General Reports

[John Rain]

You have to understand something completely: she does not see the future in your eyes. She understands that you have no life in Mexico and that, most likely, you have no intention of making a life in Mexico with plans that would include her.

So her strategy is to earn income from you. There are no friends in business.

It is totally OK for you to like her. It is totally OK for her to like you. Nothing wrong with that. The problem develops when you mis-read her like for you as some sort of promise that a condition will exist with her into the future. The ONLY condition that will exist will be the condition of client (you) , and provider (her). That is unless you are willing to change your life.

Wise words. Even with my favorite SG novias that I have known for many years, they are working and I am playing. We are warm and friendly with each other, but I am a good customer and they good sex providers. We play nice together. We aren't friends, really, but we are friendly. I give money and they give sex, companionship, and affection. It works outs great for what we both seek. Doesn't mean there isn't some spill over of genuine emotion and caring between us, but I am primarily a client and they are primarily a provider.

Sometimes, it's useful to imagine, for just a moment, what it would take for me to be seriously in love with a woman 20-30 years my senior. Grab on to that thought for a moment. It always gives me the sober clarity I need.

[Country John]

It is always great to read a genuine post that knocks some sense back to oneself.

But thanks CJ for keeping it real and making sure none of us get ahead of ourselves.

Mongers scoot across the border with visions of sugarplums dancing on their heads and all kinds of things they want to do and fantasies to fulfill. Well, that's why the Zona is there. By the time we get there, we forgot all about the grand plans and just start looking for someone to nail. But there are so many choices. Confusion, confusion. Living next to a candy store just makes you go back for more and more and more.

But it's OK to like the girls. They happen to be people, too. In fact, mongers should add appreciation to their kit. Why? Because the quality of your session could depend on it. Most girls will deliver a good session to a good attitude and respectful demeanor, even if they are rats. You can set the tone for the session and give her a "benchmark." Now, she might have one eye trolling the room for your stuff as you glam slam her, but chances are she'll keep the session running well for you.

Some might mistake your appreciation and positive attitude for stupidity and ignorance because "everybody knows" hookers lie, steal and deliver bad sessions.

Not so fast. Not all girls are out to rip you off.

It is OK for you to like the girl, take her as your favorite and pay her a bit more for the extra effort she puts into making your session a good one. All that is cool.

The thing comes apart when she mis-interprets your good intention as an opening to "groom" you into a walking ATM machine. Or if she starts playing a guilt game with you. All the girls know very well that the arrangement is a business arrangement. The one's that would exploit that opportunity on a personal level are the ones to watch out for. If yuo see it coming and don't step out of the way, you could be in for a big hit.

So, like the girl. Always be square with the girls. Pay them what you owe them, and give them a tip if they deserve it. But keep one thing in mind: THERE ARE NO FRIENDS IN BUSINESS.

[Ready Ru]

CJ sir. I am glad you asked. I did not give her money for the session per se. Money was never brought up in our conversation and during our previous encounter. She also never asked for money (well, I actually had to leave before she became wide awake, but lets not get sucked into technical details here.). She got to the hotel w / me after we left the strip club. We took a cab there. About whether it is true she lives in rosarito. Good point, I do not know except for what she told me. It does not really matter (not to me anyways.)

Hey Guitar, You sound like a realy nice guy. A bit nieve. I'm just giving my two cents, but you have to remember. 1st and formost, these bar girls and sws are in for the money. Like someone said," do you think a young beautiful girl you just met will be your toy if not for the money?" Its a fantasy! Leave the love at home. God knows they are. Very few women can be trusted, especially those who spread for money. Just enjoy yourself for the moment and remember, THEY ALL LIE! If you want romance & love, find one at church. Thats not fullproof either.

[MadisonGuy]

It is always great to read a genuine post that knocks some sense back to oneself.

No arguments here. I am a scorpio, and in my travels, I have knack for getting myself into troubles like this. There have been times when things turned out to be sweet and great (we can talk about which part of the world this happen over an ice cold one but I digress).

I guess all I am looking for is a way to harden myself (no pun intended.). To be more resilient to the temptations of young, hot nubile chicks by allowing myself to fall into this briefly, just enough to see that she is in it for the money (maybe, most of the time) , and then finally realize that I am sick of dealing with this particular individual.

That being said, I can't help to derive a little joy and satisfaction knowing (or,"imagining") that I somehow have caused a working girl to develop some interest in me (see'mon guys, all of us do like to think that our dicks are actually bigger than they are right.). Maybe if it is just something that temporarily gives me a place to hide from the harsh realities of corporate america.

But thanks CJ for keeping it real and making sure none of us get ahead of ourselves.

I admire you for trying to change, but I've seen so few that can I don't know if it is possible for some and impossible for others. I can tell you this I act only 2 ways with girls, I either shower them and tell them I want to get married, or I ignore them and treat them like crap. Either way in the back of my head I know that they are only there for my amusement and when something better comes along I will jump on it. I think as long as you think like that you will be ok and I think your numbers of girls who fall for you will go up especially the really hot ones. Remember the hotter they are odds are the more insecure, which means the shittier you treat them the better. Regardless if you treat them good or not if you are thinking that they are just a piece of meat it will work the same. I don't know how it works and can't explain it but when you really turn into a asshole regardless of how you treat them they will still like you more. If you're really interested there's lots of books you can read that will help you pick up girls, over come objections like not wanting to have sex, all that good stuff. It may sound cold and it is, but I'd rather be cold and have tons of women than be nice and not have any.

