General Reports

[Once Sailor]

I'm in San Diego getting ready to cross the border. After a few days of wild currency shifts on the market, it seems to have stabilized for the moment close to where it started. Not so much for the currency exchangers near the border. Saw them selling pesos on a range from 18.7 to 17.9. I guess it will be a while till they stabilize, depending on who gambled or bought pesos / dollars during the wild swing.

[SaltShaker]

Time will tell. Arrived at HK November 10,2016 around 12 ish left around 7 ish. Several chicas told me this week was very slow. There was desperation on the HK floor. Discounting was great!

Without the American visitor Tijuana cannot survive everything from restaurants, the cab driver, hotels, bars, the zona will collapse.

It would probably look like Cuba within a year.

[Apache]

Whether you agree with their reasoning or not, Trump and those viewed as his supporters are not popular in Mexico now. This is just reality.

[The Cane]

Without the American visitor Tijuana cannot survive everything from restaurants, the cab driver, hotels, bars, the zona will collapse.

I have visited Tijuana one time and boned some attractive Mexican girls while there (see my write-ups in the ROD). One of the things that struck me was how I felt that I the "gringo" turista was the economic engine driving the place. It started with crossing the border. I paid taxis to take me to and from. I stayed in a hotel on the Mexican side and took some meals in the restaurant there. I paid to enter clubs like HK Club. I tipped bar tenders and meseros. I bought drinks for chicas. If I slapped one of their bubble butts that cost me a dollar. When I was ready to tap some Mexicana ass I paid the door man a little tip to take the girl to the short-time hotel where I then paid for the room. Then after enjoying me some foreign pussy I paid the tute her money. And on the way out I normally would tip the clean-up boys who prepare the rooms for the next "couple". When I was hungry, I stepped out onto the street to patronize one of the taco stands. And on an on and on! And that was just me! Gringo dollars grease the economic engine that keeps Tijuana running!

[Member #4450]

If locals don't want Americans in Tijuana that would be more detrimental to them than anyone else.

Without the American visitor Tijuana cannot survive everything from restaurants, the cab driver, hotels, bars, the zona will collapse.

It would probably look like Cuba within a year.

[Member #4450]

Why blaming Trump is the people who voted him because that's what the majority of people of this country wants.

Mexico doesn't let undocumented migrants from central America to stay in Mexico they get deported. Few years ago there used to be beautiful South American Girls working in AB with tourist visa one day the Mexican immigration officers came and took them away. Nowadays you won't find a single non Mexican working in the zona don't believe me ask the bar people.

The bad news for the Tijuana monger is if Trump starts deporting all illegal criminals they will probably end up in border towns like Tijuana Mexicali etc. Tijuana is already full of crime just think about all these criminals walking around you.

Trump said Non criminals illegals are going to be deported too To their country of origin and they need to apply for residence to be allowed to return.

This law is nothing new back in the 1980's Reagan signed the Amnesty and illegal aliens working in US factories were rounded up and deported but they keep coming back, also employers were supposed to ask for green card before hiring someone but no many did. If you want to have an idea how illegals were deported back in the 1980s watch the funny movie Born in East La.

An international border is an entrance to another country. You wouldn't leave your home door open when you're not home because the door is what secures your home from criminals and protects your values it's just common sense.

[Apache]

Mexicans ask me "Did you vote for la mujer o el racista?"

My Tijuana dentist is a highly educated and cultured Mexican. He told me he understands Trump's twisted rhetoric but thinks his supporters are 'even more scary.'

Of course gringo dollars will be always welcomed in the zona but I look for the hostility towards the stereotypical "ugly American" to increase. Those with contempt for gringos feel they have more justification to act on it now.

Don't want to be negative but I see more robbery/ violence towards gringos from both rateros and the policia. Be careful.

[Artisttyp]

As far as immediate repercussion. I would say no. However if things Trump does that may have a negative effect on the Mexican economy, it could make people more desperate which could increase crime.

I, as gringo looking as you can get was moving around all over the city the day after the election and I was still greeted warmly wherever I went. One thing I did notice during this election year was whether it was the cab drivers or meseros or bar girls everone had an opinion on american politics. I just don't remember it ever being like that before. Only thing that changed from election night to the next day was a slight increase in the amount of pesos you got for your dollar.

Now as far as having pesos in your pocket instead of dollars, so it is less likely you will be robbed by the police, don't know if I buy into that. Plain and simple regardless of what's in your pocket, if you are a gringo and you are in the zona norte you have a huge target on your back.

I had a few conversations with locals about the election. I assured them Trump's commentary was done to win the election. He will enforce immigration laws (as he should) and he will only deport criminals not the workers that are so important to our economy. Basically on par with Mexico.

Everyone I talked to seemed to care more about Mexico than America. After all it was an election for the *US President. What matters is our country. At the same time I hope Mexico continues to be our friend and that we can see eye to eye on a fix for the current situation.

