San Jose General Reports

[Kid Cisco]

I'm booked at the El Panama, which appears to be a 4-star hotel. I got a special 'Government' rate which I think is about $85 a night. They say you are required to present a government ID to get this rate. Problem is I retired 2 years ago, so I'm going to present them with an ID and hope they don't notice that it expired 2-1/2 years ago. If they make an issue of it, I may have to pay the regular rate, which is about $120 a night. Hope they don't read this forum! I'll let you know what the hotel is like.

Lorenzo

Thanks,

Let me know how things go as far as girl friendly etc. at El Panama and how far is it from the red light area etc., just PM me.

Kid Cisco

[R Brandon]

NO NO NO, I did not mean the president.Just let ther be hair down there like it should be.rbc100

[Prolijo]

Bring back the BUSH.rbc100

GOD NO! Two terms are more than enough.

[R Brandon]

That's the girl I am looking for Chase Star Kid Cisco.
Bring back the BUSH.rbc100

[Prolijo]

I know lots of other people beside mongers that like to stay at the Prez and they wouldn't want to see some of the stuff I have seen the girls in when they are trying to eat breakfast in the morning (like having a dresses on so short that everytime the girl bend over you can see count her hairs hanging out of her her thongs (if she even have on some) LOL.

You mean to say that you've actually seen a working girl at the Prez that doesn't shave her bush down to the stubble!!??

[Lorenzo]

I went on a tour/trip like that once in South American (Brazil/Colombia/Argentina/and back to Brazil) and it almost KILLED me LOL I am gathering INTEL on Panama so if you can let me about hotels etc. On Panama that would be nice.

I'm booked at the El Panama, which appears to be a 4-star hotel. I got a special 'Government' rate which I think is about $85 a night. They say you are required to present a government ID to get this rate. Problem is I retired 2 years ago, so I'm going to present them with an ID and hope they don't notice that it expired 2-1/2 years ago. If they make an issue of it, I may have to pay the regular rate, which is about $120 a night. Hope they don't read this forum! I'll let you know what the hotel is like.

Lorenzo

[Lorenzo]

Remember me? Its sounds like you're having a great time and don't really need any advice. I know you feel like you don't have anything new to add to the info already here, but I'd really like to hear your thoughts on the comparatives of CR mongering vs. what you found in the other CA countries you've visited so far.

Your friend,
Prolijo (aka Chase Star)

Sure I remember you! You're one of the guys who gave me the most helpful advice, for which I am still grateful. Actually, you second-guessed me. I do plan to post something on comparative CA mongering after I have concluded my trip and returned to the states. I may act on your suggestion that I introduce myself to the guys here. I'll keep you posted.

Lorenzo

[Circle]

so for my last night before heading to cuba, I decided to go by New Fantasy. I didn't like the quality of girls, even if I can save a few bucks. So I thought I would go by the BM before calling my gfe from last week, just to see what the action was like.

It was a slow night, and I was just going to finish my beer and call the girl who gave me such a great time last week. I'm sitting there and this girl walks up and asks if she can sit with me. I say "sure. " I'd say this girl was a "7. 5" or so. She had great tits (which were in fact fake, but I couldn't even tell by feeling them, only by the small mark under her breast.) she had this look that said "fuck the shit out of me" and her ass was pretty nice too. However her belly wasn't as flat as I prefer. No wrinkles, just a little pouch.

The weird thing was how quickly she wanted to leave. She said her sister was waiting for her somewhere else, because she didn't like the BM. So she took me outside and her sister was walking down the sidewalk. The first girl then tried to hook me up with her sister, but this girl looked young, so I decided to ditch both of them. However her sister left for the casino so I went back into the BM with the first one. She starts telling me she wants to party in the clubs and she has to take care of her sister, so would that be a problem. I said yes, that is a problem, and if you want to go with your sister, then just go now. She says her sister is 18, so its no problem, and she will do whatever I like.

At this point I'm creeped out and excusing myself to go home. She says she wants to go with me and we don't have to take the sister, so we agree on $60 with BBBJ. Not a bad deal I figure, considering this girl is pretty damn hot. So we leave, she performs as she said, but she is obviously in a hurry to get out of there. Definately not gfe. I would have prefered my girl from last week. Oh well, live and learn.

So I'm using my own laptop now, and I'm going to try and upload some photos. I hope it works. The first two are from the girl I had at oasis. Not bad quality for the price. The last one is from jaco beach (I know, wrong section, but I just want to get this done at the same time), just in case you don't already know how "beautiful" (ha, ha) the beach there is. There's definately better beaches to hang out on.

My final thought on san jose is that, there are so many options. I haven't began to uncover them all. I'm glad I'll be returning here to catch my return flight to the US. There are lots of hot girls, and I think if you spend time on the hunt here, you will be pleasantly rewarded. Just don't pay the first hot girl you see $100 for an hour, por favor.

