General Reports

[Mr Enternational]

Damn dude! You did all that in one night? And you paid for a bar girl? I'm starting to believe in god!

Well you shouldn't. My wingman talked me into the Adelitas girl, saying you only live once. Plus I just happened to bring more money than I usually do. I will say that she was probably the best pussy I have had in Tijuana. She kept trying to reach for the KY but I kept telling her no. She was already wet, so there was no need for that shit. I wanted to fuck pussy, not fuck KY. But when time is up they really want you out of that room. The guy kept banging on the door every 10 seconds. Then had the nerve to ask for a tip when I left out.

[TomJackin]

Just took a taxi from that spot. Also back from the Zona to that spot. 50 pesos each way. Tomjackin I looked all over for you. I hit 2 SW for 200 pesos each and one chick in Adelitas for $50+$13 for the room for 30 minutes.

Damn dude!

You did all that in one night?

And you paid for a bar girl?

I'm starting to believe in god!

See you soon!

[Hargow20]

Some people talk about how the girls are forced into the trade by the sex traffickers. But in my mind it's still their choice in the end. If the girls want to quit their is nothing stopping them walking out the door and leaving the trade. Sure the girls can claim economic circumstances, but then again it's still their choice. The other factor is that there is cops all around the Zona. So the girls can complain to to policia if some pimp is threatening them. I do feel sorry that some of the SG's have been doing it so long. But I still view it as their choice.

Someone said that most of these girls are forced into this life and not always by a pimp. This is actually true. I have yet to have any girl admit to me she is there because she was kidnapped. I mean unless they lie. Although I suspect that if any are it would more likely be the street girls, as I've seen a few that have a look that they obviously don't want to be there. Some I've even seen with tears running down their face while some asian mongers pointed out she was crying, laughed and walked away. I felt ashamed to be a monger that day : (

One of my favoritas that I've known for a while and very personally (by personally I mean she's even invited me to her home and introduced me to her family). She got into the trade because she was a desperate single mother. Things went well at first because she said she used to get like 10 customers or more per day working the bars making some good money. She was, in her words,"viviendo la vida buena" which translates to,"living the good life." Of course that was back then. Now that she's older and with the slowdown of the Zona, she hardly gets any customers. But this is all she knows. It's the only real job she's ever had and she's racking her brain now realizing that she's not getting anywhere in life and that things are only going to get worse while the bills keep piling up.

[Mr Enternational]

Just took a taxi from that spot. Also back from the Zona to that spot. 50 pesos each way. Tomjackin I looked all over for you. I hit 2 SW for 200 pesos each and one chick in Adelitas for $50+$13 for the room for 30 minutes.

[Phordphan]

If you cross during the day you might want to try this.

Normally if one wanted a Taxi Libre, after entering Mexico via the new entrance, one walked up the steps of the first pedestrian bridge, across the street to the Taxis Economicas, past them to the McDonalds, turned left and walked to the traffic circle and nabbed a Libre.

Instead, after entering Mexico, bear right at the fork and follow the signs that say Hotel & Casino. You'll see signs for another pedestrian bridge with an arrow and the word Tijuana on it. Follow the path up to the top of the rise. But, instead of turning right and walking across the bridge towards the traffic circle, step over the low spot between the concrete retainer wall and the beginning of the barrier fence that separates the bridge's walkway from the traffic lanes. Wait a few seconds and a Libre will be along because, now that the upper drop-off point is now a Yellow Cab stand, the Libres can no longer park there. Flag one down and they'll be thrilled to take you to Centro, the Ticuan or Zona Norte for 50 pesos.

