Sao Paulo Reports

[Balboa]

Agree with all of your post, but I just want to clarify something. The comparison of Rio and SP is not about SP clinicas vs RJ termas. That is a false comparison that crept into this sub because one guy said Brooklin clinica was his favorite place and another guy asked (illogically) if it was better than 4 x 4 (terma). If comparisons are to be done, it should be apples to apples.

I am only being a stickler here be / see otherwise the invalid comparisons become repeated again and again in a forum. As shown by it cropping up in your post, despite several attempts to short circuit it.

Anyway, nit aside, your larger point is correct, both places have more than enough to offer any horny punter more than he can consume.

Ok, however, IMO, there's nothing wrong with explaining the differences and comparing different venues, in different cities or same city.

That's kind of what the ISG about.

And actually part of the comparison between Rio and SP is in fact the Rio Termas vs SP CLnicas.
Explaining how they are different type venues, and prices and hours of operation, type of garotas, etc.

Of course there is much more to it than just those particular venues, however, I don't see it as a false comparison as you say.
It's just a comparison of 2 different type venues, so one can decide what they may prefer.

It's part of the total comparison of the 2 cities.

[AltoBomGosto]

Least Sunday I went to Tangara.

I choose Bella, toung nice looking brunette, DFK, BBBJ CWG, more BBBJ till I CIM. She attends college during the week and only shows up on Sundays.

ABG.

[Member #4732]

As far as the Clinicas in SP vs Termas in Rio.
They're just completely different venues.
We're all different. Some guys will prefer the simple presentation and selection of the various beauties of a nice Clinica, others will enjoy the fun and banter before the sex in a Terma.
Both are great!

Agree with all of your post, but I just want to clarify something. The comparison of Rio and SP is not about SP clinicas vs RJ termas. That is a false comparison that crept into this sub because one guy said Brooklin clinica was his favorite place and another guy asked (illogically) if it was better than 4 x 4 (terma). If comparisons are to be done, it should be apples to apples.

I am only being a stickler here be / see otherwise the invalid comparisons become repeated again and again in a forum. As shown by it cropping up in your post, despite several attempts to short circuit it.

Anyway, nit aside, your larger point is correct, both places have more than enough to offer any horny punter more than he can consume.

[Balboa]

Interesting the debate between SP vs Rio.

I've been to both cities many times, in Rio at the moment.

It's not rocket science that Rio is much more a tourist destination than SP.

If I was recommending which city to visit for a first timer to Brazil, of course it would be Rio.

Duh, LOL. The beaches, bikinis, dance, sex, etc, etc.

Just like all guys' dreams that have never been to Brazil.

For a more experienced traveler SP has a lot offer as well.

Many more regular clubs and restaurants, etc than in Rio, apart from just seeking PFP sex.

As far as the Clinicas in SP vs Termas in Rio.

They're just completely different venues.

We're all different. Some guys will prefer the simple presentation and selection of the various beauties of a nice Clinica, others will enjoy the fun and banter before the sex in a Terma.

Both are great!

It's individual preference.

SP for sure has a better upscale night time club scene.

Scandalo and clubs like it in SP are in a different league, vs Barbarelas in Rio.

I enjoy the Centro scene in Rio much more though than in SP. The many American Bars and the small prives, as well as the unique VM are fun to search for diamonds.

Both great places to visit, neither better than the other, just different, depending on one's agenda and taste.

[Member #4732]

I'm surprised that someone thinks clinica managements ensure better service than say a 4 x4..

I did not specifically compare clinica management to 4 x 4. I said the clinical management in SP is night and day compared to putaria management in Rio. And I stand by that. The clinicas in SP are clean, well run, and they invest in infrastructure. They offer poster discounts and some offer frequent visitor cards with half price bonus after so many visits. When it comes to ensuring better service, I refer to the fact that the higher end places in SP the management actively solicit customer satisfaction feedback and pay attention to what regular customers say. In SP you find that the regular clinica visitors are treated like club members. They lounge in the reception areas which are full of couches, have drinks, chat and treat it like a clubhouse. You do not see that in the Rio scene which is more like fast food service. I am pretty confident that this attention to detail and customer focus translates into higher customer satisfaction. Poorly reviewed girls are asked to leave. In my experience in Rio, I never saw this kind of situation. I know girls that work in Rio and in SP. The stories I hear from them regarding the different management styles are very telling. I do not mean to say that SP "ensures" better service each and every time, I am talking averages.

