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[Goyo61]

My buddy was asking a few girls if they had visa's and I thought he was a little nuts. But nope. There were two girls in HK that had visa's and could come over to US. I had another guy at work tell me he has some escort girls that he picks up at PedWest and they go have a good time. Call me paranoid but there is no way I will be taking that risk. I can see it now if they girl gets in trouble for something and they find out she came over here to "work". OMG. What a frikin legal mess.

[Goyo61]

Some things in life never thought I would be able to do until you take a visit to Zona Norte! It's amazing that for a buck or two that the girls will let you squeeze the merchandise! What's more amazing is the variety of textures. Some girls are more firm and some of the girls rear ends are so soft it feels like butter! I don't think I have ever spent a dollar for so much enjoyment in all of my life! I do wish the girls wouldn't "lock up" their top half so much. The tops they were are a bit clumsy to actually get a feel. Trying to get your hand inside their bra while they are wearing it etc. Anyway. Just had to share this piece of heaven!

[KC Questor]

Okay I get HK and Adelitas each have their own hotel, so HK girls ONLY go to Cascadas and Adeltias girls only go to Coahuila is they do go to a hotel during work hours?

This is correct. If they are working they only go to their hotel. To complicate it a bit, some of the clubs and hotels have the same owners, so girls can go to those hotels. For example, Bar Tropical is owned by Hong Kong, so the BT girls can go to Cascadas and the HK girls can go to Rizo de Oro. But that's really only if you have a room. If you don't have a room and just need a short time room they'll take you up to their hotel.

If you don't get a room in Cascadas or Adeltias and want to take a girl for a short time from either club you take them to the club's basement or second floor?

If you don't have your own room, you will pay about $20 for a 30-minute room in the same hotel. The rooms aren't in the basement. In fact, they are pretty much the same rooms you would get for an overnight. In fact, if it is Mon-Wed, an overnight room at Coahuila is only $2 more than 30 minutes. Well worth it even if you don't plan to sleep there. If you have VIP with Hong Kong, overnight rooms on Mon-Tues are CHEAPER than 30 minutes ($13 vs $19).

Can I bring SG or Indies to either hotel too? Thanks.

The hotel won't mind who you bring in, although they may check the girl's health card so that may rule out some indies and street girls. The girls may not want to go to your hotel. Street girls get a kickback from their hotel and they are the most comfortable there. I had a street girl ask for 800 pesos to come to my room at Coahuila, versus 400+90 for her hotel. If they are standing close to your hotel it is more likely that they will go there. Indies may not want to come to the Zona at all. It is viewed as a seedy area and many don't want to be seen there. Most escort agencies won't send girls there.

[LivingFossil]

Okay I get HK and Adelitas each have their own hotel, so HK girls ONLY go to Cascadas and Adeltias girls only go to Coahuila is they do go to a hotel during work hours?

If you don't get a room in Cascadas or Adeltias and want to take a girl for a short time from either club you take them to the club's basement or second floor?

Can I bring SG or Indies to either hotel too? Thanks.

Considering your excellent Spanish, you are quite likely to find bar girls who would be willing to do this, but be very clear about your expectations re: girl-girl and boy-girl-girl action. What do you want and what will they do? Bar girls will not go to your hotel unless you persuade them to come after their shift, or unless you get a room at Hotel Cascadas (for Hong Kong girls) or Hotel Coahuila (Adelita girls). Note that the standard rate is $80 per girl for 30 minutes, but they may want more for threesome action, and you may contract for more time.

Escort agencies all have a list of girls that are available for threesomes. The basic rate is for an hour, and usually a threesome is discounted versus two separate girls. It is definitely the more affordable option, but you won't have any way to interview the girls before and make sure they will do what you like. You could exchange some Whatsapp messages with the booker and see if he can steer you towards an appropriate threesome. Also the Musas have an online forum where you can interact with the girls a bit. http://scortads.com/musasboard/index.php.

Street girls are unlikely to do threesomes unless you have a prior relationship or offer a lot of money. They will rarely go to your hotel, unless you have a room in the Zona and even then it is 50/50.

[LivingFossil]

For trios, besides scortads and mileroticos, is there any additional bookers or sites you would suggest for threesomes?

Considering your excellent Spanish, you are quite likely to find bar girls who would be willing to do this, but be very clear about your expectations re: girl-girl and boy-girl-girl action. What do you want and what will they do? Bar girls will not go to your hotel unless you persuade them to come after their shift, or unless you get a room at Hotel Cascadas (for Hong Kong girls) or Hotel Coahuila (Adelita girls). Note that the standard rate is $80 per girl for 30 minutes, but they may want more for threesome action, and you may contract for more time.

