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  1. #5311

    Sad to hear about the Del rey

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnySax  [View Original Post]
    My wingman was there Fri and Sat. Stayed at the Mora. I couldn't go.

    He's not into posting on this forum so I'll tell you what he told me yesterday.

    He said Friday night was "the bay of pigs" and also there were not very many girls there at all. But a high percentage of less than desirable ones.

    Nevertheless he found a red head who had a great face and body and gave him an "almost" GFE. She wouldn't tongue kiss but otherwise was very good in bed, very accommodating.

    So much so, he told her he wanted to have her again the next night. Like me, he will rarely do this, it has to be someone very desirable and good.

    So in spite of the poor selection he scored well! 2 points for the home team!

    So she showed up fairly early - 9 pm or so. On Saturday, and he was excited that maybe the 2nd time was going to be even better, since she'd be more trusting and familiar with him. As I have found to often be true, and so has he.

    But he said she was actually colder on Sat. Her heart wasn't in it. Maybe she didn't really want to come back a 2nd night but did so only for the "sure thing". He said he noted that most of the girls didn't probably go back to a room with anyone as there were more guys than girls on Saturday. Yet less people all in all on Sat. Which I find distressing, as did he. Friday was not so great and Saturday less great in terms of quantity of women. However he did say that the percentage of good looking ones was a *bit* better on Saturday.

    Anyway although this one he liked was less enthusiastic on Saturday he still had a fairly good time with her; though from what I gathered he probably now would not see her again.

    Dumb on her part, not to muster more enthusiasm. She could have had a "regular".

    Okay so here's my question to you old timers who've been coming here for years: WTF is happening? Why such lousy numbers in general and such low percentages of good looking ones vs fat or ugly ones?

    I have 2 theories:

    1) All the best looking girls are now going to Jaco' where the prices are better for the girls because the guys there are throwing around more money. More yuppy let's say. Or at least more guys with money to burn who are not even into negotiating perhaps. Leaving the less than great looking girls to stay at the Del Rey scene. This is my #1 theory of what is happening.

    Now here's another theory: (it may be a combination of both).

    2) Due to the lousy economy in Costa Rica. Cost of living higher than ever. More girls are trying out the Del Rey scene to make ends meet. This has led to more girls who really are not qualified to be pros with their looks or with their skills, but who want to give it a shot anyway, just for some $.

    Thus the lousy percentages of good looking girls and a lot of amateurs who don't even know HOW to be pros. So give lousy service. Not only has this situation itself led to less good looking girls going to the Del Rey, but also less men are now coming to Costa Rica BECAUSE of this. So it's a snowball effect: less good looking girls, thus less men coming, thus less and less business at the Del Rey.

    ** How to change this: *.

    Have a door man who is trained to let in only the better looking girls, and stop letting in the pigs.

    With a higher percentage of good looking girls maybe the monger tourism will increase again and more good looking girls will come to make some extra cash and more of the pigs will stay home!

    What do you guys think? What the eff is going on at the Del Rey in terms of numbers of quality girls?

    And is my 2nd theory a good one?
    Sad to hear about the current state of affairs in the DR. Whatever the reason, don't expect it to turn around anytime soon, if ever. I first visited the DR in the early 90's, many of you young bucks may not have been born yet. Most of the girls if not all, were Ticas. They were extremely accommodating. Me and a few buddies were staying in the Herradura near the airport, had no idea even what the gulch was or if it even had a name then. Took a very pretty tica, non pro, about 19 yrs. Back to the hotel and she did 2 of us for $25. I traveled to CR 10 times a year for a while and met a girl from PZ, I actually lived with her for about 6 months. I increasingly became disappointed in CR in general, my last visit was in 2002. What you are seeing is a trend that has been going on for a while. Less guys for sure. There are more places for the girls to go now than ever before, Jaco, as you said, also Guanacaste. And tons of other places in San Jose. One reason you are not seeing the quality girls is the DR has a stigma that most women would not be caught dead walking into. It's the beginning of the end of the DR. If you must go to CR go to PZ, go to a few bars, ask taxi guys if they know any single moms who need help. I was paying most girls around 10,000 see back then so maybe it's 20,000 C today. My advise is to venture out to new lands. Brasil, Colombia and Peru are fantastic places to hobby. Pura Vida!

