General Reports

[BayBoy]

I don't live in the Southland but I've been reading these Tijuana forums for months and am sold on the sting-less mongering bargain this city seems to be (particularly the SG's), so I've tentatively decided to fly down to San Diego in January for 15-20 days (completely avoiding the year-end holiday travel rush) for some serious debauchery. The main thing I'm pondering is whether I should try staying in Tijuana or across the border somewhere in San Diego County (perhaps within walking distance of a trolley station near the National City / Main & Division strolls), or even roughing it out in the sticks somewhere for free on the US side if the weather is dry and warm enough. The obvious benefit of remaining in Mexico is not having to repeatedly deal with the northbound border line and inquisitive US border guards (I have a passport), but I'm a nonsmoker and have trouble sleeping in rooms with more than a hint of cigarette stench, and fear the Mexicans may be more lax about vigilantly maintaining non-smoking rooms than many US motels are these days (particularly in the cheaper hole-in-the-wall places in the Zona Norte). I've also read conflicting things on the Internet about whether the tap water in Mexico is still unsafe to drink or brush your teeth with, and should be completely avoided (I somehow got sick on it when I visited Mazatlan many years ago even though I was trying to avoid directly ingesting it) -- so what are your recommendations on all that?

Another major concern I have is avoiding girls under 18. I've looked at numerous pics of Tijuana SG's on Google, and many of them could be a little under that age for all I know -- particularly the ones who exaggerate their youthfulness by dressing in Mexican school girl garb. The situation is further muddled by the fact that even full-grown Latinas generally have a much smaller stature than Caucasian females. Am I supposed to just assume all the girls in the main strolls of the Zona have been checked out by authorities as being of legal age? Do they usually carry official identification, and can I request it if I'm nervous? The US State Department warns: "Soliciting sexual services of a minor is illegal in Mexico, and is punishable by imprisonment" -- then elsewhere on the same page warns of the horrors of the Mexican penal and criminal justice systems (plus if you survive imprisonment in Mexico, the US feds can then take a crack at you for traveling to a foreign country to engage in sex with minors). Yet despite these huge potential risks, I've seen little or no worry or discussion of this issue in the Tijuana forums.

The State Department also generally advises not to take Libre taxis, Volkswagen beetle taxis or any taxi not summoned by telephone in advance. I know some parts of Mexico are more dangerous than Tijuana, so I'm wondering if that precaution is necessary just to go from the Zona to the border?

Finally, where's a good place to buy pepper spray in SD or Tijuana, because I doubt the TSA will let me bring it on the plane.

Definitely stay on the Tijuana side. Crossing the border every day will ware you out. Its still 2-3 hours during 'normal' times. Not too long if you cross from 1-6 am. Try hotel La Villa de Zaragosa, most rooms are non smoking, the smoking rooms are kept in the back. Plus you're far enough a way from the noise of the Zona Rosa. Buy bottled water, there's plenty of AM-PM type stores around. Yes, don't go with the underaged girls. And have fun.

[GolfSexRroll]

That will be hard to find; seriously.

Unless, you meet Elena, the squirter from Venezuela!

YES That Chica is Famous! I've had my throat cleaned. To the point I had to come up for air!. Also I pity the guy who has to use the room AFTER her!

[TomJackin]

Thanks. . . I'm mostly concerned if she'll let me stick my tongue down her throat LOL.

That will be hard to find; seriously.

Unless, you meet Elena, the squirter from Venezuela!

[Coyote79]

Go during the afternoon to avoid the total sausage fest!

Most of the girls will ask for 80, just counter with 50 and see how it plays out.

If you buy one a drink, and she finishes the drink in a few minutes, send her on her way.

If you do not get a good vibe, send her on her way.

Thanks. . . I'm mostly concerned if she'll let me stick my tongue down her throat LOL.

[TomJackin]

Ok that helps a lot-.
I'm going to try Hong Kong on Saturday.

Go during the afternoon to avoid the total sausage fest!

Most of the girls will ask for 80, just counter with 50 and see how it plays out.

