San Jose General Reports

[DrBrew1]

While there maybe more than meets the eye to parts of his story. he does make a few valid points. Think about it san jose is a shithole, yes the CR authorities are corrupt also. They are. But experiences at the MP's, such as new fantasy and Zona Blue are usually decent. The Tony lama Butch Pavilion ( known as the HDR), is always a wild card. But a lot of it has to do with your expectations and attitude going in. As others have said, CR is not a play to find a girlfriend. many mercenaries.

Big Bob the US is not the only place having economic troubles. It is worldwide, perhaps you would like to visit Zimbabwe on your next monger visit, tell us how wonderful the Mugabe regime is.....

Yes he has a right to his opinion and if he had a bad time he should stay away. I have never had a bad time in Costa Rica.(i make my 5th trip in a year next month).Your points about attitude and expectations are spot on but most guys never take great advice!mis dos centavos.

[MJG Dogs]

While there maybe more than meets the eye to parts of his story. he does make a few valid points. Think about it san jose is a shithole, yes the CR authorities are corrupt also. They are. But experiences at the MP's, such as new fantasy and Zona Blue are usually decent. The Tony lama Butch Pavilion ( known as the HDR), is always a wild card. But a lot of it has to do with your expectations and attitude going in. As others have said, CR is not a play to find a girlfriend. many mercenaries.

Big Bob the US is not the only place having economic troubles. It is worldwide, perhaps you would like to visit Zimbabwe on your next monger visit, tell us how wonderful the Mugabe regime is.....

[Prolijo]

I'm re-thinking my stay at the hotel del ray. I mean I can stay at the holiday inn (not tica friendly) and just visit fantasy & ZB. A decent plan?

I think not!

First of all, the HDR is listed as a Hotel and Casino, not an MP. Sure, in actuality it is essentially the same as an MP, but do the credit company computers really know that?

Secondly, its not like the HI and the HDR are the only games in town. There are MANY other hotels that are MUCH more tica friendly than EITHER of those places (e.g. they dont charge the $50 and $10 guest fees that those places charge). And even though those places are arguably even more tica friendly than the HDR, I seriously doubt their names showing up on any credit card reciepts is going to raise any suspicions.

Third, if for some reason you absolutely have to stay at some hotel that either charges you $10 or more for the "right" to do bring back chicas or even doesn't let you bring back them at all, then that doesn't mean ZB or NF are the only other games in town either. Of course, there are lots of OTHER MP's and night clubs to choose from that offer on-premises entertainment but you could still pick up chicas at places like the BM or KL. You'd just might have to take them back someplace other than your non-tica-friendly hotel (e.g. the Hotel Asia has short-term rooms right around the corner from the BM for just $10)

And fourth, if you really like the HDR so much but don't want them showing up on your credit reports you could always pay your bill in cash. In fact, at some of the other TRULY chica friendly hotels you can sometimes get a pretty nice discount FOR paying in cash.

[Junky11]

"Most borrowers know a late payment or high outstanding balance can hurt their credit. But what about frequenting a massage parlor, retreading a tire, or visiting a marriage counselor? Such activities count, too, according to a suit filed by the Federal Trade Commission in federal court in Atlanta on June 10 against card issuer CompuCredit ..."


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I'm re-thinking my stay at the hotel del ray. I mean I can stay at the holiday inn (not tica friendly) and just visit fantasy & ZB. A decent plan?

[Big Bob 7]

This is what happened to me as told to a friend via PM's.

Cpsta Rica is out of the bag and has been burned out by dumb ass gringos for years so I have no interest in trying to keep other yahoos away. I am making this info available because the environment in San Jose has changed and if you don't know about it you could wind up in a lot of trouble over some nonsense like I did. For those of you who have made 1000 posts and already know every fucking thing that there is to know in the universe PLEASE IGNORE THIS MESSAGE...P.S. don't drop the soap!!!

