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These days the police sort of tolerate the SW's or until they become a nuisance or their superior's tell them to crack down. SDPD cut back vice to 1 officer at the sub-stations.
Originally Posted by ClownDays
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Yeah, it's going to take a while, if it ever happens. They've been trying in San Francisco since I can remember and the measure always loses by large margins.
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Originally Posted by Hargow20
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We have a moral hangup about prostitution and this why it is illegal. People don't like seeing girls out on streets. So many girls dress so scantily in bikni's or lingerie & standing in the middle of the streets only riles up the locals. It is only within the past 5 or 6 years that the girls started dressing like this. I can understand people that live in the neighborhoods get irritated when they act like this. My own belief is that eros centers like they have in Germany is the best solution. They are discreet & guys can still have fun at a reasonable price. The Eros centers have largely eliminated the pimps as well. As for Texas it is ridiculous that they have made prostitution a felony. Let's remember that a felony is defined as penalty that carries a sentence of 1 year or more. I seriously doubt prostitution will be legalized in the CA however.
Yeah, it's going to take a while, if it ever happens. They've been trying in San Francisco since I can remember and the measure always loses by large margins.
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We have a moral hangup about prostitution and this why it is illegal. People don't like seeing girls out on streets. So many girls dress so scantily in bikni's or lingerie & standing in the middle of the streets only riles up the locals. It is only within the past 5 or 6 years that the girls started dressing like this. I can understand people that live in the neighborhoods get irritated when they act like this. My own belief is that eros centers like they have in Germany is the best solution. They are discreet & guys can still have fun at a reasonable price. The Eros centers have largely eliminated the pimps as well. As for Texas it is ridiculous that they have made prostitution a felony. Let's remember that a felony is defined as penalty that carries a sentence of 1 year or more. I seriously doubt prostitution will be legalized in the CA however.
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Prostitution was legal in the US (Texas, California, New York, Louisiana etc before 1914.) Now politicians cannot regulate even such a simple thing as legal prostitution. (I'm not a mathematician) but I figured out how much the state of California is losing money because it has illegal prostitution and money is spent by US citizens 10 minutes from the border in Tijuana's Zona Norte. For example, in one week, 1000 US guys spend $ US 250 / person in Zona Norte = $ US 250,000 / week. That's $ US 1 million per month. And now for a year, $ US 1 million x 52 weeks is $ US 52 million. The total is about $ US 52 million is spent in Mexico 10 minutes from the border in Zona Norte but not in California.
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Hypocrisy
That's not even close to being the end of the story. I remember when I first started my mongering life. I was sitting there in a bar located in a well-known Central American puta palace tossing one back. So, I'm looking up at the wall, and what do I see? Patches from police departments all over the United States! I'm like well I'll be damned! Will you look at this shit? So, these guys are back there arresting people for doing the same damn thing they're traveling abroad to do! It's not that I was particularly "surprised" by what I was seeing (people are going to be people). It was just having the hypocrisy so openly flaunted in my face. Well, it only gave me more encouragement to take more steps towards living my life the way I wanted to. I liked flying in and slam fucking all those pretty Ticas and Colombianas, and I wasn't going to stop it. Anybody else's morals (real or feigned) be damned!
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Originally Posted by CaptainSolo
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Texas' recent felony prostitution and antiabortion laws, allowing any party to rat on and sue providers for bounties, are way too extreme. Soon they may have stricter laws against fornication and adultery if they are not already in the book. Texas' lawmakers prefer the citizens to praise the Lord while screwing their own children and cousins hehe.
OTOH Texas is not serious about prosecuting human traffickers and horny teachers screwing their young students, which seem to happen a lot in Texas.
Elon Musk and company are moving to Texas. These guys are highly stressed and wild. I figure they will have lots of run ins with redneck laws. Or Elon may just buy all those Bible-thumping pols and legislate Texas into a Philistine state just to keep his workers happy pumping out cars.
