General Reports

[Sound7]

buy sweets for your child..... A form of kindness
if no children
A tip in the range of ___ ?

Communication is tough and sometimes it comes out right.

Thanks for sharing

This has been my experience, take it for what is worth. I always negotiate a price up front and pay the Chica by putting the $$ on the bed or what ever serves for a dresser. I tell her I will give a tip for good service. I have very rarely been disappointed. I give the tip and say compra dulces para su nino.

This always gets an smile and a sign of appreciation.

[The Tall Man]

After a 7-8 year absence from TJ, this past month I enjoyed the lovelies again in the Zona.

Two from Trop-Bar, two from AB and one from HK. I spent some time beforehand with each of the women, bought them a drink and understood the attitude and chemistry. Not ONE OF THEM ask for money beforehand! Maybe instinctively, because of mongering for so long, I build up a level of trust with them.

When I follow these "Rules of Engagement" I bat at about 100%.

Be safe all!

The Tall Man

[Bowline]

This has been my experience, take it for what is worth. I always negotiate a price up front and pay the Chica by putting the $$ on the bed or what ever serves for a dresser. I tell her I will give a tip for good service. I have very rarely been disappointed. I give the tip and say compra dulces para su nino.

This always gets an smile and a sign of appreciation.

[Sound7]

Typical $10 (00 pesos) to $15 (200) overcharge dispute. More pesos asked in dispute than dollars. Based on a single experience.

A cute looking girl got the boot from the bar, a man collected her slips in daylight outside the bar and gave her 20 peso note. She became furious and pleding her case and few men stood around. Conversation went on I tried to get her attention as a distration .. she was totally engaged with the bar representative. as hell.

Life is Tijuana an be tough and rough for some at times and confusing for outsiders

[Phordphan]

The point is you need to establish you're not going to dine and dash. Whether that mean prepagado, leaving the money on the table or flashing your roll the chica doesn't want to do the deed and then you claim you don't have any money (or pay her the less than agreed upon amount). They get ripped off, they hear stories from their girlfriends.

Once that trust is established most girls will give a good performance. I've been with it must be close to a thousand girls in a dozen countries and prepay/postpay/money on the table/whatever and believe what matters most is reading the vibe from the girl and her knowing you're not going to rip her off or hurt her or try some con like agreeing on $60USD and then paying 600p. She's taking chances going arriba with you too.

I've had prepay sessions that were some of the best times I've had from hotties in AB. I've had postpay sessions where it was a lousy lay. Most of the girls in TJ will ask for the money front. If I were them I would too. I'll put the money on the counter and say it is for afterwards but if she snaps it right up I don't care. I just get to the reason I paid her in the first place and almost always I'll leave with a smile on my face.

The only time I bail out is when she wants to change the terms that were agreed upon downstairs. Rarely happens because I can sort of tell right away. The hotel give you credit to bang another chica, she gets to go back and try and scam someone else, and you have time and money for banging of another chica.

Well. I agree about establishing a good vibe. But I guess we'll just agree to disagree about the pre-payment thing. I wouldn't prepay my house painter, my clients don't pre-pay me, and so on. Once the money changes hands you lose any control you may have had, and I'm not willing to do that. I hear far more horror stories concerning pre-pays than I do good experiences.

I don't know about most girls in TJ requiring the dough up front. I don't do that many SGs, but can only recall one who asked. Maybe two BGs over the years. Not a scientific study, by any means, just my personal experience.

I do wonder. I've never stiffed a chica, so I don't know. Surely the chicas have some recourse if they guy bolts. I know in many countries the girls know one or two guys you really don't want to meet. If the chica starts yelling about getting ripped off, do the jizz-boys tackle you and tap dance on your head until the fuzz show up? Anybody have any experience?

Only once was I in the position to stiff a chica. It was a couple of years ago, getting late, and I was trolling through the alley for a possible nightcap before heading home. It was cold, and biz was slow. A "desparate" looking cutie got my attention. We settled on a price, probably $20 or $25 (this was back when it was OK to use dollars). We headed up to Cascadas. I pulled out the dough and found I didn't have enough to cover her and the room. I really did think I had more. I very sheepishly apologized, told her I didn't have enough, and was prepared to eat humble pie and leave. She looked at the remainder, probably around $15, and said no problem, that's OK. Up we went, great 30 minute session. She crossed herself with the $$ afterwards, and assured me I was her primero cliente. Down side, I didn't have a nickel left and had to walk to the border in the wee hours. I think that was the night I got rousted on the bridge, by TJ's Finest.

[Sound7]

What to expect and what does it mean?

Street Chica.