On the subject of escorts. It seems that the number of free lancers is down from what I saw from 2008-11 in SP. Or they are no longer using the primary sites to list themselves. Maybe some of them are using tumblr, FB, twitter, or tinder. But its hard to find them aggregated. In general I trust those with amateur photos far more than the pro photos. You can find review after review of the escorts on the BR forum, but unless you have the same tastes as the writers, you may not have the same experience. IMO they are the last option after clinicas, prives and boates.

The boates are discussed here. Not much can be said about them other than their addresses, and fees. They are pretty steady. If people go they should report the number of girls working. This is more interesting and useful imo than just relating the encounter be / t yourself and 1 girl. It would be good to know how the various clubs are doing in terms of girls as a higher number usually means at least a few for each taste. I am recently back in SP so I will gradually get a feel. So far went to Bomboa between Christmas and new year and it was so dead they let us look and leave. But that week is not representative. Also went to Casarao just before Christmas and it was packed. Have not yet been back to Scandalo, Ilha the Fantasia, Connection, Photo or Liberal Club.

[WyattEarp]

As someone who never has enough time to spend in both Rio and SP on a trip down to Brazil, I appreciate the healthy debate as long as it doesn't get personal. I think both destinations are incredible for mongering. I'm kind of partial to Rio because I have had incredible experiences at the termas particularly 4 X4, but of course you pay a premium. I'm surprised that someone thinks clinica managements ensure better service than say a 4 x4. On the flip side, I'm partial to the escorts in SP who have more revealing photos, extensive positive reviews and very liberal offerings. Sometimes they can cost as much as a session at a Rio termas, but many are solid 8's with some knocking on the 9+ door. Clinicas are great for quantity and a threesome is a good start to get value.

Let's face it though Rio is a sultry tourist destination. One of the greatest tourist destinations in the world in fact. I have asked termas girls back to my Copacabana apartment and had an amazing time with them in bed, on the beach and at the cafes on their time off. If you can find a couple enjoyable sexual encounters and possibly relationships, the Rio experience will haunt you forever.

It's obvious AltoBomGusto is running a tour business and does a good job of promoting the SP clinica scene. No problem. As long as there have been international mongering forums, there have have been tour guides for guys who like a translator, some direction, etc.

I do wish there was more discussions about SP escorts and boates here, but I understand a lot of guys like the clinica line-ups. There is far less risk that a provider is going to totally flake on you. Escorts and boate girls outside the boate can flake. I do recall a few months back I had a hard time posting about SP escorts. The moderator kept clipping my wings for posting details that ABG and others post all the time. I personally think the Sao Paulo forum would benefit with more discussions beyond clinicas.

[Member #4732]

Sao Paulo is really easy to get around now with Uber, seriously. And it's not very expensive outside of peak / surge pricing, especially with USD still above BRL 3,00 (for as long as that lasts).

Agree, but what's the deal though with the fare estimates in Sao Paulo routinely being well below the eventual fare. I have noticed this enough to see a strong pattern which I did not see in many many Uber trips in Rio. In Rio the fare estimates were very accurate. In SP, I see a fare estimate of 13 but then a final fare of 20 for example, and this is without traffic or re-navigation, as I avoid high traffic times as a rule. I have seen this enough, basically every trip, to hypothesize that there must be some SP specific tariffs that are not factored into the estimate. Its quite aggravating. What do you think, does that correlate with your experience in both places?

OT (not directed at Cartman) - another logistic in SP's favor, is that in my experience, while SP is larger than Rio, counterintuitively its actually easier to hook up with girls after hours and off days than in Rio. This is because SP is circular, without geographic barriers, while Rio is a shaped like a big amoeba with mountains separating the arms leading to huge distances on the ground to go from point A to be, with major choke points. Most of the GPS in Rio live in the north or west, while visitors live in the south at opposite ends of the amoeba. Arranging home visits is a real pain. In SP, if you stay in any of the areas within the say Pinheiros to Moema radius, you will be within striking distance of many GPS. For guys that visit the night spots, almost all SP night spots have a "saida" option to take girl home, whereas no termas have this. And for punters that like to do call in or call out with free lancers, most of them live in Jardins or Moema.