Some hipsters at a cafe automatically assumed I was a Clinton supporter. Wrong Assumption. At least we agreed that Prop 64 (Legal Weed) was a good thing.

If locals don't want Americans in Tijuana that would be more detrimental to them than anyone else.

[Member #4450]

By the time that happens I will be so old that I won't be able to get it up.

Not really the wall is already built Between Tijuana / San Ysidro the new wall would probably start somewhere near Arizona California state line.

[HorseTrader]

The number one challenge for all you Tijuana mongers is going to be breaching "The Great Wall" in order to get to all that Mexicana cho cho on the other side hahaha!

By the time that happens I will be so old that I won't be able to get it up.

[Member #4450]

The number one challenge for all you Tijuana mongers is going to be breaching "The Great Wall" in order to get to all that Mexicana cho cho on the other side hahaha!

There would be a big beautiful door.

[Hyperblue]

In about 100 visits to Tijuana in last 2 years, I had just 2 occasions that I encounter with Mexican police.

I am an Asian and anybody can tell easily that I don't live in Tijuana, but I try to minimize my time on Tijuana streets.

My first encounter was when I accidentally cross the border with my car, and I just left my car at HK valet, and enjoyed the night. On my way back I hired HK valet guy for $10. Stopped twice by politia, and they accused me of being drunken, but when I asked "uhhhh, by the way I am not a driver here, right?" . Well they released me. It was really hilarious situation. The valet guy drove until right in front of ramp to the border and went back to HK.

The second one happened just last week, and it was not a pleasant experience at all. I was walking toward ped west at around 5 am, and at the police box on the middle bridge, one male and one female police stopped me, and insisted that I have to go to downtown Tijuana police station and wait for the trial, because I was walking on the public street drunken.

Duh! Never heard of punishment for drunken walking. Anyway they insisted it is on the Mexican law, and I need to talk to the judge. I spent about 30 minutes for arguing with them, nothing worked until I showed them my wallet and gave all I had.

I didn't suggest the bribery blatantly. Asked whether we can find other way of solving the problem.

Luckily I had $10 and 120 pesos. The guy gave 20 pesos back to me. I hugged them and left the scene. Haha.

While arguing with them, they kept emphasize that I should've taken the taxi. Maybe he is partly sponsored by the taxi companies.

[Baxter Slade]

So with Trump going to win this election do we think we might have any repercussion in Tijuana especially around our safety being mostly white males?

As far as immediate repercussion. I would say no. However if things Trump does that may have a negative effect on the Mexican economy, it could make people more desperate which could increase crime.

I, as gringo looking as you can get was moving around all over the city the day after the election and I was still greeted warmly wherever I went. One thing I did notice during this election year was whether it was the cab drivers or meseros or bar girls everone had an opinion on american politics. I just don't remember it ever being like that before. Only thing that changed from election night to the next day was a slight increase in the amount of pesos you got for your dollar.

Now as far as having pesos in your pocket instead of dollars, so it is less likely you will be robbed by the police, don't know if I buy into that. Plain and simple regardless of what's in your pocket, if you are a gringo and you are in the zona norte you have a huge target on your back.

[Member #4450]

I think the benefit that we (sex tourism to Mexico) wanted if Trump won the election was the peso going to 25 pesos as it was speculated by some "experts" but it didn't happen it only went to 20 pesos. Mexico's economy will be fine there enemy is not Trump but within inside like there recent governor from Veracruz who stole millions of pesos and fled. Visiting Tijuana will be the same for couple more years and is not going to be cheaper. What Trump wants to do will take years as all the things he plans to do there's laws that prohibit it so it will be a very slow process and also have to consider that if the Mexican economy collapses also affects the USA economy as most companies in Mexico are own by US companies.

Good point,

But don't buy what you read or hear in the Mexican news. The USA can do just fine without Mexico. Remember those US companies are going to pay big tax fines for taking the jobs to Mexico some of those companies will close down and probably move back to the US to avoid the penalty tax fines.

If US manufacturers decides to bite the bullet and pay Trump taxes they will be force to lower Mexican workers salaries.

Let's not Forget there are many other latin American countries they would be very happy to bring those US factories to their country.

Trump plan is very clear he just wants to bring the jobs back to the USA.

I think the Dollar will go much higher to the peso after Trump takes power.

Mexico inflation will be higher that's great for the Tijuana visitor bringing Dollars but the girls are well trained and they just keep jacking up the prices no matter what currency you have. So dollar goes higher and so are the prices.

[Member #4450]

I agree. I'd notice I look blonde and blue eyes when I carry dollars in my wallet but I look pure Mexican with pesos. Sometimes I carry dollars mixed with pesos in my wallet and I don't wear my Hawaiian shirt anymore does it make me look a typical gringo tourist?

I fooled those cops all the time with my look they don't know I'm a tourist because the zona is only exclusive for the locals.

I'm curious How do you hide your tourist profile if you're Asian or black?

BTW what typical tourist looks like I haven't seen any in the zona Yet.