If you buy one a drink, and she finishes the drink in a few minutes, send her on her way.

If you do not get a good vibe, send her on her way.

[Coyote79]

The room fee is separate. HK hotel, $16 for 30 minutes.

What ever you give the girl, it is hers to keep.

Ok that helps a lot-.
I'm going to try Hong Kong on Saturday.

Hopefully I will have something good to post.

[TomJackin]

Is the $50-80 for the bar girls include the room fee, or is it all for the girl?

The room fee is separate. HK hotel, $16 for 30 minutes.

What ever you give the girl, it is hers to keep.

[Coyote79]

I don't live in the Southland but I've been reading these Tijuana forums for months and am sold on the sting-less mongering bargain this city seems to be (particularly the SG's), so I've tentatively decided to fly down to San Diego in January for 15-20 days (completely avoiding the year-end holiday travel rush) for some serious debauchery. The main thing I'm pondering is whether I should try staying in Tijuana or across the border somewhere in San Diego County (perhaps within walking distance of a trolley station near the National City / Main & Division strolls), or even roughing it out in the sticks somewhere for free on the US side if the weather is dry and warm enough. The obvious benefit of remaining in Mexico is not having to repeatedly deal with the northbound border line and inquisitive US border guards (I have a passport), but I'm a nonsmoker and have trouble sleeping in rooms with more than a hint of cigarette stench, and fear the Mexicans may be more lax about vigilantly maintaining non-smoking rooms than many US motels are these days (particularly in the cheaper hole-in-the-wall places in the Zona Norte). I've also read conflicting things on the Internet about whether the tap water in Mexico is still unsafe to drink or brush your teeth with, and should be completely avoided (I somehow got sick on it when I visited Mazatlan many years ago even though I was trying to avoid directly ingesting it) -- so what are your recommendations on all that?

Another major concern I have is avoiding girls under 18. I've looked at numerous pics of Tijuana SG's on Google, and many of them could be a little under that age for all I know -- particularly the ones who exaggerate their youthfulness by dressing in Mexican school girl garb. The situation is further muddled by the fact that even full-grown Latinas generally have a much smaller stature than Caucasian females. Am I supposed to just assume all the girls in the main strolls of the Zona have been checked out by authorities as being of legal age? Do they usually carry official identification, and can I request it if I'm nervous? The US State Department warns: "Soliciting sexual services of a minor is illegal in Mexico, and is punishable by imprisonment" -- then elsewhere on the same page warns of the horrors of the Mexican penal and criminal justice systems (plus if you survive imprisonment in Mexico, the US feds can then take a crack at you for traveling to a foreign country to engage in sex with minors). Yet despite these huge potential risks, I've seen little or no worry or discussion of this issue in the Tijuana forums.

The State Department also generally advises not to take Libre taxis, Volkswagen beetle taxis or any taxi not summoned by telephone in advance. I know some parts of Mexico are more dangerous than Tijuana, so I'm wondering if that precaution is necessary just to go from the Zona to the border?

Finally, where's a good place to buy pepper spray in SD or Tijuana, because I doubt the TSA will let me bring it on the plane.

IDK dude I think you maybe over-thinking things. . . IMHO when in Mex. . .
(1) don't raise your voice.
(2) don't complain about anything.
(3) dress like your poor.
(4) expect to be ripped-off a little bit.

[Coyote79]

It depends how you roll and if you drink or buy fichas.

Street Girls can range from $20 -40 depending on your needs Bar Girls $50 - 80 Street Walkers $20. Drinks for girls are around $8. Yours are $4/5. I usually budget $125 a day but get away with much less. I don't buy fichas and I mainly session with SGs or SWs.

No more than $200 IMO for a careful spender.

Is the $50-80 for the bar girls include the room fee, or is it all for the girl?

[Artisttyp]

What. Homeless guys with guns, and no story to share with your ISG brothers. I'm aware this happened in the USA and this is the Tijuana board. But there are some of us who prefer to camp on the USA Side when visiting Tijuana and your story may be beneficial.

