Sao Paulo Reports

[Frankfurt]

Short answer is no. You need to be national / resident of Brazil to get the RG / RNE to be able to open bank account. You can't open bank account only with CPF. Hence no local bank account means you can't use PIX. Just use cash -tons of safe ATM locations around and you get the best FX rate.

I don't prefer to carry cash, some of the WG don't have POS devices, so end up using cash. Did anyone tried using PIX, is it possible for a foreigner to PIX payments?

[DZone]

To create a valid PIX account you need a bank account in Brasil. In order to open a bank account you need a CPF number.

The only way I found for a cellphone number in Brasil is to have a CLARO account from neighboring countries. Claro gives intl. Roaming in Brasil for their clients.

For me it worked just perfect.

Supposedly you can use Remitly to send money to a PIX recipient. To create an account you don't need CPF.

[HiddenEye]

To create a valid PIX account you need a bank account in Brasil. In order to open a bank account you need a CPF number.

The only way I found for a cellphone number in Brasil is to have a CLARO account from neighboring countries. Claro gives intl. Roaming in Brasil for their clients.

For me it worked just perfect.

I don't prefer to carry cash, some of the WG don't have POS devices, so end up using cash. Did anyone tried using PIX, is it possible for a foreigner to PIX payments?

[DZone]

I concur with your assessment that the same mongering spots are talked about all the time with seldom mention of a new spot. Most don't venture all over the place due to lack of Portuguese language skills and overall lack of knowledge of the city / region. I certainly don't want to be caught out in the middle of nowhere in unfamiliar areas especially if an issue arises (and definitely not at night).

(Sao Paulo is huge, population of 22 million. The Greater Sao Paulo area covers a total of 7,951 square km and the city area is 1,493 square km. Within the city area itself, there are 10 million people at a population density of 7,216 people per square kilometer.). Bigger than NYC. So yea I'm sure there are other undiscovered locations.

I have also discovered new venues just by looking at social media sites where most advertise. I and probably most, have not ventured out to these spots mainly due to Time. If you don't have long (say under a week) you tend to go the named places since they are well reviewed versus going on adventure mongering trying to find an undiscovered / unreviewed spot. Now if you have two weeks or more or living for months to a year in SP, I would agree there is no excuse to venture out but for most of us it's drop-in and get out quick vacation or work-related visit.

Yep. Foreigners with limited time typically are not going to want to experiment. They want the surest thing. Plus, some might want the fancy atmosphere of a Scandallo or Bomboa. Casarao provides another option. Plus these houses have a lot of different types of GPS to choose from whereas smaller ones probably have a more limited selection. Not to mention that if you're for example planning on staying in a area of the city, getting to another can be a pain in the ass with traffic if you don't use metro.

Even if you go to GP Guia, there aren't a lot of great reviews in the clubs (boates) section to do research on. They are a bit dead with sporadic postings. While Clinicas have almost daily reviews and you can find some good info on independents.

[StylishGuy]

I don't prefer to carry cash, some of the WG don't have POS devices, so end up using cash. Did anyone tried using PIX, is it possible for a foreigner to PIX payments?

[Sloninger]

I completely agree with what you are saying. One of the best things about life is that we don't all have to like or want the same things. The world would be awful if everyone wanted the same things, we would all be married to the same woman. LOL.

You are telling us that when we go on a business trip or holidays to SP, we should follow in the footsteps of a local monger, who finds the best value in the many trash puteiros, specially the predio at Rua Barao de Limeira 134, which also has been mentioned here.

I lived abroad during 15 years in three different countries and many times people came to visit me and wanted me to take them to the best restaurants in the city. After few dinners I had to tell them that I don't have a budget to live week after week like I was on holidays.

Yesterday I came back from eight days trip to Spain and I spent much more money for food and pussy, I would spend in a month, if I lived there, because it was time that limited my activities, not money. It is totally different game when you are on holidays or you live in a country. When Im traveling I don't want spend my valuable time looking for the best trash night club in the Pinheiros Station area. This could be the hard part to understand.

It's ridiculous that people think that their way of doing things is the only acceptable way. Some time ago there was this guy who probably has never flown in the business class, told us how we should travel, without understanding that one of the reasons flying in the business class is not having to sit 12 hours next to people like him.

