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10-26-07 21:58 #980
You're right that most of those organized daily activities cost on the order of $70 or more. It is possible to do SOME of them on the cheap, but it takes a lot more effort and time. For example, instead of going in a tourist shuttle van you can take the public bus to visit the nearby volcanos but because of connections, stops and schedules it will probably take up most of the day just to see each site, whereas you could easily combine 2-3 places in the same amount of time with one organized tour. Other things like whitewater rafting or zip-lines you can do by going to the place yourself as opposed to being picked up at your hotel but you won't save much money. And like I said before, even if you don't mind paying the full cost of organized tours, there are only so many interesting things that you can do as day tours out of SJ. To fill your time with something other than just mongering, you'll probably need to get out of SJ at some point. But, if you also want to get in at least a little mongering everyday, with the exception of Jaco, that will probably mean having to bring a chica with you whereever you go.
BTW, I was in El Sal a couple of months ago and loved the place and barely saw any other gringos. However, I don't think you necessarily have to choose between the two. With that much time, what I'd suggest you do if you really want to check out SJ is to visit both. Visit SJ first and stay there as long as you find it worthwhile. Depending on how much time is left over, maybe find a chica that you can take with you to Arenal and the hot springs and/or maybe check out Playa Flamingo or one of the other Guanacaste beaches next (giving the chica busfare back to SJ at some point), catch a local bus for the border and maybe check out San Juan del Sur on the way to Managua, a side trip to Granada, and a final long bus ride to San Salvador (skip Tegoose if you're interested in mongering). Or you could just take the direct bus from SJ to Managua and then on to San Sal. If you don't spend too much time in SJ, you could even extend your trip to wind up in Guatemala.
I managed a similar month-long trip over this past summer for just $50/day (including hotels, meals, buses and daily activities but not chica costs or airfare)
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10-26-07 21:30 #979
Originally Posted by prolijo
thank you for taking the time to respond. i usually wouldnt consider someplace like costa rica but after looking over the lists and posts for calle 6 action etc. it got my attention.
how much are those outdoor activities from san jose ? i like to do things like that but usually they cost $70 and up and my daily expenses skyrocket.
i enjoyed my time in sosua this summer although i agree its going to the dogs.
i guess i need to put forth the effort into an el salvador expedition.
thanks again for your response.
artisttyp
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10-26-07 21:15 #978
artisttyp,
as much as i'm personally a big fan of cr, imho, i'd have to say that i think you'll probably get tired with sj after so long a stay. of course, others may disagree and i can definitely respect that. in fact, i could very well be wrong. what appeals to each person is a very individual thing, so it is hard to say whether what works for each of us will necessarily work for the next guy. however here is why i think you might be disappointed with sj:
1) this is not your first foreign mongering trip. cr appeals greatly to mongers that haven't been elsewhere. compared to the us for mongering, it is paradise and it is a very easy user-friendly place for someone without a wealth of foreign experience. its might also be great if you've checked out other places but you begin to realize that it is not the only great place.
2) you don't like hanging out with a lot of other gringos and cr probably gets a much higher concentration of gringos than any of those other places you mentioned. the main places to go will be very much like the main places in jaco in terms of the pervacity if gringos. the good news is that there are places to go in sj where you can get off the usual gringo path and enjoy decent p4p right in your price range. but whether that would satisfy you or you'd be climbing the walls after 2 weeks, only you can say.
3) one of the big advantages of cr is that it is so close to the us. this makes it cheap enough and quick enough to get to that it becomes practical to visit for just a short trip of even a long weekend. that advantage becomes less important when you amortize your airtime and airfare over the course of a 25 day vacation. with that amount of time to play with you could travel just about anywhere, including places like the far east or eastern europe or south america and with the local costs in many of those places being so much cheaper than cr it could very easily wind up costing you much less even with the higher cost of airfare.
4) personally, i like doing non-monger things as well. you and others may be different but doing nothing but mongering for 25 days straight would have me climbing the walls. one of the nice things about cr is that there are many other interesting things to see and do besides just mongering, including many that can be done right out of sj. imho, one could fill 25 days in cr fairly easily but if you tie yourself down to just sj then you'd be scraping the bottom of the barrel well before 2 week were up.
anyway, that is my take.