[Kid Cisco]

I went on a tour/trip like that once in South American (Brazil/Colombia/Argentina/and back to Brazil) and it almost KILLED me LOL I am gathering INTEL on Panama so if you can let me about hotels etc. On Panama that would be nice.

I have a friend that I just got off the phone to he has his cellphone with him it cost him it runs him $1. 49 a min for calls he is also staying at the Prez I gave him INTEl and INFO about the new dress call for the girls before he left I told him to bring and take a female weather with him so he wouldn't have any problems with the girls coming in so far so good he haven't had any problems (he NEVER had to EVEN use the sweather) he is also a low key guy and he travels like me solo.

I love the Prez and I must have stayed there over 25 times so far over the years I stayed there 5 times last year, the staff and everyone has always been cool with me and treated me with respect I do UNDERSTAND why they are making some of the girls clean up their acts the Prez isn't like the Del Ray that mostly catering to the American "monge"r, they have many tour groups staying there from all around the world that book there and they don't count on making $$ from just the gringo monger.

I know lots of other people beside mongers that like to stay at the Prez and they wouldn't want to see some of the stuff I have seen the girls in when they are trying to eat breakfast in the morning (like having a dresses on so short that everytime the girl bend over you can see count her hairs hanging out of her her thongs (if she even have on some) LOL.

I really think this is a good thing I DON'T have any problem with the Prez rules to tell you the truth I think it would work out for guys like me and Chase Star that understand why and go alone with it without trying to drum up ways to hurt a hotel that haven't done anything BUT be good to us and other mongers over the years.

Kid Cisco

[Prolijo]

To change the subject

THANK YOU!!!

Remember me? Its sounds like you're having a great time and don't really need any advice. I know you feel like you don't have anything new to add to the info already here, but I'd really like to hear your thoughts on the comparatives of CR mongering vs. what you found in the other CA countries you've visited so far.

Also, while I understand you say you're a loner, I really recommend you introduce yourself to the group of guys at the SL. They're probably CRT'ers and if so are always open and friendly to new guys. Just say "Are you guys with CRT?" or you could also try "My friend Prolijo told me to say hello" although I'm not sure if that might just cause them to start throwing beer at you (just kidding). These guys can give you all the best on-the-spot intel and can serve as good wingmen if you want to go out and check out some of the tico nightspots outside the gulch such as Kamur, Pantera Rosa, D'Pelufos, etc. I'm often a loner too, but sometimes I enjoy the company of my fellow "hobbyist" and, IMHO, nightclubs are usually more fun when done with 1-2 others (as long as there aren't a zillion of you fighting over the one decent looking girl there)

Your friend,
Prolijo (aka Chase Star)

[Lorenzo]

To change the subject: Lorenzo is finally in Costa Rica. Not that I expect anyone to remember, but late last year I sought the advice of Costa Rica mongers about trip planning. I was then planning to visit all 7 Central American countries early in 2006 on a trip lasting about a month, and I asked experienced Central American what they thought about traveling through CA by bus. I got a lot of very helpful responses, for which I publicly thanked everyone, but the response was nearly unanimous: don't do it; fly if you can. So that is exactly what I did. I could not have gotten better advice. I contacted a consolidator that specializes in Latin America, Exito, told them where and when I wanted to go, and they put together a packet of tickets covering my entire itinerary for just over $1000 (exclusive of international airfare). I got an open jaw ticket from Delta, flying into Belize City on March 10 and flying out of Panama City April 9. Exito put together the rest. My route has been and will be, Belize City-Guatemala City-Flores-Guatemala City-San Salvador-San Pedro Sula-Tegucigalpa-Managua-San Jose-Panama City. Whew! Man, am I glad I didn't take the bus. The trip has been wearying and I have not had nearly enough time to do and see all I would have liked. My idea was not to have a trip centered solely on mongering, but I hoped to monger in every country if I could and to post reports. For those who are interested, I have posted reports on Belize City, Guatemala City, San Salvador, San Pedro Sula, Tegucigalpa, and Managua. Now it's San Jose's turn. However, now that I am smack in the middle of the Mecca of Central American mongering, I suddenly feel humbled (and anyone who knows me will tell you that this is quite unusual). With all the abundance of material on the Costa Rica site, what can I possibly add that is new? Probably nothing, so if you are looking for something breathtakingly new, better move on to the next post. But if you don't mind reading one monger's impressions, read on. I think the main thing I might provide is encouragement for those who are thinking about mongering their way through Central America: it can be done.