P.S. My favorite night club in So Paulo is Bomboa, not Scandallo.

[The Cane]

I have also discovered new venues just by looking at social media sites where most advertise. I and probably most, have not ventured out to these spots mainly due to Time. If you don't have long (say under a week) you tend to go the named places since they are well reviewed versus going on adventure mongering trying to find an undiscovered / unreviewed spot. Now if you have two weeks or more or living for months to a year in SP, I would agree there is no excuse to venture out but for most of us it's drop-in and get out quick vacation or work-related visit.

I'm sure if you posted actual names and addresses of these places people would check them out (especially if you posted a review). But to criticize that mongers are not venturing to the obvious mongering spots ("However, all the "heroes" and "veterans who dominate this forum seem to be unaware of them. And that is humorous to me, to say the least. ) is without merit. If you wish people to venture out provide venue names and addresses and they will cum. LOL!

You are telling us that when we go on a business trip or holidays to SP, we should follow in the footsteps of a local monger, who finds the best value in the many trash puteiros, specially the predio at Rua Barao de Limeira 134, which also has been mentioned here.

Yesterday I came back from eight days trip to Spain and I spent much more money for food and pussy, I would spend in a month, if I lived there, because it was time that limited my activities, not money. It is totally different game when you are on holidays or you live in a country. When I'm traveling I don't want spend my valuable time looking for the best trash night club in the Pinheiros Station area. This could be the hard part to understand.

A couple of spot on responses. I mean, it was just another rant that offered little of value. To borrow from a well-known public service announcement, "If you see something say something"! LOL! In other words share for the betterment of the community. For example, there used to be essentially no mention of The Connection Nightclub in these threads. I went there and did what I believe was the first report of any length and detail on the place. After that, more and more people started to go and report back on the joint, and it has become known as a viable, lower cost option to Scandallo (along with Casarao). That's how this site is supposed to work. Oh, and one other thing. When traveling abroad don't try be a brave hero no matter how much veteran experience you think you have. Always check to see if you need a visa (see Bolivia threads) LMAO! Because even if you have been to a place many times before things can change (as with Brazil itself).

[Nordico]

As DarkNight Rider, a prolific forista since 2003 recently observed: "Muita mulher, umas 120, maioria com menos de 25 anos, poremmmm 95% andvel prive de 100 reais" (Lots of women, sometimes 120, under 25 years, however 95% on the level of a 100 real prive") and ". Overpriced p krl, mais trap de gringo. (you can guess what the last sentence means). And as another forista pointed out ". O andvel t bem comum, equivalente ou at abaixo muitas CLnicas e prives por a" (the level is common, equivalent or lower than many clinics and prives around there). A coomon gripe with the locals is the cost. "350 a hora + 100 quarto + 50 casa = tristeza. " (350 an hour, 100 for the room, and 50 for admission equals sadness). Yeah, 500 and up for a girl who would be cheap in an ordinary, downscale brothel.

So a question for all of you "experts" who espouse these places, do you guys know something the actual local guys don't know?he greater SP area. However, all the "heroes" and "veterans who dominate this forum seem to be unaware of them. And that is humorous to me, to say the least.

You are telling us that when we go on a business trip or holidays to SP, we should follow in the footsteps of a local monger, who finds the best value in the many trash puteiros, specially the predio at Rua Barao de Limeira 134, which also has been mentioned here.

I lived abroad during 15 years in three different countries and many times people came to visit me and wanted me to take them to the best restaurants in the city. After few dinners I had to tell them that I don't have a budget to live week after week like I was on holidays.

Yesterday I came back from eight days trip to Spain and I spent much more money for food and pussy, I would spend in a month, if I lived there, because it was time that limited my activities, not money. It is totally different game when you are on holidays or you live in a country. When I’m traveling I don't want spend my valuable time looking for the best trash night club in the Pinheiros Station area. This could be the hard part to understand.

It's ridiculous that people think that their way of doing things is the only acceptable way. Some time ago there was this guy who probably has never flown in the business class, told us how we should travel, without understanding that one of the reasons flying in the business class is not having to sit 12 hours next to people like him.

P.S. My favorite night club in São Paulo is Bomboa, not Scandallo.

