General Reports

[StubbornMule]

I'm in my 30's and prefer girls in their 20's and 30's; women over 50 don't do anything for me. I'm curious if those of you in your 50's and 60's feel any attraction towards women in their 50's? It seems to me that marriage is a bad deal, in the sense that even if you marry a beautiful woman in her 20's, you take the risk that won't be attracted to her when she reaches her 50's. Any thoughts?

[SlickVick0303]

To me this is easy. It just depends on whether you have to fly.

If you can drive to Tijuana it's something you can do anytime. It's a great place to wedge in whenever. So go to Med and save Tijuana for last min trips.

If you have to fly either way do Med. The longer flight is not that big a deal once you're dealing with airports. You'll just lose an afternoon.

Unfortunately I do have to fly to either so it makes the decision tougher as both are quite the hike for me and thus don't get to visit easily.

On another note. I have been looking at other places in Mexico as Tom Jackin seems to conquer and find something everywhere! LOL. But I just don't see a place with a better easier set up than Tijuana. With just 5-6 days, I think most other towns take some work and tougher time just executing. I was in Mexico City, Puebla and Oaxaca and Jesus was it SOOOO hard to find any action.

I am leaning towards Medellin, just need to keep it to parque lleras and keep things simple I think. I would love to explore and find gems in other areas, but being solo and not knowing the lay of the land well yet. Don't want to explore only to strike out.

I've even contemplated a whole other destination like Panama City, Lima or Guatemala. All within the same price range flightwise, so just need to find the best option with some sure hits and a nice scenery.

[TjBrazil]

Where? Cancun, Ensenada, and Cabo were awful for this. Just bad.

Unfortunately, Cancun should be the greatest mongering destination in the world but isn't due to Mexican business models. I went into one strip club. Pretty nice place. I was the only guy there, and 20 girls stood up and were smiling at me to come sit down. They were so desperate for customers. The manager in a suit came to me to explain. It was like 300 dollars to be with a girl plus entrance fees or tips. They rather have no customers and charge outrageous prices that few bite on. The sweet spot there would be 150 dollars and the club makes money on drinks and entrance fee.

[AmericanPi]

To me this is easy. It just depends on whether you have to fly.

If you can drive to Tijuana it's something you can do anytime. It's a great place to wedge in whenever. So go to Med and save Tijuana for last min trips.

If you have to fly either way do Med. The longer flight is not that big a deal once you're dealing with airports. You'll just lose an afternoon.

Sorry Vets don't want to get slammed for this seemingly which is better post, but I legitimately want to put this out there as someone who has been to both Tijuana (many many times) and Medellin (just once).

I have 6 days free coming up in December that I can take off and this will be the last time I can make magic happen for the year. I am torn between what I know and exploring a bit more.

Here is my thought process:

Tijuana.

Pros:

1. Know it very well and even explored outside the Zona and found many good places to eat and drink and just overall hang out. Plus many spots still left to explore with confidence.

2. Easy to get to, I have GE so crossing back is not a hassle to me..

[Explorer8939]

I personally don't see the zona being around in 10 years. The land is too valuable at this point.

If you are referring to land near the border, there are many blocks to develop before the Zona is impacted. In other words, if the Zona Norte is going to be develop as part of some cross border complex, there's about 10 square blocks that would also have to be developed, those blocks north of the Zona Norte.

[SlickVick0303]

Sorry Vets don't want to get slammed for this seemingly which is better post, but I legitimately want to put this out there as someone who has been to both Tijuana (many many times) and Medellin (just once).

I have 6 days free coming up in December that I can take off and this will be the last time I can make magic happen for the year. I am torn between what I know and exploring a bit more.

Here is my thought process:

Tijuana.

Pros:

1. Know it very well and even explored outside the Zona and found many good places to eat and drink and just overall hang out. Plus many spots still left to explore with confidence.

2. Easy to get to, I have GE so crossing back is not a hassle to me.

3. Plenty of pickings. ZN makes it so easy to have fun and party (which I like) and get girls with no issues or hassle of getting girls to your spot or just get a bar girl / street girl and be done.

4. I have a regular there that I can BB with at will. She's been begging me to go see her. Seems like a slam dunk, but ass much as I like her and love BB, I am a creature that loves variety.

