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[LuvMexicanas]

I don't know about DonCarlos' pattern of mongering visits.

But I do know numerous mongers who live in or near San Diego (close to the border) and they make four, five, sometimes as many as six day trips to La Zone every week. They might visit LZ 200 to 250 times a year and often carpool together.

I'd go at least twice a week if I lived within an hour of Tijuana.

[ScatManDoo]

Possibly if going almost every single day.

I wonder if they could keep that up for 10 years straight.

Hargrow comes to mind. Seems that he went several times a week sometimes.

Back in 2006 another monger (who visited daily 5 days a week when he would complete his graveyard shift) visited La Zona, driving in daily everyday at 8:30 AM. His Tijuana Amigos handle was JTULL2 and he introduced me (during the two years we hung together) to more than a dozen other mongers that were in LZ on nearly a daily basis. Some I no longer see in La Zona, others I still regularly see there when I visit. I probably go to La Zona five or six times a year (average trip length 4 or 5 days long) and some of these dudes I touch base with on every trip down. Many keep regular rooms at Leyva or HDS that they rent on a monthly basis, yet they have regular jobs & homes in San Diego County.

[MongerHunger]

I don't know about DonCarlos' pattern of mongering visits.

But I do know numerous mongers who live in or near San Diego (close to the border) and they make four, five, sometimes as many as six day trips to La Zone every week. They might visit LZ 200 to 250 times a year and often carpool together.

Possibly if going almost every single day.

I wonder if they could keep that up for 10 years straight.

Hargrow comes to mind. Seems that he went several times a week sometimes.

[ChinaMan360]

And you and Chinatown are giving credibility to the authorities of Tijuana. Now let's talk about who is pulling stuff out of their behinds.

Would you like to try to rephrase this again LOL?

[ScatManDoo]

If you made a trip every week for 13 years straight it still wouldn't even be 700 trips. I don't buy it.

I don't know about DonCarlos' pattern of mongering visits.

But I do know numerous mongers who live in or near San Diego (close to the border) and they make four, five, sometimes as many as six day trips to La Zone every week. They might visit LZ 200 to 250 times a year and often carpool together.

[DramaFree11]

Hi All,

While Covid is on everyone's mind, let's keep this forum alive with what it is intented for, sharing info and experiences of mongering. All who opine about data and share links of virus news are, at best, guessing. It's Novel for a reason. How it will play out will be determined in time. For those who are not concerned, that is perfectly fine. For those who are concerned, that is also perfectly fine. All a matter of choice. But leave the covid news (and its political opinions) out. We all have access to info and will seek it out ourselves.

If you're able to go hunt, please send us some reports, pics, etc. If you're locked down share some interesting old trip reports.

Happy Hunting.

Well Said. Hopefully we can get back to some normalcy soon.

[CheckMate1]

Hi All,

While Covid is on everyone's mind, let's keep this forum alive with what it is intented for, sharing info and experiences of mongering. All who opine about data and share links of virus news are, at best, guessing. It's Novel for a reason. How it will play out will be determined in time. For those who are not concerned, that is perfectly fine. For those who are concerned, that is also perfectly fine. All a matter of choice. But leave the covid news (and its political opinions) out. We all have access to info and will seek it out ourselves.

If you're able to go hunt, please send us some reports, pics, etc. If you're locked down share some interesting old trip reports.

Happy Hunting.

[Turgid]

Why can't they open a place like campo allegre in curacao? This is perfect to keep social distance.

In Campo every man who enters the establishment can copulate with any girl in the place so where's the social distancing? There's no such thing as social distancing in the p4p environment.

[ScatManDoo]

There's definitely an unknown, unexplainable transition factor, like how it killed so many so quick in Italy.

People watching real news (not fake news from the Fox network) know the explanation for that. Italy's medical system was overwhelmed.

On 31 January, the Italian government (as well as the United States Government) suspended all flights to and from China.

On 17 March, undersecretary at the Ministry of Health Sandra Zampa announced the purchase of many new ventilators as well as the importing of one and a half million masks from South Africa.

In order to deal with the numbers of COVID-19 patients, intensive care units were expanded, and new hospitals were created, especially in Lombardy. In Emilia-Romagna, professor Marco Ranieri developed a method to double the efficiency of ventilators in ICUs. The lack of a single protocol for hospitals was considered to be a problem.

