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11-03-11 06:54 #5801
Posts: 7Tijuana: 10/27-10/29. Luxor & Black Bull
So I haven't read about this one and it seems to be a local favorite. You like girls that are between 20-24 and clean? What about a nice massage?
Well, Luxor provides more of the former than the later. And it's FANTASTIC. Get a cab ride to Paseo Centenario #9211 Local 12 in Zona Rio. It's next to the Casino. It's your standard massage. They're looking for $65US@the door and $100US inside the room. I was able to talk the guy down to $550MEX for the room and $1000MEX for the massagi.
Was it worth it? I would say it was fun but I wouldn't do it again. Not GFE and the table sucked. You can pull the girls out of there I hear for about $60US without much hassle. Bring them next door to the casino / hotel and work it out.
Black Bull was a mixed bag. It's across from the Hotel Ticuan and has some ok girls in there. You can get a massage in the place for $45 and work out the difference with the girl in the room. OR you can bring them to your room at the Ticuan for $60 or so and work out the difference with the girl. My friend said he did bareback everything with this 18 year-old spinner for $1000MEX on her first two weeks on the job. The next time he saw her, she wanted the same but covered. Which was probably for the better. I don't really trust these girls (and no one should). The night shift was ok. The Black Bull has a bar next door where the drinks are $5 / ea and the music is ok. They dance and chill until their boss calls them next door for a lineup. I hear it's a lot of fun and may do it next time. The girls probably will tumble around with you for between $60-80US. If you want anything special, you're paying more.
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11-03-11 06:09 #5800
Posts: 22Just heard this on the radio
On 102. 7, most popular radio station in LA. NBC4 is showing a documentary on "Tijuana Sex Trafficking" at 11.
Highlights:
Girl from Riverside caught up in the sex trade.
Little boys and girls.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...133094943.html
My guess is this is going to bring a shit load of people over to Tijuana this weekend.
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11-03-11 05:02 #5799
Posts: 7Tijuana: 10/27-10/29. General Report
So here's the general report of my travels. I'll point you guys to Adelitas, the message page or HK when I discuss them. Overall, EXCELLENT TRIP. I went with my friend who goes at least once a month or so for the past 26 years, so I was able to get around very easily.
Arrival at the border (10/27) :
So we arrive at the Otay Mesa border crossing around 6pm after kicking it in San Diego. Parking there is $7 / day and it's 10 minutes to the border on foot. So my buddy and I are crossing and reach the Border Patrol Agents at the card table before we hit the Mexican side. They pull us aside, seeing how we're carrying a suitcase each. They search our bags and start playing 20 questions with my friend.
Basically, my friend retorts,"Under USC 19, you can ask me if I have $10k or more on me and search my bags. That's all you can do."
The agent responds,"We can ask you where you're coming from, where you're going and what business you have in Mexico."
My friend,"Yes, you can ask. But I am not required to answer."
BPA,"Do you know you have 4 condoms in your bag?"
Friend,"Yes. So what."
BPA,"Just making sure you're not going over there to have sex with children. There is sex trafficking in Mexico of women."
At this point, it's a big WHOAAA."Are you accusing us of something? And I didn't realize you had jurisdiction in Mexico to enforce ANY laws with out a joint task force?"
BPA,"If you just answered our questions, this would have gone easier. Consider yourself delayed."
So here we are being delayed. After 10 minutes, we get our passports back and off we go. The Mexicans just look at us and smile like,"Whatever muchachos". We hop in a cab and go to the Hotel Ticuan. Cab ride was $18. WHEN YOU RETURN: Be sure that you are there NO LATER than 11PM. That border crossing closes at midnight. The best time to cross is around 8pm. On Saturday, there was NO LINE at that time and crossing was very easy.
The Hotel Ticuan is right off Revolution (Zona Centro). Las Pulgas is the club right on the corner that is next to the hotel and is one of the best clubs in Tijuana for locals. The hotel is $650MEX / night online. If you go in person, it's $700-$750MEX / night. Basically, ensure you do your reservation online. Across the street is the Black Bull (more on that in the Massage Parlor section). The rooms are clean, the restaurant and bar very good (and inexpensive) and the front desk speaks English. There is a drug store across the street that sells an assortment of things that you may need. Unfortunately, you better speak Spanish or it'll be a game of charades. The hotel was perfect and I wouldn't stay anywhere else. When I see locals there, you know it's good spot. It also has free WiFi.
Taxi cabs were $50-$60MEX wherever we went locally. Rosarito would have been about $300MEX there and back.
For a nice mall to chill at, check out la Plaza Rio in Zona Rio. It's right off the highway and has a telemex, cinema and tons of shops. There's also a lot to see. If you speak the language, it's easy to make acquaintance at the Starbucks (which also has free internet). I saw NO TOURISTS here. I blended because I look latino. My friend is pretty white, so everyone was looking at him like,"You lost?"