$25 USD
A girl insisted on 240 pesos sex no fuckie and no suckie...
what does just sex mean in TJ spanish ?

for $35 US Dollar only.
nude body, two position
what more could one expect.

400 pesos
Nude, three position. No anal


$50 USD Club
teir 2 chica and no anal ?

[Super Gato]

Nicely (but firmly), in Spanish if necessary, just say that you pay afterwards. I've never had a SG refuse after I said that. If push comes to shove, show her the money, put it on a table AWAY from her purse, and resume. But I've only had to resort to that a couple of times, once with a BG and once with a cute tag-team in CR.

If she gets pissy, walk. Never be afraid to bail. Tell the guy at the front that she changed the deal and ask for a refund. You'll likely not get it, but you may get credit. Worst case, you're out $5, which is better than being out $25.

One thing I do is to try to make sure the chica sees that I have money when I pay for the room. I don't flash a big roll, but I try to pay in a way where she can see that I do, indeed, have sufficient money to take care of her. I don't know if it helps or not, but it can't hurt.

Oh, and a $5 propina is plenty in TJ.

The point is you need to establish you're not going to dine and dash. Whether that mean prepagado, leaving the money on the table or flashing your roll the chica doesn't want to do the deed and then you claim you don't have any money (or pay her the less than agreed upon amount). They get ripped off, they hear stories from their girlfriends.

Once that trust is established most girls will give a good performance. I've been with it must be close to a thousand girls in a dozen countries and prepay/postpay/money on the table/whatever and believe what matters most is reading the vibe from the girl and her knowing you're not going to rip her off or hurt her or try some con like agreeing on $60USD and then paying 600p. She's taking chances going arriba with you too.

I've had prepay sessions that were some of the best times I've had from hotties in AB. I've had postpay sessions where it was a lousy lay. Most of the girls in TJ will ask for the money front. If I were them I would too. I'll put the money on the counter and say it is for afterwards but if she snaps it right up I don't care. I just get to the reason I paid her in the first place and almost always I'll leave with a smile on my face.

The only time I bail out is when she wants to change the terms that were agreed upon downstairs. Rarely happens because I can sort of tell right away. The hotel give you credit to bang another chica, she gets to go back and try and scam someone else, and you have time and money for banging of another chica.

[Sound7]

Four ladyboys attacks without any losses seems odds were in your favor. Crime scene is less crowded area and the whole affaire is treated as a personal matter by the local residents.

Tijuana risk.

I always sit in the front as well. Better view, plus I like to chat with the driver. The logic is, if you sit in the front, the driver is in reaching distance to the passenger's vital organs with a knofe or gun. If you're in the back seat, you have his back. I think the taxi thing is the drivers preying on the weak, namely women, and only isolated cases, but with the downturn in their economy the number of incidents may increase.

As far as the 4 attempts, I would always walk in the danger zones late at night since I'm more into streetgirls. The area I got the most mugging attempts were up ninos heroes and articulo123 past midnight, and I was always alone. Two of the times, the perpetrator were ladyboys. Best advice, walk near the street or in the street. If you notice someone tailing you, immediately cross the street, and look back. Try to have an exit strategy in case something goes down. E. G. Know where you plan to run to if someone armed pulls up in a car, etc. Keeping on hand by your chin with forearm along your chest could block a chock hold. I pretend to play with my goattee to play that one off.

[Sound7]

The border towns included Tijuana was created for the sole purpose to serve the gringo community. It is over 100 years that Tijuana has been doing this for gringos. The Tijuana - San Diego border was closed at night and rooms and hotels were made avialable during the prohibition. Gambling, drugs and sex workers was all part of the package.

First official sex worker package made availlable to the US army during US-Mexican war 1914, which US accepted subject to inspection. Mexicans have a long relationship with the gringoes.

Now I see few asians and few ball players running around in TJ. Global effects in play.

One would need a date or a pick-up to do salsa at Las Pulgas Night Club (Av. Revolucion and Ave. 7 to 8). Very popular bar with a cover charge depending who us playing. Dress code is in place.
Look at the map (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1020/tj2te4.gif ) and check the posted schedule.

Where have you found good brown indians ?

Sound 7,

Negotiating in mexico can be a little harder than in SA.

[Artisttyp]

Nicely (but firmly), in Spanish if necessary, just say that you pay afterwards. I've never had a SG refuse after I said that. If push comes to shove, show her the money, put it on a table AWAY from her purse, and resume. But I've only had to resort to that a couple of times, once with a BG and once with a cute tag-team in CR.

If she gets pissy, walk. Never be afraid to bail. Tell the guy at the front that she changed the deal and ask for a refund. You'll likely not get it, but you may get credit. Worst case, you're out $5, which is better than being out $25.

