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  1. #8782

    Espaço RUA VERGUEIRO 170 ; liberdade

    LOCATED AT A GROUND FLOOR OF A BUILDING, entrance from the street.

    It's a nice bar, I just came back from the place, about some 10 girls in-house, vent with LIA, a slim morena, very GFE, excellent DFK, BBBJ, AND CIM.

    FIVE ROOMS FOR FUC*ING. 170 REAIS =ONE HOUR; 120 REAIS 1/2 HOUR.

    AMANDA, THE MANAGER IS VERY FRIENDLY, ALSO VAN, the owner of the place.

    ABG.

  2. #8781
    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    That may be the case with a few hard core escorts that are making a "business' decision, but my original post was intended to demonstrate that this is not the motivation of any of the girls that I have talked to about this in Brazil, and I have talked to a lot of them about it. I originally assumed it was their motivation but without exception they all insist it has nothing to do with attracting men. And to be clear, they are not ashamed of talking about other things they do to attract men, they are very open about all things sex or beauty related, so I can only conclude that they are not fibbing or rationalizing in this case.

    If anything, based on the response of the men that I have talked to, it is not a good business decision unless your naturals are really bad.
    I might've concurred with everything you've said. Women rationalize the decision in different ways, but I think for many there is a feeling of inadequacy. That's why I think most boob jobs overshoot on size. Some women mistakenly think that bigger is better.

    I agree it's probably not a good business decision for every working girl, but if you're an acompanhante advertising on-line year after year perhaps you generate a whole new interest. The woman Yasmin Piovane I noted change her hair color recently.

  3. #8780
    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    I've seen beautiful escorts with nice natural bodies take the plunge. Perhaps their business slows and they want to appeal to a different audience.

    Some of the hottest SP escorts are Twitter exhibitionists.
    That may be the case with a few hard core escorts that are making a "business' decision, but my original post was intended to demonstrate that this is not the motivation of any of the girls that I have talked to about this in Brazil, and I have talked to a lot of them about it. I originally assumed it was their motivation but without exception they all insist it has nothing to do with attracting men. And to be clear, they are not ashamed of talking about other things they do to attract men, they are very open about all things sex or beauty related, so I can only conclude that they are not fibbing or rationalizing in this case.

    If anything, based on the response of the men that I have talked to, it is not a good business decision unless your naturals are really bad.

  4. #8779
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Optics of fake breasts can be great although small nipples on big tits and the nipples being too high on the tit are tells. But its the feel that is the boner killer. I get hard just feeling a good set. If I wanted to feel a bunch of water or silicone ID just get a doll.
    Agree with you 100% here Steve. It's not so much the look that turns me off as it can be the feel. Just too hard like stones in there. The look can be beautiful (as long as still is proportionate to the body), but if the tits are too hard, then that's a turn off to me.

  5. #8778

    Breasts

    I greatly prefer natural breasts as well. I always presume the smart girls know what they have to do to get attention, but perhaps Brasileiras are infected with a cultural bias. It is however not unique to Brazil. Why do small in stature American girls think they can pull off the D size breasts? It obviously looks unnatural. Women that have subtle B breasts retrofitted are smart in the application of breast surgery. So many women seem to think that bigger and bigger is better.

    I've seen beautiful escorts with nice natural bodies take the plunge. Perhaps their business slows and they want to appeal to a different audience.

    Here is a pretty Sao Paulo escort that is an excellent provider who just had the procedure done. She's been in the business two odd years. Yasmin also recently went from blonde to brunette. I don't think she will mind me mentioning her here because it is publicity and I highly recommend her. You only have to go back to early in the year to see her when she was a blonde pre-surgery.

    https://twitter.com/yasminpiovane?lang=en

    https://yasminpiovane.wordpress.com/

    Some of the hottest SP escorts are Twitter exhibitionists.

  6. #8777

    Its About the Feel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I don't mind augmented breasts from an optic point of view. What I dislike about them is that the women never allow me to play with them the same way I do with real ones. If they want to be admired with clothes on I would just tell them to wear padded bras.
    Optics of fake breasts can be great — although small nipples on big tits and the nipples being too high on the tit are tells. But its the feel that is the boner killer. I get hard just feeling a good set. If I wanted to feel a bunch of water or silicone ID just get a doll.

  7. #8776
    Quote Originally Posted by ExecTalent  [View Original Post]
    It is not because how they will look naked, but how they will look in clothes. I have unsuccessfully tried to talk a number of women out of getting them. Women spent a lot of time in clothes and want to look their best. As they get older and they do not turn as many heads (again, in clothes) they think breasts will add to their attractiveness to men, women and themselves. Brazilian women are open enough to admit that they get more upset when men do not check them out than when they do. They do not come home from shopping complaining men were ogling them and that men are pigs, they complain when no one noticed them.

