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  1. #23747
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    Probably the future over next 10 years is status quo. Beyond that, with tijuana having already become Mexico 2nd biggest city in past few years, one has to think the real destiny for zona is high rise apartments being close to revolution. At 1st one could blame hk. But with all Tijuana inflation, Tijuana is flat out a rich man's city now. I spend more on hotels and food in Tijuana thaN san doego. It was nice having other bats like playboy club 8 yrs ago that had fun cheaper girls. Those days are over and everything is expensive.
    A couple of my favorites are texting me from Mexico City and Puebla, their new work cities because they can no longer afford the rent and cost of living in Tijuana.

    The inflation is also pricing out many of the girls. Not just you.

    I wonder if the Zona Norte will relocate in 10 years. Maybe Mexicali?

  2. #23746

    Girl power

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    Probably the future over next 10 years is status quo. Beyond that, with tijuana having already become Mexico 2nd biggest city in past few years, one has to think the real destiny for zona is high rise apartments being close to revolution. At 1st one could blame hk. But with all Tijuana inflation, Tijuana is flat out a rich man's city now. I spend more on hotels and food in Tijuana thaN san doego. It was nice having other bats like playboy club 8 yrs ago that had fun cheaper girls. Those days are over and everything is expensive.
    I seldom agree with Dogers but he has been talking about this for sometime and it could happen. Many in Tijuana have wanted to get rid of the Zona and make it more tourist friendly. They've had a plan fir many years to make a large pedestrian bridge connecting Plaza America directly into the Zona and to build that area up so that it would invite tourists to visit all the way to Revolution. With the rise in housing demand if they can get enough money behind it there is the possibility of the bars getting thrown out and possibly sending them east to a designated area of the city like in other parts of Mexico that you pay to enter this Zona.

    Tijuana has a female mayor along with the state governor is a female and they have been working very hard for more women's rights and protection. Next year Mexico will elect its first female president and more than likely to be the same party as the other females. So in those six years of her reign it will be interesting to see if this is the opportunity to make a change. The biggest obstacle might be the migrant issue at this time since that makes it harder for the US to back a more open pedestrian bridge which would require more agents.

    It will be very interesting to see what the future holds but I wouldn't be surprised to have the Zona be completely different by 2030.

  3. #23745

    What?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    But with all Tijuana inflation, Tijuana is flat out a rich man's city now. I spend more on hotels and food in Tijuana thaN san doego.
    If you've somehow managed to make hotel and food cost more in Tijuana than San Diego, my hats off to you on making the impossible happen.

  4. #23744

    No monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I spent 3 days in Tijuana at Cascadas and never barfined a lady. I guess I have gotten used to $27 short time here in Pattaya so that paying $120+ just seems way too high.

    My opinion is that Tijuana is being impacted by the near monopoly of Hong Kong bar, so that prices are too high. Which means that the stream of gringos coming to the Zona is becoming a trickle. So, the chica customer are more local Asians, Mexicanos (I suspect they get a discount), and random other foreigners (South Asians).

    In 5 years, the Zona will be unrecognizable, as more bars close.

    Unless some event intervenes (economic catastrophe, alien invasion).
    I wouldn't say HK has a recent monopoly on the Zona, it's been the same for many years. CC was dead as dead gets around 2014 to about 2018. I would always walk in for my first stop of the night and talk to a waiter I knew and have a drink. Sometimes it was so empty I told him sorry and would leave. Something changed around 2018 and my waiter was gone but they had more girls and started to get more clients. In March if 2020 just before COVID it was great.

    At that same time AB was getting slower and slower with undesirable girls and few clients. The only thing that helped them was the foreign girls but they didn't stay long. So when AB closed it just sent most customers to CC if they didn't like HK. All the other bars have been the same for years. The biggest difference in my opinion is the quality of girls. I think most just use internet sites more and have found it easier to make money off guys from dating sites like Seeking or pay sites. Even HK promotes a pay site but I'm not sure how many guys actually use it.

    Also if you look at other destinations in Mexico the price is almos the same so the girls in this business know what others are getting paid and the market will drive the pricing not HK.

  5. #23743

    Expensive

    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing24  [View Original Post]
    She told me she pays $450 USD per month for rent. Next time I see her in person I'll casually ask if any other girls live in the area.

