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  1. #17255

    US ciitzens murdered kidnapped in Mexico

    Just off the top of my head, there were many murders and kidnaps in the last few years.

    2 young gringas were murdered in Rosarito.

    1 SD high school grad was murdered in Ensenada.

    A SD surf champion was kidnapped on the way to Ensenada; his wife gang raped in front of him.

    1 guy had a money dispute with a puta working out of a bar near PV's cruise ship terminal. He ran out of the bar, was chased down and shot to death with a Colt. 45.

    2 med students in Guadalajara from LOS Angeles were kidnapped and tortured for ransom when they went to a bad neighborhood one night looking to buy drugs. After 1 week, 1 family paid ransom and 1 guy was released, the other guy was tortured and shot to death in front of an apartment building. The surviving guy swore he did not see anything or anyone and did not remember what happened to them. He was very scared.

    1 LA guy from botched a drug deal and owed the cartel $200 K. He went down to Michoacan to negotiate payment and got kidnapped. His family was instructed to bring $200 K cash to a clothing store in the garment district. They went to the FBI. FBI investigated, baited and raided dozens stores, found $50 M cash. Stores in the garment district would swap drug cash in LA for shipments of clothing to importers in Mexico who then pay cartels with pesos.

    May be many more in other states I have not heard.

    I am not trying to provoke hysteria, but the facts are there have been quite a few murders and kidnaps of US citizens in Mexico with not much LE's heat brought down, but the rate of major crimes is probably lower than in LOS Angeles or Riverside counties. Murder of federal agents like Enrique Camarena would bring down heat, but it took DEA over a decade to finally capture the 2 guys who did the murder. They could not pin the hit on El Chapo.

    Murders and kidnaps of ordinary US citizens won't excite federal officials into taking quick, serious actions. State Department already warned travelers of Mexico.

  2. #17254
    Quote Originally Posted by ClamSlammer  [View Original Post]
    I'm going to have to disagree here. If the kidnapping of an American results in some type of gain, financial or otherwise, cartel leaders will be all for it. A few American citizens getting killed in Mexico will elicit absolutely zero USA Federal response. None. There's been several killings of Americans in Tijuana the past few years and the American federal government did absolutely nothing about it.
    I have to agree with LuvMexicans. Let me give you an example to add a little perspective. A few years back, I was with a friend of mine that lived in Nuevo Laredo. One night, both of us went to a bar in NL where live music was being played. I ventured to the rear of the bar to use the restroom. I momentarily stopped to listen to the band, prior to entering the restroom. A local looked at me and asked me what I was looking at. I replied, I am looking at the band. He responded by saying that I was looking at his girlfriend, of which I emphatically denied. As I turned to go to the restroom, he kicked me in my ass. And I mean hard. I grabbed him by the collar and told him to "chinga su madre. " We were immediately broken up by the bouncer, who walked me back to the other side of the bar and told me that I didn't want anything to do with this guy cause he is cartel. I walked back to where my friend was standing and told him what happened. He became very upset and asked me to point the guy out, of which I did. My friend said, I know this guy. He walked over to him and threw a punch and knocked him out. I begged him for us to leave the bar, of which we did. He called me the following Monday and said that this guy's boss, of whom he also knew, just about had him killed. That it is a no no to mess with gringos and bring unneeded attention. He also assured my friend that I would not have any future problems coming to this bar. That I would be protected.

  3. #17253
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Great point. I have said the same thing. Also, when guys travel to these far away destination, they leave out travel expenses. I know a lot of guys lie and exaggerate, I lived in one of these destinations, the details they leave out in there reports blows my mind.

    You also have to figure your time. Time is money and if you spend 2-3 days traveling that adds a tremendous amount to your trip. My last couple of trips to Moscow I had major delays. The airlines compensated some, but I was still out of pocket money. Not to mention missing additional work. Also, some of these guys are on the commuter 2-3 hours a day researching, they forgot to mention this.
    Yup is all about detailed reports. You learn a lot from guys who don't leave out the important stuff. I've crossed the Atlantic three times with my buddies. Two out of three times I got sick so I'the like to say it isn't worth it for me. I blame it on being cold inside the plane. And two out of three times we went to three different countries each time. I've been exhausted and unable to adjust to the time zone. Last year we were waiting for our plane to go to Barcelona at Charles De Gaulle and my buddy calls me over so I can call a casa.