There was some kind of huge mobilization of police going on down there. In Barrio Amon there were like two fuerzas publicas on every corner and in the DelRay and Key Largo there were a lot of obvious American undercover agents. I met this guy from Limon and his girlfriend outside of the DelRay. They invited me to go to a hip hop/reggae club in San Pedro called Tavarua. We went and partied all night in the VIP section and invited up a load of fine assed local hotties. That morning I returned to the Inca Real. The next day I went to AS for some chicken wings and cops were following me. I wasn't even aware of it at first but a guy on the street came up to me and said, "dude you got problems", and motioned behind me. I realized that they might arrest me so I went to a cabina to call some relatives. They blocked the calls and recorded the numbers. I tried to walk to the Radisson and make a call and they sent a motorcycle unit ahead to talk to the front desk and keep me from calling out. I returned to the room and realized that the entire hotel had been emptied. There were no guests anywhere in sight. I tried to call from the room and none of the calls would go out. Then the front desk guy picked up the phone and acted like the operator and asked what number I was calling. He then informed me that the call would not go through. I started using the Internet then after about 20 minutes the Internet stopped working.

I realized that they could not stop a call at the airport so I took a cab out there to make the call. There are phones outside and inside at the departure terminal. I went to go inside to make the call and at the last minute I changed my mind just as the sliding doors were opening and turned towards the outside phones. I noticed six cops running towards me as if to grab me. When they saw that I was not going to go inside they tried to play it off as if nothing was happening (which was totally ridiculous at that point). I made the call and went to Key Largo because I knew that they had the Internet computers there. I sent messages to my family telling them what was going on. I then went to the DR and started drinking Redbulls because there were nothing but agents at the hotel and I thought that they might grab me there. I was approached by a Nica hooker who was really undercover. She was asking me all kinds of questions and then asked to see my passport and looked at all of the exit and entry stamps. During the talk she confided in me that her brother was working for the fuerzas publicas and that she had only been working the Rey for a month. Nobody seemed to know her there. I hung out with her all night going to Key Largo and some clubs in Barrio Mexico because I wanted to stay awake and feed her information so that she could realize that I was just a tourist and not some major drug kingpin. Undercover agents followed us everywhere that we went and stood at the edge of he dance floor watching us. There were from 6 to 9 of them at this point. It got late and I took her to a dirty, grungy fuck motel and fucked her and told her what I thought was going on. She was tryng to convince me to get a fake passort and illegally cross the border with her into Nicaragua (a set up) and told me to go back to the hotel because the police would not arrest me that night. I was to call her the next day to set up the escape. I didn't.

The next day I went to Heredia to cool out . I took the bus up there and then cab to hotel flores. I took a cab from there checked out of the Inca Real and moved to Heredia. I think that I lost them that night and that pissed them off. The next day I contacted a host family that I stayed with in Santa Barbara and arranged to move in with them. I figured that I would be safer out in the middle of nowhere. Bad move. They set up surveillance out there and talked to the family that I was with and turned them against me. Then they set up twenty four hour patrols of three motorcycle units and a police car and the big paddy-wagon with the siren on and circled the neighborhood for two and a half weeks straight. The whole town was in on it and people I passed in the street would be saying, "When are they finally going to grab that guy." It had to be annoying everyone because the sound of the vehicles passing and the sirens was deafening. I contracted a lawyer from the American Embassy list and went to the station with him in Heredia to see what was up. They said that there was no case on me and that they were not following me. The lawyer was slick and had lived in London and in the U.S. and spoke good English. He kept telling me not to worry about the tails but to get some money and have it ready. In retrospect I think that he was in with the police from the start.

After talking to the police in Heredia the cops put an undercover agent at every cab stand in Heredia so that when I approached the real cabbies would drive off and only the cops would be left to take me anywhere. They would grill me with questions for the whole trip and would act like they didn't know where anything was. For example, I wanted to return from Heredia and go to Santa Barbara and the guy took me to Barva. Stuff like that...and then would try to act like he had never heard of Santa Barbara. I could here the family talking to each other in hushed voices at night saying, "I hope that they grab him soon." Then the bank put a hold on my account which was really my fault because I forgot to call them before leaving for my trip. I knew that I needed a secure line to verify my identity and remove the hold and the American embassy would not provide me with one. I made the call at the lawyers office and he listened in and stole my info. He then tried to rob my account but luckily was not able to because the bank refused to remove the hold without me first sending some faxed signatures and copies of my ID. The hold blocked him out too but I was worried because I didn't have a lot of money left on me and now I couldn't remove that hold or he could clean me out.