5. Seems like lots of girls new to the Escort Scene that I haven't taken part in for quite a while. If I do go, this seems my likely route.

Cons:

1. Been here so many times, it's kind of stale at this point. Always fun, but just meh lately.

2. Cost has gone WAY up. From BG to drinks and food. It is outrageous. I'm not complaining about money because I know it is part of it, but the cost per pop now is insane at the clubs.

Medellin.

Pros:

1. It is new and from what I saw on my last trip of only 2 days it was amazing. Granted I only saw Parque Lleras and loved the club scene.

2. Much Cheaper than Tijuana.

3. Women are amazing.

4. Cost for fun seems to be at or below Tijuana for a top tier girl (depending how you play it).

5. Much much more left to explore.

Cons:

1. Flight duration.

2. Wasting time on the unknown trying to figure things out.

3. food isn't the best.

4. Solo traveler. It is not as easy and fun being alone compared to Tijuana where it seems easier to immerse.

I am 90% (or so I would say) fluent in spanish so no issues in either location.

I do have to work remote so can mix things up. In Tijuana I know my way around and how things work so easy to go out. Medellin, I have no clue anything outside to Parque lleras.

I know this may be biased given where I am posting, but for those vets that have been to both locations, if you had to choose 1 spot where would you pick?

[Sol12]

If you live in SoCal I could see trying the escort scene in Tijuana. If you're flying in to San Diego, though, there are so many other places to go in Mexico that are beautiful, fun, or beautiful and fun. On top of that, you can forget about the hassle of PedEast / PedWest if you fly straight to a destination.

I agree that to fly to Tijuana isn't the best idea but the reason guys do has been discussed many times here. Lots of guys are married so to use San Diego as a business trip is simple. Others might not feel comfortable deep in a different country so Tijuana allows them to dip their toe in the water with the comfort of the US being minutes away.

I think most guys that begin to get comfortable with visiting a foreign country will soon try other destinations if they have the ability to. Tijuana is just a good place for beginners.

[Sol12]

I don't know about that, especially the 10-year time frame. It's not just the tolerance zone, but low-income housing that's existed there for decades. But Zona Norte as it exists now is actually a tourist boon and I think even the city realizes that. As mentioned in another post, Tijuana has (much) bigger fish to fry than redeveloping Zona Norte. The Zona won't be around forever but I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon.

In terms of geography, I guess you could say the Zona is on the "fringe" of the city, but if you consider the "heart" of Tijuana to be the Zona Centro / Zona Rio area, it's basically right there in a close-to-central location.

Like I said before the city moved people that were in an area to make room for the new Otay crossing, so if the government wanted to build a bridge they could move the residents. They are also building a new highway from Playas to the airport and if I remember correctly they had to move some residents for that as well.

The tolerance zone would just be moved to a different part of the city like they have in other parts of Mexico.

[Sol12]

The Zona is on of Tijuana's single greatest sources of revenue. This the reason why Mexico expends so much money on law enforcement. There is lot of other areas near the border that can be refeveloped. We should also remember that struggles just to keep control from the cartels. The drug gangs and corruption will be Mexico's biggest concern for many years to come.

I think we can all agree that money is what influences government the most. I don't agree that the Zona is a big source of revenue for the city. Most of the money spent goes in the girls hands and they usually go back home with that money or send to family in other parts of Mexico. I don't think the police in Tijuana are paid because of the Zona.

I agree Tijuana has other areas close to the border that can be redeveloped but it would be harder. Such as Colonia Libertad is an area that could be built up but it is full of residents and with the train track going thru it I'm not sure it would attract developers. Also the original attraction with the Zona is that they wanted to build a pedestrian bridge from the US into the Zona for tourists to visit Revolution with more ease. With prostitution in that area it's not possible now.

So unless the developers make it worth the governments time, give them lots of money, it will stay how it is. The new president of Mexico will be a woman and likely Morena party so if it was going to get done I could see it now more than before.

[TjBrazil]

Best way to Tijuana now to avoid wait times is use southwest. They have flights that leave out of San Diego at 6 am. Cross over at 4 am with no wait. It cost more than spirit but worth it.

[BrotherMouzone]

I never considered it before but you're right.

Being adjacent to the border is an incredible asset. Like you can see the americas outlets from Hong Kong. It's literally right across the border.

