General Reports

[Country John]

Thanks from all of us mongers CJ for your offer of assistance and I believe that action will be taken if offenses are reported. Trouble is, many US citizen victims are married or otherwise, not in positions to want to acknowledge being in TJ. As a veteran of TJ mongering for over thirty years, somehow, I've managed to dodge that particular hassle but many homeboys that I personally brought down there have had problems because they defied the rules stated on these previous posts.

All true.

You don't need to actually confront the officer, you just need to Identify him and swear out a complaint. Once they are on to a particular officer, chances are they'll catch him if he continues his criminal behavior.

They ARE interested in catching them. But they need the reports. Who? When? Where? Car Number? Property taken. You can correstpond via hotmail or other 3rd party email. The reported are NEEDED, however.

The rest of your post is right on the money also.

Country John

[Supermonger2]

It was in the Zona, actually the street corners of the zona, where the taco stands are that I've been approached by those guys promising me where to find the hottest girls and oriental massages. They'll usually block my path and start talking to me. I simply step to the side out of their way and continue walking never making eye contact.

So anyways, where Stateside can I find oriental girls?

Virtually any US massage parlor that's titled Oriental Massage will provide at least a HJ with prices ranging from twenty bucks to whatever clients are dumb enough to pay. FS is frequently included from sixty to over a hundred fifty bucks extra.

Check out the USA side of this website for tons of information. These places are a great relief to those unfortunate mongers who can't make it TJ every weekend. Happy hunting.

[Supermonger2]

It's a sad fact that shake-downs continue and people need to be on their guard. People also need to know what to do, and not do. People also need to decide if they are willing to let the cops get away with it.

I met with the State Department of Tourism's Police Corruption Unit in TJ last week for three hours and discussed this matter.

Their number 1 problem is not corrupt cops, it's failure to report corrupt cops.

Corrupt cops will ALWAYS be out there. But in order to make an impact, they have to be reported. People are not doing it. Shakedowns continue because the cops know that they will not be reported.

Do you want things to change? Then report the bad cops. They will be arrested. Many already have.

If you are involved in a police shakedown: Get the name of the officer if possible, the vehicle number (very important) and make a note of the exact area and time. If you can afford it and if you think of it, go to any office supply store and buy a UV pen and mark your cash.

Got o any phone and dial 078 to get in touch directly with the State department and tell them what happened. This could get the ball rolling immediately. etc. etc.

There was a time in TJ that, if you wanted to be a cop, you had to buy your own police car, gun, uniform plus you had to pay a propina to the captain. That is how the mordita was born. Cops are not required to buy their stuff anymore but that has not stopped the practce of the mordita.

The bad cops believe that gringos don't have the balls to follow through on complaints. So what's it gonna be? If you want to report the cops, if you have the info, then PM me. I'll help you.

Country John

Thanks from all of us mongers CJ for your offer of assistance and I believe that action will be taken if offenses are reported. Trouble is, many US citizen victims are married or otherwise, not in positions to want to acknowledge being in TJ. As a veteran of TJ mongering for over thirty years, somehow, I've managed to dodge that particular hassle but many homeboys that I personally brought down there have had problems because they defied the rules stated on these previous posts.

The two biggest scams that the cops use to demand money are, possession of a pocket knife or Viagra without a prescription. I'm not positive about the legality of either, but it's wise to leave the pocket knives home and stash your vitamin V in a sock or leave your stash in your hotel room.

Also remember that any tout speaking to you in California English has acquired that accent from once living there and did not leave willingly. He is likely a Mexican national raised in Los Angeles since early age and has almost certainly been deported from the US for criminal activities ranging from drugs to robbery. To avoid any problems with co-conspiring cops, politely decline whatever he has to offer and walk away. Stick to the main bars discussed here and you should be relatively safe as the club owners, now more than ever, have a vested interest in the well being of their customers.

[Surfnk9]

Sorry to report another police robbery. Saturday night, my buddy was approached at the top of Constitution by a street tout ranting about accompanying him to a new place full of young Chinese girls for bargain prices. Following my advice to him over the years, he ignored this creep and kept walking.

But the tout tagged along then offering Vicoden tablets for sale. At that point, three cops swooped them both up and declared that since my buddy was hanging with a known Vicoden dealer, he must be one too. After searching them both and discovering (surprise) three Vicoden tablets, they were both threatened with arrest and jailing for seventy-two hours.

Of course the dealer was released and my friend was ordered to an ATM in a nearby store where he was bullied into withdrawing and paying two hundred bucks.