I decided to do some research on the net to try to find out what was going on. I found an article which said that the guy that I had been hanging out with had been arrested on possesion with intent to sell in Jaco. He had mentioned wanting to make a trip to Limon to see his family and I think that he knew that the heat was on and wanted to get out of town. I also read about the OIJ (who had arrested him) and realized that I wasn't crazy in thinking that these young undercover goons were following me around (most OIJ agents are recruited directly out of high school and this accounted for their aggressive thuggy vibe.) In fact there were three of them waiting outside of the Internet cafe watching me as I was reading about them. On the way home the lady in front of me on the bus openly called the cops on her cellphone to tell them that I was headed back to Santa Barbara. (They never seemed to get it into there thick skulls that I speak fluent Spanish). On the way to the house a group of kids were sitting in front of the church on the plaza and one of them flipped me the bird and said, "Ahora ganamos."

When I got home I noticed a strong odor of cocaine in the back room across from where I was sleeping. I tossed the room looking for what they planted but couldn't find anything. Two days later the mother of the family that I was staying with said that she needed to remove the beds from that room because another family needed them. I knew then that the coke was probably in the frames. They had to do something because I wasn't a trafficker and the stalemate of watching me and harrassing the shit out of everybody in Santa Barbara was making them look bad. On top of that they are watching me go from club to club dancing , drinking, and fucking while they are outside somtimes in the rain on a steakout. This had to be getting old for them. I new that the fix was in and was running out of money so I left all of my shit at the house and made a break for it. My family bought me a ticket home and I jumped on a bus to Heredia. They had tails on the bus and I heard one of them say to the other, "He's going for the plane now!!". I jumped of the bus at a stop midway to Heredia where I saw three cabs waiting. I jumped in the cab and had him take me to the airport. At the airport a group of 6 agents followed me on the first leg of the flight. They just happened to all be seated around me. I just happened to be seated next to a superfine twenty something model quality Nica (also an agent) who just knew that I was THE most interesting person on the flight and was FASCINATED with me. She spent the flight milking me for info and then suggested that we spend our layovers together. I agreed until we got off of the flight and three out of the six cops went running ahead of me towards immigration. She was there to slow me down because I didn't have bags and she did. I ditched her telling her that we had to wait in two separate immigration lines anyway and that I would meet her on the other side and I went running towards immigration. I got through without being stopped and at that point I felt a lot better because I was officially back in my country.

This was the first time that anything like this has ever happened to me and it was a fucking drag. On top of that I wound up spending a lot of money on this crap and I lost my bag and everything in it but I am free and not in a Costa Rican jail so Cest La Vie. On the monger side of things it turns out that the undercover ho has the best pussy in San Jose. I went to some massage parlors, including a repeat with Rachel who is now a hardened, cold-blooded, gold-digging ***** who can't even spell GFE. The girls at the Rey have gone down and look really plastic and used up. The quality of the Colombianas has really taken a nose dive since I was last there. There were a couple of Black Colombianas working the Rey who would have had trouble moving that pussy in Cali....no joke. There would have been few takers and I was surprised that they could do business in San Jose. You can tell that people are pissed that the exchange has gone from 460 to 520 overnight and there is a lot of anti U.S. sentiment building over the decision to approve the TLC just as the American economy is tanking. The family that I stayed with in Santa Barbara now has iron bars surrounding their entire house and the lawyer who tried to rob me said that he moved his practice from Barrio Amon to to Pavas because his wife was robbed and almost strangled to death by a gang of Colombians in the mid-afternoon. I don't care what anyone else does but I will never go back there.

The guy I was with got arrested in Jaco with 20 something grams of pure coke ....20 grams of crack and something else. You speak Spanish right!!! Here is a link.
nacion.com/ln_ee/2008/junio/05/sucesos1565428.html

You have to put the www before this. If I didn't erase it I don't think that this message would display the link.

