General Reports

[ItsMeBeyatch]

Arrived at delta parking in Otay mesa $7. I was driven to the otay border crossing. Walked through. Pushed the button. Green means go. So I went. Exchanged $80 to pesos. Walked across to other side of the border crossing and got a cab to the zona for $10. The wait by car and by foot was nothing compared to San ysidro.

Went to eat next to the place from adelitas. Food was ok. Saw a pretty girl with glasses sit down to eat. Later I saw her at Hk. Glasses with a tatoo on her side. Actually she was more appealing with close on. She had that naughty secreatary look because of the glasses. Went to HK and fucked a Couple of SG's.

It's 4:30 and I leave the zona. I catch a blue and white cab across from Chicago club. $12 to otay mesa after I rejected the initial $14. Miguel is the driver. Nice guy. It's about a 10 min longer drive than san ysidro but I waited a total of 8 min in line. 8 min on a Saturday at 4:45. Called the delta parking guy to pick me up in front of the bank where they tell you to be and 15 min later he arrives and I'm of to the airport. I might never go through the San ysidro border again unless I have a ready card. I probably paid an extra $10 in total for parking on the otay mesa side with cab fair but I saved so much time.

Thanks for the helpful post's and recommendations guys.

[WildTimes1]

You're conflating many different kinds of girls. Let me help.

1. Alley Girls, aka Street Girls, aka Paraditas. These girls stand along Constitucion and the alley (Callejon Coahuila) and try to attract customers. The standard is roughly $20. This gets you 20 minutes in a shitty hotel (or Cascadas if you pick one on that side of the alley). Usually, it's just pull off the panties and you go at it for 20 minutes. Full nude, CBJ, etc, will cost more. If you like wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am style quickies, this is the best value.

2. Club Girls. These work in a club like HK, or Adelita, etc. The standard rate is $60 for a 1/2 hour session in the attached hotel. The girls may NOT go to other hotels. Lately, the complaint about HK is that the girls are insisting on anywhere from $80 to $120 for a half-hour session...

As an older man, I'm picky about the providers I see. If she's not cute and hot, forget it. That's why I prefer the agency girls. Consistent quality and performance. But I don't like paying their normal hourly rates, so I typically go for the overnight special. 8 hours for between $300 and $400. As many pops as I want and since it not just a slam-bam, the girls typically give more of a GFE.

[Leo Ryder]

Tijuana is no longer so utterly dependent on tourism dollars. The economy is motoring along, fueled in no small part by manufacturing.

Between the recession and idiotic US Gov't policies after 9/11, Tijuana was in a world of hurt for a couple of years. But Tijuana has reinvented itself. The old days of a bazillion gringos partying until 4am along Revu are over and I don't think they're coming back any time soon. But in their place are loads of locals partying hearty on the weekends. The young Mexicanos have much more spending money than before, thanks to a better economy, and they don't mind spending it.

I think you'll see more of that. More local bars along Revu and other party areas. Tijuana has already become something of a foodie destination and I think that trend will continue. It seems that Tijuana doesn't need the tourist dollars as badly as in the past and I don't see loads of tourists coming back for several years.

As far as the bars in the zona go, Hong Kong will remain on top for a while. Americans tend to like everything spoon fed to them and "in your face." HK hit upon a winning formula so the bullshit there will continue for some time. IMHO, feminism has so emasculated the average American male that they are willing to put up with just about anything for pussy.

Thank Phordphan, I so agree with you. Recently I am reading a book by Shannon O' Neil named "Two nations, indivisible". It is simply fantastic. Mexico is the emerging and upcoming economy that will replace China in the next 5 to 10 years. With its ever growing young population, it holds tremendous potential and strength economically and politically that no super powers in the world would dare to ignore. Recently China's president visited Mexico before he visited USA. It never happened like this before. You got to see the "King of the USA" before you see anyone else in USA's backyard. But it just happened, like it or not.

Appreciate your input, very insightful.

Gracias, Tony

[Phordphan]

I remember the good old days when good old Chicago was the jewel of the crown. So much fun was had by so many at this club. Now it is Hong Kong, Hong Kong and Hong Kong. The taxi drivers would always ask me: "Hong Kong?" Well Hong Kong is not my cup of tea, too business like, too commercial and too phony. I would like to hear some analysis, experiences and perspectives from you guys out there regarding the overall economic picture of Tijuana and Mexico today and the bars etc. Thanks.

Tijuana is no longer so utterly dependent on tourism dollars. The economy is motoring along, fueled in no small part by manufacturing.

Between the recession and idiotic US Gov't policies after 9/11, Tijuana was in a world of hurt for a couple of years. But Tijuana has reinvented itself. The old days of a bazillion gringos partying until 4am along Revu are over and I don't think they're coming back any time soon. But in their place are loads of locals partying hearty on the weekends. The young Mexicanos have much more spending money than before, thanks to a better economy, and they don't mind spending it.

