General Reports

[TjBrazil]

Probably the future over next 10 years is status quo. Beyond that, with tijuana having already become Mexico 2nd biggest city in past few years, one has to think the real destiny for zona is high rise apartments being close to revolution. At 1st one could blame hk. But with all Tijuana inflation, Tijuana is flat out a rich man's city now. I spend more on hotels and food in Tijuana thaN san doego. It was nice having other bats like playboy club 8 yrs ago that had fun cheaper girls. Those days are over and everything is expensive.

The government will turn downtown into Disney, and you will be getting lap dances from Minnie Mouse. I'm not saying she isn't hot, but it's not going to be a good lap dance.

[Dogers69]

I spent 3 days in Tijuana at Cascadas and never barfined a lady. I guess I have gotten used to $27 short time here in Pattaya so that paying $120+ just seems way too high.

My opinion is that Tijuana is being impacted by the near monopoly of Hong Kong bar, so that prices are too high. Which means that the stream of gringos coming to the Zona is becoming a trickle. So, the chica customer are more local Asians, Mexicanos (I suspect they get a discount), and random other foreigners (South Asians).

In 5 years, the Zona will be unrecognizable, as more bars close.

Unless some event intervenes (economic catastrophe, alien invasion).

Probably the future over next 10 years is status quo. Beyond that, with tijuana having already become Mexico 2nd biggest city in past few years, one has to think the real destiny for zona is high rise apartments being close to revolution. At 1st one could blame hk. But with all Tijuana inflation, Tijuana is flat out a rich man's city now. I spend more on hotels and food in Tijuana thaN san doego. It was nice having other bats like playboy club 8 yrs ago that had fun cheaper girls. Those days are over and everything is expensive.

[Explorer8939]

I spent 3 days in Tijuana at Cascadas and never barfined a lady. I guess I have gotten used to $27 short time here in Pattaya so that paying $120+ just seems way too high.

My opinion is that Tijuana is being impacted by the near monopoly of Hong Kong bar, so that prices are too high. Which means that the stream of gringos coming to the Zona is becoming a trickle. So, the chica customer are more local Asians, Mexicanos (I suspect they get a discount), and random other foreigners (South Asians).

In 5 years, the Zona will be unrecognizable, as more bars close.

Unless some event intervenes (economic catastrophe, alien invasion).

[Jackie888]

I remember one of my favorites offered me BBFS because I was her only novio and I declined because HK had a recent gonorrhrea raid. Three months later she tells me that she was pregnant. But she narrowed the baby-daddy down to 3 guys. And I was not one of the three finalist. Was it possible she was not fully honest with me?

No way!

[Nothing24]

The only thing I don't understand is how you get in these conversations with these girls about who does what raw. You said your main girl told you T does it with other guys. What was her point or reason for bringing that up? Also T said that she knows that you go bare with your fav and I forget if she told you your fav went bare with other guys. The point I'm trying to make is that I'd be suspicious about these two competing with each other and T might of been trying for you to admit you go bare with her friend because she might be gossiping that to other girls or maybe some big spending customer. If it was me I wouldn't give any information to girls about what I do with any other girl because they can't be trusted.

Tijuana does have multiple neighborhoods that you go up a hill to get to but the way you described the drive just seemed familiar and I've been in that area a few times because different girls that work in the bars lived there. I imagine that they like it because it's affordable and still close to work so the don't spend much on taxi fare compared to living in the eastern part of the city. I'm sure the rent hasn't gone up in that area as much as the golden zone of Tijuana.

She told me she pays $450 USD per month for rent. Next time I see her in person I'll casually ask if any other girls live in the area.

She knows me and my main girl don't use rubbers because we have had a couple threesomes before and I would never use a rubber when I fucked my girl but would put one on when I would have sex with T. It wasn't until last time we hooked up that she let me go in bare.