[The Critic]

I find it humorous that the only two clubs offering prostitutes in SP that are regularly mentioned are those two. As if the sprawling, largest city in the Western hemisphere, located on a continent where prostitution is pervasive would have only just two such "Casas Nocturnas" of note? And what makes them so special? Can't say I have been to either, because I spent way too much time reading GP Guia on these matters and the concenscus on these places by the locals is not a flattering one.

https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.ph...297&start=1650

As DarkNight Rider, a prolific forista since 2003 recently observed: "Muita mulher, umas 120, maioria com menos de 25 anos, poremmmm 95% andvel prive de 100 reais" (Lots of women, sometimes 120, under 25 years, however 95% on the level of a 100 real prive") and ". Overpriced p krl, mais trap de gringo. (you can guess what the last sentence means). And as another forista pointed out ". O andvel t bem comum, equivalente ou at abaixo muitas CLnicas e prives por a" (the level is common, equivalent or lower than many clinics and prives around there). A coomon gripe with the locals is the cost. "350 a hora + 100 quarto + 50 casa = tristeza. " (350 an hour, 100 for the room, and 50 for admission equals sadness). Yeah, 500 and up for a girl who would be cheap in an ordinary, downscale brothel.

So a question for all of you "experts" who espouse these places, do you guys know something the actual local guys don't know?

SP is not my favorite town in Brazil, for reasons that anyone who spent time there would well understand. It's actually an awful place with little to offer given its sheer size. But, I learned quite a few things about it in the past year, since I spent more time there than I wanted and made good use of it. And one thing I learned is that boates are common throughout this city, and most neighborhoods of significance will offer some, if not several in a particular vice zone.

Pinheiros, argubly the coolest neighborhood in SP, is home to most of the cities best music venues: City Lights, Musica Natura, Rockambole, Bona, the Kingston Club to name the one's I am familiar with. I had also read a comment on GP Guia about it having superior boates for the entertainment of discerning gentlemen. But on my first jaunt into the neighborhood to check out this scene one afternoon, I noticed a bit going on at the intersection of Rua Cardeal Arcoverdo at Rua Cunha Gago. A young woman (actually a girl in her late teens) ran down the sidewalk past me, wearing only a bra top, panties and chinelos with a $100 real note in her hand ran past me and into a shop to get some change. It was pretty daring to occur in broad daylight. I smelled vice. Upon purusing the area around the intersection, I passed many clubs with names like "The Freelancer Club" and "The Love Club" and that confirmed my suspicions. I noticed several suspicious establishments in the area. As I visited the neighborhood at night, I noticed even more obvious "Casas the noite" in the area. I eventually counted nine near that intersection. Even went into a few. Others had guys walking in without any issue, whereas a mainstream nightclub would have couples lined up to get in. Then I discovered a few more places on the other side of Av. Brig. Faria Lima, like the "Love Dance" club, where I noticed the usual telltale signs: a bored "hostess" dressed in her heels, bar and panties, standing in the doorway and chatting with the doorman in broad daylight. The I noticed at least another on the same block. Honestlyh, I can't make a exhaustive TR on the area, as I had a girlfriend hoarding my jizz most nights and P4 P fell by the wayside. Briefly. Even if I did, the result would likely would be people posting obviously ficticious TRs about these places and saying crap like "I went to. But I didn't see anything there. " So, I will leave it up to the more adventurous guys to take the metro to the Faria Lima station and check out the neighborhood for themselves. You won't need to look far.

Not long afterwards, I took the metro to the Santana station, got off and headed east to Gemeas Massagens (a massage and depilation parlor run by two hot twins) to have my privates waxed. I recommend the place if you do in fact, actually need those types of services (Rua Duarte de Azevedo, 259). With my see you and my 'taint feeling baby soft, I thought I'd check out the neighborhood, which I knew little about. The I looked across the Avenida Cruzeiro do Sol and noticed a orange building with the letters, "The Orange House" painted on it. Normally, the doorman sitting in a chair at the entrance would be the thing that got my attention. But, in this case a lithe, well tattooed woman in her bar, panties and chinelos was standing next to him, chatting. I immediately wondered what else could be found in this neighborhood and only had to look down on the sidewalk and see the typical, card size pamphlet for a "night club" with images of women on them. I checked the address and it was a few blocks over. Walked past the place and there was the usual doorman, sitting in a chair, beckoning me to come inside. I declined as it was only 11 AM and I was also expected to make an appearance at my girlfriend's flat in Bela Vista. I walked around a bit more and noticed another place with a lavicious, larger than life painting of a semi nude woman on the front. It was such and such "night club" and its posted hours were 11 AM - 9 PM. What kind of nightclub opens before noon and closes by 9 PM? A night club for married men, who better have their ass home by 9 PM. That's who.