I could have met this guy at the Pueblo, in a restaurant....anywhere. And I don't believe that nonsense in the paper either. He used to work security at the club that he took me to and was happy when they offered to let him work the next night after we went. He told me that he dealt but he wasn't happy about it and was super small time. He was just a regular young guy who fell on hard times. Really he was living off of his girl who had a nice job in Cartago. They set this dude up just like they were going to set me up. He was no Escobar but he was a Black guy from Limon in San Jose and his profile made a good media story. While they were framing him the guys 10 rungs up the ladder from him are STILL dealing with impunity and immunity. And please note that I am not the only one on this board talking about undercover cops operating in San Jose now!

I never realized that partying with a stranger could get me in this much trouble. Actually, my instincts told me not to mess with that dude but I was thinking that he had some kind of hidden agenda. As time went along and he didn't try to con me out of any money or anything I thought that everything was cool. What I want to impress upon you and everyone on the forum is just that, for some reason now, there are a lot of undercover motherfuckers posing as mongers in and around the DelRay and to watch your back. This is something new in San Jose and it seems to be a joint effort with the U.S. police force or Interpol or something. So we all need to be a little more careful than before. Also if you check out the CR forum you will see that a lot of guys are being mugged in Barrio Amon in broad daylight now walking from New Fantasy to Zona Blue by armed motorcycle thugs. I think that what has happened is that as the economy has worsened the Colombians who were pimping those girls have turned to robbery as there own personal hustle.

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[Fantasy]

It seems that "BIG BOB" is trying to direct traffic away from San Jose. Those of us who frequent the Colombia boards have already seen this. Before long Jackson will have to fully Moderate this place as well. I would agree that San Jose is one of the worst places to find real GFE, but i really don't think this report will carry much weight when sized up with thousands of favorable ones. I think when he mentioned that their economy was in the shitter he hoped to furthur discourage travelers from fucking his new girlfriend. But don't we seek crumbling economies?

Lorenzo, with our combined 1200 posts on this board, we may not have quite enough experience to comment here.
I think I should retract my statement and take Bob's advice!!!

[Big Bossman]

Big Bob? I feel something is missing from your story. I mean, it is unfortunate that you had such a bad experience ... but what were you doing that was attracting such bad attention from -it seems- everyone? Please do share. Or at least ponder this issue to yourself so that you can hopefully avoid such bad fortune in the future.

SJO ... I'm going back there in a few days. I can't wait. It will be my second trip in two months and I dream of the beautiful ladies daily.

[Big Bob 7]

I guess that some of you will have to be made believers by experience. I had a hard time getting a lawyer to take my case because there is no money in criminal cases and most of them specialize in other things. One of the lawyers who wouldn't take my case told me that the police had followed HIM before. I don't know when you were in San Jose last Lorenzo but the ambience of that place has changed. This situation was real. The policed harassed the shit out of me for 2 and a half weeks and what sucks about Costa Rica is that you can confront them point blank and they don't have to tell you anything. There is NO authority that you can go to to get information and the cops are just plain thugs. The embassy is totally useless. The guy that I associated with who was later arrested pulled a three month sentence while he is awaiting his trial. They can throw you in jail and hold you while they decide if you are guilty or not. Be glad that you haven't found yourself in this same situation because if you had been through what I went through I am SURE that you would be a lot more paranoid than I was. They LITERALLY ran me out of town.

[Paintergle]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Bob 7

I just got back from my second trip to this shithole.....Spend your precious time and money elsewhere if you have any sense at all!

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Report of Distinction? Puh-leez! More like a clinical case study in paranoia. San Jose is far from my number one spot for mongering, but this report is over the top. I don't believe any of this poster's allegations. He appears to be highly delusional. Seriously, I think he needs help.

I would have to agree, possibly he really has never been there...i go every 30 days for 3 years and have a ball,, but then some people can't walk through life,,

[Lorenzo]

I just got back from my second trip to this shithole.....Spend your precious time and money elsewhere if you have any sense at all!