[Phordphan]

a few nights ago i was half working around the house and half watching a cnbc report that included a section regarding prostitution in tijuana. most of the report seemed accurate, but there were a few things that i couldn't believe.

first, one street girl said she has about 30 customers per day at $20 per date. there was no video of the girl, so i don't know which one it was. i find it hard to believe that any of those girls has that many dates. from what i can tell, even the best ones spend most of their time outside waiting for a customer.

second, the report said that 80% of the girls are forced into prostitution. they claimed that most of them were kidnapped from central mexico towns and brought to tijuana. they also said that only a very few are from tijuana. i find much of this hard to believe, when i talk to them it seems that they view prostitution as the only way to make that much money, but i don't see indication that they are actually forced into it. i also don't see any indication that hey want to do regular work for 1000 pesos a week (or whatever they can make).

third, they were talking about the strip bars and included some video inside a bar (i think it was ab). the description seemed accurate until they talked about younger girls. the report said that customers can ask for younger girls and they have a back room where younger prostitutes are available for additional money. i've never seen an indication that there is a hidden room with younger girls and i don't remember monger reports about it.

perhaps i didn't listen to the report accurately and missed some report details, or, maybe i look at tijuana through rose colored glasses. i'd like to hear some other experienced mongers' views on this.

horsetrader

one of the things everybody needs to take into consideration is that so much of the "reporting" we hear regarding the sex industry is fueled by radical feminist viewpoints.

1. no woman would voluntarily sleep with a man for money.

2. all women in the sex industry are being exploited by eeeeevil men.

3. far and away most of the women are "victims" and have been trafficked into the industry. we know this because of rule #1.

once you proceed from these "facts," you get crap like this documentary and others of its ilk. there isn't a girl in the zona who gets 30 customers a day. maybe some of the low-end "local only" girls, if a strawberry bus drops of a load of pickers, might get flooded on occasion. :d other than that, we can all see for ourselves that this claim is specious at best.

again, since no woman would sleep with a man for money, it follows that all women who do are forced into it. yes, there are plenty of padrotes. some say most of the sgs have them, others say it's a minority. who knows? i've known several club girls over the years and none of them had a padrote. one told me she had two sons, and they were her padrotes. i think every girl i've ever talked to was there of their own volition. nobody ever mentioned kidnapping, not that they would. but almost everyone talked of their family. how often they visited, etc, and life outside of work (kids, school, etc.) i think the kidnap story is pure self-serving ngo bullshit. i will say that few of the hookers are from tijuana. but that's not unusual. mexico, like other developing countries, has a couple of large cities that attract workers of all kinds from all over the country. tijuana has a very busy nightlife scene, and if you're going to peddle your ass, tijuana is probably the best place for doing it.

i think everyone here has combed almost every inch of every bar in the zona. a secret room where **** girls are available for a price? wow. that's a story that, as they say in the journalism business, is too good to check. sure, **** girls are available in every country on the face of the earth if you know where to look. but i'm giggling at the mental image of sneaking into ab, slinking to the back room and knocking on a door. the judas hole opens up. si? jose sent me. ok. pasale. riiight. somebody has been watching too many movies.

[Tratnguyen1]

Someone said that most of these girls are forced into this life and not always by a pimp. This is actually true. I have yet to have any girl admit to me she is there because she was kidnapped. I mean unless they lie. Although I suspect that if any are it would more likely be the street girls, as I've seen a few that have a look that they obviously don't want to be there. Some I've even seen with tears running down their face while some asian mongers pointed out she was crying, laughed and walked away. I felt ashamed to be a monger that day....

Gents,

L have been in T. J. For quite a long time since the early 80's and still keep go south of border for entertainment a great choice when you live in southern California. I talked to a lot of chicas when I visit Tijuana. , the SG. BG. Are mainly I am only interested in for a relax times. All chicas give me answered very straight forwards " making money to support " their own life and their kids that all I heard. No Pimp. No kidnapped. No body forced them into the trade. However, I have No ideal how and what those chicas pay to work in the bars, or standing at the front of motel.

