General Reports

[Cool]

Earlier this year the exchange rate was nearly 15:1 (peso/dollars). Now with tourism down due to the Flu, the rate is barely 13:1.

Anyone explain why?

Obama bailed Mexico out with cash in Mar.

[Cool]

i didn't have the luxury of growing up with my zip code being 90210. i wasn't raised in the ghetto either. it was more a blue collar area. although, i did know of these two respectable and nice looking girls in my school who where in the drug trade. they where sellers. i don't know where they got their supply from though. could of been tj or they where being supplied by local traffickers. of course they followed the rule of "don't get high on your own supply." they where basically already getting somewhere with the drug business. i wonder what ever happened to them.

but yeah, these other high school girls that got murdered could have been in the same position and where simply trying to refill their supplies and things went horribly wrong. i haven't kept up to date on the murders but i don't think they've mentioned anything about the girls being raped.

actually la jolla is a better zip code than 90210 btw mexico city is the [CodeWord123] capital of the world.

[Cool]

I for one, am looking forward to going down to Tijuana this Wed/Thurs. I prefer the lighter crowds and not having to deal with the usual "cucumber" parties where the guys outnumber the gals like 10 to 1.

2 questions for the group:

1) What are the current rates at AB and HK? Do these reflect the curent economic situation? If nothing else, I'm hoping the gals lighten up and are willing to relax and chat more time vs the usual "arriba? " call 10 seconds into an introduction.

2) Nostalgia question here. I've been going to Tijuana since about 1999. I definitely feel things got more difficult after 9/11. My nostaligic side asks to the old time mongers. What was the zona like back in the 80's? What was better? What was worse.

My only exposure to pre- 1999 Tijuana was a few clips from the movie La Bamba. Was that a total head fake, or was it that cool?

I think La Bamba was accurate. TJ was seedy back then with girls crossing to get abortions. TJ supplied whatever was in prohibition back then.

[Reinaldo]

http://www.10news.com/news/19466337/detail.html


Yes there was a report of a note being attached to one of the bodies, as far as what it said I doubt that the public will find out.

RG.

The link you provided says "Mexican police also said they were investigating a note that was found with the bodies." Yet as I mentioned below I haven't seen any mention of this in the Mexican press.

[Pelongera]

I just received my (mail order from Grand Cayman) gynecologist license!

So all you guys who worry about VD should take me with you to TJ!

You pay the girl and before you go up, I will take her up to give her a quick pelvic examination and let you know if she is clean.

Now if enough guys chip in, we can amortize the costs and lower the price by risk pooling. In order to create greater market efficiencies and maximize my productivity, I will relocate to TJ and personally inspect the girls each and every night, and I will issue each member a VD Default Swap Prostitution Bond, which, in case of failure can be exchanged at any office of Enron for a new or fully reconditioned dick. Offer not valid where member has been previously infected, see paragraph 44,532(b)(1) of the Terms of Agreement for details.

If you are worried about your money, I can show you my gilt-edged degree from Grand Cayman, my altar boy clothing (semen stains still visible), and I carry a AAA rating from the International Federation of Horologists

But wait, if you order now, you get a free Chix with Dix electronic digital Heshe detector.... guaranteed to find the joystick on even the most convincing tranny....

--Rabo Verde, M.D., Diplomate, Grand Cayman School of Horology and Trust Fund Management

That's funny.

I won't one.

Where'd you get it?

[Rabo Verde]

I just received my (mail order from Grand Cayman) gynecologist license!
So all you guys who worry about VD should take me with you to TJ!
You pay the girl and before you go up, I will take her up to give her a quick pelvic examination and let you know if she is clean.

Now if enough guys chip in, we can amortize the costs and lower the price by risk pooling. In order to create greater market efficiencies and maximize my productivity, I will relocate to TJ and personally inspect the girls each and every night, and I will issue each member a VD Default Swap Prostitution Bond, which, in case of failure can be exchanged at any office of Enron for a new or fully reconditioned dick. Offer not valid where member has been previously infected, see paragraph 44,532(b)(1) of the Terms of Agreement for details.