One day me and my girl were just casually talking about stuff and she randomly brought up how T would go bare with a couple of her wealthy clients. I have no idea why she told me. I'm pretty sure I didn't really give her any type of reaction either way. She might have thought that I had an idea of T being more of a "good girl" than she actually is and wanted me to know she wasn't. But it was kind of a mistake on her part because once she told me that, I knew that sooner or later I would be able to attain BBFS from her. It will be interesting to see what happens next time we have a threesome again. I think at this point I would rather hook up with them separately as each time I have hooked up with T by herself, things have increasingly gotten more passionate. My girl has told me shes cool with me hooking up with T whenever shes not there. Although really she only knows about the first time we ever did because I wanted to see how she reacted to it and she just played it cool like it didnt bother her. I haven't told my girl about the last couple of times I have been with T since she still hasn't returned from home and I would rather tell her in person than on the phone. I'm pretty sure T hasn't told her anything about it either. T hasn't told me my girl does anything bare, the closest she's gotten to it was this last time we got together and she said "who knows what else she's up to" in regards to my girl and wanting to know if I was clean as a result of being with her so much. But like I explained to her, I have been going bare with my girl for a long time now and have never caught anything, so it's safe to say my girl is clean as well so she doesn't have to worry about it. By saying who knows what else she's up to, T could have been trying to imply she knows something that I don't, which she very well could. I just know that I have never caught anything bad from my girl and that's what matters to me at the end of the day.

[Sol12]

The girls definitely play games though and try to fuck with your head. Thankfully I'm at the age where I have been there and done that with many of them and can pretty much deal with each one accordingly and have a boat load of counter arguments or talking points stacked in my head ready to go.

Don't know if the neighborhood I dropped her off at is a popular place for the chicas to stay at. I think she would have mentioned it. But could be I suppose. I hadn't heard of a place like that outside of the zona. It was up a hill like you said but there's a shit load of places up hills in Tijuana LOL. I think I would have found my way out of there even without GPS because I used to date a civilian girl back in the day who lives a couple miles from there. I would just eventually find my way to the main road and I would have been good from there.

The only thing I don't understand is how you get in these conversations with these girls about who does what raw. You said your main girl told you T does it with other guys. What was her point or reason for bringing that up? Also T said that she knows that you go bare with your fav and I forget if she told you your fav went bare with other guys. The point I'm trying to make is that I'd be suspicious about these two competing with each other and T might of been trying for you to admit you go bare with her friend because she might be gossiping that to other girls or maybe some big spending customer. If it was me I wouldn't give any information to girls about what I do with any other girl because they can't be trusted.

Tijuana does have multiple neighborhoods that you go up a hill to get to but the way you described the drive just seemed familiar and I've been in that area a few times because different girls that work in the bars lived there. I imagine that they like it because it's affordable and still close to work so the don't spend much on taxi fare compared to living in the eastern part of the city. I'm sure the rent hasn't gone up in that area as much as the golden zone of Tijuana.

[Nothing24]

Good story and thanks for sharing. That's odd with the $30 beer thing it would be interesting to hear what exactly his explanation was in trying to charge that. If it happens again just tell him you want to talk to his Captain and he'll back down.

The girl might be trying to have you to herself so by not giving you bare sex she thinks that you might say that you'll drop your other girl to only be with her. It's funny all the games they play and why I don't get involved with friends of my main girl. Who knows and it doesn't matter since she got so into it with you and let you do what you wanted.

I've had the annoying drunk girl continue to ask the same question over and over again. The worst part is that these girls seem like fun in the bar and hotel room but when you take them out on a real date and they get drunk and your stuck babysitting them or being embarrassed by how the act.

I'm impressed with your offer to give her a ride home. The guy asking for money I'm sure was just the local bum looking for some money, most places in Tijuana have guys asking for money when you park or help yo back out when you leave. With the distance that you drove I wonder if you went up a hill to get to her place, it's a popular part of Tijuana for the girls to stay. My first time going was very confusing and after I dropped my friend off I was confused on how I'd get back, no GPS in those days. Luckily it was day time so it made it easier.

His explanation for charging $30 for 2 beers was so wacky, I can't even begin to explain it. It truly made zero sense. I could picture a tourist falling for it though, or just giving up on the argument and forking the money over just to get rid of him. But I made it clear from the start I wasn't going to pay $30 no matter what he told me. Just goes to show you have to stand your ground when a mesero is clearly in the wrong. Worst case scenario I would have just told him to take both drinks away and he would have gotten nothing. He didn't look familiar to the girl I was with so maybe it was just a newbie mistake on his part but who knows.