    Inside the plane my buddy is looking at puta sites and is making me laugh. I told him that my head is hurting from all this research and he agrees. I'll never forget being at Paseo de las Delicias, 127 in Madrid. Is a building with four floors of chicas. Inside is like a maze with chicas everywhere. I ran into this chica and tells me sarcastically that she likes my enthusiasm. I felt all drugged from the medication. That day I could barely fuck two chicas, I ran out of euros, I ran out of gas, and I didn't even pop. On our way to Europe I was like I'm going to run through that building but I was so wrong. My buddies have brought up the fact that going with chicas overseas takes a lot of time from doing other things.

  4. #17252
    Quote Originally Posted by Goyo61  [View Original Post]
    Guys are constantly saying what they paid for a girl on this forum. Your correct about the names I guess for a little privacy but it would be interesting to see what a girl is charging other people.
    I disagree on the guys are constantly posting how much they paid the chica. I've read guys writing how they got everything bareback, they made their chica cum a million times, they made sweet love to them, and that the chica enjoyed it, and so on. At the end I feel fooled for reading all that and there's no chica name and no damage reported. I'the like to know if the chica is too pricey for those services or how she will lie to my face when she says she doesn't do those things.

  5. #17251
    Quote Originally Posted by ClamSlammer  [View Original Post]
    I'm going to have to disagree here. If the kidnapping of an American results in some type of gain, financial or otherwise, cartel leaders will be all for it. A few American citizens getting killed in Mexico will elicit absolutely zero USA Federal response. None. There's been several killings of Americans in Tijuana the past few years and the American federal government did absolutely nothing about it.
    Can you state the specific killings of Americans in Tijuana BY the cartel?

  6. #17250
    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas  [View Original Post]
    Your point is well taken. I'll expound on it with an opinion. If I were a cartel leader and someone in my organization kidnapped, executed or otherwise targeted an American, that someone would see a six feet deep hole in the desert. The reason is it's simply bad for business and perhaps even more so now with Trump. I'll explain. The cartels have to know that any harm to an American will illicit a response and perhaps a severe one.
    I'm going to have to disagree here. If the kidnapping of an American results in some type of gain, financial or otherwise, cartel leaders will be all for it. A few American citizens getting killed in Mexico will elicit absolutely zero USA Federal response. None. There's been several killings of Americans in Tijuana the past few years and the American federal government did absolutely nothing about it.

  7. #17249

    Locating a contact

    I posted it in other forums, broadcasting here for more eyes.

    During these critical time specially for WGs, I feel I should support one of the girls I met last year in Tijuana. She was particularly nice to me not just in bed but otherwise too. The problem is I deleted all the contact info I had back then. No Whatsapp backup, No other form of interaction history, and to top it all I even forgot her name (burying face in hands).

    But I still feel the urge to do something, so I am posting it here to get any idea or may be contact of someone who may have contact of that chica. Here is what I know:

    She was working in Maria Bonita MP in May last year. She was short and plump, huge tits. Her name was something like Tia or tinny. I thought of calling Maria Bonita but not sure if that is a good idea.

    Any help is appreciated.

    Thanks brethren,

    Kplayer.

  8. #17248
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    WU and MoneyGram can be collected in the supermarkets. Also at Coppel and Elektra, assuming they are still open.
    For the last week WU has had problems and you can only pickup at BanCoppel. Coppel is open as are OXXO. Don't know about Elektra.

  9. #17247
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator400  [View Original Post]
    "You can't fix stupid," Ron White.

    Just the thought of getting sick is enough to prevent me from going out unnecessarily.

    I never do BBFS for the same reason. I want a long, healthy, and happy mongering career.