    She knows me and my main girl don't use rubbers because we have had a couple threesomes before and I would never use a rubber when I fucked my girl but would put one on when I would have sex with T. It wasn't until last time we hooked up that she let me go in bare.

    One day me and my girl were just casually talking about stuff and she randomly brought up how T would go bare with a couple of her wealthy clients. I have no idea why she told me. I'm pretty sure I didn't really give her any type of reaction either way. She might have thought that I had an idea of T being more of a "good girl" than she actually is and wanted me to know she wasn't. But it was kind of a mistake on her part because once she told me that, I knew that sooner or later I would be able to attain BBFS from her. It will be interesting to see what happens next time we have a threesome again. I think at this point I would rather hook up with them separately as each time I have hooked up with T by herself, things have increasingly gotten more passionate. My girl has told me shes cool with me hooking up with T whenever shes not there. Although really she only knows about the first time we ever did because I wanted to see how she reacted to it and she just played it cool like it didnt bother her. I haven't told my girl about the last couple of times I have been with T since she still hasn't returned from home and I would rather tell her in person than on the phone..
    $450. Seems high to o me but maybe she has her own place or the prices have really jumped. Last year was talking to a girl that lived in that area and paid $250. Now we might be talking about completely different parts of Tijuana.

    I forgot about the threesome you had with them. So now I understand better. Thanks for the rundown.

  6. #23742
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    Probably the future over next 10 years is status quo. Beyond that, with tijuana having already become Mexico 2nd biggest city in past few years, one has to think the real destiny for zona is high rise apartments being close to revolution. At 1st one could blame hk. But with all Tijuana inflation, Tijuana is flat out a rich man's city now. I spend more on hotels and food in Tijuana thaN san doego. It was nice having other bats like playboy club 8 yrs ago that had fun cheaper girls. Those days are over and everything is expensive.
    The government will turn downtown into Disney, and you will be getting lap dances from Minnie Mouse. I'm not saying she isn't hot, but it's not going to be a good lap dance.

  7. #23741
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I spent 3 days in Tijuana at Cascadas and never barfined a lady. I guess I have gotten used to $27 short time here in Pattaya so that paying $120+ just seems way too high.

    My opinion is that Tijuana is being impacted by the near monopoly of Hong Kong bar, so that prices are too high. Which means that the stream of gringos coming to the Zona is becoming a trickle. So, the chica customer are more local Asians, Mexicanos (I suspect they get a discount), and random other foreigners (South Asians).

    In 5 years, the Zona will be unrecognizable, as more bars close.

    Unless some event intervenes (economic catastrophe, alien invasion).
    Probably the future over next 10 years is status quo. Beyond that, with tijuana having already become Mexico 2nd biggest city in past few years, one has to think the real destiny for zona is high rise apartments being close to revolution. At 1st one could blame hk. But with all Tijuana inflation, Tijuana is flat out a rich man's city now. I spend more on hotels and food in Tijuana thaN san doego. It was nice having other bats like playboy club 8 yrs ago that had fun cheaper girls. Those days are over and everything is expensive.

  8. #23740
    I spent 3 days in Tijuana at Cascadas and never barfined a lady. I guess I have gotten used to $27 short time here in Pattaya so that paying $120+ just seems way too high.

    My opinion is that Tijuana is being impacted by the near monopoly of Hong Kong bar, so that prices are too high. Which means that the stream of gringos coming to the Zona is becoming a trickle. So, the chica customer are more local Asians, Mexicanos (I suspect they get a discount), and random other foreigners (South Asians).

    In 5 years, the Zona will be unrecognizable, as more bars close.

    Unless some event intervenes (economic catastrophe, alien invasion).

  9. #23739
    I remember one of my favorites offered me BBFS because I was her only novio and I declined because HK had a recent gonorrhrea raid. Three months later she tells me that she was pregnant. But she narrowed the baby-daddy down to 3 guys. And I was not one of the three finalist. Was it possible she was not fully honest with me?

    No way!