I think you'll see more of that. More local bars along Revu and other party areas. Tijuana has already become something of a foodie destination and I think that trend will continue. It seems that Tijuana doesn't need the tourist dollars as badly as in the past and I don't see loads of tourists coming back for several years.

As far as the bars in the zona go, Hong Kong will remain on top for a while. Americans tend to like everything spoon fed to them and "in your face." HK hit upon a winning formula so the bullshit there will continue for some time. IMHO, feminism has so emasculated the average American male that they are willing to put up with just about anything for pussy.

[Keg]

Well, Bob Filner has just resigned. Now does anybody want to bet he'll be heading down to the zona for some female gropping?

[JPF]

A few years back during the drug wars, police corruption and economic recession, the whole place became a ghost town.

I think that one significant factor you didn't mention was the increased hassle of crossing the border back to the US after 9/11. Many people didn't have passports and the long waits deterred many. Now, people are getting used to the security state and have passports or passport cards (and soon enhanced driver's licenses) and they are trying to improve the border crossing with new lines, etc.

[Leo Ryder]

Hello guys, I like to walk down Avenida Revolucion just to look at the people and eat some authentic Mexican food. I have done this over the span of last 20 years, not frequently, but once in a while, sometimes years. I remember that 20 years ago, the minute you crossed the border, you could see horse pulled carts and smelled the horse shit. However, the streets in the tourist area at that time were filled with people, mostly tourists from USA. About 10 or more years back, the walk way down Revolucion was rebuilt with nice pedestrian amenities decorated with ancient Mayan and Aztec sculptures, chairs and fountains. Again the place was bustling with vendors and tourists. A few years back during the drug wars, police corruption and economic recession, the whole place became a ghost town. However as of now, it seems to me the economy is slowly reviving. I could see some tourists, some vendors, some life coming back. And to my surprise, the good old Tijuana zebra was still standing there munching on some corn leaves.

I remember the good old days when good old Chicago was the jewel of the crown. So much fun was had by so many at this club. Now it is Hong Kong, Hong Kong and Hong Kong. The taxi drivers would always ask me: "Hong Kong?" Well Hong Kong is not my cup of tea, too business like, too commercial and too phony. I would like to hear some analysis, experiences and perspectives from you guys out there regarding the overall economic picture of Tijuana and Mexico today and the bars etc. Thanks.

Tony

[Keg]

RESPECT- FUCK NO! These guys are a bunch of ASSHOLES! (for the most part!) I go out of my way to get my "novia" to give me a kiss on my cheek (in BRIGHT RED HOOKER LIPSTICK)! And when they ask what I was doing in Mexico I POINT to it! Jajaja!

LOL, the lipstick mark has got me questions a couple of times, not intentionally done like you though!

I think where respect is shown then respect is given. Majority of the times I've not had any issues with CBP at the crossing, some have even been humorous. Once in a while there will be an a-hole (men and women CBP) , you can tell by a judgmental look and snide comments, I don't say anything disrespectful back, only give brief responses.

You're right to have a sense of humor about it.

Cheers,

Keg

[Leo Ryder]

RESPECT- FUCK NO! These guys are a bunch of ASSHOLES! (for the most part!) I go out of my way to get my "novia" to give me a kiss on my cheek (in BRIGHT RED HOOKER LIPSTICK)! And when they ask what I was doing in Mexico I POINT to it! Jajaja!

I have been to a few countries in the world. And by far, the German and the US customs agents are the rudest. They are full of arrogance and ignorance. Well maybe it is justified for them to behave like that since everyone in the world is still doing whatever it takes to seek El Sueno Americana. They would say: "If you can't put up with this shit, then stay where you are". This shit does not improve the US image, and it does not help either when Snowden exposed the hypocrisy on the part of the US government spying on its own people while accusing others of violating human rights by doing exactly the same. And now in the news, the random thrill killing of an Australian athlete by some bratty stupid and ignorant American teenagers will further tarnish the glory of the almighty nation on earth.

[GolfSexRroll]

Great TR,

This happened to me many times. One time the CBP guy asked me: "Where are you going to?" I answered: "Back home." He then raised his fucking voice: "Where is your home?" Now to save some breath I just say the city. They also asked me: "What did you do in Tijuana?" Is this their fucking business? I normally just say: "Talking a walk". Well, you got to understand these guys are doing some of the most boring jobs in the world, so show them some respect and appreciation and they also make your life a little easier.

RESPECT- FUCK NO! These guys are a bunch of ASSHOLES! (for the most part!) I go out of my way to get my "novia" to give me a kiss on my cheek (in BRIGHT RED HOOKER LIPSTICK)! And when they ask what I was doing in Mexico I POINT to it! Jajaja!

[Leo Ryder]

. The line wasn't short, it wasn't there. 0 people ahead of me. Of course, the asshole CBP guy asked if I was bringing anything back. I said no. He then asked the same thing they've all been asking lately; Where are you going? Where does it look like, asshole? White guy, coming from Mexico? I always say "Home." That used to make them happy, now they ask where that it. So, I told him the city. Then dickwad says "What are you doing HERE?" Like I beamed in from Mars, I suppose, and just happened to land in Mexico. I looked him straight in the eye and said "Visiting friends." I was mentally daring him to dig deeper, but he just handed my SENTRI card back to me. What a putz.

