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[Phordphan]

And if cops stop raiding massage parlors and handcuff street walkers. That's going to reduce arrests and prosecution of men as well. Again, way better than the alternative that we see in Republican run states like Texas and Florida (to lesser extend).

I think you're wrong and I'll bet you 2 beverages of your choice at the Tijuana bar of your choice.

Scenario: Man pays massage "therapist" and is having sex. Cops bust in and find them in flagrante. Who gets arrested? Well, the one committing the crime, I. E. The man. Purchasing sex is illegal. Who gets sent to counseling because she's a victim of trafficking? The woman. Selling sex is legal (or at least decriminalized) and all prostitutes are victims. I don't want to be right, but tell me how that wouldn't happen under the new law?

[Phordphan]

The progressives and feminists that I know tend (overwhelmingly) to support a woman's right to choose what she does with their own bodies. Man-hating is not really a part of the progressive or feminist agenda.

Have you been to a Women's Studies department in any major university lately? The feminist movement got co-opted by the radical lesbian left many years ago, back during Carter's "Year of the Woman. " Maybe you're too young to remember. The leftist lesbian agenda is now part and parcel of the feminist agenda.

[Captain Solo]

LeFeu,

AFAIK most Federal workers workers are coming to work only 1 or 2 days a week. It would take months before they can return your passport.

Would be fun to have a wingman in Colombia.

Let me know your plans.

I may be going.

[Lefeu]

I am arranging a trip to Colombia this month
...Anybody want to go?

I may be going to Medellin for 2 weeks, starting Sept 15. That is if I get my passport back on time.

I sent in my passport to get a passport card, early July, but they found some problems with my application and I had to redo it. They still have my passport. I tried to call them to see if I can get my passport back sooner, but there was no agent pick up.

[Captain Solo]

I am arranging a trip to Colombia this month.

6 non-stop flights from LAX to 5 cities in Colombia and Panama, total $966.

LAX to Bogota by Avianca.

Bogota to Medellin by Wingo.

Medellin to Panama city by Wingo.

Panama city to Guadalajara by Copra.

Guadalajara to CBMX by Velario.

CDMX to LAX by Aeromexico.

All nonstop flights, no connections, no waiting at the airports. A couple bros in South America will show us the best places for the hottest girls with the most exciting entertainment and good food.

Anybody want to go?

[Psychman]

The progressives and feminists that I know tend (overwhelmingly) to support a woman's right to choose what she does with their own bodies. Man-hating is not really a part of the progressive or feminist agenda.

100 true. Sadly, many people conflate liberal with progressive, and believe that man hating is a sign of feminism (which it is not).

[Phazze93]

Park at the trolley stations and take a ride to San Ysidro $2. 50 one way. Takes more time out of your life, but up to you on how much you want to spend. Free overnight parking.

Free parking only for 24 hours though right? From what it says on the website.

https://www.sdmts.com/rider-info/tra...tation-parking

Have you been able to park at trolley stations for more than 24 hours? My trip will prolly be for 2 nights? So def 24 hours +.

[Captain Solo]

Taking on feminists movements and religious fanatics with their huge resources, experiences and connections in state and federal legislature may be a way too massive and difficult effort.

It seems easier and more feasible to effect changes at local level. Local prostitution is usually selectively enforced by municipal government, driven primarily by pressure from local residents and businesses when their rights are abused and interests harmed by people and businesses associated with the sex trades. They would complain and local elected officials would have to allocate resources to solve problems within the confinements of existing laws.

It's very well-known and accepted that there are huge needs to buy and sell sex, evidenced by an ongoing underground market worth billions every year, which inherently has lots of abuses, exploitation, crimes and wraths to people and communities. A win-win solution must involve gives and takes that offer both benefits and constraints to both sides.

Perhaps neighborhoods blighted with prostitution and crimes would have incentives to petition city halls to confine those activities and businesses to specific vice zones where they are tolerated but isolated from homes, legit businesses, schools, churches ect, so they would not infringe upon the rights and benefits of residents and businesses, so they would stop complaining. These are the zona roja or zona tolerancia models in other countries. The vice zones would be easier and less costly for authorities to prevent crimes, protect workers, tax revenues.

