General Reports

[Keg]

Anyway, I'm going to have to study the detour maps on-line and decide what to do. They say the detour (on the free road) adds only 1-2 hours, but I'm not sure how keen I am on taking it. Aapprently you have to get off the toll road at Salsipuedes, go inland for 15 miles and come back towrds the coast for 15 miles and it drops you back onto the toll road just 5 miles past where you had to detour off it. Sheesh, what a lousy turn of events!

Fuck it, just go. The detour is just a minor inconvenience. IMHO, it's best to strike while the iron is hot with these chicas.

Have fun, looking forward to the trip report.

Cheers,

Keg

[MayerinSD]

Nice trip report. Sounds like you found a diamond in the rough, and are on the way to cultivating a nice arrangement.

Your questions about the pricing sound like you have a good deal in place, and don't need any advice. You'd be surprised that there are guys that go to clubs like Hong Kong and pay $100 for a half-hour without negotiating, and receive only standard service.

While I go to Tijuana frequently, I haven't been to Ensenada in years. I'd like to get back down there. I've heard the toll road has suffered some significant damage and is closed, but you should verify this and confirm with your chica.

Cheers,

Keg

Oh no! I just heard a report on the news that made me check on-line and you were right, Keg. A big section of the toll road just above Ensenada did completely collapse this week. Must've happenned sometime after my trip down there last Sunday!

In fact, the collapse was exactly at that rough, corkscrew section I had interpreted (in my previous post) as being 'under construction. ' When driving thru that section in the dark last Sunday, my assumption was that it was simply a section of the road undergoing a periodic repaving project – but apparently it was actually them trying to shore it up after it got damaged in an earthquake last month.

Apparently they were unsuccessful because sometime this week that whole damn mountainous section of the road just collapsed into the valley below. Glad I wasn't on it at the time!

Wow. What unbelievable timing. Just before my highly anticipated return trip for the best nookie I've had in years and years. Maybe this is a sign that I'm just not meant to go down there. Either that or it sure feels like a curse of bad luck directed specifically at me, I. E. Now that, after many years, I've finally found something worth travelling to down there, and have been looking forward to it all week with great anticipation, and. POOF. I literally lose the road I need underneath my wheels. Damn, Damn, Damn!

Anyway, I'm going to have to study the detour maps on-line and decide what to do. They say the detour (on the free road) adds only 1-2 hours, but I'm not sure how keen I am on taking it. Aapprently you have to get off the toll road at Salsipuedes, go inland for 15 miles and come back towrds the coast for 15 miles and it drops you back onto the toll road just 5 miles past where you had to detour off it. Sheesh, what a lousy turn of events!

[HorseTrader]

Anyway, sorry for the long rambling post, and thanks in advance for ANY comments / advice any of you can give me. In return, I'll do my part and post follow-up trip reports, not only from this one but also trips to Tijuana.

Thanks!

Here is my assessment and recommendation.

1) you made a deal for $150. Stick to it.

2) you are in lust. Enjoy it now, it won't last long.

3) don't overthink these details. Just keep safe and don't screw up your financial future. No need to worry if you get a 12 hour date or a 16 hour date.

[MayerinSD]

Nice trip report. Sounds like you found a diamond in the rough, and are on the way to cultivating a nice arrangement.

Your questions about the pricing sound like you have a good deal in place, and don't need any advice. You'd be surprised that there are guys that go to clubs like Hong Kong and pay $100 for a half-hour without negotiating, and receive only standard service.

While I go to Tijuana frequently, I haven't been to Ensenada in years. I'd like to get back down there. I've heard the toll road has suffered some significant damage and is closed, but you should verify this and confirm with your chica.

Cheers,

Keg

Toll road is actually quite good almost all the way, some sections nicely repaved, but a short stretch under construction and rough going down into the steep coastal valley just before coming back up onto the main drag past the campground and into Ensenada.

[Keg]

Brunette, about 5'3, about 25 years old, cute and sexy. Not an immediate knockout (about a 7) to look at when dressed but a fine little firm sexy body once those clothes came off.

Nice trip report. Sounds like you found a diamond in the rough, and are on the way to cultivating a nice arrangement.

Your questions about the pricing sound like you have a good deal in place, and don't need any advice. You'd be surprised that there are guys that go to clubs like Hong Kong and pay $100 for a half-hour without negotiating, and receive only standard service.

While I go to Tijuana frequently, I haven't been to Ensenada in years. I'd like to get back down there. I've heard the toll road has suffered some significant damage and is closed, but you should verify this and confirm with your chica.

Cheers,

Keg

[RimmDigger]

Okay Gentlemen.

