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[B Dulles]

Damm, a sudden explosion of replies. Now I have to reply to everyone in one post.

This has been discussed to death if you read previous posts. AB = Bar while HK = Strip Joint

But if you've only been to AB then I feel sorry for you cause there is so many other bars to check out. Sure, AB tends to have the cream of the crop and some of the other bars have mostly uggos or girls you wouldn't do even if they paid you but that doesn't mean there isn't fun out there or the occasional diamond in the rough. Plus lets not forget that AB tends to be a sex factory. You're in, you're out then the next guy comes along and repeat. You tend to get a better GFE from non trophy wife chicas. So I'm not saying you should also visit HK for the different experience but instead visit all the other bars.

When was that report shown?

Thanks for the info on HK vs. AB. Yep, I have read both of the forums quite a bit but did not find much of a side by side comp. Sounds like there is a 2nd entrance to HK on the street down the block from AB. Will have to check it out. I would love to venture out and explore, but really try to play it cool and sat out of trouble. Quite frankly, my fellow mongers and I have always felt safe inside AB, we generally taxi it to and from the border and never had an issue.

As for the Fox 11 report, it was many years ago, probably over 5. I remember they showed the alley girls and profiled one hot little number. I drooled all over my keyboard thinking about her as I searched for more info on the zona. As soon as I could get to San Diego, I did and south of the border I went.

[Phordphan]

Why, what goes on there? I believe I went in there once. Place was dead. Got bored, finished my drink and left.

I know of Las Chavelas. I didn't add it because it's not a tourist favorite. It also had to do with adding only the more popular bars due to space constraints on the map. I plan to add all the Revo strip bars next but need to find their exact locations. As far as I remember they're usually hidden between the shops and only open at night.

Oh, the ususal. Skanks giving BBBJ in the corner for the price of a ficha drink or two. Homely chubbies stripping. The home of the 5 minute ficha drink. Stuff like that... Some guys like it, some don't. They probably eat newbies alive for breakfast!

LC has had loads of people in it, lately.

[Mr Innocent]

I personally do not care for personal attacks on fellow mongers CJ seems to have his shit together and great and interesting posts.

On to other subjects first of all going by ones self definitely has advantages, no splitting cost go about what your doing at your own pace go different locations when you want. No smartass remarks about how good or bad the chicas look, spend the night with your favorite with no hassles.

Also remember the rules that have been posted here about behavior, and how to treat other people.

I have had great times by myself, met other mongers from all over the world in TJ, been to little shit joints where you can get buried in folds of fat on some women, scared the hell out of me, but I went in and sometimes you can find that diamond in the rough. I have seen heshes and dancing right next to it is a 23 yr. on the scale of a 9 or 10. You just got to go and explore.

Do not be intimidated by shady characters be firm and you will be O.K, just be careful and enjoy. If MP'S are your thing, research and experiment, I do not indulge in this not worth my time and money, lots of things to do.

As far as food is concerned I have eaten of the carts, La especial my favorite and some of the other establishments to numerous to count,
bottom line go eat where you feel comfortable and enjoy.

Anyway been doin this since early 70's and had a ball, good luck and happy hunting to all.

What firedsup says is right on been going to TJ since 1986 took eight years off for a marriage to a Thai woman. Divorced last May.

Went down last weekend, 30 minutes, from my door to the ***** and had a blast.

I really am a daytime guy but have done many night time runs when buddies come into town.

Just be street wise and check out the other TJ boards.

[Mr Innocent]

I personally do not care for personal attacks on fellow mongers CJ seems to have his shit together and great and interesting posts.

On to other subjects first of all going by ones self definitely has advantages, no splitting cost go about what your doing at your own pace go different locations when you want. No smartass remarks about how good or bad the chicas look, spend the night with your favorite with no hassles.

Also remember the rules that have been posted here about behavior, and how to treat other people.

I have had great times by myself, met other mongers from all over the world in TJ, been to little shit joints where you can get buried in folds of fat on some women, scared the hell out of me, but I went in and sometimes you can find that diamond in the rough. I have seen heshes and dancing right next to it is a 23 yr. on the scale of a 9 or 10. You just got to go and explore.

Do not be intimidated by shady characters be firm and you will be O.K, just be careful and enjoy. If MP'S are your thing, research and experiment, I do not indulge in this not worth my time and money, lots of things to do.

As far as food is concerned I have eaten of the carts, La especial my favorite and some of the other establishments to numerous to count,
bottom line go eat where you feel comfortable and enjoy.