For restaurants, these are excellent spots and two of the best restaurants in Tijuana. You'll have some of the freshest seafood and beef compared to ANYWHERE. Los Archos (Blvd. Salinas No. 1000) is a seafood place. I had the trout and it was magnificent and the margaritas perfect. All said and done, it was $320 MEX for me. Between the drinks, appetizers and entree, well worth it. Don Diego (Francisco Javier Mina 1611) is excellent for beef. The rib eye was exquisite and perfectly marbled. Just be ready to have a map with directions there ready because the cabbies had NO IDEA where this place was. After appetizers and drinks, I was looking at about $260MEX. Aside from that, I ate at the restaurant at Hotel Ticuan ($30-40MEX / meal) and the taco stands at night.
I'll get into my experiences in Zona Roja in the appropriate sections. Basically, HK is the BEST PLACE TO GO. Adelitas is a close second. Also went to Luxor for a massagi and checked out the casino next store (a big digital bingo / slot machine arcade). Overall, it was fantastic to experience (which I'll get into shortly).
Cambios: I would exchange my cash to pesos. You get a better rate EVERYWHERE. Do it at the cambio around the corner from HK. They have the best rate and no commission. You are going to get the shaft with dollars. They're only good when you're tipping on stage, since you aren't going to tip $10MEX.
This is meant for information on where to stay and places to go. Check out my articles in the other sections for more specifics on my experiences at the clubs. Understand that when I go, I'm not the bargain tourist but I'm frugal. If you see it here, it's worth checking out and is worth the money laid out.
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11-03-11 03:04 #5798
Posts: 502Originally Posted by Winston569 [View Original Post]
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11-03-11 03:00 #5797
Posts: 502Originally Posted by Joe Arturo [View Original Post]
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11-03-11 02:02 #5796
Posts: 330Answers
Originally Posted by Winston569 [View Original Post]
Most of the bar girls will do a half hour "upstairs" for $60 or an hour for $100. I have been paying $200 for all night in my hotel room after their shift (or on their night off). If you want to do this, it is better to hit the afternoon girls. At Chicago Club they get off at 10 PM, at Adelitas and Hong Kong they get off between 8 and 10 PM depending what time they arrived.
Be sure to negotiate everything on the street with the street girls or they will up price you once you get in the hotel room.
And I know about those international divorces. I got married in Mexico and have been working on my Mexican divorce since July of 2009.
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11-03-11 01:56 #5795
Posts: 330Are You Serious!
Originally Posted by Madisonguy [View Original Post]
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11-03-11 01:37 #5794
Posts: 3851Originally Posted by Winston569 [View Original Post]
Ill break it down for you.
Bargirls $80.
Street Girls $ 20.
Escorts $150 and above.
Hotels.
$3 $5 $6 in the zona for 20/30 minutes.
$25/35 all day room in the Zona. Ask about extra fees for guests. There shouldn't be. Try Hotel Leyva or Cascadas. These could be your play house for the day or for the week. You choose.
Sometimes you can get a BG to your room at a hotel outside the zona but it may be too much of a hassle than its worth. Pick an option in your price range and focus on that. If you are only here for a few days don't waste your time negotiating for odd requests. Pick a price option research the services you get for it and let it flow. Tijuana is one monger destination where things happen on the fly. If you plan too much you might get really frustrated.
Good Luck
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11-03-11 01:17 #5793
Posts: 1Hello, Winston. Welcome back.
1. There are a lot of websites with girls advertised; are these any better than just tooling around Zona Norte and negotiating (I don't have much spanish)
The benefit of the escort sites, in my opinion, is simplicity. This is especially true if you don't speak Spanish and if you're looking for something other than "the usual", such as several hours or an overnight. These things can be arranged with most girls from the ZN bars on repeat visits, but that requires more negotiation and planning. If you want an overnight, on your first (recent) visit, and on a weekend, the escort sites would be pretty much the only way to arrange this. Some would say that the escort girls also tend to be "lower mileage"; I would agree with that in general, but there are plenty of exceptions in both directions.
On the other hand, the advantage of hunting in the ZN is variety. There are many girls, including plenty who are better looking than you will find on the escort sites. Their business is normally short-time encounters. For a half-hour encounter, they are, of course, cheaper than girls on the escort sites. For longer engagements, you will need to negotiate and your results will vary dramatically with the day of the week. If you want to spend a night with someone from a ZN bar, you will want to get her phone number and arrange a subsequent night with her. Then she can just not show up the bar that night, hence circumventing the contract with the neighboring hotel.
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2. In the past, the girls would have a room or would direct you to hotel; is it better just to have a room (e. G, Ticuan) prior to trolling.
