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[DramaFree11]

Tijuana is the best in mexico in term of choice prices and access. The girls come from all over the country.

Second I would say guadalajara. They have many cheap "esteticas masculinas" and the girls tend to be prettier.

Third I would say mexico city. La merced has a large selection but the girls are mostly 3-4. At night you have street girls like in sullivan's but the girls are expensive from what I remember. And I don't like the weather there.

Thats from the places I know. I herd that monterrey and cancun are more expensive. I went to acapulco many years ago and I was very disappointed.

Mexicali is dead at the moment due to covid.

GDL is very cheap for girls maybe not the best. MTY / M. City SA works great, but there are major lockdowns at the moment. You might want to stick with Tijuana, until things get back to normal.

[BigButtDetecto]

Anybody knows other places than la zona?

I know a few like site de copas or la cueva del pelludo. They are probably closed due to covid.

Don't waste your time in deja vu. Nothing to see there.

[BigButtDetecto]

I'm looking for an option in MX other than Tijuana, ideally with a more vacation vibe. Are there any good options that have both good beach and mongering scene?

Options outside MX that are allowing travel from US would be great as well.

Thanks in advance!

Tijuana is the best in mexico in term of choice prices and access. The girls come from all over the country.

Second I would say guadalajara. They have many cheap "esteticas masculinas" and the girls tend to be prettier.

Third I would say mexico city. La merced has a large selection but the girls are mostly 3-4. At night you have street girls like in sullivan's but the girls are expensive from what I remember. And I don't like the weather there.

Thats from the places I know. I herd that monterrey and cancun are more expensive. I went to acapulco many years ago and I was very disappointed.

Mexicali is dead at the moment due to covid.

[BrotherMouzone]

So is the crossing open in San Diego? I was reading an article saying it was closed until at least Feb. 21st for nonessential travel. I'm thinking of visiting Tijuana the first week of March.

The Feb. 21st date you read about in the news is yet another extension of a "ban" on nonessential travel between the USA And Mexico that's been in place since late March of 2020. Would just ignore it. In practice it's not really being enforced. (I've been across the border from the USA Twice since the nonessential travel ban was imposed and Mexican customs officials let me through despite my passport being expired both times.) To be safe, you should claim an essential reason for crossing the border in case they ask, like going to the dentist.

[BigButtDetecto]

So is the crossing open in San Diego? I was reading an article saying it was closed until at least Feb. 21st for nonessential travel. I'm thinking of visiting Tijuana the first week of March.

Yes the pedeast is. You normally need a valid reason to come back but I am seldom asked because they know I have an appartment in Tijuana. Better cross by car. Otherwise you will have to pay the $30 visa that last 6 months.

[BrotherMouzone]

You can be assured that any guy who posts on ISG does not have game. Guys who have game do not pay for sex, they are paid.

LOL, this may be true for a lot of cases but it's is a bad generalization IMO. Plenty of guys with "game" pay for sex. At the end of the day even many guys with above average "game" can appreciate the low-effort nature of mongering. There are plenty of guys on ISG with wives / long-term girlfriends at home who still pay for sex. But I assume they had enough "game" to pick up their significant other. And you'd be surprised at the number of celebrities, athletes, etc. Who'd presumably have the pull to pick up any chick they want, who pay for high-class escorts here in the USA The porn industry, for example, is littered with chicks who've slept with high-profile people, often for $$.

[Dogers69]

I've seen what you're referring to and I don't believe that's the case here. What I experienced was a deliberate, concerted effort between masero and chica to bully me into buying a ficha that I never ordered. Dead giveaway was, neither she nor I spoke to the masero prior to him bringing the drink, yet she repeatedly insisted that I had ordered the drink and that she had seen me do it. This is a scam, guys. Don't know if it's just her and this one masero or if there are more chicas involved. Again, she goes by the bar name of Yoko, medium height, nice, natural T&A, overly friendly, speaks good English. Just posting this for everyone's info. Beware.

Don't sweat this stuff. Its normal experience that's gone up 1000% since real clubs are closed. I've had it happen to me in HK, Chicago, and Korea, just in 2 months. Insist on not paying demand to see manager, get up and walk to a security guy, hope nobody pops you in the head from behind. This week a girl had 5 drinks with me I told her no more she needed to go find sex guys and she still told the guy 2 more drinks. In Chicago. I said no walked away.

[AdweyLand]

So is the crossing open in San Diego? I was reading an article saying it was closed until at least Feb. 21st for nonessential travel. I'm thinking of visiting Tijuana the first week of March.

[DramaFree11]

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[Elvis 2008]

Another pointless argument that neither of you can win.

My take: I don't have real game. I would bet most of us lack any real game. I know there's about a 1 in 100 chance that I'd have any luck with the girls I've been with if I wasn't a paying customer. However, I have had some great successes after one or two paid dates. I've had two semi-serious relationships that developed. (By that, I mean real dates, no pay for play, and a serious and monogamous relationship. I think. LOL) So I'd just say there are different types of game. My "game" consists of being a gentleman, being genuine, and kind. Undoubtedly, that'll cause a few chuckles among many here. I would not even call it game. But it has led to some stellar experiences over the years.