Ok. I know how much you love drama so here it goes.

Back in 2001 when I first started going to Tijuana I would sleep on the US side on E Street Chula Vista at a place called The Good Night Inn below the 5 freeway. Across the street is the Chula Vista Nature Reserve. It is basically park land that surrounds the bay. Most of it is dry but heavily condensed. In the very middle of the park (far from peering eyes) is a cement block that you can sit on and gaze onto the bay. A perfect spot for Artisttyp to recollect his thoughts and unwind.

On one trip I was sitting out there and noticed a young guy walking towards me in the distance. I was thinking maybe he smelled the good 420 and wanted a few drags but as he approached he opened his jacket and made me aware that he was carrying a gun. As to not F around with him. Anyways when he came closer I offered him some 420 and we started casually talking. He was concerned about being robbed since he was squatting with another guy and they were looking out for each other. I told him I was just a traveler coming to party in Mexico. We shared a few hits talked some more then he left.

No big deal. I hope that was dramatic enough for you.

[Baxter Slade]

You can always camp illegally at the Chula Vista Nature Reserve on E Street Chula Vista but you might be uncomfortable being around homeless guys who carry guns. I found that out the hard way.

What. Homeless guys with guns, and no story to share with your ISG brothers. I'm aware this happened in the USA and this is the Tijuana board. But there are some of us who prefer to camp on the USA Side when visiting Tijuana and your story may be beneficial.

[Artisttyp]

The main thing I'm pondering is whether I should try staying in Tijuana or across the border somewhere in San Diego County (perhaps within walking distance of a trolley station near the National City / Main & Division strolls), or even roughing it out in the sticks somewhere for free on the US side if the weather is dry and warm enough.

You can always camp illegally at the Chula Vista Nature Reserve on E Street Chula Vista but you might be uncomfortable being around homeless guys who carry guns. I found that out the hard way. Not to mention the critters that could bite you.

[ClamSlammer]

I...am sold on the sting-less mongering bargain this city seems to be (particularly the SG's), so I've tentatively decided to fly down to San Diego in January for 15-20 days (completely avoiding the year-end holiday travel rush) for some serious debauchery. The main thing I'm pondering is whether I should try staying in Tijuana or across the border somewhere in San Diego County (perhaps within walking distance of a trolley station near the National City / Main & Division strolls), or even roughing it out in the sticks somewhere for free on the US side if the weather is dry and warm enough.

Seriously? If you're considering sleeping nights outside somewhere to save a few bucks, unless you're frickin' Grizzly Adams you might as well not even spend money on a flight. Hitchhike. Or perhaps discretely hop on a passing freight train. Better yet stay home because even Tijuana putas will refuse service if it's obvious you haven't showered in a week.

[GolfSexRroll]

JAJA. Good reply amigo. Yea F the tent in SD. That would be miserable.

As far as minors, most work off the grid. In homes and shit hotels, not in the Zona.

Taxi drivers are nicer than expected, just work out a price before you get in.

You could probably rent monthly place somewhere online. Playas de Tijuana may be a bit far from Zona but it has lots of monthly options.

There are some places in Centro that have weekly rents for $50 or so. They are JUST a cut above a tent, but you don't have to have all your shit wet, when it rains in January, or you freezing your balls off, when it gets down to 40 F EVERY NIGHT / but it will be cold in the rooms. You can "use the bathroom" #1 & #2 (hope that passes the censors!!!) in the luxurious bano down the hall and can take a shower!

If you need to save that much money you NEED to probably stay home!

[Mr Enternational]

I went once before to Tijuana and brought USA Dollars. Is dealing with pesos really the way to go?

This has been discussed ad nauseum. They will tell you $20. You say I only have pesos. They will say 200 pesos then. $20 = 260 pesos in the real Tijuana world (actually 272 pesos at today's interbank exchange rate). So if you want to save yourself $5 on each street girl then you better be using pesos. The clubs really use a little less than the real exchange rate so it won't make a difference there, but on the street it does.