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[Jmioffe]

I've got some business in San Diego in a few weeks and am thinking I might like to try some P4 P in Tijuana.

If you guys could do a check on my thinking, I'the be really grateful! I've mongered a lot overseas, but the one previous trip I took to Tijuana, I just sat in HK for a bit, watched a less show, and decided to call it a day. The talent in HK was pretty good, it was just too much of a circus for me.

I really enjoyed the tacos on the corner, the gastropark and Caesar's though.

A year after COVID hit, I'm thirsting for human touch and thought with this trip I'the try again.

Some people suggested the escort scene for something quieter. I looked at cumintj though, and the talent wasn't to my liking. I'm not too keen on the round Latina faces or only choosing between Gorditas and Flacas, so the only ones that are to my taste were Antonella and Corinthia.

I also looked at Musas Tijuana though, and was impressed by the talent there. My first two questions:

- Why is Musas Tijuana generally cheaper than cumintj, even though it seems the talent is better?

- There are some detailed reviews in the Musas forum. Can I take them seriously or are they a fraud?

If I was going to hire Musas talent, they say they don't go to the Zone Norte hotels or Airbnbs, only certain hotels and motels and since I'm walking across the border, I think my best best is to get a room at Ticuan. More questions:

- Are there any other hotels I should consider?

- What kind of guest fee should I expect to pay at Ticuan? Double it for two girls?

- What is the procedure I should follow? Meet her in the lobby? Tell the front desk I'm expecting a friend?

- The rooms don't seem that different in the Ticuan. I think I'll go with the base one. Should I get a double bed — so I can sweat up one and sleep in the other? Or will that look weird to the girl, and I should just get the single room with the bigger bed?

I think I'm also going with Ticuan instead of Cascadas because.

- It's slightly cheaper ($69 vs $75 for arriving on a Sunday afternoon).

- I'm sensitive to noise, and I fear the cheap rooms at Cascadas are thumping all night.

- I can try a short-term rental at Cascadas if I find a HK girl that I like.

So my questions are: How much is a Cascadas short term rental these days?

- can I bring girls from other clubs like Adelitas, or street girls, inside?

- is the VIP card still worth it if I don't stay at Cascadas, or should I consider one if I take a girl from HK?

- How much is the entry to HK these days? I know at some times of day I need to buy a drink (for how much?) but is it free to enter otherwise? Is this the same for the other clubs?

- If I'm coming on a Sunday afternoon and leaving on a Monday, when should I expect it to be busy and when should I expect it to be dead?

Thanks!

[LuvMexicanas]

For me this is 100% true. I'm not interested in "civilian" women anymore, and have not been so for a couple of decades now. There's no going back for me, I'm happy with my choice, and I'm not going to let anybody tell me that I'm wrong, or that I shouldn't be happy, or that something is wrong with me. No, something is wrong with society that would rather that I be miserable and unhappy, especially if somebody can sell me something in the process! No sir, I get to define my own happiness!

Plus you're supporting single moms which is noble in my mind.

[The Cane]

I saw this video on you tube from this dating coach about how once you go down the escort hooker route it's almost impossible to go back to normal girls.

For me this is 100% true. I'm not interested in "civilian" women anymore, and have not been so for a couple of decades now. There's no going back for me, I'm happy with my choice, and I'm not going to let anybody tell me that I'm wrong, or that I shouldn't be happy, or that something is wrong with me. No, something is wrong with society that would rather that I be miserable and unhappy, especially if somebody can sell me something in the process! No sir, I get to define my own happiness!

[WombatEd2]

An example of a trafficked woman is a woman who is kidnapped by the trafficker and forced to be a prostitute. A trafficked woman could also be a woman who is promised by the trafficker a non-prostitution job such as a waitress, cook or cleaner and is forced against her will to work as a prostitute.

A woman who agrees to work as a prostitute is controlled by a pimp.

A few years ago, I saw an article by a self-proclaimed anti-trafficking activist, claiming that the SuperBowl was contributing to a spike in sex trafficking. Her rationale went like this:

As the SuperBowl drew near, there was a spike in the number of sex ads on CraigsList. And as we all know, anybody in a sex ad on CraigsList is obviously a sex slave being trafficked by bad guys.