One thing I do is to try to make sure the chica sees that I have money when I pay for the room. I don't flash a big roll, but I try to pay in a way where she can see that I do, indeed, have sufficient money to take care of her. I don't know if it helps or not, but it can't hurt.

Oh, and a $5 propina is plenty in TJ.

Good advice thank you. You guys run a really good thread.

[Phordphan]

We've all been in this situation before. You get into the room and she wants the money up front. You just paid for the room so the clock is ticking. What to do ?

Like I said I've never tried the table thing in TJ. What would you suggest I do as a first resort ?

Its been a few years since I was in TJ. Mongering in south america is very different. Excuse me for what seem to be newbie questions.

Nicely (but firmly), in Spanish if necessary, just say that you pay afterwards. I've never had a SG refuse after I said that. If push comes to shove, show her the money, put it on a table AWAY from her purse, and resume. But I've only had to resort to that a couple of times, once with a BG and once with a cute tag-team in CR.

If she gets pissy, walk. Never be afraid to bail. Tell the guy at the front that she changed the deal and ask for a refund. You'll likely not get it, but you may get credit. Worst case, you're out $5, which is better than being out $25.

One thing I do is to try to make sure the chica sees that I have money when I pay for the room. I don't flash a big roll, but I try to pay in a way where she can see that I do, indeed, have sufficient money to take care of her. I don't know if it helps or not, but it can't hurt.

Oh, and a $5 propina is plenty in TJ.

[Artisttyp]

Like you said the clock is clicking and room paid, if you have the time to hear the stories of situation where the chica was not paid in the past than go for the ideal situation. Call her bluff.

Deal with Less time on the clock and her concern for being paid before the big deed. Does it effect her service ? Does one get more? What is the Chica thinking ?

$5 Tip Option:
$5 tip has more value after the deed

How is SA different from TJ in this matter?

Sound 7,

Negotiating in mexico can be a little harder than in SA . There are way more americans present in mexico and they know about gringo pricing in cancun and other well known locals. The closer you are to america the more bullshit american influence you deal with. The further south you go the further away you are from gringo mentality.

I am not saying you won't have difficulty with a chica in SA (far from it) but they tend to be more humble and clueless as to the ways of gringolandia.


Also most chicas in lets say peru el salvador or argentina are thrilled when you give them a $5/6 tip on top of a $20-30 per hr session. Its called not being spoiled. Time is usually set by the brothel or casa. SW's can be tricky in SA but you dont always need them when you have well run casas or brothels. When a man runs a brothel things go VERY well. When a woman mamasan is present expect to do a little more bargining.


Then why mexico ? I love brown indian women and I want to see TJ again after all the exploring I've done.


By the way would you know any regular bars that play salsa merengue or bachata ? I know there are bars that play ranchera music and you pay to dance with a chica. I was looking for the same thing but with salsa.

[Sound7]

Like you said the clock is clicking and room paid, if you have the time to hear the stories of situation where the chica was not paid in the past than go for the ideal situation. Call her bluff.

Deal with Less time on the clock and her concern for being paid before the big deed. Does it effect her service ? Does one get more? What is the Chica thinking ?

$5 Tip Option:
$5 tip has more value after the deed

How is SA different from TJ in this matter?

We've all been in this situation before. You get into the room and she wants the money up front. You just paid for the room so the clock is ticking. What to do ?

Mongering in south america is very different.

[Artisttyp]

Do not pay up front. Tipping is at your discretion, but for service above and beyond, etc. Do not cave to upsells. It just makes it harder for everybody else.

The money on the table thing is OK, but use it as a last resort, not a first resort.

We've all been in this situation before. You get into the room and she wants the money up front. You just paid for the room so the clock is ticking. What to do ?

Like I said I've never tried the table thing in TJ. What would you suggest I do as a first resort ?

Its been a few years since I was in TJ. Mongering in south america is very different. Excuse me for what seem to be newbie questions.

[Phordphan]

What is the protocol about paying for extras with SW's ? I remember they used to ask for the money up front but I never asked for more.

Usually In a brothel setting or my hotel room I put the agreed upon money on a table and say " it's yours when we finish". I usually never have a problem with this. Sometimes I let them pocket the base fare and agree to pay them for the extras AFTER they carry out their promise.

For some reason I doubt this will work in TJ. Is this correct ?

What do some of you guys do ?

For street girls, you'll pretty much tell them what you want, including whether or not they will undress fully. After settling on a price, stick to it. Do not pay up front. Tipping is at your discretion, but for service above and beyond, etc. Do not cave to upsells. It just makes it harder for everybody else.

The money on the table thing is OK, but use it as a last resort, not a first resort.