There's definitely a stigma regarding BBFS amongst the girls. 3 out of the recent 4 I have gotten BBFS from have all sworn to me I'm the only client they go bare with and the other one hasn't necessarily implied similarly, but just also kept being annoying by repeatedly asking if I could assure her I was clean. Do I believe the 3 of the 4 telling me I'm the only one they do BBFS with? Hell no. I'm not that naive. Some may be a little more selective than others but there's definitely other guys hitting it raw also for sure. They get regularly tested so at least there's that. Sometimes when I see a particular girl gone for weeks or months at a time I wonder if it has to do with them catching something and having to wait to get clean again in order to return to work.

The girls definitely play games though and try to fuck with your head. Thankfully I'm at the age where I have been there and done that with many of them and can pretty much deal with each one accordingly and have a boat load of counter arguments or talking points stacked in my head ready to go.

I think this girl I was with was just trying to see if I would still fuck her under the guise of CFS to see how much I liked her. I would have came off bad IMO if I would have rejected the idea of fucking her with a rubber. She was just trying to see how I reacted. I just tried to play it cool. Once we got in the room and started fooling around in bed she made no mention or attempt to use a rubber at all. I even offered to throw one after we had already started and she just told me to keep going. I texted her the following day just to feel her out and see how she was doing and she said alright and that she had a good time with me.

Don't know if the neighborhood I dropped her off at is a popular place for the chicas to stay at. I think she would have mentioned it. But could be I suppose. I hadn't heard of a place like that outside of the zona. It was up a hill like you said but there's a shit load of places up hills in Tijuana LOL. I think I would have found my way out of there even without GPS because I used to date a civilian girl back in the day who lives a couple miles from there. I would just eventually find my way to the main road and I would have been good from there.

[SeaBeeJoe]

Highly recommend that you get snipped. It's the ethical way to bbfscip.

I had a vascetomy in 2017 and I don't regret it at all. Funny how a working girl shuts her mouth about being preggers with your baby when you show her the sperm analysis stating your sterile.

[LuvMexicanas]

Not only is it a short walk, it's a fun walk, past the red dragon metal bar, past all the mariachis, past hotel nelson. I would never ever pay $10 for that short drive.

To add to the fun, I have a tendency to drop in Rio Verde for a couple $2 beers and have occasionally found a gem.

[SenorTJ]

This one is going to go a little long but I'll try to stick to the main details.

Highly recommend that you get snipped. It's the ethical way to bbfscip.

[SenorTJ]

It's just a 10 minute walk and exercise is good for the body especially to burn off the calories from alcohol.

Not only is it a short walk, it's a fun walk, past the red dragon metal bar, past all the mariachis, past hotel nelson. I would never ever pay $10 for that short drive.

[Sol12]

Good story and thanks for sharing. That's odd with the $30 beer thing it would be interesting to hear what exactly his explanation was in trying to charge that. If it happens again just tell him you want to talk to his Captain and he'll back down.

The girl might be trying to have you to herself so by not giving you bare sex she thinks that you might say that you'll drop your other girl to only be with her. It's funny all the games they play and why I don't get involved with friends of my main girl. Who knows and it doesn't matter since she got so into it with you and let you do what you wanted.

I've had the annoying drunk girl continue to ask the same question over and over again. The worst part is that these girls seem like fun in the bar and hotel room but when you take them out on a real date and they get drunk and your stuck babysitting them or being embarrassed by how the act.

I'm impressed with your offer to give her a ride home. The guy asking for money I'm sure was just the local bum looking for some money, most places in Tijuana have guys asking for money when you park or help yo back out when you leave. With the distance that you drove I wonder if you went up a hill to get to her place, it's a popular part of Tijuana for the girls to stay. My first time going was very confusing and after I dropped my friend off I was confused on how I'd get back, no GPS in those days. Luckily it was day time so it made it easier.

[Nothing24]

This one is going to go a little long but I'll try to stick to the main details. Things have been kind of slow around here lately so I'll provide another short story for those who don't mind a little bit of reading.