I don't claim to know how prevalent sex trafficking really is, but I usually can recognize when somebody is trying to feed me a ration of bullshit.

[Phordphan]

A good tactic that criminal defense attorneys have shared is to simply ask the girl for nude modeling. There is nothing illegal about that and a working girl will catch your drift. Once in the room, have her get naked because no undercover cop will do that. A female undercover cop would most likely try to end the engagement before ever going to your room so she can continue trying to bust some other John.

I have read similar. Photography and pornography, in and of themselves, are First Amendment protected speech. Paying for sex is illegal, but paying people to screw in front of the camera is not. Go figure. But, yes, you're not looking for sex, you're a freelance photog who shoots pretty women for his private collection. Want to do some modeling? A cop won't leave her area to go off with some rando dude. A real working girl will.

[One Eyed Man]

Given this video was from a "dating coach" that's trying to sell you his services I watched this video with a skeptical eye. While I agree if you only use escorts and give up on regular dating you will have some cost to pay for that but the vast majority of guys aren't doing that. Most guys are still involved in the dating scene (if they are single or cheating) or with their significant other if they have a wife / girlfriend already so this decline he speaks of can easily be avoided by simply not going escort only which probably very few here will advise. I'd also so some of us may even see being able to pull women in our regular dating life that look like some of the best escorts we've bang as a challenge to aspire to which means we know there are things we need to work on to accomplish that.

While the video is intended to drive traffic to his for-pay website, he does make some good points, many of which hit close to home. If you have the resources, why go to the gym or bother to get to know and deal with women, when you can just pay for it?

One big red flag: a real cowboy doesn't wear his cowboy hat indoors.

[LuvMexicanas]

Saw a recent YouTube video from a guy who posted video of hookers from Zona Norte and Figueroa Street in LA. Was crazy when he was negotiating with the girls all the girls asked to see the guys dick. I guess cops won't show their dick. Sounds like a great way to vet customers. Can guys ask to see the girls pussy? Sounds like a good way to vet possible police?

G.

A good tactic that criminal defense attorneys have shared is to simply ask the girl for nude modeling. There is nothing illegal about that and a working girl will catch your drift. Once in the room, have her get naked because no undercover cop will do that. A female undercover cop would most likely try to end the engagement before ever going to your room so she can continue trying to bust some other John.

[Turgid]

An example of a trafficked woman is a woman who is kidnapped by the trafficker and forced to be a prostitute. A trafficked woman could also be a woman who is promised by the trafficker a non-prostitution job such as a waitress, cook or cleaner and is forced against her will to work as a prostitute.

A woman who agrees to work as a prostitute is controlled by a pimp.

[SeaBeeJoe]

Looks like states are stepping up on sex stings recently:

https://www.wlwt.com/article/ohio-ag...sting/37849346

WLWT Updated: 12:39 PM EDT Oct 4, 2021 Infinite Scroll Enabled COLUMBUS, Ohio .

Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost announced Monday that 161 men were arrested and 51 potential human trafficking victims were helped as part of a statewide anti-human trafficking operation.

The anti-human trafficking sting titled "Ohio Knows" took place over the course of a week, resulting in the arrest of 161 men who solicited sex, three of whom were trying to solicit sex from a minor, Yost said.

It was the largest sting in the history of Ohio to date..

What Sad men will do for sex in America. Better to go to Tijuana, it is legal there.

[BrockStar]

Did any of the other Zona Norte regulars notice how quiet it was this weekend? If so, anyone know why?

Saturday I arrived in the zone just before 1 am and hit Tropical first and I couldn't help noticing that I was able to grab a table next to the main dance floor, which never happens on the weekends unless its super late. Not only that, but aside from the guys sitting at tables w / gals at the West end the rest was pretty empty. At least for a Saturday. After that beer I went to Chicago and spent a couple of hours there drinking, slipping in 20 P notes here and there and once again it was pretty dead. The whole night felt more like a Wednesday / Thursday than it did a weekend.

Sunday afternoon the only club that had more than a dozen gals was Hong Kong and even Hong Kong didn't have as many women working as they normally do at that time and a lot of empty tables on the first floor. It was so chill in Hong Kong that I actually sat w / a gal over a ladydrink, I don't remember her name, but not the typical HK gal. All natural, girl next door more than a stunner. Spoke no English, but she let my hands wander and wander they did! Sitting with her got me worked up so I split after finishing my beer and got me an SW.