Mind you, these are only two of the neighborhoods I got around to exploring in a city with countless neighborhoods. AFAIK, vice districts with nocturnal entertainment are common throughout the greater SP area. However, all the "heroes" and "veterans who dominate this forum seem to be unaware of them. And that is humorous to me, to say the least.

I concur with your assessment that the same mongering spots are talked about all the time with seldom mention of a new spot. Most don't venture all over the place due to lack of Portuguese language skills and overall lack of knowledge of the city / region. I certainly don't want to be caught out in the middle of nowhere in unfamiliar areas especially if an issue arises (and definitely not at night).

(Sao Paulo is huge, population of 22 million. The Greater Sao Paulo area covers a total of 7,951 square km and the city area is 1,493 square km. Within the city area itself, there are 10 million people at a population density of 7,216 people per square kilometer.). Bigger than NYC. So yea I'm sure there are other undiscovered locations.

I have also discovered new venues just by looking at social media sites where most advertise. I and probably most, have not ventured out to these spots mainly due to Time. If you don't have long (say under a week) you tend to go the named places since they are well reviewed versus going on adventure mongering trying to find an undiscovered / unreviewed spot. Now if you have two weeks or more or living for months to a year in SP, I would agree there is no excuse to venture out but for most of us it's drop-in and get out quick vacation or work-related visit.

I'm sure if you posted actual names and addresses of these places people would check them out (especially if you posted a review). But to criticize that mongers are not venturing to the obvious mongering spots ("However, all the "heroes" and "veterans who dominate this forum seem to be unaware of them. And that is humorous to me, to say the least. ) is without merit. If you wish people to venture out provide venue names and addresses and they will cum. LOL!

[The Cane]

No matter where I go, Latinas on average are the best performers and its not really close. Brazilians are the best of them on average. Its got nothing to do with them being exotic, it has to do with their attitudes towards men and sex. They seem to have fewer inhibitions and get caught up in the moment. Sure you get your duds, its just very rare with Brazilian women in my experience. I am most attracted to the slavic eastern european model type, but they just don't fuck like Latinas do.

That's one of my huge complaints about Asian women on average. I found that too many of them can be too "shy" and "inhibited" when it comes to their bodies and having sex. Sure there are some real Asian "firecrackers" in the room, but we're talking averages and margins here. And what about those girls from Brazil who look European (they're all over the place if you know where to look) but fuck like a Latina? Drove me insane and out of my freaking mind the first time I went to Brazil, and I've never looked back. Those little flat ass Thai girls aren't fucking like a Latina haha! No way, no how! To each man his own.

[Wayne Roberts]

I would say that means very little in this case. By The Cane's own admission, he has very strong bias toward certain type of women so it does not matter how many countries he has travelled. Only he can define his own that I agree but it can't be generalized because the strong bias.

OP has spent one year each in the two cities. I think that gave him more insight and different perspective.

I have lived in Asia. Philippines and Singapore to be exact, have been to every almost single major Asian country and mongered in them all.

Also been to monger friendly countries in Europe like Russia, Germany, Austria, Czech Republic and Spain. Not to mention places like Dubai. Then I have also had access to a wide assortment of women in Australia and the UK, but also in Hong Kong and Macau which attracted women from all over the world.

No matter where I go, Latinas on average are the best performers and its not really close. Brazilians are the best of them on average. Its got nothing to do with them being exotic, it has to do with their attitudes towards men and sex. They seem to have fewer inhibitions and get caught up in the moment. Sure you get your duds, its just very rare with Brazilian women in my experience.

I am most attracted to the slavic eastern european model type, but they just don't fuck like Latinas do.

[Lefeu]

It's true. I think you said you were in Pattaya and not seeing someone attractive for a long time, right? If that is correct, that is not the norm...

