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[Explorer8939]

A question for the brain trust:

I will be staying in Hotel Ticuan one night, and then transferring to Cascadas the next day. There is a long gap between check out at one and check in at the other, so my plan is to spend the time at a love motel like Premier.

So, do I need a reservation at Premier on a Monday at noon? Can I make one?

[Explorer8939]

I know for a fact that there are some women who owed a lot of money to a person (or groups of persons) for transporting them to Tijuana and given housing and clothes. And these women owed a lot of money for those expenses. And they were guided to the clubs to work as prostitutes to settle their debt. And if they could not, they were threatened with serious bodily harm. There are organizations that funnel girls from all over Mexico to Tijuana. Some of these women work in HK. I know because I personally intervened in one case.

You might be hearing garbled stories about padrotes.

Otherwise, for a lady in Sinaloa to bus it to Tijuana is not expensive, no need for a criminal cartel to pay for it.

What I do know is that bars offer free rooms to ladies in Sinaloa, they hear about it and bus it up to Tijuana.

[Hargow20]

Seems crazy to get involved with something like this. Occasionally I will go down a few days early to see my girl and bring her food and other gifts for her daughter. But that is the most I will do.

I know for a fact that there are some women who owed a lot of money to a person (or groups of persons) for transporting them to Tijuana and given housing and clothes. And these women owed a lot of money for those expenses. And they were guided to the clubs to work as prostitutes to settle their debt. And if they could not, they were threatened with serious bodily harm. There are organizations that funnel girls from all over Mexico to Tijuana. Some of these women work in HK. I know because I personally intervened in one case.

[Arthasboi]

I've stayed in Caesars and Valerio before, and I like them both. Always had a clean room. Caesars is a place you could take your family to, but valerio is the place that has helped me kick out a girl who was causing problems. Always a place in my heart for valerio cause they know the deal and don't beat around the Bush.

I was wondering if anyone has ever stayed at hotel granvilla or hotel catalina? I'm going to be in Tijuana this weekend and wanted to know if there is something I should avoid.

[Jackie888]

The only good thing is I know most of the women in HK are not being forced to do the work. Other parts of the world is more sketchy and not sure if the women have their passports taken and they have to work off their travel debts or debts their family owes. Also not sure if youre dealing with Russian mafia, Chinese Triads, Japanese Yakuza, Mexican cartel, and the list goes on. Hopefully the women are educated enough to save and invest so they are not stuck in the vicious cycle of alcohol and drugs that are so prevalent in these businesses, but most of the time, they come from poor backgrounds and with more money, the lifestyle creep sucks up every penny and they have to keep working longer and harder to keep up with the cycle. Their families and friends ask for loans that never get paid back and most are just trying to survive. It is always the same story but different countries. Sick (insert) farm animal, family member, etc. and the stories could be endless to try and pry more money from unsuspecting mongers.

I know for a fact that there are some women who owed a lot of money to a person (or groups of persons) for transporting them to Tijuana and given housing and clothes. And these women owed a lot of money for those expenses. And they were guided to the clubs to work as prostitutes to settle their debt. And if they could not, they were threatened with serious bodily harm. There are organizations that funnel girls from all over Mexico to Tijuana. Some of these women work in HK. I know because I personally intervened in one case.

[Explorer8939]

On the average, there are 266,000 crossings each day. Split it in half and we roughly get 133,000 people. Toss the 33,000 mongers that goes to HK every day and we are down to 100,000 people that could cross to work. Not anyone but still plenty.

Yep, there are loads of US citizens who live in Tijuana and commute to San Diego. And Mexicans going shopping in the US.

[Jackie888]

To be able to work for $20 an hour in the US, a Mexican would need a green card with Social Security number. Not so many of those.

It's not like anyone in Tijuana can just go to San Diego to work.

There are also US residency requirements to maintain the green card.

On the average, there are 266,000 crossings each day. Split it in half and we roughly get 133,000 people. Toss the 33,000 mongers that goes to HK every day and we are down to 100,000 people that could cross to work. Not anyone but still plenty.