Decided to take a chance and drove into Tijuana instead of taking the trolley since I was feeling lazy. Checked into my room and headed to the club. Just as I was about to walk in I saw T, the girl I wrote about who had blacked out on me around a month ago, going arriba. We locked eyes and waved to each other. For those that don't remember, she is a very good friend of my main HK girl. I headed inside and just hung out for a while. A girl I banged a few times last year saw me and came over for a while to talk and kill some time. Later on I spotted a spinner giving some guy a lot of action by the bar and was hoping he would eventually ditch her but he ended up taking her arriba, which I don't blame him. She seemed like a wild one. A little while after that I saw T walking back into the club with one of her friends. They both got themselves a couple mixed drinks at the bar. I just kept an eye on her from afar and her friend ended up going to the bathroom after a few minutes. T started walking my way, although I don't think she had noticed me, but she then saw me and came right over and planted a big kiss on me. She was a little tipsy but not drunk like last time. She asked what I was up to and I told her just hanging out. She asked if I would go sit with her at Chavelas since she owed them some time and I said sure. She was getting down to her last sips of her mixed drink and asked if she could order a beer and I said sure. I told the mesero to bring me one as well. When the mesero came back he asked me for $30. I said come again? $30, for what? He said for the drinks. I said we only ordered 2 beers, she already had the drink from before. He then went on to try to justify charging me $30 for the 2 beers but it made absolutely zero sense. I started to go off on him and said there was absolutely no way I was going to pay $30 for 2 beers. I told him it should be $15 at most. He tried his best to stand firm but I told him he was crazy if he thought he was going to get $30 out of me for 2 beers. Another mesero came over and had a chat with him on the side. He came back and said ok $15. WTF? I then paid for the drinks and told him to get lost. It was annoying because it made me appear cheap in front of T, but I told her sorry but nobody likes being ripped off. She said it was fine and that the mesero must be new. We talked about what went down last time about her passing out and she said she was still feeling embarrassed about it. I told her not to worry about it. She also said she didn't mean to give off the wrong impression because she let me go in bare and that she never does that (to which my girl claims otherwise with a select few). She then asked if I was really clean and I said well yeah we banged about a month ago, have you gotten anything? She said well it's just that I know you also fuck my friend bare and I don't know if she has anything or what else she's up to. I said well I've been fucking her that way pretty much ever since I met her and I'm clean so it's pretty safe to say she's clean as well. After we moved past that and eased her up about it then she finally started making out with me.

She then asked what I wanted to do. I told her whatever you want. She said no you tell me. I said well we can go to my room if you want to, I'm fine with not going if you don't want to. She said yeah let's go but if we do it we have to use a rubber this time, I really don't do that kind of stuff. I thought to myself well fuck this then, but then thought maybe she was just testing me to see what I would say. I guess her friend spotted us and came over to ask her if she was ok since she knew she was tipsy. She said yeah I'm ok and then asked me what I wanted to do again. I told her let's do whatever, I said let's go if you want to. She said ok but covered. I said yes, fine, whatever. It's all good. She said ok let's go and told her friend she was leaving with me and that I was a friend of hers and that she would be ok. We got to my room and she asked if she could get a beer from the mini bar. She saw I had some tequila and we did a couple shots as well. We then hopped on the bed and started making out big time. She put my hand towards her pussy so I could finger her. She was really wet and had me turned on so I said fuck it and started eating her out. She was squeaky clean, not a hint of any taste or smell and just continued going to town and had her screaming in pleasure. I finally got naked and she pulled me in to make out some more. I got on top of her in the missionary position but was just making out, occasionally grazing her pussy with my bare dick. The more we kept going, the more I started working my way inside little by little giving her plenty of time to tell me to grab a rubber but she never did. Sure enough after a couple minutes of teasing we were full on fucking bare. Eventually I did ask if she wanted me to strap up and she said what for, we're already fucking. I said well so when I finish it's inside the bag and not inside or I could pull out if you want. She said just keep going, we're already past that. So maybe she was testing me after all? Who knows. I ended up finishing in cowgirl and asked her if I should pull out but she just kept going when I told her I was cumming so I finished inside. She then collapsed on top of me and asked if I was clean again. She was starting to get annoying with this dumb shit but I just said yes I promise.