  10. #23738
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol12  [View Original Post]
    The only thing I don't understand is how you get in these conversations with these girls about who does what raw. You said your main girl told you T does it with other guys. What was her point or reason for bringing that up? Also T said that she knows that you go bare with your fav and I forget if she told you your fav went bare with other guys. The point I'm trying to make is that I'd be suspicious about these two competing with each other and T might of been trying for you to admit you go bare with her friend because she might be gossiping that to other girls or maybe some big spending customer. If it was me I wouldn't give any information to girls about what I do with any other girl because they can't be trusted.

    Tijuana does have multiple neighborhoods that you go up a hill to get to but the way you described the drive just seemed familiar and I've been in that area a few times because different girls that work in the bars lived there. I imagine that they like it because it's affordable and still close to work so the don't spend much on taxi fare compared to living in the eastern part of the city. I'm sure the rent hasn't gone up in that area as much as the golden zone of Tijuana.
    She told me she pays $450 USD per month for rent. Next time I see her in person I'll casually ask if any other girls live in the area.

    She knows me and my main girl don't use rubbers because we have had a couple threesomes before and I would never use a rubber when I fucked my girl but would put one on when I would have sex with T. It wasn't until last time we hooked up that she let me go in bare.

    One day me and my girl were just casually talking about stuff and she randomly brought up how T would go bare with a couple of her wealthy clients. I have no idea why she told me. I'm pretty sure I didn't really give her any type of reaction either way. She might have thought that I had an idea of T being more of a "good girl" than she actually is and wanted me to know she wasn't. But it was kind of a mistake on her part because once she told me that, I knew that sooner or later I would be able to attain BBFS from her. It will be interesting to see what happens next time we have a threesome again. I think at this point I would rather hook up with them separately as each time I have hooked up with T by herself, things have increasingly gotten more passionate. My girl has told me shes cool with me hooking up with T whenever shes not there. Although really she only knows about the first time we ever did because I wanted to see how she reacted to it and she just played it cool like it didnt bother her. I haven't told my girl about the last couple of times I have been with T since she still hasn't returned from home and I would rather tell her in person than on the phone. I'm pretty sure T hasn't told her anything about it either. T hasn't told me my girl does anything bare, the closest she's gotten to it was this last time we got together and she said "who knows what else she's up to" in regards to my girl and wanting to know if I was clean as a result of being with her so much. But like I explained to her, I have been going bare with my girl for a long time now and have never caught anything, so it's safe to say my girl is clean as well so she doesn't have to worry about it. By saying who knows what else she's up to, T could have been trying to imply she knows something that I don't, which she very well could. I just know that I have never caught anything bad from my girl and that's what matters to me at the end of the day.

  11. #23737

    Reminder

    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing24  [View Original Post]
    The girls definitely play games though and try to fuck with your head. Thankfully I'm at the age where I have been there and done that with many of them and can pretty much deal with each one accordingly and have a boat load of counter arguments or talking points stacked in my head ready to go.

    Don't know if the neighborhood I dropped her off at is a popular place for the chicas to stay at. I think she would have mentioned it. But could be I suppose. I hadn't heard of a place like that outside of the zona. It was up a hill like you said but there's a shit load of places up hills in Tijuana LOL. I think I would have found my way out of there even without GPS because I used to date a civilian girl back in the day who lives a couple miles from there. I would just eventually find my way to the main road and I would have been good from there.
    The only thing I don't understand is how you get in these conversations with these girls about who does what raw. You said your main girl told you T does it with other guys. What was her point or reason for bringing that up? Also T said that she knows that you go bare with your fav and I forget if she told you your fav went bare with other guys. The point I'm trying to make is that I'd be suspicious about these two competing with each other and T might of been trying for you to admit you go bare with her friend because she might be gossiping that to other girls or maybe some big spending customer. If it was me I wouldn't give any information to girls about what I do with any other girl because they can't be trusted.

    Tijuana does have multiple neighborhoods that you go up a hill to get to but the way you described the drive just seemed familiar and I've been in that area a few times because different girls that work in the bars lived there. I imagine that they like it because it's affordable and still close to work so the don't spend much on taxi fare compared to living in the eastern part of the city. I'm sure the rent hasn't gone up in that area as much as the golden zone of Tijuana.