  2. #5310
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnySax  [View Original Post]
    ...........a lot of amateurs who don't even know HOW to be pros. So give lousy service. Not only has this situation itself led to less good looking girls going to the Del Rey, but also less men are now coming to Costa Rica BECAUSE of this. So it's a snowball effect: less good looking girls, thus less men coming, thus less and less business at the Del Rey........
    I disagree with this theory. Being an amateur has nothing to do with service. My best sex has been with non-pros with not that much sexual experience and my worst has been with hard core pros. A woman has an in built ability to please a man unless you are looking for the experience you can get from a Japanese geisha.

  3. #5309
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    You can't look at inflation figures based on colones and then compare them to prices in US dollars without looking at the exchange rate. Fifteen years ago it was 300 and something to 1. Now it is 500 and something to 1. The coland is a consistently depreciating currency. The lesson to be learned from all of this is to never talk about dollars with chicas and only negotiate in colones.
    Nice theory, but it was 500 to 1. It has been one of the most steady currencies in the world relative to the dollar. Look it up. I never have once talked about dollars- I do the conversion.

  4. #5308

    Another reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraHappy  [View Original Post]
    May be a better idea to book a nicer hotel and then the two of you can just visit Del Rey. First, Del Rey is kind of "dumpy. " Second, it's probably not a good idea to book a room there unless your girlfriend has full disclosure regarding the venue.

    When you guys visit, head over to Key Largo across the street first (around 11 pm). Better place to get her drinks to start off with before taking her to the main hotel. Of course, if you're there before 11 pm, then, Key Largo isn't open yet.
    This is why I asked. We are staying on the other side of town in what I assume is a non chica friendly hotel. The reason I'm saying unsuspecting is because I don't think she would be too thrilled if this was all premeditated. The more I can make it appear like we stumbled upon this the better. If I can't, then it probably won't happen. What are our options on where to stay on this side of town for this purpose only?

  5. #5307
    May be a better idea to book a nicer hotel and then the two of you can just visit Del Rey. First, Del Rey is kind of "dumpy. " Second, it's probably not a good idea to book a room there unless your girlfriend has full disclosure regarding the venue.

    When you guys visit, head over to Key Largo across the street first (around 11 pm). Better place to get her drinks to start off with before taking her to the main hotel. Of course, if you're there before 11 pm, then, Key Largo isn't open yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by StatBoy  [View Original Post]
    If I show up with my unsuspecting girlfriend to Hotel Del Rey, do you think she will be approached by other men? I think she will be down to pick up a girl with enough liquid encouragement. I just don't want mongers hitting on my girl.

  6. #5306
    Quote Originally Posted by StatBoy  [View Original Post]
    If I show up with my unsuspecting girlfriend to Hotel Del Rey, do you think she will be approached by other men? I think she will be down to pick up a girl with enough liquid encouragement. I just don't want mongers hitting on my girl.
    If she is alone I am sure proposition will be made. But then if she states that she is with her BF people will leave her alone. 100% of the women in del Ray are prostitutes except for the girls who are employees.

    How can your GF ' unsuspecting '? The moment she is there she will know it is a prostitution place. Unless you lied to her saying it is a regular bar. Be honest with her. Nobody is going to molest her unless she wants it!

  7. #5305
    You can't look at inflation figures based on colones and then compare them to prices in US dollars without looking at the exchange rate. Fifteen years ago it was 300 and something to 1. Now it is 500 and something to 1. The colóand is a consistently depreciating currency. The lesson to be learned from all of this is to never talk about dollars with chicas and only negotiate in colones.

  8. #5304
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnySax  [View Original Post]
    More than ever, the Del Rey is a buyer's market. There is NO reason to give anyone cien!

    Go for 40 mil which is around $75 then use the promise of a good tip for good service to give her $85 and she'll be very happy.

    You guys with the $100 sessions are just ruining it for the rest of us. Have some mercy on those of us who don't want to throw money away for no reason!
    Sorry, but this is just silly. The same debate, cien or no cien, was live and raging in 2003. Never pay cien. Never pay cien. It might have had some value back then; that is usually what a TLN / LT cost. That was 15 year ago. 15 years.

    Check out the inflation figures during that time (here is a chart that shows the ten year rate, you can see that it was almost 20% in 2008 alone https://tradingeconomics.com/costa-rica/inflation-cpi).

    See what a price of a meal actually costs, not to mention rent and other expenses for the chicas. And cien is not the issue, for me. It is what you Get for the $100. If you have well honed negotiating skills, good selection criteria, and a bit of patience playing the game, you can increases in time / number of sessions instead of a small decrease in price. I would far rather pay 20 or 40 dollars more for a 3 or 4 hour, full GFE session than the lower amount with one pop.