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10-26-07 20:58 #977I was simply responding to DR Monger II's report with what I thought were perfectly reasonable conclusions based on that report. Excuse me for expressing my take on what was reported about some chica in SJ that you don't even know. At least, unlike you two dickheads, I WASn't casting any negative judgements on a fellow forum member here. Originally Posted by Member #2964
Now, the fact that this happened in the parking lot of the Key Largo makes this a somewhat different story, but the ultimate significance for us isn't all that different. Was the woman in this story "a bad woman or doing something wrong"? Well, she may not have been one of the drugged out street persons that hang out in the dark corners of Morazon Park late at night but its a pretty good guess that she was one of the chicas that work at either the BM or KL. Of course, there is also all sorts of street riff-raff that hang out on that side of KL too. But let's say she was one of the working girls. Does any of that make her "a bad person"? I'm not going to cast any value judgements on chicas based on the simple fact that they make their living turning tricks (nor was I when I was simply stating a person was in a place at a time when they had no good reason for being there). But I'd still have to wonder why this particular chica was hit. Was it the type of robbery/mugging that we're all concerned about and discussing here or was it something else? That seems to be a pretty public space for something like that to go down. Though it may not be unheard of to be robbed in such plain sight, usually the crooks wait until you're further away before they make their move. Also 6 shots "mostly connecting" seems like a pretty extreme and purposeful reaction to someone just resisting a simple robbery. Of course I could be wrong, but this sounds like something a LOT more personal and intentional than just some random robbery. A lot of these chicas have a lot of drama going on their lives. Some are involved in drugs. Some have jealous and/or violent tico novios or esposos. And a few can be pretty violent themselves. This is not the type of violence that is probably going to be directed at any of us. OTOH, I wouldn't want to be anywhere around any of that drama while the bullets are flying. What might have happened to the bullets that missed their mark if one of us happened to be passing by at the same time?
Was this poor girl "bad" for simply being there or possibly resisting a robbery? Absolutely not. But it seems to be a real possibility that she must have been somehow involved with the shooter to be so deliberately targeted and if that was the case it does raise some questions as to how "good" a person she really is herself or at least whether she "was doing something wrong" to get so involved with someone that would do something like that.
2964,
With the type of sarcasm and obnoxiousness that BOTH you and 2666 often display in tandem, I often have to wonder if you "two" aren't really just the same guy. But I guess only 2964 & 2666 "can know for sure". For some reason, based on these and earlier posts, both of you seem to have some real bug up your ass about me. Well, now you know the feeling is mutual, dickwads.
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10-26-07 20:04 #976Who is really showing their ignorance? The "certain" hour in question is not just any time of day but in the middle of the night in a park that has long been known as a risky area even earlier in the evening (hence the need for a special police patrol). But even the police abandon the park after a certain hour. And this wasn't just "those" out at a certain hour but a single woman. It would be dangerous enough for a guy to pass through that park at that hour, for a single female it is downright crazy. Originally Posted by Member #2666
What possible reason would there be for a single woman to be in the park at that hour? That time of night is long after any stores in the area have shut down and long after buses stop running. Even if they live in an apartment or house somewhere near there, if they have any sense they aren't about to simply go for a stroll in some dark and dangerous local park at that time of night. In the latin culture, "nice girls" don't go out unaccompanied and certainly not to shady areas like Morazon Park or shady bars like those in the immediate area or nearby Gringo Gulch. Even the pro's who work near there at places like the KL, take cabs from the curb out front rather than risk walking home through the park. And if a local girl was out somewhere else with their novios or amigas and had to pass the park on their way home, they'd similarly take a cab to their door. No, the only women you'll see in Morazon Park at that hour will be either homeless streetgirls who are used to hanging out in a crowd of drug dealers and glue sniffers, trannies (if you can call them women) or perhaps some chica and her foolish gringo john, who was too cheap to spring for a cab. No one has any business being in that park at that time of night except possibly to pass through it as rapidly as possible because at that time of night the only business going on there is by the trannies, drug dealers and muggers.
You may call me an ignorant fool "at best" who "takes the cake" and thats alright with me because I've always thought you were an argumentative arrogant asshole anyway who is usually full of shit (what was that saying about opinions being like assholes?). So I really don't much care about anything you have to say. If you think any woman has any good reason to hang out in Morazon Park at 1 in the morning you're an even more ignorant fool than I.
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10-26-07 19:55 #975
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Originally Posted by Artisttyp
Can anyone respond to this..thanks ?
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10-26-07 19:50 #974
Wrong again
Originally Posted by DR Monger II
Guys get it stright. Six shots were fired at a woman in the parking lot of the Key Largo.
A lot of you know the space; right between the DR and the dance floor of the KL.
Most of the shots connected and the woman fell dead to the pavement with mutable bullet holes in her head.
Was she a bad woman or doing something wrong? Only Prolijo can know for sure.