So my questions are:

1) Was $150 too to much to offer (for a 5 PM meet at hotel and stay overnite until next day)? If so, is the right thing to do to just pay it since I offered it, or should I try to re-negotiate once we meet at the hotel? Or even try to renegotiate with her on the phone when I call her to that afternoon to confirm before heading out on the day of meeting?

2) We agreed to meet at 5 PM and that she'll stay until 'the next morning, ' but what does that typically mean? Is she going to wake up and have breakfast and we can get down in the room until checkout time, or will she disappear at 5 AM while I'm sleeping and I wake up with my dick in my hand? Should I discuss this on the phone with her next week during my confirmation call before departing, or wait to bring it up until we're in the room?

Thanks!

Welcome aboard! You will find a lot of helpful and good friends here.

Your questions are easy. Considering the kind and quality of service you are getting, it is a very good price. If you waited to hear from her, chances are that she would've told you: 3000 pesos. (maybe 2000?). Hey, even your 2 hour non-stop session was worth the 150.

Now, of course, everybody should aim to keep prices as low as possible. I wouldn't try to re-negotiate. Why? Because you set up the first offer. What I would do, is exchange it to pesos. Have your complete 150 exchanged dls in a separate pocket, and then, at the end of everything, when you are ready to pay, play it dumb and say: "hey, I have only pesos now. Is it ok for you if I give you 1500 pesos?". She might get a little upset, and almost sure she will say: "arrrggh. You said dls. It's ok. Give me the 1500" she will think that you are cheap, but you managed to get it for 120 dls.

NOW, if you want to turn her into your regular, or plan to see her often, or the experience is soo god, just give her the complete amount. Very well worth it. One thing, don't give her more. (she will get used to receive more very easily). Think it this way: you are getting her to do whatever you want at 10 dls per hour. Not bad!

Next morning, judging by your report, she won't disappear. You'll wake up next to her, and if you play your cards correctly, you will be able to get one pop, shower and breakfast.

Your plan sounds promising. Good luck with your adventure, and make sure to let us know how it went!

[SBeach25]

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak; 1511470]The good thing is that for an asian guy I am considered just a little taller (not as buff as Sbeach.). [QUOTE]Hahaha! Need to catch up with you soon.

[Artisttyp]

Do you still frequent MDE? I've been there a few times and relied on your reports to get started. Haven't been able to afford to go for awhile, but things may be getting better. I'll start with Tijuana.

Funny you ask. Will be there in 3 weeks. Thanks for your comments regarding my MDE posts.

[Errol Flynn]

Do you still frequent MDE? I've been there a few times and relied on your reports to get started. Haven't been able to afford to go for awhile, but things may be getting better. I'll start with Tijuana.

[Artisttyp]

I've been reading the Forum in prep for a trip Jan 2nd and I'm trying to figure out the availability and appropriate charge for BBBJ in Tijuana as I personally can't stand CBJ.

My take away is that BBBJ is standard and included for the higher end escorts (like cumintj. Com) , almost impossible with most SWs / SGs unless you know them (but I still figure there's a number that would get most to go for it, it's just not an extra 10% on a $20 fee) , and possible with some Club Girls (HK / AB etc) but not included in the standard $60 arriba, should be negotiated first if you care.

So what should I offer / agree to for BBBJ with bar or street girls, yee sages?

Walkers pay no more than 300mx. A few can be found for 200mx.

SG's are tough and most will try to give you prices similar to BG's. I'd avoid them all together unless an opportunity arises.

I don't do BG's but know enough people who do. BBBJ is usually on the menu but there are exceptions. Just negotiate beforehand. IMO any $80 + session should include BBBJ.

Pay afterwards.

[Errol Flynn]

I've been reading the Forum in prep for a trip Jan 2nd and I'm trying to figure out the availability and appropriate charge for BBBJ in Tijuana as I personally can't stand CBJ.

My take away is that BBBJ is standard and included for the higher end escorts (like cumintj. Com) , almost impossible with most SWs / SGs unless you know them (but I still figure there's a number that would get most to go for it, it's just not an extra 10% on a $20 fee) , and possible with some Club Girls (HK / AB etc) but not included in the standard $60 arriba, should be negotiated first if you care.

So what should I offer / agree to for BBBJ with bar or street girls, yee sages?

[MayerinSD]

Okay Gentlemen, I have been lurking on this forum for a long time and never thought I'd actually register and post, but a recent experience I had was so incredible that I just have to ask you wise and experienced gentleman some advice.

This one particular experience happened in Ensenada, but the question is a general one that just as well applies to Tijuana. I've had plenty of Tijuana experience (and stories too) over the years, so I'm assuming it's okay to post in this forum. If I'm wrong on this, please correct me and I'll apologize for any unintended breach of protocol, and re-post.

