Sao Paulo Reports

[Steve 9696]

Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).

I have done both and you can't even compare them. It's completely different leagues. In BA there are no Boates and clinicas. There's even not a great outcall scene imo. I was able to find two beautiful girls on Seeking Arrangements and had an amazing time. But others swear the BA girls on Seeking are stuck up. Active discussion on the Seeking thread on this. But for amazing P4 P SP can't be beat.

[Turgid]

Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).

How is mongering in Manaus, how does it compare to SP?

[Gabbarsing]

Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).

[Bearsi]

Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.

It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.

I would counter that 4 x4 usually has 8-15 girls at a given night and once you go 3 times you've seen them all and their moms.

Casarao is always a different line up. You get girls coming in from scadallo, freelancers and girls just trying to make some extra cash for rent.

I met a girl in casarao in March, super chill and down to earth and now she's in miami on a trip and we met up and got some birthday sex (her's).

Casarao is like one of those kinder chocolate egg surprise candy. Its a mix bag but you definitely will find something interesting.

4 x4 is great but it gets stale after a few trips. It's only so big so not fair to compare.

[Axel Heyst]

Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.

It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.

This is the beauty of our sport. Every player is entitled to his opinion and is free to pursue his bliss anyway, anywhere he prefers. Preferences begin with the type of girls we like, the kind of sex that turns us on, then the choice of venues available, which cities we prefer to play in, our favorite countries to travel to, and lastly throw in any financial constraints and or individual spending limits and you have it. Everyone has their favorite fill in the blank. All I can say is the more options we have, and the higher the quantity of friendly girls on hand, the better as long as the quality is solid.

[Tribute15]

Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.

It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.

As I am sure you are aware, there are no termas in SP, so a 4 x4 equivalent is not going to be found. But so what? Sp has a 3 boates that are better than any RJ terma if quantity and quality matter. For example, compare 4 x4 with Casarao on any given night around midnight. If both bars where in the same city, and I HAD to choose between one of them, it would be no contest. I would choose Casarao almost every time. And Casarao is my 3rd favorite SP boate. Believe me when I tell you there is nothing in RJ to match the top 2 SP Boates.

[Axel Heyst]

I agree with your comments about Casarao being a meet market and most girls being very business like. The thing I like about Casarao is that you can try most of the good ones without breaking the bank. On average half hour sessions cost 250 to 300 reals (+50 for room). You may take them to your hotel for longer sessions based on their performance during the trail run. I rather do half hour sessions in Casarao than spending 330 reals at Abbabora (this clinica rarely worked for me). Unfortunately 4 x4 is not that exciting for me because it rarely had more than few good looking ones who usually are busy. As an occasional short term visitor I rather go where there are plenty to choose from than fight over few.

Quantity & quality. I think we are in general agreement on this. I do a similar in-house trial run session, at least one, with all my Scandallo & Bomboa girls before I ask them to my hotel for more, more of everything. KKK.

I am surprised, however, that you don't like Abbaboro. It is one of my Moema favorites. I never had a really bad session there and although all my sessions were not 4th of July, I have had a number of memorable ones at Abboboro. So, I can't think of a better place to go for early afternoon fun at a very reasonable price. I seem to like Abboboro girls. Ha Ha.

But recently I started checking out a few "upscale" clinicas. I posted about that a few weeks ago or a month ago. Anyway, what I found was that with a little luck and skill in choosing the right girl, it was possible to have great sex with a model quality, Scandallo type girl in the afternoon for 750 BR. Is this a good price? I think it depends on how good one is at spotting winners from photoshopped pics on a small computer screen. I was "lucky" 50% of the time and those sessions were worth every penny. Great girls in bed! Beautiful to look at, and I don't throw that term around very often. So, I think this is another possible venue to consider if you are bored with the Moema clinicas or if you are out to shag a tier 1 in the afternoon. And once you have met a tier 1 in the afternoon and she proved herself to be repeat worthy; it is easy to exchange WhatsApp numbers for future rendezvous.

[Lalabo]

If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.

I pick Casarao based on my experience during 10+ visits during my past 2 trips to SP. Casarao consistently had many good looking young girls to choose compared to 4 x4.

I agree with your comments about Casarao being a meet market and most girls being very business like. The thing I like about Casarao is that you can try most of the good ones without breaking the bank. On average half hour sessions cost 250 to 300 reals (+50 for room). You may take them to your hotel for longer sessions based on their performance during the trail run. I rather do half hour sessions in Casarao than spending 330 reals at Abbabora (this clinica rarely worked for me). Unfortunately 4 x4 is not that exciting for me because it rarely had more than few good looking ones who usually are busy. As an occasional short term visitor I rather go where there are plenty to choose from than fight over few.

[DonCarlos1234]

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Heaven on Earth. No place like it. Have you been to any clinicas to compare the quality for research purposes?

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OH yes and I am not finished, I will say so far the best 2 BJ's in my life happened in Sao Paulo clinics and the sex? OMG don't tell anyone. Rio has the best scenery. Sao has the girls.

[Anaggie]

Scandallo is in a class by itself. Not all 10's but I saw nothing under a 7. The band was great also In one night you will see and if you have any game, some of you will meet and have a great time with the most gorgeous girls in your life. You will be amazed. LOL don't tell anyone!

Be careful that you get a FIRM commitment of what you will pay, for how long and what's included. It is very possible you will pay too much. Alas, as my friend, a manager in Las Vegas says, "how can you put a price on true love? ' he cracks me up.

Comparisons:

Tijuana. Hong Kong club in Tijuana I have seen some (but very few) girls of that caliber. And not very often. Although hktj has almost as many girls to choose from. The rooms at Scandallo are much nicer. Ok the VIP rooms are.