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10-26-07 17:34 #973
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10-26-07 17:12 #972 Originally Posted by Prolijo
I respect the notion that we are all entitled to our opinions but you take the cake with this ignorant statement.
The presumption that those out before or after a certain hour are doing something they shouldn't be doing is foolish at best.
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10-26-07 16:53 #971
This was a revenge thing
Somebody who knew her whereabouts laid for her.
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10-26-07 16:40 #970
I'd have to ask what a woman was doing out in Morazon Park at 1 in the morning anyway. Was she one of the street people that just hang out there all the time? At the very least, she probably was involved in some sort of business that she shouldn't have been.
Walking straight, quickly and determinedly through and keeping a really wide distance from anyone who might be hanging out there, will usually get you through safely even at that hour. However, there is really no good reason to walk through Morazon Park at that hour of night unless you're staying at the Holiday Inn (which has chica fees even higher than the Balmoral). If you're staying at the Amon Plaza, Casa Vino, Dunn Inn, Inca Real, Brittania or even Zona Blue it makes much more sense to take a cab at that hour. If you're staying east of those places at the Hemmingway, Castillo, SL or Amistad, you can easily skirt Morazon Park but you'll have to contend with the Park Espana area, which as I said before can be even more dangerous. Unless you're an extremely alert, street-saavy foolhardy risktaker like myself, you're probably best advised to take a cab late at night to those places too.
And if you're taking home a chica practically anywhere, don't make yourself look like a cheap dickhead, spring the buck for a cab and escort her back or pay for her cab when you're done. You've probably just paid anywhere from $40 to, God forbid, $100 for your session so what is an extra couple of bucks.
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10-26-07 16:07 #969
Morazon ParK
There was a recent crime in the past weeks, a woman was killed in Morazon Park at 1am in the morning. Becareful.
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10-26-07 15:48 #968No problem Dave. I think that is a very common phenomenon. Its difficult not to have a wonderful time the first time you go to CR and that "glow" very often seems to rub off on just about everything you wind up doing. Anyway, I'm sure you did have an excellent stay at the Balmoral and that other first timers would be happy there as well. I just think that one can do even better. Originally Posted by David Lasker
Now as for "a cheap hotel with similar local as the Balmoral, but with no chica fees and included breakfast", the closest thing I can think of would be the Presidente right across the street. Other than that, there are few if any chica friendly hotels in that general area that include as good of a breakfast as the Prez. I personally like the Castillo which is right next door to the Hemmingway, but the breakfast they serve, while adequate is not one of their strong points, but they have nice reasonably priced rooms, great service, no chica fee and a great location. I usually just grab some of their fresh fruit or, for a lousy 1000c or $2, go out for a tico breakfast somewhere else. The Morazon, which I already mentioned, doesn't include breakfast and charges $3 per chica, but even if you add $2-3 for breakfast and $3 per chica to their $35/nt it comes out waayy less than those other places. And there you really can still just walk from the HDR/BM since it is no farther from the BM than is the KL.
The Hemmingway is certainly another option. I don't know much about it myself, though I know some guys stay there so it must be chica friendly. I've heard the rooms are kinda small and not so great, so for the money I'd probably stay at the Morazon, which also has relatively small and so-so rooms too, but is probably the best monger budget option if you want to stay in the heart of the Gulch.
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As for crime/security, the beggars are mainly a real irritation. Unfortunately they're impossible to completely avoid (even if you take cabs) because they mostly hang out directly in front of the HDR. BTW, never take one of the cabs parked outside the HDR as they'll charge you double the usual rate. Always flag down a passing taxi off the street. Anyway back on the beggars, the real problem with them in my book is that they can serve as distractions while more dangerous characters move in. Similarly walking with a chica in that area late at night can be just as bad if it draws your attention away from what you should be paying attention to. Plus, it eliminates your best defense if trouble ever approaches which is to simply run away (unless you don't mind leaving the chica to fend for herself). Besides, many chicas don't wear the best shoes for negotiating SJ sidewalks (heck, I've been known to stumble on some of the larger cracks and gaps and I don't wear high heels) so taking a cab even a really short distance can be a cheap and chivalrous thing to do. The worst crime seems to occur walking down the hill from the HDR towards Avenida Central. If you hang out on the balcony at the NY Bar, you will have front stage seating to all the muggings. Another risky spot is at the bus stop at the corner, as the muggers have been known to use the crowds to hide in right before they jump out and make their move. Since buses stop running some time by mid-evening, the danger is obviously not limited to late night or to when the streets are more desolate. These guys can be pretty brazen. It might be a little safer walking in the direction of the Morazon and turning left to go to the Balmoral that way, but any of the streets in that immediate area can be pretty dangerous after dark. A highly popular monger named Circus in a well-known incident was actually attacked and robbed by a band of trannies right in front of the Morazon (and of course the bouncers just inside the door in plain view did absolutely nothing while all that was going on).