    I would be more interested if someone has found a way to talk them out of getting their breasts augmented. I have tried pretty much everything including mentioning older women I know who have had them removed. Nothing worked. I only delayed the inevitable.
    I don't mind augmented breasts from an optic point of view. What I dislike about them is that the women never allow me to play with them the same way I do with real ones. If they want to be admired with clothes on I would just tell them to wear padded bras.

  8. #8775
    Quote Originally Posted by ExecTalent  [View Original Post]
    It is not because how they will look naked, but how they will look in clothes. I have unsuccessfully tried to talk a number of women out of getting them. Women spent a lot of time in clothes and want to look their best. As they get older and they do not turn as many heads (again, in clothes) they think breasts will add to their attractiveness to men, women and themselves. Brazilian women are open enough to admit that they get more upset when men do not check them out than when they do. They do not come home from shopping complaining men were ogling them and that men are pigs, they complain when no one noticed them.

    I would be more interested if someone has found a way to talk them out of getting their breasts augmented. I have tried pretty much everything including mentioning older women I know who have had them removed. Nothing worked. I only delayed the inevitable.
    You are correct, I forgot to add that detail, its about how they look dressed. It actually makes the situation more disappointing because there are so many ways to improve how they look clothed without having to resort to surgery. I tell them "use a push up bra" but they don't listen. Its all part of this stupid mania in Brazil for "mulherao" that is diving so many magra / falsa magras to be insecure. It drives me nuts to hear these perfect bodied girls saying "I'm too thin, I need to gain weight". I tell them "noooo, these mulheraos remain them forma for 1 year max and then they are gordinhas or worse" . But to no avail.

  9. #8774
    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    OT. I am curious about men's attitudes toward fake breasts.
    It is not because how they will look naked, but how they will look in clothes. I have unsuccessfully tried to talk a number of women out of getting them. Women spent a lot of time in clothes and want to look their best. As they get older and they do not turn as many heads (again, in clothes) they think breasts will add to their attractiveness to men, women and themselves. Brazilian women are open enough to admit that they get more upset when men do not check them out than when they do. They do not come home from shopping complaining men were ogling them and that men are pigs, they complain when no one noticed them.

    I would be more interested if someone has found a way to talk them out of getting their breasts augmented. I have tried pretty much everything including mentioning older women I know who have had them removed. Nothing worked. I only delayed the inevitable.

  10. #8773
    Quote Originally Posted by AltoBomGosto  [View Original Post]
    ESPAO VERGUEIRO, Rua Vergueiro 170. Liberdade.

    New bar runned by Mme Van, the same owner of VW and Tangara, very nice lounge, 05 rooms for fuc*ing, yesterday was a ligerie party, total o 16 garotas, 04 occuoied and 12 free.

    No entrance fee, you pay only what you've ordered, beverages with honest prices.

    170 reais =1 h. ; 130 reias 1/2 h.

    Open from noon till 3:00 AM.

    I went there with my canadian friend.

    ABG.
    Hi ABG,

    Which floor, unit number? It looks like a tower.

    Found it.

    http://espacovergueiro.com.br/

  11. #8772

    New bar in liberdade

    ESPAÇO VERGUEIRO, Rua Vergueiro 170. Liberdade.

    New bar runned by Mme Vaní, the same owner of VW and Tangara, very nice lounge, 05 rooms for fuc*ing, yesterday was a ligerie party, total o 16 garotas, 04 occuoied and 12 free.

    No entrance fee, you pay only what you've ordered, beverages with honest prices.

    170 reais =1 h. ; 130 reias 1/2 h.

    Open from noon till 3:00 AM.

    I went there with my canadian friend.

    ABG.

  12. #8771

    No fake tits please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    Some news. Fefao has a new place callled Moema Prime, same price as Enjoy.

    Clinica Prime. Av Irai 511 - Moema / r $ 180,00 - 60 Min.

    Atendimento de 1 hora: 240,00.

    Atendimento de 30 minutos: 180,00.

    Plano de milhagem 4 x 1.

    Mirunas is now:

    Atendimento de 1 hora: 230,00.

    Atendimento de 30 minutos: 170,00.

    Plano de milhagem 6 x 1.

    Also a refurbished place near metro santa cruz might be worth a look.