Escort agencies all have a list of girls that are available for threesomes. The basic rate is for an hour, and usually a threesome is discounted versus two separate girls. It is definitely the more affordable option, but you won't have any way to interview the girls before and make sure they will do what you like. You could exchange some Whatsapp messages with the booker and see if he can steer you towards an appropriate threesome. Also the Musas have an online forum where you can interact with the girls a bit. http://scortads.com/musasboard/index.php..

[Goyo61]

I went to Portland this year for a vacation weekend and did some stripper bar hopping. It was very interesting. Each bar had it's own cool vibe to it. The lap dances were $30 if I remember correctly so I little more expensive and there was only One bar where the girl would happily get but naked and you could touch her all over. It was very "hands off". Girls say Hi and grab your crotch the way they do in HK. That's one special place!

You misunderstood me. What I was saying is the lap dance booths are bad experience. Not as good as lap dance in USA. Because the girls already got some money, I'm guessing half is for them, they are also asking every ten seconds if I'm ready to go upstairs. And rarely ever getting naked and touching me in anyway. Just flat out very bad. I get way better results during the drink. I have had girls all over me during the drinks. The trick is to act interested but not fully interested. Make her work for the sale.

[Goyo61]

Ah, that make sense then. They just didn't enforce the 15 minutes.

Gee. Maybe if I am quick I can get a special "2 minute" rate for a hotel room.

Thanks for the insight.

Street girl at $6 for room is only 15 minutes. $14+ for other hotels and a bar girl is for 30+ minutes. I've been in a Cascades room with a HK girl for an hour without being hassled for extra. If you go 30 minutes with a streetgirl, the hotel will want the additional $$.

[BearBare]

Street girl at $6 for room is only 15 minutes. $14+ for other hotels and a bar girl is for 30+ minutes. I've been in a Cascades room with a HK girl for an hour without being hassled for extra. If you go 30 minutes with a streetgirl, the hotel will want the additional $$

Had some fun last Sunday for a bit in Tijuana.

Asked SG if it was OK to go do Cascada's and she was fine with it instead of her normal $6 room where we went before. What is Crazy is they only asked for $6 at Cascadas instead of the normal $20. Why if I bring a girl from HK it's $20 but a SG is only $6 . Not complaining!

It gave me little more money for lap dances in HK which was fun. Girl named Baby has one incredible body. I didn't have any mojo left to take her upstairs for a second round. I know she wouldn't go for it but I wanted to offer her $40 just to go up and massage her body for 30 minutes.

Being new to this world I need to decipher the acronyms to read posts. This abbreviations page is a Big help!

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=Abbreviations

While I am not that much into "Greek" . It's fun to ask once in a while just to see the reactions of the girls who normally say noooooo. Two of the girls I asked last weekend said yes. I couldn't believe it. I didn't take them upstairs but was fun to explore the business deal and what was for sale and what was not.

Goyo.

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[Dogers69]

For more unlimited groping and touching, you must go to "privado". These are cabins with doors in the Miami section and upstairs. Price $ 21 for no more than 5 minutes. If you decide that you like the girl's body and you have a vibe then you go to the hotel room. Ficha is limited to drinking, small talk and maybe a little groping.

You misunderstood me. What I was saying is the lap dance booths are bad experience. Not as good as lap dance in USA. Because the girls already got some money, I'm guessing half is for them, they are also asking every ten seconds if I'm ready to go upstairs. And rarely ever getting naked and touching me in anyway. Just flat out very bad. I get way better results during the drink. I have had girls all over me during the drinks. The trick is to act interested but not fully interested. Make her work for the sale.

[Goyo61]

Had some fun last Sunday for a bit in Tijuana.

Asked SG if it was OK to go do Cascada's and she was fine with it instead of her normal $6 room where we went before. What is Crazy is they only asked for $6 at Cascadas instead of the normal $20. Why if I bring a girl from HK it's $20 but a SG is only $6 . Not complaining!

It gave me little more money for lap dances in HK which was fun. Girl named Baby has one incredible body. I didn't have any mojo left to take her upstairs for a second round. I know she wouldn't go for it but I wanted to offer her $40 just to go up and massage her body for 30 minutes.

Being new to this world I need to decipher the acronyms to read posts. This abbreviations page is a Big help!

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=Abbreviations

While I am not that much into "Greek" . It's fun to ask once in a while just to see the reactions of the girls who normally say noooooo. Two of the girls I asked last weekend said yes. I couldn't believe it. I didn't take them upstairs but was fun to explore the business deal and what was for sale and what was not.