  9. #5303

    When to give cien.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bearyc  [View Original Post]
    Could not have said it better!
    It is a buyers market in the Del Rey. $80 and less is appropriate for an hours service with a tip for good service as an option. When you take into account that the usual rate at MPs runs from $35 to $65 per hour and that includes the room you know what your other options are. It is your money and you are free to pay what you choose. I prefer GFE and look for women that I can spend 3 to 5 hours with. The max I pay is $150 and that equates to $30 to $50 per hour. A fair price. Jaco is a different story all together. No problem getting women there for cien but less than that risks rejection on a regular basis. The only game in town in Jaco is the Cocal. The strip club is a major rip off and no MPs. San Jose offers many more options.

  10. #5302

    Dogs will be dogs.

    Quote Originally Posted by StatBoy  [View Original Post]
    If I show up with my unsuspecting girlfriend to Hotel Del Rey, do you think she will be approached by other men? I think she will be down to pick up a girl with enough liquid encouragement. I just don't want mongers hitting on my girl.
    Is why I am sure someone will hit on her.

    But it always depends on her dress code and philosophy.

    IMHO you will easily be able to stop anything from happening if you are close to her and mind the store.

    So much choice, the dogs will move on.

  11. #5301

    Question.

    If I show up with my unsuspecting girlfriend to Hotel Del Rey, do you think she will be approached by other men? I think she will be down to pick up a girl with enough liquid encouragement. I just don't want mongers hitting on my girl.

  12. #5300

    There is no reason to give anyone cien!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnySax  [View Original Post]
    More than ever, the Del Rey is a buyer's market. There is NO reason to give anyone cien!

    Go for 40 mil which is around $75 then use the promise of a good tip for good service to give her $85 and she'll be very happy.

    You guys with the $100 sessions are just ruining it for the rest of us. Have some mercy on those of us who don't want to throw money away for no reason!
    Could not have said it better!

  13. #5299

    Short San Jose Trip (2/21 through 23).

    Guys,

    I'll be SJO for 3 days (wed to Fri.). Would love to catch up with some fellow mongers. Ping me and we can catch for a drink. I'll be staying at sportsmen lodge.

    Cheers.

  14. #5298
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnySax  [View Original Post]
    More than ever, the Del Rey is a buyer's market. There is NO reason to give anyone cien!

    Go for 40 mil which is around $75 then use the promise of a good tip for good service to give her $85 and she'll be very happy.

    You guys with the $100 sessions are just ruining it for the rest of us. Have some mercy on those of us who don't want to throw money away for no reason!
    Johnny, I hear you man, and I'm no rookie. But the two girls I paid cien to were the only diamonds in the rough, and they knew it. They'd have walked away.

    The reality is without them the entire scene is even below Tijuana standards (talent-wise). It was disheartening, and I was super-stoked to somehow find girls of that quality. And they were worth it.

    So yes, it's a buyer's market in terms of overall numbers. But a sad seller's market in terms of top-shelf talent!

    Happy mongering!

  15. #5297

    Why do you guys go for the "cien"?

    More than ever, the Del Rey is a buyer's market. There is NO reason to give anyone cien!

    Go for 40 mil which is around $75 then use the promise of a good tip for good service to give her $85 and she'll be very happy.

    You guys with the $100 sessions are just ruining it for the rest of us. Have some mercy on those of us who don't want to throw money away for no reason!

    Quote Originally Posted by JunkJock  [View Original Post]
    Hey all,

    Thanks kindly for making this forum as informative as it is. It definitely came in handy!

    Here's my contribution. I included a 'travel advice' section, and a separate 'mongering' section for those already familiar.

    Travel Advice.

    I arrived Friday (the 26th) in the morning on a red-eye. I exited the airport, went to the parking structure, took the stairs to the second floor and re-entered the Departures area. Walked all the way down to the left and found the bank (not the exchange counters) and withdrew money at the ATM. Had to pay a 3% fee which amounted to an exchange rate of 550/1 rather than the official 568/1. It was the best deal I was going to get. There were fees on top of that from my ATM card issuer (Chase), but they reversed those in a single phone call once I got back.

    I took an Interbus Shuttle from the Airport directly to the Del Rey Hotel for $10 (booked in advance). It's the best deal for convenience's sake. One the way back I would eventually take a $2 cab from the Del Rey to the Tuasa Bus Terminal and then a $1 (red) Tuasa bus to the airport. It's probably what I'd do going forward.