If you are worried about your money, I can show you my gilt-edged degree from Grand Cayman, my altar boy clothing (semen stains still visible), and I carry a AAA rating from the International Federation of Horologists

But wait, if you order now, you get a free Chix with Dix electronic digital Heshe detector.... guaranteed to find the joystick on even the most convincing tranny....

--Rabo Verde, M.D., Diplomate, Grand Cayman School of Horology and Trust Fund Management

[Mambomasden]

I for one, am looking forward to going down to Tijuana this Wed/Thurs. I prefer the lighter crowds and not having to deal with the usual "cucumber" parties where the guys outnumber the gals like 10 to 1.

2 questions for the group:

1) What are the current rates at AB and HK? Do these reflect the curent economic situation? If nothing else, I'm hoping the gals lighten up and are willing to relax and chat more time vs the usual "arriba? " call 10 seconds into an introduction.

2) Nostalgia question here. I've been going to Tijuana since about 1999. I definitely feel things got more difficult after 9/11. My nostaligic side asks to the old time mongers. What was the zona like back in the 80's? What was better? What was worse.

My only exposure to pre- 1999 Tijuana was a few clips from the movie La Bamba. Was that a total head fake, or was it that cool?

[RoadGlide]

I posted this in the crime section on the 14th:

"You should be safe as long as you have no dealings with anything drug related. These killings were not a random act, but they were done in a very brutal manner.

"The bodies were described as having been tortured; bludgeoned, beaten and with their skulls crushed. They were found wrapped in blankets early Saturday morning, according to a news release from the Tijuana State Attorney's Office". The girls were 19 and 20 years old, one news report said that the girls had 6" long knife cuts to their faces. You can imagine what else happened to them in the 36 hours from the time they went to Tijuana on Thursday night until they were found on Saturday morning, because the van they were dumped in was dripping blood.

http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local...ybFhtKRbcw.cspx

http://www.10news.com/news/19466337/detail.html

If you go to TJ, be careful who you deal with, those four young adults made a mistake by hanging out with the wrong people, and they didn't see this coming".

Yes there was a report of a note being attached to one of the bodies, as far as what it said I doubt that the public will find out. There was also a letter that was sent from the woman's state prison in San Diego to the 19 year old, she was the one that had cocaine in her system. The cops are following up on that.

Like I said, this was NOT some random crime. At least one of the girls and one of the guys was a player, they say the older girl was at the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong people.

In Sundays Union Tribune there was a report that 3 young women from Mexicali were dissolved in a barrel of acid last year.

RG.

[Jackie888]

I assume this is what they refer to as a rhetorical question because you already answered it earlier. You have been dead-on correct about Mexicans blaming the US for its problems as a way of keeping the average citizens placated.

Back to mongering: I am going down tomorrow despite the fact you guys are making even me paranoid! Last week the door guy was sweeping the floor outside my room and dropped the broom causing me to jump off the girl in my nervous state.

TJ

I went last Saturday. It was ok. The number of girls did drop. But the number of Gringos dropped even lower. It felt like a Thursday before all the Swine Flu & gangster hysteria. It was kind of mellow.

But just in case, I did not wear blue or black or green. Didn't want to be mistaken for a cop. I also didn't wander around like I used to. And I paid an extra buck for a heavy made-in-America cab car because they have a reputation for stopping bullets. Paranoid I was.

However once you're in the clubs, it's fun again. And no one really notices any differences. And the world is left behind.

[Reinaldo]

It's interesting how the US media does not report what was written on the letter left with the bodies.

I read the online Tijuana press daily ie Frontera, El Mexicano, El Sol. I don't recall any mention of a letter. Can you provide a link to back up your assertion?

[Country John]

All kidding aside, there appears to be a campaign to discourage people from visiting Mexico, Tijuana or the Zona Norte. It's going on here at this site. I have no interest in whether a particular monger decides to come to TJ to get laid, if he thinks it's dangerous and doesn't want to "risk it," then that's his call. Our esteemed member "Double" appears to be leading the charge.