Due to hospitals overcrowding with coronavirus patients, thousands of cancer patients experienced difficulties in getting access to treatment and transplants, with their lives put at even higher risk. Dozens of cancer hospital sections were indeed wither dedicated to host coronavirus wards, or closed after personnel got infected. According to a study, cancer patients represented 17% of coronavirus fatalities in Italy.

A letter published on the New England Journal of Medicine Catalyst Innovations in Care Delivery claimed that one of the reasons for the high death count in the area of Bergamo was hospital contamination.

Healthcare workers were also affected by coronavirus infections, with a higher percentage of the infected healthcare workers being women because of their predominance among nurses. This resulted in death in a considerable amount of cases, especially amongst general practitioners. By the end of March, more than 60 doctors in Italy had died with COVID-19, and the figure increased to 80 by 4 April and later 145 by 22 April.

So now, let's talk about Mexico:

Number and categorization of hospitalized cases were presented by the Secretariat of Health at the daily press conference (stable cases vs severe cases vs medical ventilation cases). That data showed steadily increasing amounts of hospitalizations and concern that the Mexican medical system was headed into disastrous territory. So the Mexican government did something predicable. After April 20 the Secretariat of Health stopped reporting this type of classification of hospitalized cases (as some hospitals began refusing admission of Covid patients).

On May 13, 2020, the Secretary of Economy Graciela Mrquez Coland announced the Plan for the return to the new normality (Plan para el regreso a la nueva normalidad in Spanish). The purpose of the plan is to progressively resume productive, social and educational activities that were halted during the phases of contingency in order to reopen the economy.

Phase 2 started on May 18th and is still scheduled to end on May 31st. Phase 2 was designed to prepare for the reopening of the country. Manufacturing of transportation equipment, mining, and construction industries are considered essential activities.

The starting date of Phase 3 has not yet been announced. For Phase 3 a "traffic light" coding system is to be implemented for the gradual reopening of the country. Consisting of four colors (green, yellow, orange, and red) that represent the severity of the pandemic in each state, the "traffic light" will be updated weekly and each color indicates which activities are safe to resume. Since Tijuana and Mexico City have been among Mexico's hardest hit areas, they likely will be in the last areas (states) to emerge from the shutdown.

[RikyMichaels7]

I will put as much credibility into that as "waiter and a working girl". People are just speculating and pulling random dates out of their behinds. In truth- none of them have any credible info as to when bars will be allowed to reopen, as it's not been decided by the authorities.

And you and Chinatown are giving credibility to the authorities of Tijuana. Now let's talk about who is pulling stuff out of their behinds.

[MongerHunger]

I guess total trips around 700 in last 8 10 years

If you made a trip every week for 13 years straight it still wouldn't even be 700 trips. I don't buy it.

[BigButtDetecto]

Why can't they open a place like campo allegre in curacao? This is perfect to keep social distance.

[Dogers69]

The death rate is always dropping. That's the amount people who died per people who got infected. Theres definitely an unknown, unexplainable transition factor, like how it killed so many so quick in Italy. The doctors are now saying, like in Japan, the disease dies down a bit, in its ability to kill, and it's not herd immunity or pills. So if they want to they can open in a month if tijuana needs the month to catch up to nyc timeline which was hit 1st. After that, it can open, it's not woman under 40 who will die anyway, it's some of the middle aged men customers who will get it from flying to San Diego more than a bar. If you don't talk to any guys in the Bar, and they pump massive amount fresh air, it's not likely to get coronavirus. I'd even walk outside every 25 minutes to increase my chances of health.

[Artisttyp]

Just from looking at the data and responses of other countries. September makes sense as the date HK could open. But that's optimistic. Clubs by design it's impossible to practice social distancing and will be the absolute last type of business to open. I just dont see how HK can open back up in the summer unfortunately

This.

Unfortunately Sept is also when flu season starts(possible second wave?). IMO we will be lucky to be celebrating Christmas in Tijuana.

Tijuana will probably be open before then but there will still be a high risk just being there in an urban environment with minimal social distancing, crowded streets, street people without PPE.

It's a mess. It makes me so sad.

[ChinaMan360]

I have a feeling that the Pres. of Mexico will come to his senses, but I have been totally wrong so far. I never thought he would take these extreme measures. Let's see what happen the end of May, but I am also hearing rumors that it the lockdown will be extended.

The president has been useless and states have been deciding how to deal with the virus on their own since the beginning. Mexico city hardly has any power outside of Mexico city.