Prostitution was legal in the US (Texas, California, New York, Louisiana etc before 1914.) Now politicians cannot regulate even such a simple thing as legal prostitution. (I'm not a mathematician) but I figured out how much the state of California is losing money because it has illegal prostitution and money is spent by US citizens 10 minutes from the border in Tijuana's Zona Norte. For example, in one week, 1000 US guys spend $ US 250 / person in Zona Norte = $ US 250,000 / week. That's $ US 1 million per month. And now for a year, $ US 1 million x 52 weeks is $ US 52 million. The total is about $ US 52 million is spent in Mexico 10 minutes from the border in Zona Norte but not in California.
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Originally Posted by TjBrazil
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I saw this video on you tube from this dating coach about how once you go down the escort hooker route it's almost impossible to go back to normal girls. It's a real good video I thought you guys would like watching, but there is a mention in the video about these famous identical twin sisters in Brazil that were escorts. He talks about his friend and other guys flying from around the world to sleep with these identical twins. Did I miss this. I don't remember twins at Help or on the escort site. Anyone care to comment and know anything about these twins and did you hook up with them. Thanks.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ONtl6xjdk3s
Given this video was from a "dating coach" that's trying to sell you his services I watched this video with a skeptical eye. While I agree if you only use escorts and give up on regular dating you will have some cost to pay for that but the vast majority of guys aren't doing that. Most guys are still involved in the dating scene (if they are single or cheating) or with their significant other if they have a wife / girlfriend already so this decline he speaks of can easily be avoided by simply not going escort only which probably very few here will advise. I'd also so some of us may even see being able to pull women in our regular dating life that look like some of the best escorts we've bang as a challenge to aspire to which means we know there are things we need to work on to accomplish that.
I don't know about the so call famous identical twins though. No idea if that was a true story or just a made up story to demonstrate a point.
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Originally Posted by CocrBrotheler
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Maybe a game changer in the "transactional" dating scene here in TX?
I went out a couple weekends ago here in TX to see a Kiss cover band and most of the women in there were 30ish-50ish typical stuck up bitches.
Not that I was trying to hit on any of them however the only ones smiling at me and making eye contact were a couple of younger hotties. Makes me wonder if before the new law they could of possibly been on SA or SB web-sites but now with new law must go out and physically interact for clients versus being tracked on-line? I don't know and not interested in trying to find out. New law even makes me scared to try and regular date again.
Housing no longer cheap in TX either unless move to BFE. Use to be able to get on the fringes of the major cities a nice new 3 or 4 bedroom for low 200's. Now is $350 K-$500 K easily.
Considering it's a felony, I don't even think it's worth trying, especially since the law just kicked in and the politicians are going to be pushing Law Enforcement to show results for it to make the people feel like they are rooting the immoral degenerates out of their state, and stopping it from turning into Los Angeles or San Francisco.
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Texas' Draconian laws
If you approach these stuck-up women in person, they may call in the sheriff for sexual harassment and sue you in civil court for destroying their chaste lives.
It would be easy to sting Sugar Babies in TX. Once there are agreements to exchange sex for money and the Sugar Babies show up to further the exchange, they can be arrested for prostitution and thrown in state prison 1 year to honeymoon with beefy butches.
Remember how FBI arrested the owners of Back Page in Texas? Potentially TX already has secret indictments for guys like the owner of SA. If he ever sets foot on Texas LE may be waiting. In fact FBI can use sugar babies as witness to charge SA owners with human trafficking, mail fraud, wire fraud, abusing interstate infrastructure, pimping and pandering. They can send out Red Notice to Interpol and the first time the guy crosses a border out of Singapore, they can arrest his ass and extradite to the US for prosecution.
Texas just loooooves to throw the big law book and the Bible at the evil, devil-possessed perverts who enable and facilitate sex, except the kinky and incestuous kinds practiced by their Bible thumping state officials.
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Texas' Draconian laws
Maybe a game changer in the "transactional" dating scene here in TX?
I went out a couple weekends ago here in TX to see a Kiss cover band and most of the women in there were 30ish-50ish typical stuck up bitches.
Not that I was trying to hit on any of them however the only ones smiling at me and making eye contact were a couple of younger hotties. Makes me wonder if before the new law they could of possibly been on SA or SB web-sites but now with new law must go out and physically interact for clients versus being tracked on-line? I don't know and not interested in trying to find out. New law even makes me scared to try and regular date again.
Housing no longer cheap in TX either unless move to BFE. Use to be able to get on the fringes of the major cities a nice new 3 or 4 bedroom for low 200's. Now is $350 K-$500 K easily.