Anyway been doin this since early 70's and had a ball, good luck and happy hunting to all.

What firedsup says is right on been going to TJ since 1986 took eight years off for a marriage to a Thai woman. Divorced last May.

Went down last weekend, 30 minutes, from my door to the ***** and had a blast.

I really am a daytime guy but have done many night time runs when buddies come into town.

Just be street wise and check out the other TJ boards.

[Sgt Perv]

Why, what goes on there? I believe I went in there once. Place was dead. Got bored, finished my drink and left.

I know of Las Chavelas. I didn't add it because it's not a tourist favorite. It also had to do with adding only the more popular bars due to space constraints on the map. I plan to add all the Revo strip bars next but need to find their exact locations. As far as I remember they're usually hidden between the shops and only open at night.

I believe your answer to your map space constraints could easily be resolve by using two or three maps. All with same base map. Each with different titles ie Newbie,Tourist and Experienced. Each would have its own flavor and enough space. I did similar maps in military using overlays. They are a lot easier to correct and adjust. Your zona map for newbies is great. All add-on you can put on new maps with slight if any references to the first. The other maps would not need a lot of the written comments from the first which frees up a lot of space. Just food for thought.

[Efjayel]

Hard Rock is just an empty building, as it a whole lot of Revu now. It's getting more and more difficult to make a living there.

Proceeding west on Cohuila, out the door of AB, the first bar you'd come to is Las Chavelas. It now goes through the building and comes out on the alley side as Miami. If memory serves, the next doorway west is the new HK door. Next is Botana 2000, a tiny strip club.

Rio Rosa is on the NE corner of Callejon Coahuila and Ninos Heroes. Not for the faint of heart!

Why, what goes on there? I believe I went in there once. Place was dead. Got bored, finished my drink and left.

I know of Las Chavelas. I didn't add it because it's not a tourist favorite. It also had to do with adding only the more popular bars due to space constraints on the map. I plan to add all the Revo strip bars next but need to find their exact locations. As far as I remember they're usually hidden between the shops and only open at night.

[JPF]

Walked down north on Revolution to a place w/purple lighting outside. Almost to the end of the street. Went inside. Same thing but less lighting. Girls came out lined up and I chose. A very very beautiful girl and petite. 120 for 45 minutes. Went to the room. Very cramped and hot. Not much light. This girl was very difficult and was going to be a dead lay. I was pissed at her attitude and put my shirt on and she said you can't leave. I said watch me. I hadnt even got my pants off 5 min tops. The lady didn't want to give my $$ back but I made a scene outside and she gave most of it back.

That was Purple Rain. Some people like it (usually newbies), others don't. The reason I'm commenting is to warn against walking there after dark. The 2 blocks from there are dark and dangerous. Take a taxi even though it's very close to AB and the main part of the Zona Norte.

[Bunky]

Wasn't there long and a younger Mexican man approached me and wanted to show me around.

I recommend avoiding guys like this. Virtually all of them are hustlers of some sort, who do nothing to add value to your Zona Norte experience. Best case is he's pimping for some street girl. But picking up a street girl is like falling out of a boat and hitting water. There is zero need for a "guide," who will likely steer you toward somebody who can't get clients on her own. If you read Brockton O'Toole's TJ FAQ and a little of the traffic here, you'll have a safe time even if you're flying solo and you don't speak any Spanish.

Moreover, the hustlers are well known to the police. If the cops see you talking to them, they will often use it as a pretext to detain you -- saying they suspect you bought drugs from him. This type of shakedown really puts a damper on a nice evening in the zona.

(While strolling along Avenida Revolucion) another young Mexican boy 18-19yrs wanted to show me a place over on revolution. Went through a bar and through the back door and behind was large glass windows, to the left an inside garage leading out to revolution. This was a massage parlor.

As Karl later found out, the massage parlor scene on Avenida Revolucion is hit and miss. While an occasional hottie can be found who provides decent service, the majority of the places are a total rip off and best avoided. That's why they employ hustlers to lure customers into these clip joints.

I realize that Karl lucked out and found a girl he liked. But that kind of experience is the exception at massage parlors. I respectfully suggest he check out the mainstream clubs in the Zona Norte, like the Adelita Bar, Hong Kong Club, Chicago Club, Tropical and Las Chavelas. I think he'll be pleasantly surprised at the quality and selection. And most importantly he won't be dealing with hustlers and touts.

Bunky

[Phordphan]

Hard Rock gone!? What did they put in it's place?