  12. #23736
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol12  [View Original Post]
    Good story and thanks for sharing. That's odd with the $30 beer thing it would be interesting to hear what exactly his explanation was in trying to charge that. If it happens again just tell him you want to talk to his Captain and he'll back down.

    The girl might be trying to have you to herself so by not giving you bare sex she thinks that you might say that you'll drop your other girl to only be with her. It's funny all the games they play and why I don't get involved with friends of my main girl. Who knows and it doesn't matter since she got so into it with you and let you do what you wanted.

    I've had the annoying drunk girl continue to ask the same question over and over again. The worst part is that these girls seem like fun in the bar and hotel room but when you take them out on a real date and they get drunk and your stuck babysitting them or being embarrassed by how the act.

    I'm impressed with your offer to give her a ride home. The guy asking for money I'm sure was just the local bum looking for some money, most places in Tijuana have guys asking for money when you park or help yo back out when you leave. With the distance that you drove I wonder if you went up a hill to get to her place, it's a popular part of Tijuana for the girls to stay. My first time going was very confusing and after I dropped my friend off I was confused on how I'd get back, no GPS in those days. Luckily it was day time so it made it easier.
    His explanation for charging $30 for 2 beers was so wacky, I can't even begin to explain it. It truly made zero sense. I could picture a tourist falling for it though, or just giving up on the argument and forking the money over just to get rid of him. But I made it clear from the start I wasn't going to pay $30 no matter what he told me. Just goes to show you have to stand your ground when a mesero is clearly in the wrong. Worst case scenario I would have just told him to take both drinks away and he would have gotten nothing. He didn't look familiar to the girl I was with so maybe it was just a newbie mistake on his part but who knows.

    There's definitely a stigma regarding BBFS amongst the girls. 3 out of the recent 4 I have gotten BBFS from have all sworn to me I'm the only client they go bare with and the other one hasn't necessarily implied similarly, but just also kept being annoying by repeatedly asking if I could assure her I was clean. Do I believe the 3 of the 4 telling me I'm the only one they do BBFS with? Hell no. I'm not that naive. Some may be a little more selective than others but there's definitely other guys hitting it raw also for sure. They get regularly tested so at least there's that. Sometimes when I see a particular girl gone for weeks or months at a time I wonder if it has to do with them catching something and having to wait to get clean again in order to return to work.

    The girls definitely play games though and try to fuck with your head. Thankfully I'm at the age where I have been there and done that with many of them and can pretty much deal with each one accordingly and have a boat load of counter arguments or talking points stacked in my head ready to go.

    I think this girl I was with was just trying to see if I would still fuck her under the guise of CFS to see how much I liked her. I would have came off bad IMO if I would have rejected the idea of fucking her with a rubber. She was just trying to see how I reacted. I just tried to play it cool. Once we got in the room and started fooling around in bed she made no mention or attempt to use a rubber at all. I even offered to throw one after we had already started and she just told me to keep going. I texted her the following day just to feel her out and see how she was doing and she said alright and that she had a good time with me.

    Don't know if the neighborhood I dropped her off at is a popular place for the chicas to stay at. I think she would have mentioned it. But could be I suppose. I hadn't heard of a place like that outside of the zona. It was up a hill like you said but there's a shit load of places up hills in Tijuana LOL. I think I would have found my way out of there even without GPS because I used to date a civilian girl back in the day who lives a couple miles from there. I would just eventually find my way to the main road and I would have been good from there.

  13. #23735

    Vascetomy

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorTJ  [View Original Post]
    Highly recommend that you get snipped. It's the ethical way to bbfscip.
    I had a vascetomy in 2017 and I don't regret it at all. Funny how a working girl shuts her mouth about being preggers with your baby when you show her the sperm analysis stating your sterile.

  14. #23734

    For sure

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorTJ  [View Original Post]
    Not only is it a short walk, it's a fun walk, past the red dragon metal bar, past all the mariachis, past hotel nelson. I would never ever pay $10 for that short drive.
    To add to the fun, I have a tendency to drop in Rio Verde for a couple $2 beers and have occasionally found a gem.

  15. #23733
    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing24  [View Original Post]
    This one is going to go a little long but I'll try to stick to the main details.
    Highly recommend that you get snipped. It's the ethical way to bbfscip.

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