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[Member #4587]

I am surprised we have not already met then, perhaps we have without knowing. Anyway, these clinicas I can walk to, one is technically not in Moema but its still walkable easily from Shopping Ibirapruraa.

Enjoy Spa (see above).

Chanes 47.

Mirunas.

Kamna.

Abobora.

Carinas..

You can walk but it is far from few block distance (Red to Enjoy). From those Chanes 57 is a bar. Red (especially), Kamna and Mirunas are far from high end. Prime has quite nice interior. Abbobora has the best lineup. After that it is equal (depends of the day / time) between Enjoy and Prime, then Chanes57. Other places does not worth the visit (my opinion). I am going to spend more time now with independent girls than with clinicas lineup.

[The Cane]

Airbnb can be your friend.

I much prefer the amenities of a nice hotel. Thank you very much!

[Member #4732]

The problem I found with Moema was limited hotel options. Also, it could be quite noisy at night due to being close to an airport. I will try someplace else next time. I did like all the restaurant choices though!

Airbnb can be your friend.

[Member #4732]

That is exactly why people here need to know exact and verified information to spend their time efficiently. Metro is a huge advantage during the peak traffic hours, despite that buses and taxis do have their own lines (not everywhere). Especially on Friday evenings.

Yes, the metro access will be a game changer for Moema IMO. I can then metro to within walking distance of Brooklin, TG, new Redway, and many others including far away places like Butanta, Pompeia, Santana, and Analia Franco that have some great clinicas but are not worth the uber ride. More importantly it will offer a way to return to base if one is out of the neighborhood during rush hour and do not want to sit in traffic.

[Member #4732]

I live in Moema but never heard that there are at least 9 high end clinicas that are few blocks apart from each other. Could you name those and explain what makes them high end? Thanks!

I am surprised we have not already met then, perhaps we have without knowing. Anyway, these clinicas I can walk to, one is technically not in Moema but its still walkable easily from Shopping Ibirapruraa.

Enjoy Spa (see above).

Chanes 47.

Mirunas.

Kamna.

Abobora.

Carinas.

Apamas 45.

Moema Prime.

Clinica Red.

Those are all walking distance on the shopping side of the avenida, Moema dos Indios. I consider these to be "high end", not because they are expensive, they are reasonable, but that they have great reception, excellent facilities and clean girls, most have line ups of about 10 girls, some less, some significantly more.

They are not as pricey as France Bel, The Palms or Lotus Lounge but I think those "elite" places are overpriced particularly as they do not do live presentations.

Not to mention Zeus Bar, Bahamas, and 6 swing clubs, and several trashier prives.

[Member #4587]

Don't get me wrong. I like Moema. I have colleagues who live in Moema. I've visited escorts and clinicas in Moema. In fact, there are dozens and dozens of escorts in the buildings from Jardins to Moema. I couldn't believe how many top escorts were walking distance from my hotels. It's so common (and of course legal), the reception desk people couldn't care less.

You have to realize there are different answers for a visitor depending on his daytime itinerary, is this his first time or twelfth time in SP and his preferences.

P.S.- Someone was talking up a completely different destination on a city forum here on ISG. It is actually a challenging city for mongers. As the conversation developed, you learned he was fluent in the language and has been there dozens of times. How he travels might not work well for a first-time, short-time visitor.

That is exactly why people here need to know exact and verified information to spend their time efficiently. Metro is a huge advantage during the peak traffic hours, despite that buses and taxis do have their own lines (not everywhere). Especially on Friday evenings.

[Member #4587]

I live in Moema and can WALK to no less than 9 clinicas. They are a few blocks apart from each other. And they are high end clinicas.

I live in Moema but never heard that there are at least 9 high end clinicas that are few blocks apart from each other. Could you name those and explain what makes them high end? Thanks!

[WyattEarp]

Don't get me wrong. I like Moema. I have colleagues who live in Moema. I've visited escorts and clinicas in Moema. In fact, there are dozens and dozens of escorts in the buildings from Jardins to Moema. I couldn't believe how many top escorts were walking distance from my hotels. It's so common (and of course legal), the reception desk people couldn't care less.

You have to realize there are different answers for a visitor depending on his daytime itinerary, is this his first time or twelfth time in SP and his preferences.

P.S.- Someone was talking up a completely different destination on a city forum here on ISG. It is actually a challenging city for mongers. As the conversation developed, you learned he was fluent in the language and has been there dozens of times. How he travels might not work well for a first-time, short-time visitor.

[Member #4587]

I don't know when Linha 5 was opened for operation. I've used the Yellow / Green lines from Jardim Paulista (Jardins) to get some places.

Yes, truly the question is where does Linha 5 actually go right now. It doesn't seem to go where I want to go.

The truth is the Sao Paulo system isn't the best for getting around. I've jumped on it for some daytime diversions, but often have to bridge some distance with Uber or a good walk. Uber / taxis of course expose you to rush hour traffic.

Therefore no need to write about things that you do not know.It was opened to operation last year and in May the Moema station was opened for passengers, before that it run until Eucaliptos (Shopping Ibirapuera). If you not aware, CPTM runs now from GRU (need to take a shuttle bus).

[WyattEarp]

Really? Linha 5 runs to where?

I don't know when Linha 5 was opened for operation. I've used the Yellow / Green lines from Jardim Paulista (Jardins) to get some places.

Yes, truly the question is where does Linha 5 actually go right now. It doesn't seem to go where I want to go.

The truth is the Sao Paulo system isn't the best for getting around. I've jumped on it for some daytime diversions, but often have to bridge some distance with Uber or a good walk. Uber / taxis of course expose you to rush hour traffic.

[Member #4732]

Really? Linha 5 runs to where?

Linha 5 more well known as linha lilas does indeed run through Moema. However it is still under construction. The last 4 stations That would connect Linha lilas to Vila Mariana and two lines there have been delayed. Officially they are still supposed to open in August but most likely delay some months more. The line is open and functioning in the direction from Moema to Brooklin, Santo amaro, Morumbi and campo limpo.

[Member #4587]

The subway does not run through Moema.

Really? Linha 5 runs to where?

[The Cane]

Haha everyone has their favorite spots, but Moema has most everything jardins has PLUS clinicas and swing clubs.

The problem I found with Moema was limited hotel options. Also, it could be quite noisy at night due to being close to an airport. I will try someplace else next time. I did like all the restaurant choices though!

[Lefeu]

I do like FKK much more since you can stay there and pick, and no hassle of waiting searching etc. But brazillians have the curves to die for that is quite difficult to find in oase, and ass. And brazillians are willing to go out with you and have more fun then romanians.

I think you can find those curves in the FKKs as well, but I find that the Brazilians girls have that amazing flirty personality that you cannot find anywhere else.

[WyattEarp]

Haha everyone has their favorite spots, but Moema has most everything jardins has PLUS clinicas and swing clubs.

Moema, Jardins and the other areas of Zona Sul you mentioned are all good areas to stay. I think it matters what one is looking to do during the day, where they want to dine, etc. HarvestBoi stated that he prefers boates to clinicas. If he decides that he wants to drop into clinicas every day to check out the various line-ups, he should definitely consider staying in Moema.

Jardins is a dense commercial (Avenida Paulista) and residential area which is great for walking. It's also where most business people and tourists stay as evidenced by the number of hotels, but you won't get a neighborhood feel. Perhaps staying in Moema will feel more authentic and laid-back (for Sao Paulo that is).

HarvestBoi, I would plan your daytime and nighttime civilian activities. Your taking reasonable taxi rides to the boates no matter where you stay.