I also asked for ideas about where to stay. From reading this forum, I had narrowed it down to the Del Rey and the Sportsmen's Lodge, and asked for advice. Again the advice was near unanimous: Sportsmen's over Del Rey. So I am now at the Sportsmen's Lodge, having checked in 2 days ago when I arrived from Managua. I'm not sorry I stayed here, butit isn't quite what I expected. It is first of all very obviously a mongering hotel. The guests are almost exclusively male. I would have dropped the 'exclusively' except that today I saw the first female guest, who was half of a couple in their 60's or older. Other than that, the guests are all American males between 40 and 70 (myself included). It is not a young monger's hotel; it's not that younger guys couldn't stay here, it just appears that they don't. It appears that a lot of these guys travel here in groups, because a lot of them seem to know each other. Yesterday I heard a bunch of guys from Atlanta getting there stories straight so they would all tell their wives the same thing. The main virtue of the Sportsmen's is that it is totally, unequivocally girl friendly. In fact, it seems to exist almost solely for that purpose. There is a bar/restaurant that has a small number of chicas hanging around, and word is that they must be pre-approved by the management before they can sit around the bar anjd lounge. The downside of Sportsmen's is that it is very noisy until midnight, when it suddenly quiets down. This is because a lot of the mongers get drunk and then get very loud. There is a lot of raucous talking, shouting, and guffawing from the bar that can be heard throughout the house. For this reason I don't think I would stay here again, but that's just me. I'm a loner and prefer quiet, but WTF, it's unabashedly girl friendly, and that's what's important.

When I arrived in San Jose I was totally spent from the trip and didn't know how much energy I would have left for mongering. I had had 9 encounters with 7 girls (two of them were repeat meetings, obviously), in addition to doing the usual tourist things like going to Ambergris Caye, Tikal, Antigua, and Leon. The day I checked in I met a young Nica morena named Carolina who had a beautiful face and kind of skinny body, just as she was leaving Sportsmen's. But there was something about her I liked that caused my exhaustion to lift. I told her that I was too tired to fuck but asked if she would provide a BBBJ. Besides, I hadn't taken a performance pill. She agreed and we went to my room. It was a total GFE: DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and I ended up briefly entering her anyway, but l let her finish me off by hand. Cost: US$40. I liked her so much that I invited her back the next day. She arrived at my room promptly at 2pm. I took a 25mg Cialis, having delayed taking it until I was sure she would show up. We then went to lunch while I waited for the pill to take effect, then went back to the room for another GFE. Two orgasms, $60. We had agreed on $50, but I liked her so much I gave her a tip. She let me take some nude pics, but I won't be able to post them until I get back to the states and upload them into my computer.

Today I made the obligatory visit to the Blue Marlin. It was much smaller than I expected, and even at 3pm it was jammed with chicas. The place turned me off, so I wandered through the casino and picked up a 37 year old Dominican chica named Juanita. We agreed on $50 for one hour and went back to Sportsmen's. Another GFE: DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS. She was even considerate enough to wash her pussy before we started. Now 37 might seem old to a lot of younger mongers, but it's just perfect for me; I'm a dirty old man who likes them with experience, and I wasn't disappointed. She was an excellent slow lover and stayed longer that the hour we had agreed on. I gave her $60, which included a $10 tip. I liked her so much that I may call her for a repeat session day after tomorrow. Tomorrow I'm going to the volcanoes and a nature park so there will probably be no mongering. I'm still undecided as to whether to go to clubs like Zona Blue and Kamur. I have cell phone numbers for both Carolina and Juanita, so if anyone is interested please PM me. And thanks again to all the guys whose sage advice made this trip in its present form possible.

Lorenzo

[Johnny Sax]

However, I'm still not quite sure you "get it". Kid Cisco does. ...
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Also if something like the mere possibility that you might have to go up to your room to get a long sleeved shirt to loan to your girl to get her in would totally ruin your evening, then maybe you're not quite as easy going as you think you are. I really think that for the most part the guys that will object to this the most will be the guys who walk around the gulch like its their personal playground and think that the Prez's business should revolve around them to the exclusion of other guests.

I respectfully disagree with you. I never said anything about being offered the opportunity to go up to my room for a long sleeve shirt. IF they were to offer me that option, I would probably accept it and not be too upset. So you are wrong about me not being mellow enough for that. What I said was that if they did NOT offer me ANY option and I had to take my girl somewhere else , instead of being comfortable in my own paid for room, I'd be very pissed and would not stay there again, and would let them know that.

I don't think this policy just pisses off "ugly American" mongers who feel other guests don't matter. I think it bothers anyone like myself who feels we are doing nothing wrong and should not be "judged" in terms of whether or not our chosen girl is "acceptable". I think it pisses guys off who feel the hotel is, on the one hand, participating in a discount program for mongers and on the other hand saying "but you may not be able to bring your guest up to your room". And I think it pisses off people who just generally don't like discrimination based on some individual's sense of what is or is not "inappropriate". I'd rather they make a truly measurable and solid dress code and then STICK TO IT, as opposed to leaving it open for some manager's or doorman's sense of what is appropriate.