Let me try to reply to some of the points raised in his post:

It is also interesting that you have made a reference to the note and failed to tell us what was on the note as well. Don't be like the US media, tell us what was on the note.......fill us all in.

Why is there such a burning desire to know what was in the note? Is everyone over OctoMom already? Connecting the dots here does not require revealing the contents of the note. The source and character should suffice.

It doesn't matter what was in the note. Besides, it's part of an ongoing investigation and the contents might never be released because it might contain the names of prominent Mexican officials or police officers.

I have a question, why would someone that lives in Chula Vista need to go to TJ to get drugs when Chula Vista has drugs some of the most connected drug dealers in the country living there? Why would a gang connectted dealer need to risk crossing the border with drugs when you can get them wholesale right there in Chula Vista.

I can buy 1/2 kilo of marijuana in TJ today for $100.00. You clearly have information about how well connected Chula Vista drug dealers are to the Mexican cartels, why not share with us how much 1/2 Kilo of pot goes for in Chula Vista today? How about an ounce?

Why can't the powers at be in Mexico figure out that the problem is not with the people that go to party or vacation in Mexico, or with the Americans that share a common border with them, the problem is right there at home with the people that they have trusted with their health, safety, and welfare.

What "problem" are you referring to specifically? There are lots of problems in Mexico, just like in the USA. Pick one. Mexicans are painfully aware of the corruption that is rampant in their government. Unlike America, they figured out a way around it. Society is thriving here on many levels. America, on the other hand, is disappearing up it's own asshole because "certain people" didn't take responsibility for their situation. Now they pay the price.

So be specific please.

However, I don't want to loose focus-what did the letter say?

Should we take the word of the heinous killers as to why the brutalized a group of teenagers?

What "heinous killers" said anything? What does it matter?

These "kids" came here, got involved in the drug business and got killed incidental to that activity. They didn't come here to go dancing; I see bus-loads of American students dancing every Friday and Saturday night at the El Torito bar on Revolution Blvd, they all seem to be having a great time and they all get home safely and in one piece.

So let's talk in specifics, not generalities that we see so often in the press. People deserve to know the truth and to get a feel for what is actually going on here instead of bleeding from the eyeballs at the hysterical reports I see and hear.

Country John

[Sunset Strip]

Why can't the powers at be in Mexico figure out that the problem is not with the people that go to party or vacation in Mexico, or with the Americans that share a common border with them, the problem is right there at home with the people that they have trusted with their health, safety, and welfare.

I assume this is what they refer to as a rhetorical question because you already answered it earlier. You have been dead-on correct about Mexicans blaming the US for its problems as a way of keeping the average citizens placated.

Back to mongering: I am going down tomorrow despite the fact you guys are making even me paranoid! Last week the door guy was sweeping the floor outside my room and dropped the broom causing me to jump off the girl in my nervous state.

TJ

[Member #4450]

What did the letter say?

[Double]

It is also interesting that you have made a reference to the note and failed to tell us what was on the note as well. Don't be like the US media, tell us what was on the note.......fill us all in.

I have a question, why would someone that lives in Chula Vista need to go to TJ to get drugs when Chula Vista has drugs some of the most connected drug dealers in the country living there? Why would a gang connectted dealer need to risk crossing the border with drugs when you can get them wholesale right there in Chula Vista.

Why can't the powers at be in Mexico figure out that the problem is not with the people that go to party or vacation in Mexico, or with the Americans that share a common border with them, the problem is right there at home with the people that they have trusted with their health, safety, and welfare.

However, I don't want to loose focus-what did the letter say?

Should we take the word of the heinous killers as to why the brutalized a group of teenagers?

[Amerioca]

Sunday mornining, enroute to SY, I briefly saw the headline of the Frontera newspaper. A cheif of police was whacked over the weekend.

The four were murdered because of association. The cartels take no prisoners. It's interesting how the US media does not report what was written on the letter left with the bodies.