[SuperSteve]

Hey Gfreak:

It was nice to see that someone could take another's point of view as it was intended, and not a knock on ones self. Country John posts many good thoughts. I am a better person for reading and taking in his words.

I understand that this is P4P and they are all in it for the money. If it wasn't for the money, do you think that women 1/3 to 1/2 my age would be going arriba with me. Of course they wouldn't. That does not mean that they are not real women, with hopes, dreams, and desires. They want to feel special, especially since they have to do what they are doing. I have a current favorita (which is very unlike me) , half my age, that will sit with me for a great deal of time, refuse more drinks, and is very passionate (GFE type) in la cama. She says that she likes me because "I make her happy". When we come back down she goes about her business of making money from drinks, and going arriba if she chooses. I will often sit in the bar while this is happening, and it serves many purposes. She can continue to make money instead of counting on me for more to just sit with me. I will ride this horse until it ends, and then NEXT!

I don't think that you need to "harden" yourself. There is nothing wrong with caring. If I can make a suggestion; there is a place in your body that when you are with a woman you like, and actually want, that you can feel intensely. It could be in your chest area, or possibly your head. Understand that when you get this feeling it is not serving you well. At that moment that you realize this feeling, step into yourself and thank it for showing you where you don't want to go. Immediately change that thought to a positive thought about what a good time you are going to have with this beautiful lady, for this moment in time only. This will not harden you, but actually make you happier, which will translate to the lady, hence a better session. Then again, I am probably full of sh*t. I'm sure that she does like you in a certain perspective as CJ so eloquently stated.

It is like I tell the ladies, about my unit, I am not grande I am gordo. It always gets a laugh, and their interest.

Health & happiness to all.

[Guitarrefreak]

It is always great to read a genuine post that knocks some sense back to oneself.

No arguments here. I am a scorpio, and in my travels, I have knack for getting myself into troubles like this. There have been times when things turned out to be sweet and great (we can talk about which part of the world this happen over an ice cold one but I digress).

I guess all I am looking for is a way to harden myself (no pun intended.). To be more resilient to the temptations of young, hot nubile chicks by allowing myself to fall into this briefly, just enough to see that she is in it for the money (maybe, most of the time) , and then finally realize that I am sick of dealing with this particular individual.

That being said, I can't help to derive a little joy and satisfaction knowing (or,"imagining") that I somehow have caused a working girl to develop some interest in me (see'mon guys, all of us do like to think that our dicks are actually bigger than they are right?.). Maybe if it is just something that temporarily gives me a place to hide from the harsh realities of corporate america.

But thanks CJ for keeping it real and making sure none of us get ahead of ourselves.

You have to understand something completely: she does not see the future in your eyes. She understands that you have no life in Mexico and that, most likely, you have no intention of making a life in Mexico with plans that would include her.

So her strategy is to earn income from you. There are no friends in business.

She seems to have tested your limits and developed parameters. You're good for an $80. 00 session (that works out to about $900 pesos, a lot of money for a few hours work). You might be good for more, she will have to continue working you to find out how much.

Soon, you'll get the message that her dad needs a brain operation and she needs to wire $2, 000 back to some place deeeeep in Mexico, or he will most certainly die. My girlfriends father died about four times before he actually did kick the bucket in my living room three years ago.

IN your situation, you might be able to sit down at your kitchen table and map your entire route to retirement. You can budget, you have credit, you have a steady income that you can see well into the future. Not so here. It's day to day, or week to week. There is no other profession that will bring her an income that will support her entire family like the sex industry. If she can line up several clients like you, she will be set for as long as she can keep you interested and excited (marketing).

It is totally OK for you to like her. It is totally OK for her to like you. Nothing wrong with that. The problem develops when you mis-read her like for you as some sort of promise that a condition will exist with her into the future. The ONLY condition that will exist will be the condition of client (you) , and provider (her). That is unless you are willing to change your life.

She will rely upon your "good faith" and inclination not to "cheat" on her, and your sense of guilt for even thinking about it. Her talent will be in the area of grooming those emotions to keep you in her corral.

So play the game the way you want to, but be very aware that her needs are different from yours and that her success will depend on her ability to keep you dreaming about her. Buyer beware.

[Guitarrefreak]

I am confused. Did you give her any money for the session? If so, she had money to get home. How did she get to the hotel in the first place (from Rosarito)? Are you certain she came from Rosarito?

CJ sir. I am glad you asked. I did not give her money for the session per se. Money was never brought up in our conversation and during our previous encounter. She also never asked for money (well, I actually had to leave before she became wide awake, but lets not get sucked into technical details here.). She got to the hotel w / me after we left the strip club. We took a cab there. About whether it is true she lives in rosarito. Good point, I do not know except for what she told me. It does not really matter (not to me anyways.)