The good news is that after reporting the incident to a local bar owner, he called the police chief, who appeared irate and insisted that if the bad cops could be identified, they would be arrested and the money returned. BTW, store surveillance cameras captured the ATM shakedown on tape. So now we wait.

Its been awhile since my last post (that is what a good stateside girlfriend will do).
“Dejame” (pronounced: de-ha-me) is a term every gringo should know when approached by the hawkers on the street. It means: “Leave me alone”. Say it politely but firmly and if there are any police in the area, make sure to say it loud enough and repeatedly so they know you aren’t interested in the drugs or girls the hawkers are peddling.
Don’t take credit cards or ATM cards, cash only. Stash the cash in several places, shoes, socks, crotch ect. A driver’s license is fine for identification. A good idea is to go to the DMV and get a duplicate license. Your duplicate is now your official stateside ID, your original is now your TJ card. The duplicate replaces your original here in the U.S. If you loose your original in TJ, no loss. A photocopy of your passport is always good when traveling. I’m not sure what the rules are for the passport requirements, but I understand they are changing. When it does become a requirement, the photocopy of the passport, along with your actual passport is essential.
I was recently in Mexico City and there were Federalies all over the place, especially in the Metro (subway). My uncle, who at one time was the ambassador to England for Mexico , said the they are trying again to crack down on the petty crime that affects the tourist trade, that includes corrupt cops. Recent stories of whole families being “kidnapped” while in Baja are the kiss of death for the entire tourist industry.
He suspects it’s a tactic by the drug cartels. When pressure is on the drug trade, they push for tourist harassment to go up. As a bargaining chip the cartels let the government know they will cooperate with the problem of tourist harassment if they, the government, looks the other way with regard to the drug trade into the U.S. But when everybody is grabbing for whatever they can get their hands on, who knows what’s really going on.
Good luck and be careful. TJ is a lot of fun and worth it, in my opinion. But you have to keep your wits about you. I studied up on this message board before mongering in TJ and it helped immensely, but still I got clipped once and had a car ripped off from the U.S. side. Experience is a good teacher, but a dear one.

[Alguem]

Gentlemen,

I did a little search and wasn't able to find a good fit.

Will be in TJ for a weekend. Want a hotel that is clean (don't need all the 5 star stuff) just a private bathroom and aircon.

What I do need is for it to be close to the Zone so the girls and I can walk there without getting hassled. And for the cost to be around $50 a night.

Here's a good link to a post by CM & PP breaking down a lot of the hotels in the area. From what people I know have said, they were fine with both Hotel Nelson (near touristy Revo) and Hacienda de Santiago (just 1.5 blocks down the street from Adelitas).

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http://internationalsexguide.info/fo...nda#post655584
Hacienda de Santiago - $43 plus $3 for key, girl friendly (request double room), no AC, has unattended parking garage, approx. 1.5 blocks east of AB

Nelson – no garage, $50, girl friendly (request double room), near Arch, hotelnelson.com.mx

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Here's a vid from google but I'm not sure if this is the actual place. Hard to tell if the views from the air are the Zona or not, doesn't quite look like it.

Hotel Hacienda De Santiago
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...51534307424638

[Mofo Monger]

Gentlemen,

I did a little search and wasn't able to find a good fit.

Will be in TJ for a weekend. Want a hotel that is clean (don't need all the 5 star stuff) just a private bathroom and aircon.

What I do need is for it to be close to the Zone so the girls and I can walk there without getting hassled. And for the cost to be around $50 a night.

Thanks guys.

[Juan Gonzalez]

Sorry to report another police robbery. Saturday night, my buddy was approached at the top of Constitution by a street tout ranting about accompanying him to a new place full of young Chinese girls for bargain prices. Following my advice to him over the years, he ignored this creep and kept walking.

But the tout tagged along then offering Vicoden tablets for sale. At that point, three cops swooped them both up and declared that since my buddy was hanging with a known Vicoden dealer, he must be one too. After searching them both and discovering (surprise) three Vicoden tablets, they were both threatened with arrest and jailing for seventy-two hours.

Of course the dealer was released and my friend was ordered to an ATM in a nearby store where he was bullied into withdrawing and paying two hundred bucks.

The good news is that after reporting the incident to a local bar owner, he called the police chief, who appeared irate and insisted that if the bad cops could be identified, they would be arrested and the money returned. BTW, store surveillance cameras captured the ATM shakedown on tape. So now we wait.

I hope you get your money back, and cops get punish.

[Alguem]

Has VivaMex massage completed their move into the new building? Are they open for business again? Thanks in advance.