Overall, it was more odd than unpleasant being so dead. Granted I didn't step foot in either HK or Adelita, but I assume they were busy, but they're always busy.

[Gregyyr]

Rambo,

These are words of the wise.

If the bros pursue any illegal activities involving prostitution in major metropolitan areas, like street hookers. Massage parlors or web sites escorts, eventually they will be caught in police stings.

About early 2000's, a guy I know worked in managerial level at a Fortune 50 industrial company in LA, employing tens of thousands workers. On Friday paydays street hookers would line the major streets around the factories in that blighted industrial area, not residential, at lunch time and into the night. The guy went out to lunch and spotted a slutty-looking young girl hanging out near a motel. He stopped the car to offer her a "ride" and was quickly surrounded, man handled, cuffed up in a police van with a dozen other workers, a few even knew him at work.

The local police did not have evidence that he actually offered money for sex or took aany furtherance act for prostitution but they arrested and booked him anyway..

Saw a recent YouTube video from a guy who posted video of hookers from Zona Norte and Figueroa Street in LA. Was crazy when he was negotiating with the girls all the girls asked to see the guys dick. I guess cops won't show their dick. Sounds like a great way to vet customers. Can guys ask to see the girls pussy? Sounds like a good way to vet possible police?

G.

[Member #4730]

Can anyone list out all the bars (including smaller ones) that have a VIP room option in Zona Nortre. I'm only familiar with Tropical, HK & Chicago and mostly Tropical.

Tropical is $45 for 30 minutes, which is the length I prefer. Though you always get extra time anyway. HK girls are too stuck up for VIP & Chicago only has an hour for $80.

Are you referencing the small private rooms in Miami club in HK? I think it was $20-25 and seems like 15 min. Maybe shorter. All the ones I've asked were down to go to the private rooms. One even popped out vibrators and was surprised when the knock came as she was just getting started. The one that got away. She was young from GDL and smelled amazing, but as usual, I seem to always catch them after I've done long sessions with a regular.

[Rainman306]

Can anyone list out all the bars (including smaller ones) that have a VIP room option in Zona Nortre. I'm only familiar with Tropical, HK & Chicago and mostly Tropical.

Tropical is $45 for 30 minutes, which is the length I prefer. Though you always get extra time anyway. HK girls are too stuck up for VIP & Chicago only has an hour for $80.

[Lefeu]

..I walked in at San Ysidro 3 weeks ago and they barely glanced at my passport before waving me through. YMMV...

I crossed into Mexico on Wednesday and Thursday for the evenings, with a wingman who lives in San Diego. This fellow never carries a passport with him, and he loves to cross with the locals. He talked me into crossing with him in the Mexican line. It was a breeze, as nobody paid attention to us. He also convinced me to take a local bus for 75 cents. I took the bus only once, as I prefer taking a taxi.

[Dogers69]

Looks like states are stepping up on sex stings recently:

https://www.wlwt.com/article/ohio-ag...sting/37849346

WLWT Updated: 12:39 PM EDT Oct 4, 2021 Infinite Scroll Enabled COLUMBUS, Ohio .

Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost announced Monday that 161 men were arrested and 51 potential human trafficking victims were helped as part of a statewide anti-human trafficking operation.

The anti-human trafficking sting titled "Ohio Knows" took place over the course of a week, resulting in the arrest of 161 men who solicited sex, three of whom were trying to solicit sex from a minor, Yost said.

It was the largest sting in the history of Ohio to date.

"People who traffic other humans are doing it for a really simple reason money. And if there's no demand then there will be no market," Yost said Monday morning during a press conference at the Statehouse...

Most of these woman that take the help for being trafficked are going to be Asian woman without papers. So of course they take the help. 1st they will be given shelter some spending money, working papers, and eventually citizenship. And of course. Nothing stops them from getting that whole process going, and at the same time doing this kind of work when they want to again. Sure better than getting arrested. I've read articles about nyc Asian woman who went into this program and got papers and returned to this life because who wants to work for 15 dollars an hour when you can make 300 to 400 a day.