Sao Paulo Reports

[LAHenry]

Among the Clinicas I have seen in this forum, I am considering the following for my 5 Day trip in Sept: Prime, Abbobora, Palms, Ora Spa, Tag Mahal, Tangara.

My type is thin-average, young (19-27), 5'3-5'7, and facially pretty. I am not into the big butt or porno look (heavy, botox lips, goth tattoo look), if this helps.

Out of these Clinica choices above, are there some you would strongly not recommend or vice versa?

Thanks, will report on my journey and experience post Sept. I do plan to go to Scandello, and I'm considering other Boates too as I have read that Scandello prices have shot up (and just good to have a choices and see for yourself).

[ShooBree]

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[LAHenry]

P.S. The girls don't care if a customer pays them in cash out of his pocket in the room after sex or the customer's credit card is charged at the front desk for the girl's service fee by the Scandallo hotel reception which then hands the cash to the girl before the two of you go to your room.

Thanks for the info. Based on this and other reports, it seems the girls will accept being paid after the service in the room, without insisting on being paid up front.

Is the standard service typically single pop in the hour? Is BBBJ & DATY included in the standard service?

[The Critic]

500 yesterday.

Whew!! Good!! Thanks for the update!

[Anaggie]

Has the cover (entrance fee) increased to R700 or was that a special "entertainment / show event" fee charge or just a typo on your part? Can anyone confirm the regular after 7 PM Entry Fee?

Sorry. Got confused. I haven't been to Dcandello at night since April and forgot what the cover was.

[Steve 9696]

Went to Scandello on a Monday afternoon around 2 pm as I had to check out of the hotel and my flight was at 10:30 PM to come back home.

I took my suitcase and my backpack with me to Scandello. Before entry they thoroughly check your bags. Entry was 300 all consumable, and they have a space to store your luggage. It is very secure and you can leave all your valuables with them. They even gave me a Brazilian charging plug my iPhone cable so I could charge it inside the club.

Upon entry the restaurant, small patio and the bar is open. Everything else is closed. There were about 15 to 20 girls walking around and they ranged from 6. 5-8. 5.

I was the only client at that time, so all the girls came and sat where I was on the patio so that I could get a good look at them. I ended up buying a bottle of gin since I was going to be there for at least six hours and found a 22 year old spinner to join me for drinks. Approximately an hour later, a group of locals came in and and they occupied a bunch girls as they bought a bunch of bottles.

Took her up to the room for the first round and she did a pretty good job. Since I had spent the Weekend with another girl from Scandello, I was able to last a longer time, and she had the stamina to keep going till I finally came. Room cost was 260. Her service was BBBJ and CFS with no anal.

I went back downstairs and we got something to eat while I talked with the ISG brother who met up with me in SP all weekend.

Went out for round two with the same girl approx 1. 5 hrs later and it took even longer for me to come. She kept up and took it like a champ, till I finally came. We headed back downstairs and we finished off the bottle, bid my friend goodbye and headed for the airport.

Downstairs, I paid the bill, grabbed my bags, change my clothes in the downstairs bathroom and got in my Uber to the airport slightly drunk and completely spent.

The girl told me that they have three shifts 1-8 pm, 6-2 pm and 8-5 am or something similar (I don't remember the exact hours). Usually girls come in at the start of the shift. If you want to avoid the 700 cover, best time to come in would be around 530 to 630. This way you would see the girls from the first shift and you'll get to see the girls coming in for the second shift and maybe even the third shift if you stay long enough.

I left for the airport at 815 pm, checked in and through immigration in approximately 20 minutes. Since I have status with AA and flying business class, this was easy. I don't know how long it would take if you didn't have status or flying in economy.

Scandello turned out to be a fun afternoon!!

Love how you roll man. Two pops at the best club in the world before your flight. I am the same way. Can never squeeze in enough hotties. Tired? Spent? Fucked out? Yeah but always room for one more experience! Bring it on!

[Houston Player]

Has the cover (entrance fee) increased to R700 or was that a special "entertainment / show event" fee charge or just a typo on your part? Can anyone confirm the regular after 7 PM Entry Fee?

500 yesterday.

[The Critic]

The girl told me that they have three shifts 1-8 pm, 6-2 pm and 8-5 am or something similar (I don't remember the exact hours). Usually girls come in at the start of the shift. If you want to avoid the 700 cover, best time to come in would be around 530 to 630. This way you would see the girls from the first shift and you'll get to see the girls coming in for the second shift and maybe even the third shift if you stay long enough.

Has the cover (entrance fee) increased to R700 or was that a special "entertainment / show event" fee charge or just a typo on your part? Can anyone confirm the regular after 7 PM Entry Fee?

[Anaggie]

Went to Scandello on a Monday afternoon around 2 pm as I had to check out of the hotel and my flight was at 10:30 PM to come back home.

I took my suitcase and my backpack with me to Scandello. Before entry they thoroughly check your bags. Entry was 300 all consumable, and they have a space to store your luggage. It is very secure and you can leave all your valuables with them. They even gave me a Brazilian charging plug my iPhone cable so I could charge it inside the club.