She hopped in the shower and I stood nearby because I was kind of worried she was going to slip since she was slightly drunk. She then told me to just go inside with her. We then started making out again and she bent over and we started going at it in doggy. She was screaming really loud and talking dirty. I ended up busting again. She turned around and kept kissing me, feeling each other up and said she loved me. I said hey don't say anything you'll regret. You don't have to say that stuff to me. She then turned around so I could fuck her again. I laughed and said you got to give me a break, I literally just finished for the second time. She kept trying to stroke me to get hard and licking my neck, well I'll be damn if she didn't get me hard again within a few more minutes so we started fucking again. I kept expecting a knock at the door but never got one. This girl literally did not want to stop fucking. Next time I have to load up on some blue pills as an insurance policy to take it even further if she wants to marathon fuck. After we were done we soaped each other up and rinsed off. We got dressed and her friend kept calling her asking if she was ok. She said yeah and that she was going to head back. She said she was getting off now and was going to take a Uber back home with her friend who was staying with her. I mentioned I had drove this time around and she asked if I would take her home so she wouldn't have to Uber. I asked if she lived far away and she said no. I said ok sure if you want and she said let me go get my stuff and I'll let you know when I'm out. I couldn't help but think my main girl would be pissed if she found out what was happening LOL. Oh well.

She asked if we could take her friend to pick up some clothes from another friends house about 5 minutes away. Damn I hate driving around the zona but I guess I couldn't back out now. God must have been looking out for me because miraculously I didn't get pulled over despite driving past several cop cars and trucks on shady isolated streets. There was even some national guard soldiers on some dark corners just hanging out, I wonder what that was about. We dropped her friend off so she could get her stuff and some shady looking guy popped up out of nowhere and said it was 50 pesos to park on that street. I didn't even acknowledge him and took off, decided to circle the area until the girl called us back when she was ready. Who knows if that guy had anything on him. It could very well have been a bum just wanting some spare change but I didn't want to take the risk by staying there. Her friend eventually asked where we went and we came back around. T said she was hungry and asked to go to a nearby taco stand. I said fuck this lets get out of here and go somewhere near your house. She said yeah good thinking. Ran across several more cop cars along the way and thankfully didn't get pulled over. It was now well past midnight. We ended up eating tacos in her neighborhood which turned out to be pretty good. She offered to pay since I was giving them a ride but I told her it was fine and that I got it. Her house ended up being a little further than I thought it would be since we had to take a shit load of streets through several communities, ended up being about 15-20 minutes from the zona due to taking the small streets most of the way. If it was all freeway if would have probably only taken 10 minutes. Her friend was really tired so I wasn't really trying to hang out after that although T said she would have been down. She told me we should go out somewhere sometime and I said sure. I dropped them off and got a good long kiss good night. After that I was just hoping to be able to get back to the border without getting lost but google maps ended up coming through clutch. Headed straight to the border with zero wait in line.

[LuvMexicanas]

It's just a 10 minute walk and exercise is good for the body especially to burn off the calories from alcohol.

[Explorer8939]

More observations:

Tijuana has still not recovered from Covid, in the sense that many shops and restaurants are closed. Revolucióand has an additional problem of construction closing down long stretches.

Hong Kong bar has expanded, but by cannibalizing the other bars in the Zona. Soon, HK will be an island in an area empty of bars.

Bar Tropical was dead today. Never seen it so empty.

Lots of signs for meseras. At the same time, the percent of locals in the bars has increased. It's a sign that an improving economy. More men in the Zona, less ladies. And the percent of ladies in HK with expensive surgery is way up. At $100+ for Short Time, it makes economic sense, let's say 5 STs a week is $25,000+ a year income, so investing $5000 for surgery pays off.

The expansion of Hotel Adelitas has halted, and it looks to be a bit of a hazard, with shoddy scaffolding hanging in the air over the Callejon.

I paid $10 for a taxi from HK to Restaurante Cesar. Coming back, I had a Mexican lady get the taxi - 70 pesos.