Heading north towards the hotels in barrio Amon (e.g. Hemmingway, Castillo, SL, etc.) can be dangerous too. Morazon ParK has a particularly bad reputation but is not nearly as bad as it once was. They have police patrols at least in the early evening. BTW, one tip for park safety is that if it is a "kissing park", ie you can see young couples sitting together in the evening on park benches, then it is probably pretty safe to walk through, as is Morazon in the early evening. Later at night it is more dicey but at least is pretty wide open so that you can see and avoid any suspicious looking characters that might be hanging out there. The nearby Park Espana always gives me more pause since it has many more trees and thus places for bad guys to hide. Never walk through there later at night after the couples have all gone home. You also have to watch out about getting too close to the tranny prostitutes that come out after dark all over the areas north of Morazon Park. I give them a wide berth and they've always left me completely alone (except 1 time when one of them flashed his surprisingly rather nice set of fake tits at me
) but they've been known to swarm guys and pickpocket wallets and watches while their buddies groped the victim to distract him. Personally, I think those types are far easier to avoid than the punks who try to sneak up on you. But the safest way to avoid any of this, especially for a newbie, is to not walk at all in those areas after dark.
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10-26-07 05:26 #967
San Jose July report
My July Trip report
Day 0 & 1
After some research on this forum and advice from my BA I decided that the only place to stay was SL. I arrived in Sanjose on a rainy Sunday afternoon by an US airways flight. Took a cab to SL and settled in. I had my dinner and headed out to DR and to be honest I was a nervous wreck. I met Jim at the roulette table and he kind of explained how things work and even picked out a girl for me, negotiated the rate $80 for 2 hrs and sent me on my way. Her name was Angela she was a 9 on my book. I don’t know a word of Spanish and communicating was bit difficult but once we got to the room it wasn’t necessary. She had a great attitude started with a BBBJ and did multiple positions except for anal. I really liked her and offered her $200 for the whole night but she refused and had to get back to her baby. I walked her to the cab and that was my night. Next morning I had some emergency work to do so couldn’t leave my room except for breakfast and was tied to my Laptop. At about 3 pomp I was at the bar and I met Stan. I have to say I was very lucky to meet him. After few minutes he and I headed out to ZB. When we got there he pulled a girl aside and said she is the best in here and I have to go with her. I took his advice went to the "massage" room and boy I have no shame in saying that was the best sex in my life. Her name was Pamela and I later learnt that she is like a superstar of ZB. That night I picked out a girl from HDR. She was ok. Sorry I don’t remember the names anymore it’s been three months.
Day 2 & 3
I was slammed with more work couldn’t do much but still found time to hook up with couple of beautiful ladies from SL and did a threesome. Thanks to Stan for introducing them. They had an excellent attitude and I was very satisfied. Visited Bar Idem and a girl I picked out were really bad. $50 down the drain.
Day 4 & 5
Went to ZB in the afternoon and had a great session with Andrea. Just hung out at HDR played some chips and took a tica home. The following day left Sanjose in the AM and reached home after 30 hr flights.
All in all this was an excellent adventure for me and I am going to Thailand next month and will be back in CR Dec/Jan. SL, HDR, ZB and Bar Idem pretty much did it for me. SL Brotherhood helped me out a lot and I don’t think I would have enjoyed the trip as much if I had not stayed at SL.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.
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10-26-07 04:49 #966
to Prolijo:
Thanks for the intel on the Balmoral, I am glad to have dicovered someone like yourself that I can get info from.
Although my report on the Balmoral was positive, it may have been quite biased since it was my first trip to CR. I had such a great experience that I guess I just equated my great trip with the Balmoral. I still think the Balmoral is ok for first timers.
What would be a cheap hotel with similar local as the Balmoral, but with no chica fees and included breakfast. How is the Hemmingway?
Also, please expand upon the crime near the Balmoral that I seemed to have missed. Perhaps your info will help me, and others, to be more aware during visits to the area. The only problem I had when walking from Del Rey to Balmoral was the kids asking for coin and sleeping in front of the door to the ATM. No big deal. I was walking back and forth between Balmoral and Del Rey at like 3 am with ticas on several occasions.
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