[Efjayel]

Someone said that most of these girls are forced into this life and not always by a pimp. This is actually true. I have yet to have any girl admit to me she is there because she was kidnapped. I mean unless they lie. Although I suspect that if any are it would more likely be the street girls, as I've seen a few that have a look that they obviously don't want to be there. Some I've even seen with tears running down their face while some asian mongers pointed out she was crying, laughed and walked away. I felt ashamed to be a monger that day : (

One of my favoritas that I've known for a while and very personally (by personally I mean she's even invited me to her home and introduced me to her family). She got into the trade because she was a desperate single mother. Things went well at first because she said she used to get like 10 customers or more per day working the bars making some good money. She was, in her words,"viviendo la vida buena" which translates to,"living the good life." Of course that was back then. Now that she's older and with the slowdown of the Zona, she hardly gets any customers. But this is all she knows. It's the only real job she's ever had and she's racking her brain now realizing that she's not getting anywhere in life and that things are only going to get worse while the bills keep piling up.

[TomJackin]

Rosarito strip clubs will have higher prices than Tijuana and less of a choice of chicas. Most of the girls have worked in Tijuana (hint hint they know Tijuana pricing) and did not liked the hard core sell and volume hence they end up in Rosarito. Also one bar seems to be the retirement / last stop place for older women that should be out of the business. Remember to negotiate as opening offers are outrageous as Rosarito gets the older gringo with a little money willing overpay.

Hey John,

Thanks for the information about the Rosarito strip clubs. It was a well put together summary.

[Ath Trainer]

Very interesting report, thanks for sharing.

On your 1st point, my take on this is, we see the "best ones" on the street because the "better than best ones" are always busy.

Not saying that is the norm, just saying that there is always that possibility. We only see what we see on the streets because they are the ones that people don't go for as much.

On the 2nd point, agreed with you. I had a few regulars in the back alley. A few who were not single moms (yet) , then they kind of fucked their way into the mess and now has to rely on prostitution to survive. In my limited understanding of Latina logic, that is their sense of "forced". Meaning, life forced them into it, and not necessarily some pimp. Having a business myself down there right now (note my subtle advertisement, and thanks to Joe Arturo's advice that has always rang in my ears). The uneducated ones are really lazy, fucking lazy, beyond belief, won't even walk 3 blocks without hailing a taxi. So yeah, hard to believe they would go for some other "honest" work.

On the 3rd point, I think that is baloney, someone would have caught that by now THOUGH I am sure with the right connection (s) , the bars can get you hooked up with younger girls. Not directly tied to the bar though, I don't think they can risk doing that. If one of the public bars is caught with younger girls they probably risk fucking up the entire zona.

Anyway, did my regular trip down there for this and that. Was going to meet up with a new friend but he was nowhere to be seen. Bumped into TomJackin' twice at his usual spots enjoying his adult beverage. A few notable things. HK seems to have just a ton of new chicas showing up, quality is to each his own, but I wonder if this will eventually force them to adjust their attitude / price a little bit since I am pretty sure the rate of chicas going arriba is just not that high (I have stood there for a long time waiting for transportation so I have a certain level of confidence). Nina was back in HK with her bf in regular street clothes. All I can say is, damn women always change when they settle down, never settle down with them. You end up getting something you didn't originally sign up for. I think there was this joke online that says girls marry guys thinking they would change but they never, and guys marry girls thinking they would never change but they always do.

Las Chavelas was decent. A taller nicer built chica shook hands with me but alas I was too caught up talking to TomJackin' I forgot to take note of her face, missed connection.

AB seems to be picking up some foot traffic though I would agree with another fellow monger who posted. Seems that hottie central these days are packed with more Amazonian these days.

Far from an expert, but I do my homework, and just completed a 3 day chica seminar in Tijuana, LOL.

Girls lie about how many customer they have. Some girls go home w / o 1some days.

I say many nice chicas not getting a sniff form a guy in hrs.

Most will make up stories why they are in the business. Never their choice.

[John Magellan]

Hey all, I don't post much anymore cause married but.