I tend to agree with you. Difficult to monger in Pattaya and not find a girl that you would consider your type. However, a bad experience with a girl can leave a bad impression about the place. This can happen in Pattaya as well.

[Eszpresszo]

Carasao- My favorite. Girls will take R300-350 for half an hour (maybe 45 min) and entry and hotel is R50. It's not the place for people do not like loud / club setting and you can find some gems on this place.

Scandallo- this place has been reviewed so many times so not sure if anything else can be added. The only thing was that girls that I have been with previously for R500-600, wouldn't budge this time. They all remembered my session with them but advised that the price has changed now. After hearing this feedback, just went to Carasao.

I find it humorous that the only two clubs offering prostitutes in SP that are regularly mentioned are those two. As if the sprawling, largest city in the Western hemisphere, located on a continent where prostitution is pervasive would have only just two such "Casas Nocturnas" of note? And what makes them so special? Can't say I have been to either, because I spent way too much time reading GP Guia on these matters and the concenscus on these places by the locals is not a flattering one.

https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.ph...297&start=1650

As DarkNight Rider, a prolific forista since 2003 recently observed: "Muita mulher, umas 120, maioria com menos de 25 anos, poremmmm 95% andvel prive de 100 reais" (Lots of women, sometimes 120, under 25 years, however 95% on the level of a 100 real prive") and ". Overpriced p krl, mais trap de gringo. (you can guess what the last sentence means). And as another forista pointed out ". O andvel t bem comum, equivalente ou at abaixo muitas CLnicas e prives por a" (the level is common, equivalent or lower than many clinics and prives around there). A coomon gripe with the locals is the cost. "350 a hora + 100 quarto + 50 casa = tristeza. " (350 an hour, 100 for the room, and 50 for admission equals sadness). Yeah, 500 and up for a girl who would be cheap in an ordinary, downscale brothel.

So a question for all of you "experts" who espouse these places, do you guys know something the actual local guys don't know?

SP is not my favorite town in Brazil, for reasons that anyone who spent time there would well understand. It's actually an awful place with little to offer given its sheer size. But, I learned quite a few things about it in the past year, since I spent more time there than I wanted and made good use of it. And one thing I learned is that boates are common throughout this city, and most neighborhoods of significance will offer some, if not several in a particular vice zone.

Pinheiros, argubly the coolest neighborhood in SP, is home to most of the cities best music venues: City Lights, Musica Natura, Rockambole, Bona, the Kingston Club to name the one's I am familiar with. I had also read a comment on GP Guia about it having superior boates for the entertainment of discerning gentlemen. But on my first jaunt into the neighborhood to check out this scene one afternoon, I noticed a bit going on at the intersection of Rua Cardeal Arcoverdo at Rua Cunha Gago. A young woman (actually a girl in her late teens) ran down the sidewalk past me, wearing only a bra top, panties and chinelos with a $100 real note in her hand ran past me and into a shop to get some change. It was pretty daring to occur in broad daylight. I smelled vice. Upon purusing the area around the intersection, I passed many clubs with names like "The Freelancer Club" and "The Love Club" and that confirmed my suspicions. I noticed several suspicious establishments in the area. As I visited the neighborhood at night, I noticed even more obvious "Casas the noite" in the area. I eventually counted nine near that intersection. Even went into a few. Others had guys walking in without any issue, whereas a mainstream nightclub would have couples lined up to get in. Then I discovered a few more places on the other side of Av. Brig. Faria Lima, like the "Love Dance" club, where I noticed the usual telltale signs: a bored "hostess" dressed in her heels, bar and panties, standing in the doorway and chatting with the doorman in broad daylight. The I noticed at least another on the same block. Honestlyh, I can't make a exhaustive TR on the area, as I had a girlfriend hoarding my jizz most nights and P4 P fell by the wayside. Briefly. Even if I did, the result would likely would be people posting obviously ficticious TRs about these places and saying crap like "I went to. But I didn't see anything there. " So, I will leave it up to the more adventurous guys to take the metro to the Faria Lima station and check out the neighborhood for themselves. You won't need to look far.