Upon entry the restaurant, small patio and the bar is open. Everything else is closed. There were about 15 to 20 girls walking around and they ranged from 6. 5-8. 5.

I was the only client at that time, so all the girls came and sat where I was on the patio so that I could get a good look at them. I ended up buying a bottle of gin since I was going to be there for at least six hours and found a 22 year old spinner to join me for drinks. Approximately an hour later, a group of locals came in and and they occupied a bunch girls as they bought a bunch of bottles.

Took her up to the room for the first round and she did a pretty good job. Since I had spent the Weekend with another girl from Scandello, I was able to last a longer time, and she had the stamina to keep going till I finally came. Room cost was 260. Her service was BBBJ and CFS with no anal.

I went back downstairs and we got something to eat while I talked with the ISG brother who met up with me in SP all weekend.

Went out for round two with the same girl approx 1. 5 hrs later and it took even longer for me to come. She kept up and took it like a champ, till I finally came. We headed back downstairs and we finished off the bottle, bid my friend goodbye and headed for the airport.

Downstairs, I paid the bill, grabbed my bags, change my clothes in the downstairs bathroom and got in my Uber to the airport slightly drunk and completely spent.

The girl told me that they have three shifts 1-8 pm, 6-2 pm and 8-5 am or something similar (I don't remember the exact hours). Usually girls come in at the start of the shift. If you want to avoid the 700 cover, best time to come in would be around 530 to 630. This way you would see the girls from the first shift and you'll get to see the girls coming in for the second shift and maybe even the third shift if you stay long enough.

I left for the airport at 815 pm, checked in and through immigration in approximately 20 minutes. Since I have status with AA and flying business class, this was easy. I don't know how long it would take if you didn't have status or flying in economy.

Scandello turned out to be a fun afternoon!!

[DonCarlos1234]

I agree with you about the girls and how they make their money. I was referring to Scandallo the business. I don't think they are very concerned about how much money the girls make, at leasts not enough to lower the entrance fee. The garotas will continue to show up for the prospect of scoring that BRL1,500 date. I know guys who don't go anywhere except Scandallo when they are in Sao Paulo. There is definitely a dedicated fan base.

Just for comparison to show you what a great deal Scandallo is.

In Brazil it appears they combine VIP Service mingled with dinners, "consumption" and a plethora of girls wandering around trying to meet guys with the most $$$ Same here but "consumption" is never included. (You guys are lucky).

The top 3 clubs here have 200 + dancers at any given time. With 2 basic levels of service.

1st level the general public pays for seating, drinks and pay as you go for dances. Limiting the general admission customer to voyeurism with a few dances. But not as intimate as the VIP area. Still can cost hundreds or thousands of dollars if you have the money and go crazy having never seen a 10 before. These are generic VIP areas for the general public. Girls are usually lined up on weekends with customers waiting to enter. It' a waste of money.

Separating the wheat from the chaff.

2nd level are whales in the VIP rooms. They say, "There's no sex in the VIP rooms" although I think it's possible because the costs are astronomical. Minimums are $5,000 for a reserved booth. Plus whatever you spend there. Champagne isn't cheap. Food delivered, can last all night. These rooms generate more $ than all the 2,000+ general admission customers combined. Now that's consumption!

The top tier girls are sent to those rooms. Girls who "work" these rooms make a minimum of $2,000/ night. They pay up to $150/ night to work at the club. I have seen guys put envelopes of many thousands of dollars of cash in front of these girls propositioning them. These girls drive expensive cars and own multiple homes. So some actually decline offers but some meet clients outside the club. They are not allowed to leave with a customer.

A lot of these girls fly in from SoCal to work weekends, special events and conventions. I have been told John Wayne airport has certain flight with 50% strippers heading to work Vegas weekends. OK some are not just strippers. We have over 20,000 entertainers (licensed) that work in Vegas from the USA mostly. LOL.

One night I was talking to an owner at one of the clubs. I was told VIP clients (whales) support 90% of their business. They have 5,000 customers / night on weekends. The volume is necessary to weed out the whales for our VIP rooms. And it makes the girls happy.

Scandallo is a cheap date by comparison. I can hardly wait. Forgot to mention we all know the USA's top clubs offer "blue balls vs. Complete service" in Brazil".

[Hobbying]

When I was younger it was all about getting 2 different girls a day overall spend 2 k reais a day with club fees etc. Some girls may have been great with some avg.

Now that I am older, I rather get 1 hot arm candy for about 2 k a day and spend a few days together and get BBFS and extras. We got tested together.

Last few months at Scandallo spent a week with a magazine model, fashion model, and tv actress. They go there every couple of months when they need extra cash or find a new sugar so yes gems can be found still if you don't mind spending 10 k a week for one or a little over 2 k usd which is an incredible deal still.

[Knowledge]

I agree with you about the girls and how they make their money. I was referring to Scandallo the business. I don't think they are very concerned about how much money the girls make, at leasts not enough to lower the entrance fee. The garotas will continue to show up for the prospect of scoring that BRL1,500 date. I know guys who don't go anywhere except Scandallo when they are in Sao Paulo. There is definitely a dedicated fan base.