[Turgid]

It has already begun in SoCal. In-and-out had signs posted they are starting at $20 an HR. McD for 2 combos and happy meal is like $30-$40. I recall it being $15-$20. ....

I remember handing a dollar for a Big Mac and Coke and getting back change.

[Explorer8939]

I rarely exchange social media contacts with bargirls, but I have 2 on Messenger.

Both hit me up for cash this week. I guess their boyfriends need money for Christmas.

[Explorer8939]

I have several renters that are not citizens and don't have green cards. They are from Venezuela and other countries on asylum and work. They have been seeking their green card for 5-8 years. They need to submit for a worker permit and renew every 2 years. Some make more money than I do and are quite successful running their own businesses. They have told me their family members that arent citizens have purchased homes in SoCal and enjoying the appreciation since purchase. Even though Venezuela is in a rough financial situation, Ive been told by some renters they have maids, drivers, and security for cheap in their country. Im talking about $100-$200 per week for a full time maid, driver, security.

You know any Mexicans living in Tijuana and working in San Diego under temporary work permits obtained via seeking asylum?

Remember, my post was about requirements for Mexicans to work legally in the US.

[DonCarlos1234]

The concept that we have to research each individual girl on the forums, although I'm appreciative for a source, is a bit overwhelming..

In Brazil you can read many reviews of girls on GPGuia (The Guide) a lot of details and very quickly, alas it's in Portuguese. Those girls (cheaper then Tijuana) ae mostly 8+ so not too much to worry about.

[Hargow20]

I have found over the years that economic conditions have little if any on prostitution level. In many cases the prostitution picks up when the economy improves. The SW action in US west coast & especialy Socal has seen a huge increase in prices. The biggest problem is that there has to many guys foolishly giving into the girls high prices.

It is good for people around the world when times are good and they don't have to work in prostitution to support their family. The sad news are the good times are slowly coming to a halt with interest rates tripling and inflation at all time highs. I can bet you'll see more desperate times around you and the world. It is the only sad aspect of the profession as it feels at times taking advantage of a vulnerable situation. I guess if people do the profession out of free will, then it is just something between two consenting adults, but other times it is most likely forced exploitation from criminal enterprises.

The only good thing is I know most of the women in HK are not being forced to do the work. Other parts of the world is more sketchy and not sure if the women have their passports taken and they have to work off their travel debts or debts their family owes. Also not sure if youre dealing with Russian mafia, Chinese Triads, Japanese Yakuza, Mexican cartel, and the list goes on. Hopefully the women are educated enough to save and invest so they are not stuck in the vicious cycle of alcohol and drugs that are so prevalent in these businesses, but most of the time, they come from poor backgrounds and with more money, the lifestyle creep sucks up every penny and they have to keep working longer and harder to keep up with the cycle. Their families and friends ask for loans that never get paid back and most are just trying to survive. It is always the same story but different countries. Sick (insert) farm animal, family member, etc. and the stories could be endless to try and pry more money from unsuspecting mongers.

[Dogers69]

To be able to work for $20 an hour in the US, a Mexican would need a green card with Social Security number. Not so many of those.

It's not like anyone in Tijuana can just go to San Diego to work.

There are also US residency requirements to maintain the green card.

Thus is not true. Many people from certain countries gets quick working papers by requesting asylum. Even if you aren't one of those countries, anyone requesting asylum gets working papers in about 6 months. Of course asylum can be dragged out 10 to 20 yrs. Even if you lose the asylum case you can demand a new look at the case. The asylum dates are backlogged yrs. Nobodybreally knows because their 1st appearance is 2 yrs down the Road but it may be back logged 10 yrs or more. Then you have the fact most people here on asylum will find a back up method to get citizenship through marriage, or being victim of a crime. Then you have the whole usa working on borrowed social security cards. I used to see this stuff at work the borrowed ss cards are in the many why millions. I know many people in San diego working on borrowed ss card, same place 10 yrs, filing taxes with their real adress name, and they didbt even bother to do asylum. Show up and work. The irs can not share this info with ice and nobody gets deported for working on borrowed ss cards any more.