I suspect they put the tolerance zone there (not just putas; remember it's a tolerance zone for drugs up against the border) because it's basically as far as you can push things towards the fringes of the city, away from the center. But you're right. If they were to do the zoning today, they would probably push it east or south. And that land in zona would be prime retail for day trippers.

I don't know about that, especially the 10-year time frame. It's not just the tolerance zone, but low-income housing that's existed there for decades. But Zona Norte as it exists now is actually a tourist boon and I think even the city realizes that. As mentioned in another post, Tijuana has (much) bigger fish to fry than redeveloping Zona Norte. The Zona won't be around forever but I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon.

In terms of geography, I guess you could say the Zona is on the "fringe" of the city, but if you consider the "heart" of Tijuana to be the Zona Centro / Zona Rio area, it's basically right there in a close-to-central location.

[AmericanPi]

If you live in SoCal I could see trying the escort scene in Tijuana. If you're flying in to San Diego, though, there are so many other places to go in Mexico that are beautiful, fun, or beautiful and fun. On top of that, you can forget about the hassle of PedEast / PedWest if you fly straight to a destination.

Where? Cancun, Ensenada, and Cabo were awful for this. Just bad.

[AgaveBoy]

Next time you might want to stay in a decent hotel in a better part of the city and maybe try some escorts. You can go to the Zona at night and not feel the need to find a girl if you already had an escort. You will also have the opportunity to eat better food and see a different side of the city. For me spending multiple days in the Zona is just depressing.

Just a heads up on taxi drivers is don't believe anything they say. The apps for the border crossing aren't the most reliable but at least you can see the basic wait time. They are actually supposed to have an accurate APP developed next year so hopefully it's more precise. Also I've mentioned this before but they have a Facebook page devoted to people waiting in line to give real time information on the wait.

The only border crossing closed is the Pedwest and I haven't heard of many 3 hour wait times for pedestrians. In the future you can also use a bus that will pick you up on Revolution and drive you thru the border for only $10. Not sure what time your flight was but something that you could look into for your next visit.

If you live in SoCal I could see trying the escort scene in Tijuana. If you're flying in to San Diego, though, there are so many other places to go in Mexico that are beautiful, fun, or beautiful and fun. On top of that, you can forget about the hassle of PedEast / PedWest if you fly straight to a destination.

[Hargow20]

The Zona is on of Tijuana's single greatest sources of revenue. This the reason why Mexico expends so much money on law enforcement. There is lot of other areas near the border that can be refeveloped. We should also remember that struggles just to keep control from the cartels. The drug gangs and corruption will be Mexico's biggest concern for many years to come.

I seldom agree with Dogers but he has been talking about this for sometime and it could happen. Many in Tijuana have wanted to get rid of the Zona and make it more tourist friendly. They've had a plan fir many years to make a large pedestrian bridge connecting Plaza America directly into the Zona and to build that area up so that it would invite tourists to visit all the way to Revolution. With the rise in housing demand if they can get enough money behind it there is the possibility of the bars getting thrown out and possibly sending them east to a designated area of the city like in other parts of Mexico that you pay to enter this Zona.

Tijuana has a female mayor along with the state governor is a female and they have been working very hard for more women's rights and protection. Next year Mexico will elect its first female president and more than likely to be the same party as the other females. So in those six years of her reign it will be interesting to see if this is the opportunity to make a change. The biggest obstacle might be the migrant issue at this time since that makes it harder for the US to back a more open pedestrian bridge which would require more agents.

It will be very interesting to see what the future holds but I wouldn't be surprised to have the Zona be completely different by 2030.

[Sol12]

I personally don't see the zona being around in 10 years. The land is too valuable at this point.

Yeah it's just a matter of the developers willing to invest in that area and they'd kick out the poor. They just did that in order to build the new Otay crossing.

The other day in the paper they had a group that was trying to convince the city officials to turn part of Revolution and some of the are before the Zona into the Zona Rosa. They want to make it more welcoming for LGBTQ in the same manner as Hillcrest.

Also this week they are supposed to start on construction for the new highway above Avenida Internacional.

Lots of changes coming but with the recent drop in the dollar the demand for new homes has fallen. So right now things might actually start to slow and prices drop. Just depends on the costs in SD.