Am headed to Rosarito Beach for a weekend with the wife. She has long talked about, yep, a 3-some (no not with another dude) but she is embarrassed, and not sure. Closest we came was at a strip bar in Ensenada

Where we got a private dance and she played grab ass with the stripper.

So, am looking for any recommendations in Rosarito. If they have a decent strip club so it's not so much in her face as a Adelitas that would be great, but all recommendations welcome (even good restaurants!)

Thanks!

Rosarito strip clubs will have higher prices than Tijuana and less of a choice of chicas. Most of the girls have worked in Tijuana (hint hint they know Tijuana pricing) and did not liked the hard core sell and volume hence they end up in Rosarito. Also one bar seems to be the retirement / last stop place for older women that should be out of the business. Remember to negotiate as opening offers are outrageous as Rosarito gets the older gringo with a little money willing overpay.

There are approximately 4 strip bars in Rosarito, all on the south part of town strip, Heading south on the free road (exit at last Pemex 7-Eleven before tol booth) they are in this order, Doll House, Bar Barbies, Bada Bing, and Prestige. All but Bada Bing are on the east side of the street.

Bar Barbies (same owner as Bada Bing, different manager) was my favorite as the atmosphere was more relaxed. Dancers were a mixed bag on looks but all were very approachable and friendly. Wait staff good and not pushy, one waiter actually returned a 500 peso bill I had dropped on the floor.

Bada Bing (next to and OXXO) has been there the longest, easiest to find, priciest, and is the biggest. Unfortunately many of the girls are very old (reason for almost no lights inside) , some over 50, and the wait staff is great at bad service, over billing, all the great things you can expect in a strip club designed to chingar los gringos (fuck the gringos). Highly not recommended.

Dollhouse is new and very aggressive chicas and wait staff, did not like the vibe, felt everyone was trying very hard to rip you off.

Prestige is just south of Bada Bing on the other side of street, only been there once, did not like the vibe, they are really proud of their light show we found annoying / blinding.

No great food found in Rosarito (I am picky) , favorite bar / restaurant would be Splash Cantina south of town about 20 minutes. Oceanfront, OK food, great ambiance, live music and dancing. Mainly the older local gringo crowd but some good looking locals do come there on the weekend to dance.

http://www.splashcantina.com/directions.html

Also north of Splash about 5 minutes in Cantamar is a place with great live music and dancing, used to be called The Palms, think it is now name Ruiz, has lots of signs about specials and live music. More gringos but also locals, good mix.

Enjoy!

[Guitarrefreak]

A few nights ago I was half working around the house and half watching a CNBC report that included a section regarding prostitution in Tijuana. Most of the report seemed accurate, but there were a few things that I couldn't believe.

First, one street girl said she has about 30 customers per day at $20 per date. There was no video of the girl, so I don't know which one it was. I find it hard to believe that any of those girls has that many dates. From what I can tell, even the best ones spend most of their time outside waiting for a customer.

Second, the report said that 80% of the girls are forced into prostitution. They claimed that most of them were kidnapped from central Mexico towns and brought to Tijuana. They also said that only a very few are from Tijuana. I find much of this hard to believe, when I talk to them it seems that they view prostitution as the only way to make that much money, but I don't see indication that they are actually forced into it. I also don't see any indication that hey want to do regular work for 1000 pesos a week (or whatever they can make).

Third, they were talking about the strip bars and included some video inside a bar (I think it was AB). The description seemed accurate until they talked about younger girls. The report said that customers can ask for younger girls and they have a back room where younger prostitutes are available for additional money. I've never seen an indication that there is a hidden room with younger girls and I don't remember monger reports about it.

Perhaps I didn't listen to the report accurately and missed some report details, or, maybe I look at Tijuana through rose colored glasses. I'd like to hear some other experienced mongers' views on this.

Horsetrader

Very interesting report, thanks for sharing.

On your 1st point, my take on this is, we see the "best ones" on the street because the "better than best ones" are always busy.

Not saying that is the norm, just saying that there is always that possibility. We only see what we see on the streets because they are the ones that people don't go for as much.