    The Del Rey (at about $68/ night) was way better than I expected in both facilities and staff, as was the rest of the country. I originally selected Costa Rica as my vacation spot since it made so many mongering top-ten lists. Shortly after I started telling people I was headed down, I got all the book-several-days-in-the-jungle advice. Boy am I glad I did! I spent three days in Arenal at a hostel doing some genuinely life-changing adventuring that put the (decent) mongering to shame! Costa Rica is one of the best kept tourist secrets in the world, and everyone should see it. There isn't much to San Jose beyond mongering, honestly, but you can spend a month seeing nature at it's best, and it would only get better each day.

    Mongering.

    I got sick on my first day, probably from the red-eye travel and lack of sleep, so my first Del Rey night (a Fri) was a bust. I was in no shape for action, and spending an hour walking the lobby took everything out of me. I found a natural-looking dark haired Tica named Jaehayra with a beautiful chiseled face, and a cute if not perfect body. She asked me $80 off the bat, and would be the only one to not ask $100. She even sat with me in the lobby for a half hour while I got the shakes, but I was too sick to take her up on her offer. I cringe with regret thinking about it, since she was a truly sweet and sexy girl.

    On Sat I did a scouting trip of pensions during the day from about 2 to 4 pm. I hit up IDEM (bolted shut), Relax, Pension 69, Monica's, Erotico, Little Havana, and Zona II. They all sucked. Honestly, only Relax had ONE girl I considered do-able. I'm a Tijuana veteran (the only destination I've been to in Latin America) and consider Tijuana a fairly middling spot in the global scheme. But the offering in San Jose (including most of the Del Rey) was really no better talent-wise (only logistically).

    That night (Sat) I hunkered down in the Del Rey lobby and decided to find the best diamond in the rough. I found two. Both were 22-23 year old, white Ticas, and among the most beautiful girls I've ever been with. Both had spinner bodies and rockstar faces to go with them. The first one, Anny (pronounced like Amy with an 'and') gave me near-perfect GFE sex. It included one of the best and longest, uncovered blowjobs I've had in this lifetime. We got it on in several positions for truly exerting sex that had her moaning and rubbing herself furiously, while my thighs screamed for help. It put real girlfriend sex from my past to shame LOL! When all was said and done, we spent 90 mins together in bed and in the shower. I blew two loads on her chin / chest, and we went from sensual fondling to Game Of Thrones worthy romping and back again. I ended up giving her 60,000 colones, a bit more than the $100 she originally asked for, and didn't budge from.

    Afterwards I discovered her friend Kimberly, the other aforementioned gem, who had quite a bit of tattoos (not a fan) but still plenty of talent to burn. I agreed to the same $100 as she was that fine-looking, but the sex wasn't nearly as inspired. She had far more rules and wouldn't get nearly as into it, but she was so hot it almost didn't matter. It's the reason I'm such a stickler to top-notch looks in the mongering world. When all else fails, it's the only guaranteed return. I blew one load rubbing against her tight ass in the shower, and managed to walk away satisfied.

    I mongered in San Jose again the following Wed (the 31st) after returning from the jungle. I checked out the Del Rey lobby (where the kindly bellman Oscar watched over my luggage) at about noon. There was one stellar hottie named Yvonne who looked like a genuine 18/19-yo. She spoke Spanish only and wanted $100 for a single-shot romp. Since I didn't have my Del Rey room anymore (was heading to airport later) I offered to take her to Hotel Asia around the corner in my barely-there Spanish. She didn't seem enthused and I stopped wasting my time. What really soured me was some unshaven leg-hair though the hole in her jeans. No clearer sign of a poor attitude.

    I did another short pension-circuit, hitting up Monicas, Erotico, Pension Erotica #3, Pension 69, IDEM (still shut) and finally Relax, where once again there was one decent girl. This one was a Nica named Laura (La-ooh-ra) with a pretty and wholesome face, and a decent body marred only by unfortunate belly stretch marks (oh well.) For the $31 I spent total it was a bargain, and I rushed it way more than she ever could (I needed to catch a plane).

    In the overall it was a worthwhile mongering trip, but still paled in comparison to the rest of my Costa Rican experience. Even a small lick of Spanish did indeed help, BTW. I would certainly make a repeat visit, but not if it was solely for mongering. Despite the incredible sex I had with Anny, and the other reasonable experiences, the scene wouldn't rank as a world-class mongering spot in my mind. But to each his own. Otherwise, everyone should see Costa Rica once in their lifetimes!

    Thanks for reading, happy hobbying, and stay safe!

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