And where are these other places located? Cross streets.

Hard Rock is just an empty building, as it a whole lot of Revu now. It's getting more and more difficult to make a living there.

Proceeding west on Cohuila, out the door of AB, the first bar you'd come to is Las Chavelas. It now goes through the building and comes out on the alley side as Miami. If memory serves, the next doorway west is the new HK door. Next is Botana 2000, a tiny strip club.

Rio Rosa is on the NE corner of Callejon Coahuila and Ninos Heroes. Not for the faint of heart!

[Efjayel]

Damm, a sudden explosion of replies. Now I have to reply to everyone in one post.

JourneyQuest1, nice post but please use paragraphs. Makes things easier to read.

From AB exit and turn left. Walk about 30 yards and you'll find the entrance to the new section of HK. It's the opposite direction you would take if going to CC.

They are very different clubs. HK is a noisy strip club with lots of dancing areas. HK is big and there is more of everything including annoying waiters. CC is a relatively quiet place with some dancers/strippers but seems more like a lounge unless you go at prime times (FR and SA night).

Try them both. They (and AB) are all very close together.

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My map lays out exactly where the bars are plus even highlights the areas where the street hookers are allowed to stand around. That area is usually safe. Yes there are a few bums and crooked police hanging around but for the most part. It's safe as long as you play it cool.

It's important to know that the exit from the Zona to the border along the Ave Internacional is CLOSED because they are re-building the road. Knowing how things work in Mexico, it should be down for several months. Take Benito Juarez instead.

Anyone who drives across would, I am sure, already know that.

I can only imagine what this is doing to morning corss border traffic.

On another note, MAJOR KUDOS to the city of TJ for completing the Southbound stretch of the Via Rapida to La Presa. It's fresh new concrete and even has those flashing LED bumps along the way to help the drunks stay in their lane. All they need to do now is complete the on/off ramps and it will be totally done.

Added to all this is the cleaning and planting and the landscape work going on. Major changes taking place. Very nice to see.

According to my map, Ave Internacional is all the way up north. The last street before the border/river and doesn't even come near my described "walking path." An area that isn't usually visited. Don't see how that can affect anything.

Minor stuff. Hard Rock is gone. Caesar's is misspelled.

If there's room, you could add Las Chubbies, Botana, Rio Rosa

Hard Rock gone!? What did they put in it's place?

And where are these other places located? Cross streets.

Ok gents, planning a trip out toward end of Sept. Anyway, having only been to AB, thought I would venture to someplace different and hear talk that HK Club is pretty good. I am not sure exactly where it is, though I see on the map it is near AB. I can see Chicago Club from AB but little else. I prefer to taxi it right to AB and not venture too far.

So, for those of you that have gone to both, thoughts?

Thanks!

This has been discussed to death if you read previous posts. AB = Bar while HK = Strip Joint

But if you've only been to AB then I feel sorry for you cause there is so many other bars to check out. Sure, AB tends to have the cream of the crop and some of the other bars have mostly uggos or girls you wouldn't do even if they paid you but that doesn't mean there isn't fun out there or the occasional diamond in the rough. Plus lets not forget that AB tends to be a sex factory. You're in, you're out then the next guy comes along and repeat. You tend to get a better GFE from non trophy wife chicas. So I'm not saying you should also visit HK for the different experience but instead visit all the other bars.

I found the zona after the local Fox station in LA did an undercover report on the rampant prostitution south of the border. I could not find my car keys fast enough. Gracias Fox 11 Los Angeles!

When was that report shown?

Gentlemen or lady's I was looking at the map submitted very accurate in detail, I just want to add that at Camino de la plaza and virginia street just up form the parking lot. You want to pass this Intersection go about a 1/4 mi. you will see a stand alone ATM on the northside of street in the parking lot for the various stores there. I have used this machine when I get to TJ and after when the cash is low. Hope this helps.

I hope this still there been about a year or so.

Thanks. I'll see if its still there and add it to my map.