I don't think a few groups of guys are enough for the girls to make money, because not every guy goes there to fuck, no matter the rates. No sex = no money for the girls, no room or take out fee for the venue. I don't think high entrance fee is an issue, because most of it is consumable. But girls, who are freelancers, can't just raise the rates indefinitely, outpacing the rate of inflation, because at some point even fewer guys will fuck them.

[The Critic]

I'm very curious on what data this place went by in making the decision to increasing the prices for everyone there. Not only that but they made the rules more strict for the clients and the girls.

I share your curiosity since I have experienced two price (entrance) hikes. However, the entrance fee is not much my concern due to the consumable portion. Now the Talent rates that is another story. I can understand them trying to make a living but sometimes I just laugh at some of the quotes I have received. Overall, I try to have fun and see what my budget gets me. I do like AxelHeyst's cost strategy.

[Fewdie]

I'm very curious on what data this place went by in making the decision to increasing the prices for everyone there. Not only that but they made the rules more strict for the clients and the girls.

I concur, but I do not think Scandallo cares about the foreigners who patronize the venue. The "Rich" or "well to do" Brasileiro's are the ones making the market. Since SP is the Financial Capital, I'm sure there is plenty of money slouching around. Only if the Brasileiro's start balking at the price and not showing up will the venue take some mitigation measures to reign in prices. As it has been mentioned in previous posts the "Talent is Charged a Fee" to be there, so they at least have to charge Fee+Rate=Quote to make it worthwhile (profit) to be there.

I like this simple strategy. Will employ next trip. It's straightforward and can be adjusted on the fly.

Since you "I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs".

Surely you can elaborate on your conversation with the manager, I would (and sure everyone else) be interested in his response to your complaint / inquiry. I would like to know if he expressed an opinion regarding your "Inputs"? Did he show concern when you expressed dissatisfaction with the pricing or was he disappointed when you indicated that you would not be back because of pricing? Or better yet did he lower the pricing on your accord?

Inquiring minds would like to know. Especially if your able to tell us the new pricing structure you were able to broker (for all us customers) so the Scandallo can continue to be a "going concern"?

[The Critic]

I don't think a few groups of guys are enough for the girls to make money, because not every guy goes there to fuck, no matter the rates. No sex = no money for the girls, no room or take out fee for the venue. I don't think high entrance fee is an issue, because most of it is consumable. But girls, who are freelancers, can't just raise the rates indefinitely, outpacing the rate of inflation, because at some point even fewer guys will fuck them.

I concur, but I do not think Scandallo cares about the foreigners who patronize the venue. The "Rich" or "well to do" Brasileiro's are the ones making the market. Since SP is the Financial Capital, I'm sure there is plenty of money slouching around. Only if the Brasileiro's start balking at the price and not showing up will the venue take some mitigation measures to reign in prices. As it has been mentioned in previous posts the "Talent is Charged a Fee" to be there, so they at least have to charge Fee+Rate=Quote to make it worthwhile (profit) to be there.

Most Scandallo tier 2 quality girls will ask anywhere from 600 to 1000 and will settle for 600 to 800. A tier 1 girl (model quality) will ask anywhere from 1200 to 2000. My simple rule is offer half and be willing to settle for half plus 200 if I really want the girl and she will not go lower. A Scandallo Tier 1 girl example: after a 20 to 30 minute drink & audition that went well, a very attractive girl might ask for 1500. I will counter with a friendly 700 counteroffer, and that's that unless the girl counters my counter with 800 or 900 offer in which case, I will usually accept it and off we go. No girl this trip turned down my final offer of half + 200.

I like this simple strategy. Will employ next trip. It's straightforward and can be adjusted on the fly.

My number best Luxury place was Scandallo. (I also was there in March). This place has taken a major hit. First last week quite bad / empty. (the manager was claiming it is a school close week etc. , But the very average 5 out of 10 girl was asking 1500. I had the same experience with multiple people. (trust me I am an experienced person. Been to Scandallo atleast 50-75 nights). Just got irritating. 1500 with USD to Reals was around 4. 65 = that is $322? + the 500 entrance ($108) + room 260 ($56) = total = 500 $ give or take. That I can get it in US itself. The whole charm was hot girls in abundance, a place with luxury and prices relatively cheaper that US. I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs. If this is the case, people will stop coming here. How much ever you have a great luxury place and easy concept. But 500 $ is just unacceptable. So literally, I left from this place and went to Casarao. My number 1 place is gone. I have a business class ticket in place in April next year and I will be cancelling. Shocker.

Since you "I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs".

Surely you can elaborate on your conversation with the manager, I would (and sure everyone else) be interested in his response to your complaint / inquiry. I would like to know if he expressed an opinion regarding your "Inputs"? Did he show concern when you expressed dissatisfaction with the pricing or was he disappointed when you indicated that you would not be back because of pricing? Or better yet did he lower the pricing on your accord?

Inquiring minds would like to know. Especially if your able to tell us the new pricing structure you were able to broker (for all us customers) so the Scandallo can continue to be a "going concern"?