Jay

Yeah the new location for VivaMex definitely has potential but when you go in, the traces of construction are certainly visible still. The new front girl is kind of clueless.

When you go in, check the table sheet and make sure it's clean and also the bathrobe. I'm not sure who's responsible for the laundry, but it's not getting done. The business is clearly not being run as well as it used to be, hopefully it'll get fixed soon. Also, the shower shoes were missing so make sure you get those if you plan on taking a shower.

[Efjayel]

Wait so its no longer located where I pointed to on my map? Where is it now?

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2448/tj2copyuc1.gif

[Luckystiff]

Yes. Vivamex is open now at the new location across the street from Sanborns.

[Jay Love]

Has VivaMex massage completed their move into the new building? Are they open for business again? Thanks in advance.
Jay

[Firedsup]

CJ the board in the last year or so has been basically about the shakedowns the other ripoffs from TJ's finest. Does this mean due to all the attention and all the extra police that all the muggings have gone down, the ripoff artist.

I have seen in years past, that when the government added extra police or fed. Troops this was the case, but always returned to the same old ways.

From the articles in the papers and your reports it seems the new police chief is here to stay as long as he is alive, and he means business.

Happy Hunting

[Country John]

It's a sad fact that shake-downs continue and people need to be on their guard. People also need to know what to do, and not do. People also need to decide if they are willing to let the cops get away with it.

I met with the State Department of Tourism's Police Corruption Unit in TJ last week for three hours and discussed this matter.

Their number 1 problem is not corrupt cops, it's failure to report corrupt cops.

Corrupt cops will ALWAYS be out there. But in order to make an impact, they have to be reported. People are not doing it. Shakedowns continue because the cops know that they will not be reported.

Do you want things to change? Then report the bad cops. They will be arrested. Many already have.

If you are involved in a police shakedown: Get the name of the officer if possible, the vehicle number (very important) and make a note of the exact area and time. If you can afford it and if you think of it, go to any office supply store and buy a UV pen and mark your cash.

Got o any phone and dial 078 to get in touch directly with the State department and tell them what happened. This could get the ball rolling immediately. etc. etc.

There was a time in TJ that, if you wanted to be a cop, you had to buy your own police car, gun, uniform plus you had to pay a propina to the captain. That is how the mordita was born. Cops are not required to buy their stuff anymore but that has not stopped the practce of the mordita.

The bad cops believe that gringos don't have the balls to follow through on complaints. So what's it gonna be? If you want to report the cops, if you have the info, then PM me. I'll help you.

Country John

[Ninguno Especial]

Of course the dealer was released and my friend was ordered to an ATM in a nearby store where he was bullied into withdrawing and paying two hundred bucks.

Rule #1: Never take a CC or ATM card to TJ.

Rule #2 Stuff money in your socks or a polo shirt T-shirt pocket under your outside shirt, money belt, etc. for reserve.

All you need in addition to cash is your DL & passport or B.C., maybe a few of your favorite condoms.

[Smut Villain]

Sorry to report another police robbery. Saturday night, my buddy was approached at the top of Constitution by a street tout ranting about accompanying him to a new place full of young Chinese girls for bargain prices. Following my advice to him over the years, he ignored this creep and kept walking.

But the tout tagged along then offering Vicoden tablets for sale. At that point, three cops swooped them both up and declared that since my buddy was hanging with a known Vicoden dealer, he must be one too. After searching them both and discovering (surprise) three Vicoden tablets, they were both threatened with arrest and jailing for seventy-two hours.

Of course the dealer was released and my friend was ordered to an ATM in a nearby store where he was bullied into withdrawing and paying two hundred bucks.

The good news is that after reporting the incident to a local bar owner, he called the police chief, who appeared irate and insisted that if the bad cops could be identified, they would be arrested and the money returned. BTW, store surveillance cameras captured the ATM shakedown on tape. So now we wait.

In my past as a regular TJ monger I, too, have had to deal with these less-than-legal setups; fortunately it didn't take me long to get wise to the game and avoid those situations like AIDS. Now that I'm reading the board I see that not only have things not really changed down there, but they seem to have gotten a bit worse for a while.

I always had this theory that one day the cop shakedowns would get so bad that people would stop going down there. I wonder if the chickens have come home to roost, and if the powers-that-be finally realized that letting the ratero cops "subsidize" their meager incomes in this fashion could have some negative impact on their #1 industry (tourism).

Are these fuckers finally starting to get a clue, or will things go right back to the way they've always been after a period of time?