[JourneyQuest1]

Last year was the first time I went to Tijuana zona. Although I had been there before I never knew about the zona and what it had to offer. I wish I had known about this years ago now that I am 45 and not so deperate to get laid as I was in my younger days. I am single but my ex wife was the best pc of ass I have had yet. I just couldn't deal w/her bad temper. My Spanish is so so, but not conversational. There in lies my problem. What little Spanish I know helped, but I know I could tear up that area if only my Spanish were fluent. First time I went in July and arrived in the late Friday afternoon. Walked around and couldn't believe how many beautiful girls just standing out on the street looking for $$. Wasnt there long and a younger Mexican man approached me and wanted to show me around. I figured he was looking to make some money and I needed someone w/experience so I saw it as a win win for both of us. Never had a street girl then. He hooked me up w/a girl standing on the street. Wouldn't been my 1st choice but not bad. Went through the walkway paid for room and went inside. I was a little nerveous. She took her top off and asked for money. I paid and I started to kiss her and she said no kissing. She laid down some rules and I took my money and left her cold. Next went to Playboy Club. Got a couple dosxx and watched the girls dance. A girl came over and sat on my lap and wanted a drink. $$ for the bar. Didn't like her looks. Ugly tattoos and fishhooks in her lip. I pushed her off. Anouther girl came by lookin much better. Tall phillapina named Pearla. Paid the bar fine and took her w/me out dancing at a nice Mexican resteraunt. Then back to her place. A rundown motel near Adelitas. When we were finished she crashed on the bed. She didn't ask for money but I left a few 20s and had to work the next morning. Next trip 2 weeks later looked for Pearla but she had vanished from the earth. Anouther young Mexican boy 18-19yrs wanted to show me a place over on revolution. Went through a bar and through the back door and behind was large glass windows, to the left an inside garage leading out to revolution. This was a massage parlor. Went inside sat on a long leather couch. An older woman got on her phone and made a call. All of a sudden about 15 beautiful young girls came in and stood in front of me. They called off their names. One girl named Karen stood out. They left and I negotiated w/ the woman and said I liked Karen. She was called and we went to the room for a massage. She was about 18 and very fresh and cute (looked like Tanya Roberts from Beastmaster). We massaged each other and she said I could do anything but kiss her on the lips. But I wanted an hour and needed more cash. So I left to the Atm right outside. I had lots of $$ in the bank and decided to check anouther place out and go back later. Big mistake. Walked down north on Revolution to a place w/purple lighting outside. Almost to the end of the street. Went inside. Same thing but less lighting. Girls came out lined up and I chose. A very very beautiful girl and petite. 120 for 45 minutes. Went to the room. Very cramped and hot. Not much light. This girl was very difficult and was going to be a dead lay. I was pissed at her attitude and put my shirt on and she said you can't leave. I said watch me. I hadnt even got my pants off 5 min tops. The lady didn't want to give my $$ back but I made a scene outside and she gave most of it back. I left in a hurry back to Karen. Who was very nice and new. Tightest girl I ever had. When the time was up someone knocked. (I hate it when that happens) she jumped up gave me a kiss and I gave her a nice silver bracelet for a tip. I could write alot more about these 2 or 3 trips I made but taking up too much space. I live in the Riverside area. Anyone want to make a run and split gas parking I have a civic 35mpg. Fri-Sun. Karl

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[Sgt Perv]

If you're referring to the red Mexicoach it' still around but the fare has gone up.

It leaves from their terminal on Revo between 6th and 7th.

Thanks I did not realize it was that far down. I never used it but I had seen it and have talk to other tourist who have said that is what they use. I guess if I was just shopping during the day, it would not be that bad.

[Reinaldo]

What happen to the bus to the border? I remember it being $2 from 4th street to the border. Does it still exist? I know the time schedules were a trip.

If you're referring to the red Mexicoach it' still around but the fare has gone up.
It leaves from their terminal on Revo between 6th and 7th.

[Cobra Comander]

I found the zona after the local Fox station in LA did an undercover report on the rampant prostitution south of the border. I could not find my car keys fast enough. Gracias Fox 11 Los Angeles!

I found out about the AMPS in Oxnard (more less) the same way. I know what you mean my friend.

CC

[JPF]

Ok gents, planning a trip out toward end of Sept. Anyway, having only been to AB, thought I would venture to someplace different and hear talk that HK Club is pretty good. I am not sure exactly where it is, though I see on the map it is near AB. I can see Chicago Club from AB but little else. I prefer to taxi it right to AB and not venture too far.
Thanks!

From AB exit and turn left. Walk about 30 yards and you'll find the entrance to the new section of HK. It's the opposite direction you would take if going to CC.

They are very different clubs. HK is a noisy strip club with lots of dancing areas. HK is big and there is more of everything including annoying waiters. CC is a relatively quiet place with some dancers/strippers but seems more like a lounge unless you go at prime times (FR and SA night).

Try them both. They (and AB) are all very close together.