    Until recently, I would not have thought that my GE status would have been at risk when Shelter In Place was recommended.

    However, now that they are actually citing people for failing to shelter in place and follow the mandates, it could come up as a minor criminal activity and give them a reason / excuse to reject renewal.

    I have not missed a flight in four years, because I am able to avoid long lines and keep my shoes on.
    GE works incredibly well when reentering at an airport. It has never taken me more than 5 minutes while others are waiting in long lines for how long I don't want to even know. Also great for TSA pre-check and Sentri as mentioned.

  10. #17246

    Is your Senti / GE worth losing?

    Quote Originally Posted by TomJackin  [View Original Post]
    I know some of you are still crossing back and forth for reasons beyond me.

    I will not risk losing my Senti / GE / TSAprecheck OR getting sick just to play with a puta or two.

    Every time you cross back in the US, the agents have records of your crossings. And so many dental appointments will not sit after a couple.

    I guess if you don't have Senti / GE / TSAprecheck. Then your only worries will be getting sick.
    "You can't fix stupid," Ron White.

    Just the thought of getting sick is enough to prevent me from going out unnecessarily.

    I never do BBFS for the same reason. I want a long, healthy, and happy mongering career.

    Until recently, I would not have thought that my GE status would have been at risk when Shelter In Place was recommended.

    However, now that they are actually citing people for failing to shelter in place and follow the mandates, it could come up as a minor criminal activity and give them a reason / excuse to reject renewal.

    I have not missed a flight in four years, because I am able to avoid long lines and keep my shoes on.

    I LOVE my GE card and don't want to give them an excuse not to renew.

    Funny Story:

    I walked near the head of line at the old border crossing.

    An old guy (guessing late 60's or early 70's, traveling solo, and likely a fellow monger) said harshly, "You are not going to cut in front of me!

    The BP officer had just stopped the crowd from going though the gate, pulsing the long line.

    I replied in a civil tone, "I have Sentri. Do you have Sentri?

    The BP officer heard my reply and shouted at me over five other people that she had just cut off from entering the screening area, "Sentri? Come on through. ".

    I stepped up. Showed my card, and proceeded to the Sentri line where one other person was waiting to be screened.

    Sorry dude. I wasn't being rude; I was just exercising the privilege. Be careful about the assumptions you make.

  11. #17245

    How close can the cartels get to you?

    One night a few years back, I already had a couple sessions with the chicas and was sitting at HK's Kowloon bar, sucking down beers to recoup, watching the strip show and the hundreds hot girls wandering by.

    Sitting quietly next to me was a nice, slim, clean cut, wholesome young Mexican guy in his mid 20's, wearing ordinary jean, a white polo shirt and tan wind breaker. He was sitting quietly on a stool, not drinking, not smoking, not moving, his eyes fixated on the stage, but not a single mesero or chica approached him to sell drinks or sex. Then a procession of HK's managers, MC, security bosses ect slowly walked past the guy, shook his hand, nodded their heads respectfully. The guy shook their hands but did not move, gesture, say anything or look at them to acknowledge; his eyes were glued on the stage. I suspected he was a local hot shot, but he looked so young, nice and clean. I scanned the club looking for his bodyguards, but did not find anyone resembling muscles. He appeared to sit there all by himself.

    In Oct 2019, Mexico's Policia Federale apprehended El Chapo's oldest son, Olivio Guzman, in Culiacan. The Sinaloa cartel mounted a massive military operation, burning cars and buses, blocking streets, shutting down the whole city, assaulting policia headquarters. Under-armed and undermanned Federalis had to release Olivio Guzman. The pics showed he was the guy sitting next to me in HK that night. Allegedly Olivio has not and is not involved in the Sinaloa cartel's drug trade, only his 2 younger brothers.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...-el-chapos-son

    I suspect the cartels, chicas and workers in La Zona have very good situation awareness and know a lot more about the people hanging out in their work place than you can guess. Take this info for what's it's worth and act accordingly.