[Misteroc]

Nicely done Country John, probabltthe clearest, most concise and yet detailed explanation yet of the SW or BG perspective.

[Country John]

I went to mermaid's yesterday 7/20 to check out my atf.

Just a little Thursday night story.

You have to understand something completely: she does not see the future in your eyes. She understands that you have no life in Mexico and that, most likely, you have no intention of making a life in Mexico with plans that would include her.

So her strategy is to earn income from you. There are no friends in business.

She seems to have tested your limits and developed parameters. You're good for an $80. 00 session (that works out to about $900 pesos, a lot of money for a few hours work). You might be good for more, she will have to continue working you to find out how much.

Soon, you'll get the message that her dad needs a brain operation and she needs to wire $2, 000 back to some place deeeeep in Mexico, or he will most certainly die. My girlfriends father died about four times before he actually did kick the bucket in my living room three years ago.

IN your situation, you might be able to sit down at your kitchen table and map your entire route to retirement. You can budget, you have credit, you have a steady income that you can see well into the future. Not so here. It's day to day, or week to week. There is no other profession that will bring her an income that will support her entire family like the sex industry. If she can line up several clients like you, she will be set for as long as she can keep you interested and excited (marketing).

It is totally OK for you to like her. It is totally OK for her to like you. Nothing wrong with that. The problem develops when you mis-read her like for you as some sort of promise that a condition will exist with her into the future. The ONLY condition that will exist will be the condition of client (you) , and provider (her). That is unless you are willing to change your life.

She will rely upon your "good faith" and inclination not to "cheat" on her, and your sense of guilt for even thinking about it. Her talent will be in the area of grooming those emotions to keep you in her corral.

So play the game the way you want to, but be very aware that her needs are different from yours and that her success will depend on her ability to keep you dreaming about her. Buyer beware.

[Country John]

I never had to travel to rosarito (or anywhere outside Tijuana for that matter) so never paid attention to the signs, I shall start doing that in the future (or at least ask a yellow cabbie every opportunity I have)

Reason I asked is because, I took one of my regulars to a motel after her shift last night and this morning she told me she had no money to go back to rosarito, I only had 40 left in my wallet (minus the change I had to keep handy) and I gave those to her. I was just deciding if I needed to feel bad considering that I accidentally made her 'wait' outside the club for 30 mins (some things got lost in translation, anyway, no need to digress). I was really apologetic.

Anyway, if anyone cares, the sex wasn't as great as last time and I guess part of the reason is because she has developed this 'attachment' to me (or my money, whatever). But little gestures are giving off some hints. Maybe as a monger, I like more the journey than the destination.

I am confused. Did you give her any money for the session? If so, she had money to get home. How did she get to the hotel in the first place (from Rosarito)? Are you certain she came from Rosarito?

[Country John]

Anyone actually live in Tijuana? I'm curious to see if there are any expats in that area? If you would be so kind as to PM me if you are living there that would be great.

I am in my 4th year living in Tijuana.

[MadisonGuy]

Hey what is wroing with all of you, I enter this site site. Mexicolindobar. Com and it looks like a Fail site, like a Girls posing sexy big time FAIL site, I mean come one except 1 or 2 the rest are really FUGLY, who the hell is hiring this girls?

I invite anyone here to take a stroll at the bigger malls in Tijuana and you will see real cuties spinner thin and young girls.

Most of the girls on that site are Ugly, Fat many of them old.

How does that differ from Tijuana as a whole? You're telling me that the majority of girls in the Zona are beautiful? You definetely went on a different night if that's the case. In some of the bars I couldn't even come up with a reason that the girls were in the sex industry unless someone just loves to screw a dirty fat cow every once in awhile. Mexico is similar to the US in that there are very very beautiful girls but there are also very ugly ones. It is in the top 10 countries as far as obesity goes right there next to us US Americans. I've tried the site myself and have been happy with it, but I do agree I only found 2 girls attractive to me out of the like 50 on the site, but that doesn't differ from anywhere else, there are nights I can't find a girl I'm attracted to in Hong Kong.

[MadisonGuy]

Anyone actually live in Tijuana? I'm curious to see if there are any expats in that area? If you would be so kind as to PM me if you are living there that would be great.

[Guitarrefreak]

Hey what is wroing with all of you, I enter this site site. Mexicolindobar. Com and it looks like a Fail site, like a Girls posing sexy big time FAIL site, I mean come one except 1 or 2 the rest are really FUGLY, who the hell is hiring this girls?

I invite anyone here to take a stroll at the bigger malls in Tijuana and you will see real cuties spinner thin and young girls.

Most of the girls on that site are Ugly, Fat many of them old.

Yeah browsing through this site is quite an adventure. Hehehee

[Jrzmong]

Hey what is wroing with all of you, I enter this site site.mexicolindobar.com and it looks like a Fail site, like a Girls posing sexy big time FAIL site, I mean come one except 1 or 2 the rest are really FUGLY, who the hell is hiring this girls?

I invite anyone here to take a stroll at the bigger malls in Tijuana and you will see real cuties spinner thin and young girls.

Most of the girls on that site are Ugly, Fat many of them old.