[AltoBomGosto]

Yesteday I went to my favorite place, very well received by Susan, the new manager, went with Jack, a liliputian mulatinha, very GFE.

DFK, CWG, BBBJ, two pops, one CWG second CIM. Fantastic blow job, she swallowed all!.

Today Tangara will be open from noom till 8 PM.

ABG.

[Troyster]

Sao Paulo is really easy to get around now with Uber, seriously. And it's not very expensive outside of peak / surge pricing, especially with USD still above BRL 3,00 (for as long as that lasts).

Amen. I would rather navigate Sampa than Rio any day. And Uber has been awesome there. So inexpensive. Yes, São Paulo is huge, but let's be honest, on a visit you will likely only need to navigate 5% of that place. If you are smart about where you stay it is a very enjoyable city.

[Cons68]

I may be mistaken for someone who dislikes Sao Paulo. That is definitely not so. I have been there twice and have reported my pleasant encounters here. From my experience SP is better mongering than most other cities on the planet. However, I call out bs when I see it. Anyone who says that Sao Paulo is better mongering than Rio is outright disingenuous. That being said whenever I visit SP again I will make it a point to visit Brooklin. Won't drop it if its hot.

To make this statement you should know not just Sao Paulo (that you know from two visits) but also be familiar enough with "most other cities on the plane".

You see the problem?

[Sargent 50]

I'm going to check out SP and Brooklyn is a must apparently LOL. And make a decision on which city I prefer to "monger".

[Turgid]

Then you re correct you are not an expert and you do not know what you are talking about. OK, so the veil is lifted. You are nothing but another rude troll making snarky comments.

Didn't mean to hurt you. Just making candid statement on which city is better mongering. No emotion on my part as I hobby only and do not rely on charging newbies to take them around an easily navigable city. After all there's uber.

[Eric Cartman]

As an American with a mere 8 visits to Brazil under his belt I can tell you that you are correct about another thing: Sao Paulo is big and intimidating. If it is your first visit to Brazil I would recommend Rio for a multitude of reasons. In Rio you always have your bearings and there are lots of non-hobby tourist attractions and you can spend your time at the beach checking out the gatinhas while sipping a agua de coco or caipirinhas.

However, If you find yourself going to Brazil for business or you have to be in Sao Paulo for any reason I have found that the clinica Brooklin has the best value that I have ever seen. That is, Brooklin has the best combination of good looking girls with the best prices that I have ever seen. I realize that it is all hot or miss but I think I have been to enough places to say that Brooklin is a great deal.

Sao Paulo is really easy to get around now with Uber, seriously. And it's not very expensive outside of peak / surge pricing, especially with USD still above BRL 3,00 (for as long as that lasts).

[HungryStud101]

I may be mistaken for someone who dislikes Sao Paulo. That is definitely not so. I have been there twice and have reported my pleasant encounters here. From my experience SP is better mongering than most other cities on the planet. However, I call out bs when I see it. Anyone who says that Sao Paulo is better mongering than Rio is outright disingenuous. That being said whenever I visit SP again I will make it a point to visit Brooklin. Won't drop it if its hot.

Then you re correct you are not an expert and you do not know what you are talking about. OK, so the veil is lifted. You are nothing but another rude troll making snarky comments.

[Member #4732]

I may be mistaken for someone who dislikes Sao Paulo. That is definitely not so. I have been there twice and have reported my pleasant encounters here. From my experience SP is better mongering than most other cities on the planet. However, I call out bs when I see it. Anyone who says that Sao Paulo is better mongering than Rio is outright disingenuous. That being said whenever I visit SP again I will make it a point to visit Brooklin. Won't drop it if its hot.

You are an odd bird. You alternate be / t belligerent posts and diplomatic ones. In this case you oscillate within a single post. Your post would have been fine if you learned to self edit a bit and stop when you are doing well, after the first few sentences. You admit to having visited SP just twice, yet you insist that you have the expertise to make the definitive judgment call. Though you are admittedly, "not an expert". You say everyone is allowed to form their own opinion, yet you feel justified in calling others "disingenuous" for expressing a contrary opinion.

What reason would I, or anyone else have to be disingenuous about such a silly thing as whether SP is better than Rio when it comes to putaria? I have laid out in great detail the pros and cons of each place. For those that prefer the SP "pros" and cons over the Rio pros and cons, the answer is self evident without any disingenuousness needed.