I guess it was my lucky day, because traffic from and to was light.

Damages, excluding gas. 100p for initial cab. 30p for collectivo. 100p for beers. 200p for room. 150p for food, extra drinks and tip. 1000p for her. 70p for cab. About $130 for a very pleasant afternoon.

Great TR,

This happened to me many times. One time the CBP guy asked me: "Where are you going to?" I answered: "Back home." He then raised his fucking voice: "Where is your home?" Now to save some breath I just say the city. They also asked me: "What did you do in Tijuana?" Is this their fucking business? I normally just say: "Talking a walk". Well, you got to understand these guys are doing some of the most boring jobs in the world, so show them some respect and appreciation and they also make your life a little easier.

[Phordphan]

didn't have any appointments scheduled for monday. coincidentally, rocky the flying squirrel had been texting me, wondering when i was going to return. well, why not?

i rolled into otay about 12:30, changed some money and was at her doorstep by about 1:00, 100 pesos lighter due to the confirep001ory rates charged by the gold cabs.

we took the collective over to 7-11 and bought some cervezas and some skyy vodka drinks. then it was off to the no-tel. 200p for 4 hours.

after examining the menu we ordered some room service. even in a small love motel, in an industrial part of tijuana, the food that shows up is still damn good. the guacamole with my quesadilla was fresh and delicious.

so, for the next 4 hours, or so, we proceeded to have lunch, get pleasantly buzzed, listen to some music and have some very good sex. my poor spanish is strained to the max, but i guess it's good for me. the nietzschean method for learning a foreign language, i suppose.

it was getting late and i had a long drive or i would have had some delicious tacos as tacos poblanos de otay, or a name to that effect. so, we walked across the street and caught a cab. i got dropped at the border. it was approaching 6pm and the line wasn't short, it wasn't there. 0 people ahead of me. of course, the asshole cbp guy asked if i was bringing anything back. i said no. he then asked the same thing they've all been asking lately; where are you going? where does it look like, asshole? white guy, coming from mexico? i always say "home." that used to make them happy, now they ask where that it. so, i told him the city. then dickwad says "what are you doing here?" like i beamed in from mars, i suppose, and just happened to land in mexico. i looked him straight in the eye and said "visiting friends." i was mentally daring him to dig deeper, but he just handed my sentri card back to me. what a putz.

i guess it was my lucky day, because traffic from and to was light.

damages, excluding gas. 100p for initial cab. 30p for collectivo. 100p for beers. 200p for room. 150p for food, extra drinks and tip. 1000p for her. 70p for cab. about $130 for a very pleasant afternoon.

[Keg]

Between 8th and 9th on Revu, west side. Can't miss it. Big gorilla on the sign.

Remembered there was a discussion about Coko Bongo, so I took a pic when I crossed Revo on my way to eat.

[Burma Jones]

Riding in the front is a strictly local Mexican thing. My guess is that it may have originated in DF, where so many of the taxis, for so long, were VW Beetles. In any case, I've never seen a single female hop in the front of a cab, and certainly couples ride in the back. But you make a good point.

I always just hopped in the front. One of those "how to not look like a gringo" suggestions. Plus, I am always amazed about the driving etiquette. Is there a right of way in Tijuana? The last cab I took, we got to a round about, the driver shot for the far right lane, didn't stop, laid on the horn, and shot around the outside edge past three of the exits until we made ours. The other drivers just got out of his way and no way seemed dazed. Normally, I wouldn't have cared as much in the smaller, more nimble Taxi Libre's but this was a blue and white Crown Vic with 330, 000 miles on the odometer. Sure, if we got hit, it would've been safer in the bigger vehicle but the days of two wheeled, Blues Brother cop car scenario were way behind for this creaking hunk.

[Phordphan]

Can someone explain what Otay Mesa is and why I would want to pay 12 to get there.

Google Maps is your friend.

For many years there has been an alternate crossing point in the suburb of Otay Mesa. It's a few miles east of downtown Tijuana. Basically, it's used for all the heavy truck traffic. There is also a fair sized automobile facility, as well as a pedestrian crossing point. Many locals cross at this point due to the insane lines at San Ysidro.

OM is much smaller than the SY crossing, so on busy days it can be as long a wait as SY. However, generally speaking, it's a much shorter wait. This is great for folks who only have a regular passport. If you have an RFID-type document it may be a bit shorter than SY because the Ready lane starts at the beginning of the line, as opposed to SY, which starts inside the turnstile (at least last time I was at SY).

Of course, the down side is parking. If you park in SY you have to cab it from OM back to SY. If you park in OM you have to cab back and forth to Centro. It may not be worth the hassle, depending on what time you cross.

I only use OM when I'm seeing a girl who lives in the area.