Dcrist,

Game is using techniques and behaviors that lead to sexual intimacy. In a club like Hong Kong, where you are going to get laid, game is using those techniques and behavior to get a better experience.

Mr. E started this by saying he does not pay working girls for drinks. In a sense he is right. You cannot manufacture passion and desire with money, however you can by getting to know the woman better by talking with her when buying the drink. Turgid was actually describing game when he said buying a drink can lead to a better experience. It is not the drink or the act; it is the interaction with the woman and getting to know her and making her more comfortable with you.

Negging, peacocking, cave manning are all techniques of the game as described in the book by Neil Strauss and that is where the word game came from. The whole idea you buy a $100,000 car to get a woman you could have for $100 does not make sense to me. You are buying a $100,000 car just so you can say you are not paying for it?

The hot women have all seen the shit from these techniques a mile away. When a guy tried to show a gal of mine his car, she said, "Well, where is mine?

So if the standard fare in Hong Kong is $100 for 30 minutes with a CBJ, game is.

Having her stay 45+ minutes, Getting a BBBJ, going bare, getting her phone number and seeing and meeting her outside the club for much less, connecting with the woman and having a better experience.

When you use seeking.com like DF is doing, what other guys say is that all the women are working girls. It is not like that. Sure, they take money for sex, but they want to see your picture, often meet you first and expect dinner or a drink, and getting laid is no sure thing. You have to make the women comfortable and not feel like hookers when they take money from you for sex. I know it is crazy but it is true. Using seeking.com unlike an escort agency is work. You have to wean out the girls and they are weaning you out. It does game to reel them in.

So why do that as opposed to just using an escort agency? Because there is no clock, there is genuine affection, the women are hotter, and the sex is often way better. The women do not watch the clock and some do practically anything I say. Guys who have used seeking as opposed to guys who claim the women are all working girls know it is a harder but often richer experience. Right now, as DF has pointed ut, Monterrey is the shit, and I am speaking from experience not pretending like I know it all after not having done something.

This is the second time in my life, the other was in Brazil 15 years or so ago, that I am actually tired of sex.

Getting better sex by being nice is your game. Game does not have to be sneaky. It is whatever it takes to have sexual relations or better sexual relations.

BTW, the author of the game did not end up doing all that great: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ame-book-truth.

[ScatManDoo]

Another pointless argument that neither of you can win.

My take: I don't have real game. I would bet most of us lack any real game. I know there's about a 1 in 100 chance that I'd have any luck with the girls I've been with if I wasn't a paying customer. However, I have had some great successes after one or two paid dates. I've had two semi-serious relationships that developed. (By that, I mean real dates, no pay for play, and a serious and monogamous relationship. I think. LOL) So I'd just say there are different types of game. My "game" consists of being a gentleman, being genuine, and kind.

In other words.

The lame game.

Undoubtedly, that'll cause a few chuckles among many here.

Undoubtedly.

I would not even call it game.

Yet you did hahahaha.

[LuvMexicanas]

Another pointless argument that neither of you can win.

My take: I don't have real game. I would bet most of us lack any real game. I know there's about a 1 in 100 chance that I'd have any luck with the girls I've been with if I wasn't a paying customer. However, I have had some great successes after one or two paid dates. I've had two semi-serious relationships that developed. (By that, I mean real dates, no pay for play, and a serious and monogamous relationship. I think. LOL) So I'd just say there are different types of game. My "game" consists of being a gentleman, being genuine, and kind. Undoubtedly, that'll cause a few chuckles among many here. I would not even call it game. But it has led to some stellar experiences over the years.

I appreciate that you're keeping it real. You did that also on another Tijuana thread when you said nothing bores you or causes more controversy on a hooker board than a COVID argument. That's exactly right and I think the same thing applies to "game" on a hooker board. In other words, the dollars or pesos in your pocket are "game" for mongers, but I suppose drama queen thinks he's the 1 in 100 as you so eloquently put.

[Babe Magnet]

The other scam is if they say you need to buy a bucket for the girl to sit with you or even for her to go up to the room with you. The wine girl told me I needed to buy 7 drinks before she would be "allowed" to go to the room with me. Stupid, because she knew I wasn't a newbie.

I had dinner with an AB chica earlier this week and she told me AB is instituting a new policy of 5 fichas before you can take a chica arriba. I told her that's going to kill her business to which she agreed and said she's considering moving to HK if and when the new policy takes place. This chica has been with AB for 3 years and should know what she's talking about.

[Babe Magnet]

Yeah, meseros bringing drinks you didn't ask for happens occasionally.

I've seen what you're referring to and I don't believe that's the case here. What I experienced was a deliberate, concerted effort between masero and chica to bully me into buying a ficha that I never ordered. Dead giveaway was, neither she nor I spoke to the masero prior to him bringing the drink, yet she repeatedly insisted that I had ordered the drink and that she had seen me do it. This is a scam, guys. Don't know if it's just her and this one masero or if there are more chicas involved. Again, she goes by the bar name of Yoko, medium height, nice, natural T&A, overly friendly, speaks good English. Just posting this for everyone's info. Beware.

[Sosa23]

I'm looking for an option in MX other than Tijuana, ideally with a more vacation vibe. Are there any good options that have both good beach and mongering scene?

Options outside MX that are allowing travel from US would be great as well.

Thanks in advance!