I don't like the idea that a guy in San Jose', where prostitution is legal, staying at a hotel that allows guests, is going to possibly face the hassle of being told he can't bring his (credentialed!) girl back to his room, just because she has some cleavage showing or a mini-skirt on. I find the notion ridiculous. TV and billboards show as much or more; certainly movies do; and it is difficult to believe that other guests care that much. I think this new policy is an over-reaction to just one or two incidents, and instead of just chalking it up to being "part of the business", they have gone overboard and created a policy that runs counter to a large segment of their clientele, a clientele who I think probably sustains them or at least helps them quite a bit in the off season.

I still think the perfect solution is to offer a long coat at the front door, and I applaud you for that suggestion, which I posted at the CRT board.

Meanwhile, as I stated, I will wait and see how they treat fellow mongers over the next few months. That will more than likely make up my mind for me. I don't want to risk staying there and getting turned away at this point. Yes, being told I can't bring my girl in to my room would [CodeWord140] me off, if it happened, and no, I won't risk it. I'd rather stay somewhere where I KNOW there will be no problem. If over the next few months I hear of only a couple minor incidents of girls being rejected, then I will reconsider staying there.

[Prolijo]

Rebel Man, what you just posted makes no sense to me. If they didn't need or want our business, it would a far simpler and profitable policy to just start charging a guest fee to discourage it or even refuse to allow unregistered quests altogether. As it still stands they charge no guest fee AT ALL unlike even the HDR, the quintessential monger hotel.

How many people really are offended if you bring back a sexily dressed girl at 10pm-2am? I could see it maybe if this policy were enforced during daylight hours before the kids are in bed. But at nightclub hours, how many guests there really care if you quietly walk in with a girl with some cleavage showing, in mini-skirt and high heels? Really,what is the problem? Are they renting to mongers or not?

I totally agree that any abuse by the doorman should be reported, and any problems should be politely addressed with the manager the next day. Digital photos would help, if you have them. Post them here or at CRT, if you get turned down for bringing a girl in. [good idea, as we'd then have a better idea what can and can't fly]

I think the one very easy solution to this problem would be for the Prez to have a little coat closet there by the front door, and anyone the doorman feels is dressed inappropriately should be issued a trenchcoat. They could even charge a couple mil for the rental, or a 5 mil DEPOSIT once the girl is done and brings it back, the deposit is returned. The doorman could get a tip; whatever. But the idea of them issuing a long coat to wear is an excellent one and would be a way that everyone could win, here. Then no one would be denied entry, no guests would be offended, and all would be right with the world once again. Really, it's so simple. Why wouldn't they just do this? Maybe they will.

Now at least we're discussing some possible reasonable compromises rather than just railing about "principles" or threatening to throw the baby out with the bath water. However, I'm still not quite sure you "get it". Kid Cisco does. Someone SHOULD suggest that they at least restrict enforcement of this policy to normal eco-tourist waking hours. However, if this were just a problem of some older guys quietly sneaking scantily clad young girls in long after the ecotourists had gone to bed, I'm sure the mgmt of the Prez would never have felt they had to institute this policy to preserve their other business (and risk losing ours) in the first place.

Also if something like the mere possibility that you might have to go up to your room to get a long sleeved shirt to loan to your girl to get her in would totally ruin your evening, then maybe you're not quite as easy going as you think you are. I really think that for the most part the guys that will object to this the most will be the guys who walk around the gulch like its their personal playground and think that the Prez's business should revolve around them to the exclusion of other guests. Those are probably the same guys who walk in drunk and obnoxious, (you know the ugly gringo types we have all seen ourselves). The Prez probably feel if they lose those guys and keep most of the more reasonable and polite guys, their policy will have been a real success and incidents that might offend other guests will have been drastically reduced.

[Rebel Man]

I think they need to just come out and say they dont need mongers there anymore. Don't beat around the bush, (thats exactly what they are doing) so we will know one way or the other. Allow girls back to the rooms are not allow them. This is all bulls**t. I think there afraid to tell us that because they know that they would lose business.

[Kid Cisco]

I been going to the Prez for a few years now, I stayed there 5 times last year, and I think they needed to clean up the some with the many church groups that stay there and the couples (older male and females) the last thing they need to see in the morning is some 50 ish and 60ish year old broken down ***** monger holding hands with a 20 year old girl with her ass cheeks hanging from her short shorts.

Around dinner time you have almost a waiting line of mongers waiting to sign in girls making a bee line up to the rooms (this is the same time most day tours are coming and returning back as well).

I will keep on staying there and I really hope LESS AND LESS mongers with bad attiudes will go somewhere else.

I look at it this way UNTIL I or anyone else wins the lotto (and buy their own hotel) we must go along with the rules of the hotel.

Kid Cisco