Goyo.

[Goyo61]

Did a red light district tour while in Bangkok and it was good to go with someone that directed us to the bars that don't take advantage of the tourists so much.

I LOVE the bar Crazy Horse in Soi Cowboy. I fell in love with a 35 year old massage girl in Phi Phi islands. For a $100 (I probably overpaid). She spent the night with me in my hotel.

Thanks for Karon beach tip as were just starting to do a little research into what to do in the area.

Goyo.

Yeah, that list is super weak. No mention of Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, or even Pattaya which is the biggest P4P scene I know of w several hundred girlie bars. Patpong in BKK is fun but very small compared to the previously mentioned BKK P4P scenes. If you're going to Phuket's Patong tourist area there is Bangla Road which has a vibrant P4P scene albeit a snake's den of hustling BGs. Still you will get the full Thai bar scene experience. Pattaya and BKK P4P scenes are more user friendly though. In Patong they have daily snorkeling tours of all the islands like Phi Phi etc. If you like beaches Karon Beach is awesome and only a few miles from Patong. Have fun.

[Goyo61]

Pattaya's on the bucket list as well as Columbia at some point.

Will check out the Phuket thread as will be good to widen my perspective before we head out on the trip.

Goyo.

I live in Pattaya, Thailand. I can tell you that Phuket sux for mongering. Bangla Road is overrun with ladyboys and the discos that you used to get freelancers in are overrun with normal tourists. It is also expensive as everything else is there in order to gouge tourists. See Phuket thread in the Thailand section.

[ChinaMan360]

You went to LV for mongering?? Wow. Your eyes will pop out once you get to Thailand. Nothing on your list is even close to real mongering locales except maybe Tijuana. Barcelona has massage parlors and they can be real good but still doesn't belong on a P4 P list. Amsterdam is a rip off unless you're a local and know the terrain. Enjoy BKK and Pattaya and start a new list.

Haha I'm a newbie tbh. Barely a year into this hobby. Is my list really that weird? I like experimenting and trying new places. I have some interesting stories from those places I listed. LV is my home base so I take advantage of it and if you know where to look the price can be good. Amsterdam I thought was fine. I do like how clean the city the RLD is compared to Tijuana. I'm looking forward to eventually go to Thailand because I've heard from everyone that's the mecca for mongering.

[StRobert]

I've been to.

1. Amsterdam.

2. Las Vegas.

3. Barcelona.

4. Zona norte.

Thailand is top on my list to review next. Right now zona norte is the top for me, but it does have a few downsides.

Amsterdam was fine but the service can be highly variable, but 50 euros is not a bad price. I never liked window shopping vs club action like in the zona. But the city itself is much more fun.

Las Vegas the rectory agencies are fun and high quality but expensive. I heard the Latin houses in Vegas are great but they are a little hard to find. Have not tried the AMPS believe it or not.

Barcelona sucks for red light action. Las Ramblas had few SW vs zona and very low quality. There are sex clubs too but the girls are low quality and the price is like 200 euros.

I've been to Amsterdam several times. Main RLD (Red Light District) Wallen narrow streets are full of tourists mainly from the United Kingdom often drunk specially on weekends. It is better to visit two other RLDs that tourists do not know about: Singel and Pijp. Another problem in Amsterdam is frequent rains or cold rains, wind and in winter cold and sometimes snow. But the city of Amsterdam is very interesting has beautiful museums and history but in my opinion RLD Tijuana Zona Norte is better, warmer climate, nice girls and drunk tourists from Europe can not come here so easily.

[StRobert]

Hong Kong lap dance booths are big, but no air flow so gets hot. I've done it with ten girls and basically learned, if it's not her idea, then it will be terrible. So most were terrible. I got way more out of USA lap dances. Every place I go on the states allows touching of some sort. And many allow tit sucking. In Hong Kong the girls don't even sit on the lap thy are usually angry you didn't take them upstairs yet. They constantly ask are you ready for sex upstairs. They don't care that you just wasted 24 dollars between the price, the mesero tip, and she will ask for a tip without even touching you. So it's a waste, unless you get a girl, who's not having sex that night for whatever reason. She may put in better effort.

For more unlimited groping and touching, you must go to "privado". These are cabins with doors in the Miami section and upstairs. Price $ 21 for no more than 5 minutes. If you decide that you like the girl's body and you have a vibe then you go to the hotel room. Ficha is limited to drinking, small talk and maybe a little groping.