First a bit of background, then my question. I'm not going to go into great detail about my origins and experiences I've had in 30+ years (off and on) of enjoying the pleasures of working girls through Mexico, but the very basics are that I've lived in San Diego from age 18 (Bay Area before that) and am 56 now. At various periods in my life, I have occasionally partaken of the services of working girls, usually in Tijuana since it's so close to home, but also Ensenada and Los Cabos.

But I've never been a regular at it. Typically I've done this when I was not dating anyone (I. E. When I was 'between girlfriends') and certainly not when I was married from 1992. 2005.

But I'm a native Californian who has had various travels throughout Mexico since my teenaged years (and actually lived there for close to a year back in the early 80's) , I speak Spanish well enough to generally communicate, and over the years I've gotten Tijuana and northern Baja wired enough that I could almost come across as a local. I still love the place and all of the pleasures it has to offer, especially those pleasures discussed on this forum (even though I totally stayed away during the horrible narco cartel years of 2006-2012 but that era seems past now, at least in Baja).

Again, I've plenty of experiences in Zona Norte, but never on a regular basis. And typically whenever I've made a trip to Tijuana for a session (usually Adelita's although occasionally HK and other past clubs) , it's been a real get-in-and-get-out-quick kind of thing. I was never looking for a GFE, I'd usually go during a period when I didn't have a regular GF and the pressure of no poontang would just get too much and Rosy Palm just wouldn't cut it. Sometimes you just finally need a real live woman to come in.

But it's always been something I've done just to 'get it out of my system' (almost ashamedly) , so I'd check the border wait times beforehand and time it so I can drive down and park on this side of the line, head to Zona Norte and do my thing, and get back home in less than 3 hours, around $100 poorer, mas o menos (cost of girl, Cascadas room, taxi both ways, parking, a drink or two for me and a ficha or two for the girl).

As with most of the postings on this forum, my quality of experience in Tijuana has varied from horrible to excellent, but my M. O. Has always been: Negotiate price and service downstairs, head upstairs with the girl and pay for room, do the sexo thing fairly quickly, and then back downstairs straight into the cab to the border and home.

So, all that being said, what has prompted me to post on here, and what is my question for you fine experienced gentleman? Well, what happened is that last weekend, on a lark I went with an out-of-town buddy to Ensenada (where I hadn't been in quite a few years) for a quick overnite trip of partying / shipping. And, of course, we figured we may try out one of the "working girls" there if the situation seemed right.

And there in Ensenada (of all places) , with a SG I had my first real GFE that was so amazing, so awesome, so unexpected, so one-of-a-kind (and I've had some "real" girlfriends who were pretty good in this area) that it floored me. And it has been on my mind alot since then. And I know I have to go back to have her again.

BUT. I'm experienced enough at this to know that it's the kiss of death if you ever lose your head, and your sense of reason, with one of these hot little Latina working girls, no matter how good, how enticing, how intoxicating, how loving or how orgasmic she may be or how much she rocks your world, or how much you want to think that she's only that way with you.

Anyway. This chica was a little brunette who turned out to be a full-on nympho. I mean truly a nympho in the clinical sense, who just couldn't get enough. I mean the horniest little thing I have ever been with, who just absolutely loved the sex with me and I am certain that (knowing what experts they all are at faking it) she came repeatedly because. Unless I have made it this age not knowing as much about female anatomy as I thought I did. I don't think they can fake the physical signs. Like vaginal muscle spasms (felt like a warm wet vice grip) , eyes rolling back in head, breathing changes, and other physical manifestations.

Brunette, about 5'3, about 25 years old, cute and sexy. Not an immediate knockout (about a 7) to look at when dressed but a fine little firm sexy body once those clothes came off. I'm pretty sure she was just a SG because a local guy we'the be hanging with brought her over. She asked for $60 for a half-hour (BTW prices seem to be higher in Ensenada than Tijuana) but we ended up spending two hours in the room doing it non-stop, and I still just paid her $60 when done and she didn't ask for any more or a tip.

Two hours almost straight. She just kept wanting it more and more, the only reason we stopped is because my buddy wanted to come back in the room. It was outstanding. Literally blew my mind. With plenty of V's, I was ready to go all night with her.

And I never thought I'd say this about a hooker, but I liked her demeanor, her personality, and mind. She was actually very pleasing to be with, very pleasant, and surprisingly intelligent. We talked about music, pop culture, world politics, etc. She had her own little iPod and speakers with quite a music selection. She seemed to genuinely enjoy my company. Not at all jaded like some of these 40-something working girls can be who put on an incredible show downstairs in the club but turn into a robot upstairs. In fact, it's too bad she's a working girl because she'the actually be a great girlfriend! Obviously would / could never happen, but nice to fantasize!