Not long afterwards, I took the metro to the Santana station, got off and headed east to Gemeas Massagens (a massage and depilation parlor run by two hot twins) to have my privates waxed. I recommend the place if you do in fact, actually need those types of services (Rua Duarte de Azevedo, 259). With my see you and my 'taint feeling baby soft, I thought I'd check out the neighborhood, which I knew little about. The I looked across the Avenida Cruzeiro do Sol and noticed a orange building with the letters, "The Orange House" painted on it. Normally, the doorman sitting in a chair at the entrance would be the thing that got my attention. But, in this case a lithe, well tattooed woman in her bar, panties and chinelos was standing next to him, chatting. I immediately wondered what else could be found in this neighborhood and only had to look down on the sidewalk and see the typical, card size pamphlet for a "night club" with images of women on them. I checked the address and it was a few blocks over. Walked past the place and there was the usual doorman, sitting in a chair, beckoning me to come inside. I declined as it was only 11 AM and I was also expected to make an appearance at my girlfriend's flat in Bela Vista. I walked around a bit more and noticed another place with a lavicious, larger than life painting of a semi nude woman on the front. It was such and such "night club" and its posted hours were 11 AM - 9 PM. What kind of nightclub opens before noon and closes by 9 PM? A night club for married men, who better have their ass home by 9 PM. That's who.

Mind you, these are only two of the neighborhoods I got around to exploring in a city with countless neighborhoods. AFAIK, vice districts with nocturnal entertainment are common throughout the greater SP area. However, all the "heroes" and "veterans who dominate this forum seem to be unaware of them. And that is humorous to me, to say the least.

[PussyRiot]

Came back from the trip about a month ago and wanted to share some feedback.

Nothing really new but hoping it helps some mongers.

Moema- Always stayed in Vila Olmpia area due to familiarity but Moema neighborhood was great. Stayed next to Ibirapuera mall and it was simply amazing. Nice local restaurants and walking distance to all the Moema clinicas. Only downside was airplane noise but you will get used to it pretty quickly.

Connection- This place is far but really only about 35 min from Moema area during nighttime. The entry is R50 and R70 after 7 pm Avoid going here on Saturday and recommend visiting on Thursday. It's been few years since I have visited this place and they have done some renovation in the front entrance where it reminds of Scandallo (understand its owned by same people) The room is excellent (R120) as well and girls are happy to take R400.

Caf Photo- After numerous trips to SP, this was the first time visited this boate. The place is elegant but they just didn't have enough girls. I know many people comment about finger print access but my apt had same thing so it didn't really bother me.

Abbbora. Simply my favorite Clinica in SP. They open at noon but most of girls don't come in until 1 pm Or 2 pm Each visit, there are at least 10-15 to choose from and sometimes you will find that unicorn (that Scandallo 9 rating). Ran across girl that been with few years back and simply had an amazing time. They open at 11 am On Saturday and closed on Sunday. The rate is R330 and R200 goes to the girl.

Taj Mahal Spa. Read some reports about this place and tried since it is located in Moema and walking distance. Very nice facility and they will send available girl photos and price (R450 per HR.) when reaching out via Whatsapp. No in-person presentation and tablet viewing only.

Carasao- My favorite. Girls will take R300-350 for half an hour (maybe 45 min) and entry and hotel is R50. It's not the place for people do not like loud / club setting and you can find some gems on this place.

Scandallo- this place has been reviewed so many times so not sure if anything else can be added. The only thing was that girls that I have been with previously for R500-600, wouldn't budge this time. They all remembered my session with them but advised that the price has changed now. After hearing this feedback, just went to Carasao.

Places that open on Sunday- Miruna, Prime (open at 2 pm), Tai maju and club option is Carasao (they were pretty slow on Sunday).

Bumble dating app- Was hanging out with local Brazilian friend and advised girls use Bumble date app rather than Tinder.

Lastly, wanted to give a special shout out to SocratesNY as I read your post and review of places religiously when I was in SP. Maybe we will come across a path and share some stories.

[Nounce]

... Most everyone has a preference or a "type". That doesn't make me any different from anyone else. ....

It's true. I think you said you were in Pattaya and not seeing someone attractive for a long time, right? If that is correct, that is not the norm. I am making noise in Latin America with many Latinas almost daily for the past year. I don't really want to excite you. LOL.

If you have lived in Medellin or Sao Paulo both for 1 year each. You are welcome to share your experience based on that. Even if they are the same as 10 days. Just say so because it's your actual experience. The OP can also share his experience like you and form his own opinion.