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Report of Distinction? Puh-leez! More like a clinical case study in paranoia. San Jose is far from my number one spot for mongering, but this report is over the top. I don't believe any of this poster's allegations. He appears to be highly delusional. Seriously, I think he needs help.

L

[DR Monger II]

I don't know, but mongering is one thing, but doing drugs. That brings another element into it that you don't want.

[Big Bob 7]

I just got back from my second trip to this shithole. I arrived and the first thing that happened was that my cabbie tried to rip me off. I was tired from the flight and exchanging a little bit of money at the airport while my cabbie was waiting at the window. While the guy behind the window was looking for change she said that she had the bill that he was looking for and offerred it to me taking the cash. He was in on it. On the way out she tells two cabbies that we are passing that she already hit this sucker (that would be me) for 5 bucks. We argue in the cab down and I get the money back. I met some locals and started partying with them. They turned out to be the wrong people. Somehow in the midst of this the cops started following me. EVERYWHERE! They harrassed me every day of the trip first starting with uniformed fuerzas publicas and then with young unarmed thugs (probably OIJ undercover officers) then later with English speaking fake "American style monger types". There are people openly smoking weed on the street everywhere and scamming every gringo in sight with every con in the book and these assholes are fucking with ME! In addition to the tails they had "hookers" come up to me who just happened to want to take a look at my passport entry stamps and ask me twenty questions. Then really obvious tourist types would come up to me and nonchalantly ask me where they could score (real subtle).

I made the mistake of repeating with Rachel at New Fantasy. She was one of my favoritas from the first trip. She informs me that a tip for BBBJ and CIM at New Fantasy is now standard. She tried for ten bucks. She got five an no repeat business. She is still fine as hell and can really suck some dick but her attitude has really gotten worse. She is all business. She told me that she had a lot of clients that day and really needed her day off. She also told me that she likes New Fantasy better than Zona Blue because tourists aren't coming to San Jose like they used to and New Fantasy has a steady stream of Tico clients. She said that she prefers Tico clients to foreign ones. I went down to that dump on calle 11 passed Tin Jo and Idem. I can't remember the name of the joint but the girls were young and looked liked dirty crack heads. I sessioned with a Nica starfish who was so lame I had to finish with a handjob and show her how to give one. Luckily the damage was only about 20-25 bucks. The most fun that I had was dragging a Nica hooker from the DelRay around all night from club to club trying to lose the cops. I had a good time dancing salsa and cumbia with the girls at Key Largo as old-assed, uncoordinated, bald, drunken fuckers kept bumping into us on the dance floor while they were looking for the beat in all of the wrong places. I spent the rest of the trip up in Heredia trying to wait for the heat to die down. It didn't. Trouble followed me out there too. I contracted a lawyer using the U. S. Embassy's list and went to talk with the cops in Heredia. They told me that no investigation was in progress and that they had no problem with me. The next thing that I know all the cabs that I get into don't know where shit is and routinely get lost and all of the drivers want to play twenty questions and NOONE knows "the way to San Jose" but Dionne Warwick. Then I read in la nacion that my "local friends" were picked up in a raid in Jaco by the OIJ. Then my bank puts a hold on my account because of the money that I took out to pay the lawyer. Knowing that the cops were following me to every internet cafe and cabina stand that I went to I went to call the bank at the lawyer's office after being denied the use of a secure telephone line at the U. S. Embassy. (Those fuckers are totally useless at the embassy and you have to announce your reason for consulting them in front of everyone in the waiting room while they answer you over a fucking LOUD SPEAKER. No joke). The lawyer listened in on my call and stole my personal identification info and tried to steal money from my account.