    Espao lgis..
    I am completely with you Rovnak. I would much rather have all natural even if smaller. It horrifies me when some girl I like says they are getting them done. No question. Fake breasts are a turn off. Almost a deal killer but not quite. Thank god its not a KO as I am coming to the land of fake breasts this summer!

  13. #8770
    Some news. Fefao has a new place callled Moema Prime, same price as Enjoy.

    Clinica Prime. Av Irai 511 - Moema / r $ 180,00 - 60 Min.

    Atendimento de 1 hora: 240,00.

    Atendimento de 30 minutos: 180,00.

    Plano de milhagem 4 x 1.

    Mirunas is now:

    Atendimento de 1 hora: 230,00.

    Atendimento de 30 minutos: 170,00.

    Plano de milhagem 6 x 1.

    Also a refurbished place near metro santa cruz might be worth a look.

    Espaço lgóis.

    Av Luis gois 820.

    Can't speak to the current quality as I mostly do indies.

    OT. I am curious about men's attitudes toward fake breasts. First, why do you think Brazilians are so anxious to augment their breasts? I used to think, 'naturally, they must thing men like bigger breasts, and that is their motivation". But without exception every Brasileira that I have talked to that was planning to get surgery told me that they don't care what men think, they are doing it for themselves. Now this was usually in reaction to my saying "why do you want bigger breasts, they are wonderful now, they are a nice size and they are soft, why do you want to hard balloons on your chest? I think of all the women I have been with there was only one that thought would be better with a boob job be / see she had saggy post preg breasts. The others are almost all magra or falsa magra types (my preference) who have small natural tits and do not need big tits. In fact they are almost all less attractive with bigger tits. Yet they insist that they want them bigger "for themselves, not to attract more clients or men". I was surprised to hear this at first, but after hearing the same thing from so many of them I have to believe this must be true. I tell them "most of the men I know prefer natural tits, small or large but appropriate for the body", but they don't care what men think, or so they say.

    Am I representing the mans' perspective correctly or are there a lot of guys that like fake boobs?

    Maybe its a prejudice of mine, but most of the time I lose interest in these girls after they get fake boobs, they seem more professional to me. Same thing when I learn a girl has gone to Europe and returned. Its like a red flag that says "likely to be mercenary and mechanical".

  14. #8769

    My Said Paulo Favorites. I'm trying to get a list started

    Clinica Brooklin - www.brooklinmassagem.com.br/.

    Are. Joaquim Guarani, 121 - Brooklin.

    Telefones: (11) 5181-8000/5183-4555.

    Price 200+-.

    CLínica Enjoy Spa.

    Are. Condessa do Pinhal, 279 - Campo Belo.

    (11) 3569-5250 /.

    CLínica Miruna's.

    Avenida Miruna, 644 - Moema.

    Tel. : (11) 5041-9023.

    CHANÉS 57 BAR & CLUB.

    Rua dos Chanés, 57 – Moema –.

    CLÍNICA TANGARÁ.

    Rua Tangará 200.

    Tel; 5071 4737.

    The Palms. Perdizes.

    Rua Dr. Costa Junior 530 - Perdizes.

    Telefones: (11) 3871-1301/3871-1731.

    Preço: are $500.

  15. #8768

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    I was not suggesting you made a mistake, you said you wanted to go where there was the most eye candy. Even on a slow day, Scandalo probably has the most eye candy so I did not try to correct your original agenda. Going to Scandalo on Friday was probably the correct move trying to show your friends the best eye candy available at that time. Going back to Scandalo on Saturday was not a great idea be / see it was pretty much guaranteed to be a subset of the Friday selection.

    With that said, I do think visitors have to adjust their expectations to the day and venue. When you compare the trip unfavorably to your past trip it is best to compare same venue on same day of week. Comparing Scandalo on Saturday in 2018 to Bomboa on Wedneday in 2015 is not a fair comparison, etc. SP is still full of talent, it just moves around with the day and time. Some clinicas are far better than they ever were, some clubs are far worse on slow days but still banging on good days. Cassarao is far better than it was, the higher end clubs have very good days and very slow days. The slow days are slower than they were. A lot of talent has moved to free lance mode and that is hit or miss for short time visitor but a bounty for longer term visits.

    Please don't take this as criticism, your reports were great and hope you had a good time.

    Cheers.
    Thatnks for your comments. I'll be back to So Paulo one of these days, just during mid-week. I'm back in Rio now, and fortunately I know this town pretty well, so I know I'll have a great time.

    Adjusting your expectations based on prevailing conditions is indeed the way to go. A little more pre-planning on my part would have helped.

    Again, thanks for your post.

    Cheers.

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