[KBToys]

On my last trip I met a gringo looking guy who spoke perfect spanish. He worked at burger king and lives like a king here in Tijuana. His rent was like $200/ month, and he eats out every day (most Americans cannot even afford this lifestyle). Americans are pushing up prices fast in Tijuana, and it won't slow down. This is very specific to Tijuana though, given san diego is incredibly expensive. I'm sure there are border towns (less safe ones) in the central border or eastern border area where US incomes have little or no effect, but then again how good is the mongering? Unfortunately mongering is dying (if you read the south american forums) in a lot of the countries, and not getting better anywhere. We might be the last generation to experience working girls who do not cost us a fortune.

I'm not sure if we can provide a solution to this economic death spiral of prostitution. I was thinking there should be an app kind of like airbnb but for girls haha. You know, with reviews and listed prices or something. It's just too much ring around the rosie trying to figure out what the prices should be and such and what services are advertised and what are actually provided. The concept that we have to research each individual girl on the forums, although I'm appreciative for a source, is a bit overwhelming. Prostitution has, for so long, been decentralized and disorganized. Its a part of being a gutter industry I suppose.

I have seen on mileroticos (like a mexican backpage) that girls can be had for 1000 pesos. No doubt some of these are scammers. Some of the grannies (and some are likely trannies) are charging 500 for a half or full hour. I am sure a large part of mongering in MX is reserved for locals. To be honest, if I were a local I wouldn't use this forum because I wouldn't want gringos inflating the prices. Can you imagine being a mexican living and working in Tijuana and a girl is asking for 100 USD? That is unreachable for mexicans. That would be like a hunter biden quality call girl for them.

It is good for people around the world when times are good and they don't have to work in prostitution to support their family. The sad news are the good times are slowly coming to a halt with interest rates tripling and inflation at all time highs. I can bet you'll see more desperate times around you and the world. It is the only sad aspect of the profession as it feels at times taking advantage of a vulnerable situation. I guess if people do the profession out of free will, then it is just something between two consenting adults, but other times it is most likely forced exploitation from criminal enterprises.

The only good thing is I know most of the women in HK are not being forced to do the work. Other parts of the world is more sketchy and not sure if the women have their passports taken and they have to work off their travel debts or debts their family owes. Also not sure if youre dealing with Russian mafia, Chinese Triads, Japanese Yakuza, Mexican cartel, and the list goes on. Hopefully the women are educated enough to save and invest so they are not stuck in the vicious cycle of alcohol and drugs that are so prevalent in these businesses, but most of the time, they come from poor backgrounds and with more money, the lifestyle creep sucks up every penny and they have to keep working longer and harder to keep up with the cycle. Their families and friends ask for loans that never get paid back and most are just trying to survive. It is always the same story but different countries. Sick (insert) farm animal, family member, etc. and the stories could be endless to try and pry more money from unsuspecting mongers.

[KBToys]

When that 20 an hour wage starts, it's going to bankrupt a lot of food places. McDonald's is getting so expensive people are going to stop going. Food inflation and 20.00 an hour will be the end. These liberals are dumb as hell. They don't understand that fast food isn't supposed to cost the same as fine dining LOL.

It has already begun in SoCal. In-and-out had signs posted they are starting at $20 an HR. McD for 2 combos and happy meal is like $30-$40. I recall it being $15-$20. Inflation is the silent wealth destroyer for savers, but wealth creation for investors. You can rent a luxury apartment in TJ for under $2k, but $2k wont even get you a one bedroom apartment in SoCal. The limited inventory of available rentals and real estate keeps pushing prices higher with all of this illegal immigration. Great for owners, but terrible for renters. The good times seem to be coming to an end with low interest rate debt and free money. It is going to be a rough down cycle and you’ll start seeing people becoming more desperate. The stores and malls are already dealing with rampant theft and robbery. The people lower on the economic ladder will be doing what they have to do to survive.