Cities with areas of high crimes, declining property values, ruined businesses, heavy traffic, street nuisances, disturbances of normal life ect like Santa Ana, LOS Angeles, Chula Vista, Sacramento may have good incentives for residents to propose concentrating vice activities into special vice zones where prostitution is not prosecuted, but supervised and levied special zone taxes.

Experiences gained in governing these vice zones may be later used to amend state laws, if any individuals or organization ever have balls to champion the cause and put it in a ballot.

[WombatEd2]

Are you kidding? It's the "progressives" that are behind this nonsense. Conservatives may be opposed to prostitution, but it's the left, led by the feminists, who are absolute death on it. This "Nordic model" type of law is the brainchild of radical feminists, and directly targets men. Women are always the victims in any sex-for-money situation. Texas, in general, may be pretty conservative, but Austin (where the laws are made) makes Sacramento look like a Barry Goldwater convention.

The progressives and feminists that I know tend (overwhelmingly) to support a woman's right to choose what she does with their own bodies. Man-hating is not really a part of the progressive or feminist agenda.

[Ctytek]

Both of you guys are answering in the hypothetical. If you want the truth, ask yourselves what party is responsible for passing the law. Which party controlled the Texas Congress that passed the bill. Then the governor belonged to which party signed the bill into law.

Then you trace it back down to the donors of the party responsible. Follow the money. It leaves a trail.

"Both of us" Thought my posts were pretty clear which side is responsible for these ridiculous laws. And that's Republicans. Same people who passed recent anti-abortion laws in State of Texas.

This state is basically run by fashists at this point.

[Necropet]

Hey y'all. I'll be there this Friday through Sunday. PM me here if you want to chill some.

[Jackie888]

Anti-men feminists are certainly a fraction of progressives, but they are not the ones passing laws making soliciting sex work a 2nd degree felony. Those laws are being passed by the religious republican cocksuckers in the Texas State Assembly.

You're correct, and I said as much in my post. Sex work decriminalization laws are not perfect, and they say nothing about solicitation and consumption. But they are still a positive step in the right direction. And if cops stop raiding massage parlors and handcuff street walkers. That's going to reduce arrests and prosecution of men as well. Again, way better than the alternative that we see in Republican run states like Texas and Florida (to lesser extend).

Both of you guys are answering in the hypothetical. If you want the truth, ask yourselves what party is responsible for passing the law. Which party controlled the Texas Congress that passed the bill. Then the governor belonged to which party signed the bill into law.

Then you trace it back down to the donors of the party responsible. Follow the money. It leaves a trail.

[MacNCheeze]

I'm hoping to make my first trip down soon. Just wondering if Mexican pharmacies sell dapoxetine? I tend to be a quick draw and have had experiences stateside wasted because of it. Would like to give dapoxetine a try.

[BrockStar]

Things certainly quieter right now than in long time. Bars are open in USA so Tijuana is not the only place to go drink anymore. The travel restrictions and covid issues definitely cutting down on men here and hence cutting down on woman. Still a ton options but of the guys don't show up the woman go home quicker.

I was out Saturday night and it was pretty quiet in most of the bars. In fact, I think only Adelita and HK were really busy. It does seem to have quieted down the past couple of weeks (gradually).

[Ctytek]

I'm afraid you don't understand the "progressives." One of the main driving forces is feminism, and the feminists are completely, and utterly, against prostitution because it's a symptom of the male patriarchy and all women who work in that "industry" are exploited and trafficked. I have radical feminists in the family so I get to hear this shit up close.

Anti-men feminists are certainly a fraction of progressives, but they are not the ones passing laws making soliciting sex work a 2nd degree felony. Those laws are being passed by the religious republican cocksuckers in the Texas State Assembly.

You will note that, in your examples, they are declining to prosecute the women. It says nothing about not prosecuting their clientele. This is a far cry from "legalizing" prostitution.

You're correct, and I said as much in my post. Sex work decriminalization laws are not perfect, and they say nothing about solicitation and consumption. But they are still a positive step in the right direction. And if cops stop raiding massage parlors and handcuff street walkers. That's going to reduce arrests and prosecution of men as well. Again, way better than the alternative that we see in Republican run states like Texas and Florida (to lesser extend).