The girls in the ZN (or at least at Adelita's and Hong Kong, which are the only places I consider worth a visit these days) will direct you to the associated hotel whether you like it or not. They are obliged to do so by their "contract". Again, it is possible to get around this with advanced notice and negotiation or at the end of shifts. (Most guys prefer to do this by arriving in the early evening to get girls coming off of a day shift, but it is also possible to get a girl coming off night shift at 5am!)
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3. Is it better to find girls in the clubs (and will they leave with you) , use the websites, or off the street?
As far as the street versus clubs, your eyes and wallet will answer that question for you quickly. The better looking girls are in the clubs, so if $60 for a short time is not out of your price range then that's most likely where you'll want to be.
The girls on the street are also less regulated. In theory, this should make it easier to arrange a long time with one away from the Zona. In practice, this is usually so unfamiliar to them that they are even more reluctant to stray from their usual hotel than the club girls are. Be aware that the street girls are also subjected to less stringent health and age controls than the club girls; then again, you should probably not be relying on the Mexican government to ensure the safety of your encounter.
On that note, be safe-and have a blast.
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11-03-11 01:06 #5792
Posts: 536Originally Posted by Winston569 [View Original Post]
IMHO you'll find it much nicer seeing a chica in person, as opposed to looking at a website. While you may not speak spanish, many chicas certainly know the english words for money and amounts, trust me. Nothing has changed since your last visit regarding a chica working in a specific club taking you upstairs to a designated hotel, it remains the same convenience (for the chica/club/hotel). You didn't mention how long is your trip, so staying at a hotel like Ticuan may be a good option for your comfort, but not necessarily the best option for the short-time chica experience. If you want to take a chica from a club to your hotel, just ask them, but it's not likely they'll leave a club to go with you if they don't know you (security) , and if they still have several hours remaining on their shift (money). Of course many things are possible in the Zona, you may just find a chica to go back with you, but it's not the standard, you should expect to pay more for your convenience.
Have fun.
Keg
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11-03-11 00:40 #5791
Posts: 22Couple of questions from Tijuana "Retread"
Hi guys, have been out of the hobby for a few years since hooking up with a lady from Toronto full-time (long story) and ending up where you would expect (international divorces are a pain in the ass, let me tell you!). Anyway, am heading to Tijuana after about 5 years off and have been looking on the boards for info, but thought I would ask directly:
1. There are a lot of websites with girls advertised; are these any better than just tooling around Zona Norte and negotiating (I don't have much spanish)
2. In the past, the girls would have a room or would direct you to hotel; is it better just to have a room (e. G, Ticuan) prior to trolling.
3. Is it better to find girls in the clubs (and will they leave with you) , use the websites, or off the street?
Thanks for any help. Will post when I return.
Until then, I remain,
Your obedient servant,
Winston
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11-02-11 18:46 #5790
Posts: 502Old news?
http://www.npr.org/2011/10/20/141571...fuels-violence
This is an interesting article I saw. It's so true but at the same time the US is finally doing the right thing instead of footing the bill. I met some very serious criminals deported from the US in Tijuana, they weren't bad guys they just grew up in bad neighborhoods. What's funny is these guys were good people that killed or attempted to kill people because that's what they were raised to think was necessary, but in Tijuana it doesn't take being in a gang to survive it takes money so they work their asses off for way less then minimum wage. I don't think the problem is as bad as they make it out to be, for the % of guys I met that were deported vs the crime I saw the numbers don't add up. Mexico is their prison.
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11-02-11 18:35 #5789
Posts: 502Taxi's it is better to pay in pesos especially with the exchange rate the way it is. They wanted $20 to get to Rosarito but when I said ok 200 pesos is good they would take it. At some point it gets to be too much but one night I felt cheap and told a guy I'd pay him 15 he said no, I walked away and he changed his mind quick. It would cost me $15 in gas to drive that here in the states. If you're going there a lot though I would get one taxi driver you know and call or text him when you need him, then you know prices and can trust the guy. You could also make sure to get english speaking taxi drivers.
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11-02-11 05:32 #5788
Posts: 178Originally Posted by Shortybh [View Original Post]
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11-02-11 01:06 #5787
Posts: 1Originally Posted by Sock111 [View Original Post]
There is also the Airport Only taxi's when you go from the Airport back to the Border. They try to inflate the price because they are "exclusive". The fare should be no more than $15. 00. Again. Negotiate before you get in the Taxi. And be ready to walk away.
Sometimes I tell the guy just bring me to the Taco Stand just past the first left turn heading to the border. Get out. Pay $3. 00. Eat some tacos. Wave down a yellow cab coming back from the airport (not allowed to pick up a passenger) and pay the normal $6.00 back to the border.