Colombia (mostly Medellin) also has some girls of that caliber at La Isla and some other places and they are less expensive but you need more "game" to outbid / out maneuver other guys to meet them. They are in high demand. So unlike Scandallo, it's not easy or guaranteed if you are looking for top talent, it's there. I was able to use Seeking and local models I met as referrals. Those girls are Scandallo par girls at similar (some even higher) prices. Still not all of them in one place in one night like Scandallo.

Las Vegas - 3 venues there out rank Scandallo in gaudiness, lighting, decorations and ways to take your money, The girls are Scandallo quality. (nearly half are) They will game you, tease you but there is very little sex in the VIP room. Don't waste your time unless you have thousands to entice them to leave the club without management knowing. (it happens) These girls make $1,000+ / night easily without being able to legally perform sex.

Off To Bomba.

Heaven on Earth. No place like it. Have you been to any clinicas to compare the quality for research purposes?

[DonCarlos1234]

Scandallo is in a class by itself. Not all 10's but I saw nothing under a 7. The band was great also In one night you will see and if you have any game, some of you will meet and have a great time with the most gorgeous girls in your life. You will be amazed. LOL don't tell anyone!

Be careful that you get a FIRM commitment of what you will pay, for how long and what's included. It is very possible you will pay too much. Alas, as my friend, a manager in Las Vegas says, "how can you put a price on true love? ' he cracks me up.

Comparisons:

Tijuana. Hong Kong club in Tijuana I have seen some (but very few) girls of that caliber. And not very often. Although hktj has almost as many girls to choose from. The rooms at Scandallo are much nicer. Ok the VIP rooms are.

Colombia (mostly Medellin) also has some girls of that caliber at La Isla and some other places and they are less expensive but you need more "game" to outbid / out maneuver other guys to meet them. They are in high demand. So unlike Scandallo, it's not easy or guaranteed if you are looking for top talent, it's there. I was able to use Seeking and local models I met as referrals. Those girls are Scandallo par girls at similar (some even higher) prices. Still not all of them in one place in one night like Scandallo.

Las Vegas - 3 venues there out rank Scandallo in gaudiness, lighting, decorations and ways to take your money, The girls are Scandallo quality. (nearly half are) They will game you, tease you but there is very little sex in the VIP room. Don't waste your time unless you have thousands to entice them to leave the club without management knowing. (it happens) These girls make $1,000+ / night easily without being able to legally perform sex.

Off To Bomba.

[Axel Heyst]

Me too. I agree. Quatro por Quatro is the easy pick for me over Casarao. I like the environment, atmosphere, and "feel" better at the former. Also, the fact that the girls are walking around in skimpy little bikinis, lingerie, and other very revealing attire allowing you to check them out better adds to it all. I'll take 4 X 4 over Casarao.

I have always liked the "ambience" inside 4 x4. In my initial field report I think I said the vibe felt like a party party. Really great! But there is a big reason why 4 x4 is my 2nd favorite terma in RJ and Solarium is my favorite. I think you guys can figure out what that reason is.

Anyway, yeah Casarao is a fucking meat market. So I ask, what is wrong with a meat market? I like meat markets. KKK. There used to be a great one in BKK called Nataree. Too bad it got shut down for having a few underage girls. Really Dumb!

So, the first time I went to Casarao, I was duly impressed with the cold, urbane, minimalist, interior landscape and number of people. It was raw, and it felt real. I instantly recognized the joint as a meat market with a ton of girls. So, feeling more or less at home, I walked around both levels looking, looking, until I found a pretty, indigenous / mixed race spinner to my liking. I bought her a drink, she spoke some English, we got a little friendly, and then went next door to the ST hotel where she went a little wild on me in bed. The total cost for everything was under 600. I was very satisfied.

So, that's what happens at my 3rd favorite SP Boate. But at my 2 favorite Boates, which we all know are a lot more expensive, there is a lot more of that "hands on" atmosphere, good feeling that you guys mentioned earlier only here it is done on a more upscale level. As a result, when I go to Scandallo or Bomboa, I usually spend 4 or 5 hours there and make an evening out of it including diner and a possible 2nd girl. It is always money well spent.

A. H.

[The Cane]

If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.

Me too. I agree. Quatro por Quatro is the easy pick for me over Casarao. I like the environment, atmosphere, and "feel" better at the former. Also, the fact that the girls are walking around in skimpy little bikinis, lingerie, and other very revealing attire allowing you to check them out better adds to it all. I'll take 4 X 4 over Casarao.

[Axel Heyst]

If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.

4 x 4 is a much smaller club than Casarao. It may seem crowded there, but there is usually a place to sit and invite girls over. So, getting friendly in-club (I know you know what I mean) happens a lot in 4 x 4. Alternatively, finding a seat in Casarao in prime time is a lot harder, so most people just walk around, stand & flirt. Obviously, you can still get friendly with a girl with the two of you standing, but not as friendly as sitting down together with a table in front of you. KKK.

But in my experience, once I take a girl out of Casarao things heat up rapidly. I have tried the ST hotel next door a couple of times, and it is a dump. I don't like it, so I now take my Casauao girls back to my hotel where I have had many great sessions with passionate, GFE kind of girls, whom I later exchanged whatsapp numbers with. The key is that it is much easier to get something going outside of the club with a boate girl than any terma girl. Boate girls are FL's, independent entrepreneurs. They do not work for the club therefore they are usually available to see you whenever you like and they really do want to see you on the outside because an outside date means they don't have to go to the club that night.

[Nounce]

...For example, compare 4 x4 with Casarao on any given night around midnight. If both bars where in the same city, and I HAD to choose between one of them, it would be no contest.....

If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.