I knew that these OIJ thugs were tired of watching me enjoy my vacation and that a frame up job was in the works and also due to the hold on my account and the fact that I couldn't remove the hold without this other asshole draining all of the funds out of it, I decided to get the fuck out of town in a hurry! My first trip here was lukewarm at best. This time the line up at the DelRay was noticeably lower in quality. The Colombianas that I saw working there wouldn't be able to pay a Colombian guy to fuck them at home. I can't believe that the mob is paying to sponsor those hags and they need more than braces and fake racks now. There were some HOT Colombianas on my last trip and I bagged the best one. The verdict. San Jose is a worthless peice of shit town that should ooze off of the map of the world and into a funky septic tank somewhere. It is the only place in the world now that is doing worse than the U. S. Economically speaking and you can feel the desperation of the people all around you. Spend your precious time and money elsewhere if you have any sense at all!

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[Mahal]

Decided to stay at hotel Presidente after reading the reviews, really a very nice upscale hotel suitable for both business and hobbying travelers and very close to the bars (was told not to walk back from BM at night though).

I must emphasize that the dress code for the ladies, which is mentioned elsewhere on this forum, is very strictly enforced. I ended up having to take my chica back home at 5AM so she could change, after the Presidente's security absolutely would not let her in with a skirt above her knees (damn, even the school girls have skirts above knee level). I argued for a while with the night manager, who swore he would do the same if she was my mother in law, I don't think so... Besides this very unpleasant incident the hotel is really fine, at least the lobby, the bar and the large jaccuzzi suite.

Blue Marlin crowded all night, but I don't really like the setting, just too aggressive for me, prefer Key Largo across the street for the music and the bar, the same chicas cross the street between both locations. Most won't approach you unless approached first, that is except for the ugly ones since they know they won't get approached. All quoted $100/ST or $200/LT and with few exceptions the nicer girls were gone by 1AM.

Went to Zona Blue for the first time, fun place, a bunch of mongers were taking close ups of ladies stripping at the bar and spending what appeared to be a lot of money on 2 girls so they would keep stripping. 7 girls at 7:00PM, in the 5-7 range, nothing extraordinary but not bad, would go back. No one approached me but the girls were all over the older guys, white hair or bald with a fat wallet seemed to be the seduction factors, as would be expected in a brothel-type setting. Rooms available on site, drinks were fairly expensive as I recall (4 or 5,000), compared to the BM.

Tried New Fantasy and really did not like it, 5 girls watching TV behind a window hoping you won't pick them. Looks from 3 to 6, I took the 6, nice body, mechanical CBJ and a couple positions, I did get a nice massage though. Another post accurately described the "Communal" shower facilities. Would not repeat. I can't remember how much I paid but it was consistent with the info in this thread, and not worth more.

Back to my original Chica at the Presidente, Julietta, she was all over me at Key Largo, lots of DFK, very sexy, brought her back home after the Presidente incident, she wanted to go to a short term hotel but I insisted on going back to my room after she changed into tights (with no underwear...). That got us back into the Presidente around 6AM. She had been drinking a lot and fell asleep. I woke her up and explained I had no time as I had to leave in an hour, she could either stay and have sex with me (that is before I found out neither of us had condoms) or I could bring her home again. She ended up staying, performed a decent BBBJTC, and I paid her $100 as agreed. Nice girl but pretty smashed from the vodka/gin blend she was drinking all night.

Overall not the best or the worse experiences, maybe could be fun with more time.

[DrBrew1]

Can't say I've ever spent any time with any Columbian women, so I can't really comment on Julio Frippo's expert commentary. I can say I have dallied with approximately 50 or so lovely Colombian ladies, or Colombianas, in my day, most of them at Campo Alegre on the island of Curacao and a handful of takeouts from the Del Rey. I'm no expert, but if I had to chose the countries that produce the most beautiful ladies in the world, Colombia would easily be in my top three. Interestingly enough, the Colombianas on their 3-month stint in Curacao were almost uniformly sweet and fun to be around. Their counterparts from the Del Rey generally much more hardened and "professional." I confess I have never been to Colombia, so again I need to state that I am hardly an expert here.

I have been to Colombia and found the chicas from that country to be very easy on the eyes and also easy to get along with.In Cost Rica i have never had any problems with them as well but i have to admit Colombianas on their home turf are amazing.If you can speak Spanish go and you'll have the time of your life!

[Mangera]

I could not disagree more. Columbians are the hottest women south of the border.

And north of the border as well.