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  1. #18981
    Clip joint and Tijuana clubs shouldn't be in the same sentence. You can get laid as much as you desire. US nightlife just takes your money and gives you nothing. Clubs have $20+ cover charges. They don't even serve beer in California. Lap dances are 40 bucks for like 6 minutes and then it's over, you get nothing done. A $9 ficha gets you at least 15 minutes of unlimited touching, kissing, flirting.

  2. #18980

    Tijuana Clubs Great but also Clip Joint Warning

    Even though I voice some complaints at times, the collection of clubs in Zona Norte is far better than anywhere in the USA. Further the basic going rate for a sexual session is $80 or slightly less if you pay in pesos for half an hour to a full hour if you have your own room. Guys should really book rooms for the night.

    The street girls are much less which has been covered on here a lot.

    The clubs also do operate in some ways like USA clip joints. Lots of pressure to spend money fast, drink a lot of alcohol, short you on time if your not using your own room for the night.

    I avoid Strip club clip joints in the USA like the plague and stick to local clubs with low pressure to buy drinks or private services.

  3. #18979
    Quote Originally Posted by AZNLover  [View Original Post]
    I'm a Tijuana newbie and have a question of how it works at HK. I was there in the afternoon when it was quiet, I was looking to just sit in a booth, drink, and partake in the sights. But then a girl decided to invite her self in. Anyways, what's the equitte to get rid of a girl or swap her with someone more my taste?

    I ended up getting up from the booth and tipping her a $20 to get away from her, but what's your strategy to shoo away girls you're not interested in?

    Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman306  [View Original Post]
    A newbie recently posted on here asking for some advice.

    Unfortunately, it's hard to just sit back and sight see for any length of time. Chicas will make their rounds, maseros will bring chicas over and then quickly sell a fischa unless you decline her company. This cycle will repeat many times during your visit.

    The only chances to sight see is if the club is really packed, or if you grab yourself a drink from the bar and walk around the club continuously without sitting down.
    Welcome to Tijuana. As you've figured out, normal rules of etiquette don't always apply. The experienced girls can small a newbie from a mile away.

    OK, first rule. It's YOUR money. YOU are the customer and you'll need to make sure things run YOUR way. HK is, first and foremost, a Mexican clip joint. They exist to separate you from your money as quickly as possible.

    Notice the seating. If you walk into a club, and most seats are occupied by girls loafing around, what does your mesero do? He chases them away and seats YOU, the customer. See, you're spending money, and the girls aren't. (I'm leading up to my point. Bear with me) If you choose to just sit and stare, as long as you're drinking, you can do so for as long as you like. If you wish to be left alone you can be, but you'll need to make it clear in the correct manner. Remember the part I said about etiquette.

    The meseros often bring girls around. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. Lots of guys are socially awkward and won't approach a girl. (In most Latino countries it's considered bad form for the girls to make the first move) So, the mesero brings one around. If you don't want her, you simply say No, gracias with a smile. (This is not to be confused with them bringing a girl around after a dance routine, where you're expected to tip her for her performance). After you reject the first couple of girls they'll stop bringing them. I've had them come up, sin chica, and ask if I wanted a girl. If they do that, just say you're waiting for a friend, or just want to relax. They get it.

    If a mesero brings a girl around, and you like her, invite her to sit. The mesero will immediately want you to order a ficha drink. DO NOT DO THAT. You say "un ratito" and hold up your thumb and forefinger. Or tell him to come back in 2 minutes. Or similar. This gives you a couple minutes to decide if you want to buy her a drink. If he persists, tell both him and the girl to get lost. Remember, it's YOUR money. They bank on gringos being too polite for their own good. Don't be an asshole, but do be firm.

    If a girl comes around of her own volition, she usually says "Do you want company?" You can just say no, thanks. I'm _ (insert excuse here). If she persists, then it's time to get firm. No, gracias! Dejame in paz if the no, gracias, doesn't work. There is absolutely zero reason to tip a girl $20, and then give up your seat. However, it is necessary to tip her a buck or two if you get to feel the goods.

  4. #18978
    Quote Originally Posted by AZNLover  [View Original Post]
    I'm a Tijuana newbie and have a question of how it works at HK. I was there in the afternoon when it was quiet, I was looking to just sit in a booth, drink, and partake in the sights. But then a girl decided to invite her self in. Anyways, what's the equitte to get rid of a girl or swap her with someone more my taste?

    I ended up getting up from the booth and tipping her a $20 to get away from her, but what's your strategy to shoo away girls you're not interested in?

    Thanks.
    You can simply say no thank you.

    You really don't need an explanation or tip or do anything else. If you are uncomfortable, tell the chica you are waiting for a favorite. If you really want to get rid of her for the day, tell her you ran out of money.

  5. #18977
    Quote Originally Posted by AZNLover  [View Original Post]
    I'm a Tijuana newbie and have a question of how it works at HK. I was there in the afternoon when it was quiet, I was looking to just sit in a booth, drink, and partake in the sights. But then a girl decided to invite her self in. Anyways, what's the equitte to get rid of a girl or swap her with someone more my taste?

    I ended up getting up from the booth and tipping her a $20 to get away from her, but what's your strategy to shoo away girls you're not interested in?

    Thanks.
    You gave a chica $20 to leave you alone? Most likely you have been labeled now. I'm sorry but chicks prey on guys like you. An easy mark for a payday. May I suggest that you toughen up your stance and trying a different technique. Throwing away money in such a way will only get you marked as an easy target. Word gets around quickly.

  6. #18976
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    It's extremely foolish to risk arrest for prostitution, losing one's career, family, respect of family and friends. It's a huge hit if you get arrested for proposing to police decoys in their stings. Guys so hard up for sex ended up doing stupid, illegal things and get their lives ruined.