Anyway, I got her phone number before she left, waited five days, and just called her tonite to set up a full-on overnite session next week, something I've never ever done with one of these girls. I told her I'd meet her at the hotel at 5, and I told her I'd include taking her out to dinner, maybe even dancing, but a lot of time in that room doing it. She'll stay overnite and leave the next morning. She enthusiastically agreed to this when I asked. In fact, she actually seemed a little bit surprised (in a cute way) about it. I don't know, maybe she faked her surprise, but that, along with her young age and other little signs I noticed, makes me think she may be fairly new at this as she didn't do some of the things I've seen more experienced and jaded girls do.

So here's my question: How much should I have offered her for this? I think I may have made a mistake and opened my big mouth and offered too much. After she agreed to meet me for the over-nighter, I asked her how much she wanted for this, and at first she said she needed to think about it, but then she asked me how much I wanted to pay her for it and. For some stupid reason. I opened my bigh mouth and offered her $150.

I'm usually a hard negotiator with these girls. But I'm used to doing it at the table downstairs in the club, and it's usually for a quick half-hour (or maybe an hour) session arriba. This whole concept of actually calling up one of these girls on her phone (with children crying and other home noises in background) to set up a whole overnite meeting in my own hotel room is new territory for me. My negotiating experience has always been in the strip club / bordello environment of HK, Adelita's, Chicago Club, etc.

Anyway, we set up our date for 5 PM next week and I told her I'the call her again at about 1 PM that same day before leaving S. D. Just to confirm that she absolutely will be there.

So my questions are:

1) Was $150 too to much to offer (for a 5 PM meet at hotel and stay overnite until next day)? If so, is the right thing to do to just pay it since I offered it, or should I try to re-negotiate once we meet at the hotel? Or even try to renegotiate with her on the phone when I call her to that afternoon to confirm before heading out on the day of meeting?

2) We agreed to meet at 5 PM and that she'll stay until 'the next morning, ' but what does that typically mean? Is she going to wake up and have breakfast and we can get down in the room until checkout time, or will she disappear at 5 AM while I'm sleeping and I wake up with my dick in my hand? Should I discuss this on the phone with her next week during my confirmation call before departing, or wait to bring it up until we're in the room?

Anyway, sorry for the long rambling post, and thanks in advance for ANY comments / advice any of you can give me. In return, I'll do my part and post follow-up trip reports, not only from this one but also trips to Tijuana.

Thanks!

[TomJackin]

I brought my extended family, my girl, her two daughters, and mother on the 24th to Rosarito Beach. We hit the beach first and they all rode the horses while I relaxed at one of the beach bars.

We had dinner at the Rosarito Beach Hotel and it was quite good. They had a Christmas menu, which was available on the 24th and 25th. Three course Gringo meal for $16. 95 before 6 pm, and $18. 95 after 6 pm.

First course was either soup or salad. I started with the "Nut" soup, which sucked, so they gave me the salad instead, which was good. The main course was turkey, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, stuffing, veggies, and cranberry stuff. I skipped the sweet potatoes and cranberries. The third course was either pumpkin pie or apple pie with ice cream.

The girls all ordered off the regular menu and everyone seemed to have a lot of fun, including me.

On the 25th, my girl just wanted to hang with me at the hotel, and I enjoyed our time together. I wanted to go to Nikki's for the Christmas dinner, but I was held captive in the hotel room, thus, room service it was!

It was a great short trip. Hopefully everyone had a great holiday as well!

[Guitarrefreak]

MSclive, the "HK meseros weren't aggressive"? You must live in that parallel universe Stephen Hawking talks about in those discovery documentaries. You could make millions in speaking fees with your new discovery.

The HK meseros IMHO, are starting to become much more worse, and rowdy, especially the new faces.

There are a couple of old faces in there (not old by age, but just being around longer) , who still respects their distance with the customers and knows when no is no, but they are also the one smart enough to know that the regulars will look for them.

The new fucktards however, treat patrons like shit, push and shove guys out so they can make way for themselves. I make it a point to remember those assholes whenever I can so I can explicitly tell them I don't want their service when they come to me, (I have been elbowed / kneed a few times)

The good thing is that for an asian guy I am considered just a little taller (not as buff as Sbeach.). So whenever the meseros start trying to shove me around, I just convenient lift my elbow up by putting my hand on my shoulder and if they choose to walk right into it, hey, their fault, not mine.

[HelpRules]

MSclive, the "HK meseros weren't aggressive"? You must live in that parallel universe Stephen Hawking talks about in those discovery documentaries. You could make millions in speaking fees with your new discovery.

As far as CL is the US. You have to be nuts to use it. I have never used it because of these stings. It just isn't worth it to risk your career and have a record the rest of your life."prostitution" doesn't look good on the ol' job application.