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Originally Posted by DickusMaximus
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Curious as to where you go and what your approach is? I did have a girl at the Green Witch try to get me to join here and her friends going to another place. But one of her friends cock-blocked and said I was too old. (he's like 40 - if they only knew, LOL) Still, I don't find it easy to approach people at those places.
A young gringo like under 33 shouldn't really be paying in HK. Partying in HK sure. But I know young guys who would go to beer garden place and get woman very easily. They were not tall either. Just walking into Mexico makes them go from a visual 7 to 9 due to woman not caring much about height.
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Originally Posted by DickusMaximus
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Curious as to where you go and what your approach is? I did have a girl at the Green Witch try to get me to join here and her friends going to another place. But one of her friends cock-blocked and said I was too old. (he's like 40 - if they only knew, LOL) Still, I don't find it easy to approach people at those places.
Most often, I've had success at El Copeo and at Rancho Grande.
I would stop short of saying I have an approach. I don't really go in those places to hunt so I'd credit luck more than an approach. But when I've had success, I just go to the bar, have a drink and just look around the room. If I make eye contact and get a smile, I'll raise my glass and ask them (by my motion, not verbally) if they'd like a drink. If they come over, chances are very high that things will go very well. I'm definitely passive because it's not a goal I have when I walk in. So it's a lot about luck, timing but most importantly, be approachable and welcoming. If guys aren't comfortable because of language or environment, then it just won't work.
Also, as others have said, the key word is help. After establishing rapport (do NOT lead with help), the conversation will naturally lead to her difficulties. That's your cue to offer help. Be direct but do not make it transactional. Here again, I am very passive, I'll sit and drink and talk for a long time. I enjoy the flirting and conversation. But if you offer help, she will know what you are talking about.
Las Pulgas is another place some have reported success. I haven't had any luck there. Chicas are usually in larger groups and it's just a different dynamic. It just hasn't worked for me.
Most importantly, realize that I am over 40, overweight, can't dance and my Spanish is limited. If I can do it, anyone can. Be approachable and you'll do well.
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Texas' Draconian laws
Texas' recent felony prostitution and antiabortion laws, allowing any party to rat on and sue providers for bounties, are way too extreme. Soon they may have stricter laws against fornication and adultery if they are not already in the book. Texas' lawmakers prefer the citizens to praise the Lord while screwing their own children and cousins hehe.
OTOH Texas is not serious about prosecuting human traffickers and horny teachers screwing their young students, which seem to happen a lot in Texas.
Elon Musk and company are moving to Texas. These guys are highly stressed and wild. I figure they will have lots of run ins with redneck laws. Or Elon may just buy all those Bible-thumping pols and legislate Texas into a Philistine state just to keep his workers happy pumping out cars.
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Originally Posted by DickusMaximus
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I did have a girl at the Green Witch try to get me to join here and her friends going to another place. But one of her friends cock-blocked and said I was too old.
The friend may have saved you the expectation of picking up the tab. There is asking you to join in a genuine sense and asking you to join so her and her friends can drink on your dime.
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Originally Posted by DickusMaximus
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Curious as to where you go and what your approach is? I did have a girl at the Green Witch try to get me to join here and her friends going to another place. But one of her friends cock-blocked and said I was too old. (he's like 40 - if they only knew, LOL) Still, I don't find it easy to approach people at those places.
In a Zona club it's not unusual for a guy to have relations with a girl one-third of his age. He's the paying customer. In civvie bars it will be a bit different. Generally speaking, you're going to have to be more "age appropriate." It won't necessarily be as bad as the USA, but if you're 50, for example, it'll be hard to pull a 22 year old. Women between, say, 35 and 40 would be more likely targets.
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Originally Posted by Dcrist0527
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I am the epitome of out of shape. But I do well in civie bars. I think Mexicanas are more forgiving. No doubt good looks help. But I would not say you need to delay.
Curious as to where you go and what your approach is? I did have a girl at the Green Witch try to get me to join here and her friends going to another place. But one of her friends cock-blocked and said I was too old. (he's like 40 - if they only knew, LOL) Still, I don't find it easy to approach people at those places.
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