On the 2nd point, agreed with you. I had a few regulars in the back alley. A few who were not single moms (yet) , then they kind of fucked their way into the mess and now has to rely on prostitution to survive. In my limited understanding of Latina logic, that is their sense of "forced". Meaning, life forced them into it, and not necessarily some pimp. Having a business myself down there right now (note my subtle advertisement, and thanks to Joe Arturo's advice that has always rang in my ears). The uneducated ones are really lazy, fucking lazy, beyond belief, won't even walk 3 blocks without hailing a taxi. So yeah, hard to believe they would go for some other "honest" work.

On the 3rd point, I think that is baloney, someone would have caught that by now THOUGH I am sure with the right connection (s) , the bars can get you hooked up with younger girls. Not directly tied to the bar though, I don't think they can risk doing that. If one of the public bars is caught with younger girls they probably risk fucking up the entire zona.

Anyway, did my regular trip down there for this and that. Was going to meet up with a new friend but he was nowhere to be seen. Bumped into TomJackin' twice at his usual spots enjoying his adult beverage. A few notable things. HK seems to have just a ton of new chicas showing up, quality is to each his own, but I wonder if this will eventually force them to adjust their attitude / price a little bit since I am pretty sure the rate of chicas going arriba is just not that high (I have stood there for a long time waiting for transportation so I have a certain level of confidence). Nina was back in HK with her bf in regular street clothes. All I can say is, damn women always change when they settle down, never settle down with them. You end up getting something you didn't originally sign up for. I think there was this joke online that says girls marry guys thinking they would change but they never, and guys marry girls thinking they would never change but they always do.

Las Chavelas was decent. A taller nicer built chica shook hands with me but alas I was too caught up talking to TomJackin' I forgot to take note of her face, missed connection.

AB seems to be picking up some foot traffic though I would agree with another fellow monger who posted. Seems that hottie central these days are packed with more Amazonian these days.

[HorseTrader]

A few nights ago I was half working around the house and half watching a CNBC report that included a section regarding prostitution in Tijuana. Most of the report seemed accurate, but there were a few things that I couldn't believe.

First, one street girl said she has about 30 customers per day at $20 per date. There was no video of the girl, so I don't know which one it was. I find it hard to believe that any of those girls has that many dates. From what I can tell, even the best ones spend most of their time outside waiting for a customer.

Second, the report said that 80% of the girls are forced into prostitution. They claimed that most of them were kidnapped from central Mexico towns and brought to Tijuana. They also said that only a very few are from Tijuana. I find much of this hard to believe, when I talk to them it seems that they view prostitution as the only way to make that much money, but I don't see indication that they are actually forced into it. I also don't see any indication that hey want to do regular work for 1000 pesos a week (or whatever they can make).

Third, they were talking about the strip bars and included some video inside a bar (I think it was AB). The description seemed accurate until they talked about younger girls. The report said that customers can ask for younger girls and they have a back room where younger prostitutes are available for additional money. I've never seen an indication that there is a hidden room with younger girls and I don't remember monger reports about it.

Perhaps I didn't listen to the report accurately and missed some report details, or, maybe I look at Tijuana through rose colored glasses. I'd like to hear some other experienced mongers' views on this.

Horsetrader

[Migrant One]

Thanks Guys! If successful I'l post a report, if not you'll see me in some corner crying

[Guitarrefreak]

I don't think you will find what you are looking for in Rosarito. I could be wrong (it damn sure would not be the first time). Last time I went to Rosarito and Ensenada, they both were like ghost towns.

+ 1 on rosarito ghost town, unless you want to fine civies, then anywhere is fair game.

+ 0. 5 on ensenada, mmm. I don't know, the bar street seems pretty ok, but then again, options are not as abundant as Tijuana for sure.

If rosarito was the destination, may as well head back up to Tijuana and pick one up for an all nighter.

And damn the lucky guy whose wife wants a 3-some.