ticket is the only option: Are the tickets timed I. E. Valid only for certain duration of time from the time of purchase? For example can I buy 10-15 tickets in bulk to use over next few days?

3. Do the single ticket vending machines have English language option?

Thanks for the help in advance.

Frankfurt.

FYI, there were recent discussions about where to stay in SP. Moema, vs Jardins vs Centro etc. One of the issues cited was access to the metro subway system which is a valuable alternative taxi / uber particularly during rush hour when traffic comes to a standstill.

After years of delay, the final stations of Linha 5 Lilas are set to open any day now. These final stations Santa Cruz and Chacara Klabin will complete the integration of Linha Lilas into the larger system thereby making transport to and from Moema via metro easy and complete. I have ridden the new trains from Moema to Brooklin and they are very nice, one of the positive aspects of years of delay is that you get the most modern line.

[Torgoch]

Long time reader. First post. I'm flying off from Singapore to So Paulo in one hour. Too bad to hear about Brooklin since I'm staying around the corner at Blue Tree. I'll check it out anyway and report. I haven't heard of Kim before. I'll check it out also. I'll be spending a few days in SP and looking forward to it. Any other less popular places around shopping Morumbi?

I would try it out. Everybody has their own preferences. You may think its great! It has a big line up and I didn't see all the girls, but the ones I did see weren't my type. I have been disappointed the last few years when I've gone, but I am comparing it to my first experience when I was in Sampa for 6 months and I really liked the lineup then and had a hell of a time.

Clinica Kin is on a side street of Joaquin Guarani close to Clinica Brooklin, the address is Travessa Libera Rivelino, 210. There is normally a guy sat on a chair or standing at the top of the side street and you will see a big sign with 210 on it. It has been getting a lot more reviews on gpguia recently.

The other two clinicas near Brooklin that I know of are Cancioneiro (see last post. I would recommend Fernanda) and Espaco Morumbi at Rua Chafic Maluf 101. This is very close to Shopping Morumbi but I've never been to it. Looking on the map Chafik maluf is very close to the Blue Tree Hotel on the other side of the main road.

If you want reasonably priced barbecue than South's Place is near your hotel. It's not top of the range churrasco but I ate as much as I could for an hour and with two sodas it came to 85 reais.

I look forward to your posts and your experiences at these places.

[Member #4732]

Long time reader. First post. I'm flying off from Singapore to So Paulo in one hour. Too bad to hear about Brooklin since I'm staying around the corner at Blue Tree. I'll check it out anyway and report. I haven't heard of Kim before. I'll check it out also. I'll be spending a few days in SP and looking forward to it. Any other less popular places around shopping Morumbi?

It's Clinica Kin, not Kim, its super close to Brooklin. There is also Cancioneiro (see report below). And Espaco Morumbi. But you should venture beyond Brooklin too. Don't sweat the reports about lineups, everyone's taste is different, and the girls are going to vary day to day a bit and particularly on weekends. You will have fun.

[Ksa Sing]

Long time reader. First post. I'm flying off from Singapore to São Paulo in one hour. Too bad to hear about Brooklin since I'm staying around the corner at Blue Tree. I'll check it out anyway and report. I haven't heard of Kim before. I'll check it out also. I'll be spending a few days in SP and looking forward to it. Any other less popular places around shopping Morumbi?

Back in Sao paulo for a week of work and relaxation. So far, I've just revisited some old haunts (Brooklin and Cancioneiro) but plan to visit some less well-frequented places (at least by Gringos) in Zona leste this coming week.

1) Brooklin.

In the past this was my favourite haunt with plenty of busty babes (Rafaella, sadly retired; Nani, now at Maytrella; Fernanda loira, now at Cancioneiro) but now it tends to disappoint me. They had a big turnover of girls a while back, almost complete replacement, and the girls I have kept in contact with haven't said why. If you are interested, many of these girls (Camilla, Kelly, Adriana, Fiorella, Fernanda morena) are now over the road at Kin Center. I checked out Brooklin on Friday but nothing took my fancy. I know that tastes vary and so Brooklin is always worth checking out as they have a big line up. For me, sadly, I may pay this place less attention in future unless the line up improves..

[Torgoch]

Back in Sao paulo for a week of work and relaxation. So far, I've just revisited some old haunts (Brooklin and Cancioneiro) but plan to visit some less well-frequented places (at least by Gringos) in Zona leste this coming week.

1) Brooklin.

In the past this was my favourite haunt with plenty of busty babes (Rafaella, sadly retired; Nani, now at Maytrella; Fernanda loira, now at Cancioneiro) but now it tends to disappoint me. They had a big turnover of girls a while back, almost complete replacement, and the girls I have kept in contact with haven't said why. If you are interested, many of these girls (Camilla, Kelly, Adriana, Fiorella, Fernanda morena) are now over the road at Kin Center. I checked out Brooklin on Friday but nothing took my fancy. I know that tastes vary and so Brooklin is always worth checking out as they have a big line up. For me, sadly, I may pay this place less attention in future unless the line up improves. I will try over the road at Kin next week.

2) Cancioneiro.

This clinica is close to Brooklin and Kin but on the other side of Roque Petroni Junior. It is about 15 minutes walk from Shopping Morumbi and you walk along the main road (Roque Petroni) past the Rivellino sports Centre and South's Place Churrascaria until you come to the lights with the sex shop on the corner (turn right here up Rua Cancioneiro Popular and then second left onto Joaquin Guarani for Brooklin / Kin). Cross over the main road here and walk up Rua Santo Arcadio and take the second left onto Rua Cancioneiro Novo. The clinica is number 88, there is a big 88 sign outside. This is a quiet residential district. I don't recall anybody reporting from here before and I can see why, the quality of the house is not great. My only reason for coming here is to see Fernanda Loira who is one of my favourites. Big bunda, big boobs, big smile. Very pretty. She has put on a couple of pounds but great sex. Cost is 200 reais for an hour. Ask for a room with a proper mattress for comfort.

3) Plans.

Gp guia has mentioned a new place in Tatuape (Kellys) that I will try out next week, along with Espaco morengo which is nearby. I will try to get to see Nani at maytrella if I can. I last saw her in Spain (not for sex) and she has slimmed down and lost a few pounds. I hope that hasn't translated into any reduction in boob size. I will also try to make it over to Tangara as that is getting a lot of good reviews at the moment.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I don't know if you've made your hotel plans but for some reason yesterday and this morning planes have been flying overhead here at Moema Priviledge every few minutes.