  12. #17244
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodQuestions  [View Original Post]
    In my mongering career I've wondered two things. How come guys don't post names and at times don't write how much they paid a chica. I've thought is got to do with PLM stuff. And now with the Corona going on guys on this site and on CB are posting tips on how to send money to their chicas. I think in this situation is the right thing to do. I still can't help but laugh every time I read these kinds of posts but still I'm supporting you guys. This brings me to the second part of my question. Sometimes when I posted the damage in my reports I didn't want to do it cause I was embarrassed about overpaying for what I got in return. And now look at where we're at.
    Great point. I have said the same thing. Also, when guys travel to these far away destination, they leave out travel expenses. I know a lot of guys lie and exaggerate, I lived in one of these destinations, the details they leave out in there reports blows my mind.

    You also have to figure your time. Time is money and if you spend 2-3 days traveling that adds a tremendous amount to your trip. My last couple of trips to Moscow I had major delays. The airlines compensated some, but I was still out of pocket money. Not to mention missing additional work. Also, some of these guys are on the commuter 2-3 hours a day researching, they forgot to mention this.

  13. #17243

    Outside the Zona

    I know some of you fellas live in Tijuana and / or have significant social networks down there so I have a question. The Zona bars are closed but what about bars like La Cueva Del Peludo that are away from the areas where the gringos roam and caters more to locals?

  14. #17242
    Funny to hear someone say "mongering career" . It really can be!

    Guys are constantly saying what they paid for a girl on this forum. Your correct about the names I guess for a little privacy but it would be interesting to see what a girl is charging other people.

    I am not to embarrassed to share what I paid if it was too much. It's a good way to learn from others. Yea. It is a "guys" club a bit so I will get some grief but it's OK, as most of the guys on the board seem perty supportive of each other and also one of the good things about being over 50 years old, is others don't get "a vote" on how you feel about yourself.

    In-other-words, what others think means less and less as you get very comfortable in your own skin and know that if I lived the life of someone else I would think just like them, and if they lived in my shoes, they would be making the exact same decisions so don't go to hard on others as we all have our "filters" that we view life through.

    Goyo.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodQuestions  [View Original Post]
    In my mongering career I've wondered two things. How come guys don't post names and at times don't write how much they paid a chica. I've thought is got to do with PLM stuff. And now with the Corona going on guys on this site and on CB are posting tips on how to send money to their chicas. I think in this situation is the right thing to do. I still can't help but laugh every time I read these kinds of posts but still I'm supporting you guys. This brings me to the second part of my question. Sometimes when I posted the damage in my reports I didn't want to do it cause I was embarrassed about overpaying for what I got in return. And now look at where we're at.

  15. #17241
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    According to their conversations with InSight, press releases, and reports in the newspaper El Mexicano, this kidnapping was not a simple extortion tactic, but a settling of drug debts.

    The above was a pull quote from the second article. The first, too, dealt with increased drug cartel violence.

    So, do you have any evidence to show that, then or now, American tourists were / are being targeted by cartels? Do you have any evidence to show that cartels are targeting cars with CA plates, of which there are about a bazillion in Tijuana.
    Your point is well taken. I'll expound on it with an opinion. If I were a cartel leader and someone in my organization kidnapped, executed or otherwise targeted an American, that someone would see a six feet deep hole in the desert. The reason is it's simply bad for business and perhaps even more so now with Trump. I'll explain. The cartels have to know that any harm to an American will illicit a response and perhaps a severe one. They also likely understand that the current president is just a tad more rash than ones past. The last thing they want to do is poke the bear. Again, if I were a cartel leader, I would not want to do anything to disturb the status quo because I'm making oceans of money and AMLO certainly isn't going to get in my way unless big brother to the north twists his arm to the point of breaking it. The plausible it was a case of mistaken identity massacre of the Mormons near the Arizona border was a Mulligan and the cartels likely understand that it will be the last. Just my two pesos in support of Phordphan's general point that Americans in Mexico should worry more about general street crime than constantly looking over their shoulders for the cartel.

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