    Unfortunately human's need for sex is as essential as food, and guys who have little choice or other alternatives would still take the risk hoping for a few minutes of intimacy with women. It's a sad situation all around. Families are bed rock for societies. The government wants yo to get sex strictly at home, support your family, put up with stupid shit from the wifeys, pay your alimony and child support on time. It's a lot of legal liability just to fuck ugly US women. That's why the marriage rate is lower than ever. Millenias are not marrying anyone. Guys just save their money and headache and go overseas to date and fuck nice, sweet, sexy, agreeable young girls without huge legal liabilities.

    We are very lucky to live near Tijuana with hundreds hot girls available for sweet companies and hot sex every night. You cannot beat this arrangement.

    He, he guys If you complain about the service at Zona Norte, here's the reality. In Tampa, Florida, USA. 71 guys arrested in prostitution sting and photos and names made public. In the US, politicians cannot do such a simple thing as legalize prostitution. News.

    Hillsborough.

    71 arrested in Hillsborough prostitution sting ahead of Super Bowl 55.
    Right. If honest, most American men would not fall into the marriage / kids / suburbia trap if they could relive their lives.

  7. #18975

    Newbie Question -Sight Seeing

    A newbie recently posted on here asking for some advice.

    Unfortunately, it's hard to just sit back and sight see for any length of time. Chicas will make their rounds, maseros will bring chicas over and then quickly sell a fischa unless you decline her company. This cycle will repeat many times during your visit.

    The only chances to sight see is if the club is really packed, or if you grab yourself a drink from the bar and walk around the club continuously without sitting down.

  8. #18974

    Comparison: Zona Norte Tijuana to Tampa Florida USA

    It's extremely foolish to risk arrest for prostitution, losing one's career, family, respect of family and friends. It's a huge hit if you get arrested for proposing to police decoys in their stings. Guys so hard up for sex ended up doing stupid, illegal things and get their lives ruined.

    Unfortunately human's need for sex is as essential as food, and guys who have little choice or other alternatives would still take the risk hoping for a few minutes of intimacy with women. It's a sad situation all around. Families are bed rock for societies. The government wants yo to get sex strictly at home, support your family, put up with stupid shit from the wifeys, pay your alimony and child support on time. It's a lot of legal liability just to fuck ugly US women. That's why the marriage rate is lower than ever. Millenias are not marrying anyone. Guys just save their money and headache and go overseas to date and fuck nice, sweet, sexy, agreeable young girls without huge legal liabilities.

    We are very lucky to live near Tijuana with hundreds hot girls available for sweet companies and hot sex every night. You cannot beat this arrangement.

    He, he guys If you complain about the service at Zona Norte, here's the reality. In Tampa, Florida, USA. 71 guys arrested in prostitution sting and photos and names made public. In the US, politicians cannot do such a simple thing as legalize prostitution. News.

    Hillsborough.

    71 arrested in Hillsborough prostitution sting ahead of Super Bowl 55.

  9. #18973

    How to reject bar girls

    Aznluver.

    If you sit at a place, the least popular girls would parade through to sell their companies. The hottest and most popular girls have no need to walk around and approach guys. They would just sit and wait for their regular clients. If you don't like their companies, reject them gently with a sweet smile. Just say "despues" (later), or "Mi amiga aqui ahorra" (my GF will be here now), or just say "Lo siento" (sorry), tip them 1 $ or 2 and steer them away.

    It's better to move around the club with a drink in hand, pick the girls you like and invite them to sit down for a drink or two for physical interviews and inspection. Smile, compliment their beauty and their body features. Girls like to be flattered, so it always works. Lie if you have to hehe. Caress their skin all over, check out to make sure they are dry and smooth, not oily or smelly. Gently pull down their bras and squeeze their boobs. Check for the quality you like. Try to kiss their mouths and grope their crotches. If they welcome your advances, you are likely to have hot sessions in bed.

    Be nice and fun with them and they will treat you nice and sexy.

  10. #18972
    Quote Originally Posted by AZNLover  [View Original Post]
    I'm a Tijuana newbie and have a question of how it works at HK. I was there in the afternoon when it was quiet, I was looking to just sit in a booth, drink, and partake in the sights. But then a girl decided to invite her self in. Anyways, what's the equitte to get rid of a girl or swap her with someone more my taste?
    Just say "No, gracias". Don't buy her a drink. Don't give her money. If you aren't buying her a drink, she won't stay. Just tell her you are not interested. If you feel like that's rude, tell her you are waiting for a friend. These girls hear no all day. They expect it.

    Quote Originally Posted by AZNLover  [View Original Post]
    I ended up getting up from the booth and tipping her a $20 to get away from her, but what's your strategy to shoo away girls you're not interested in?
    TWENTY dollars? Man, you just gave her two days of typical Mexican salary as a gift for bothering you. At most, you give her a dollar to grope her tits or ass for a minute and send her away. "Mas tarde, amor. ".

  11. #18971
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    Just on top of my head for places with many girls.

    Havana in Panama City, it is more like a pick up bar but is full of putas. (no room on site but the ST room is around the corner, and good hotels are nearby).

    Santa Fe RLD, Bogota, full of strip clubs and bars, SGs. Each one may not be as large as HK but the sum is far greater. (room on site).

    La Isla, Medellin, probably the best strip club in Colombia(room on site).

    Gusto, Medellin, a high price night club, this is similar to Havana in Panama City (no room on site).

    Scandalllo, Sao Paulo, this is another high end night club(room on site).

    Most of these places do not have pushy waiters like in HK. You can get up charged in Santa Fe but normal time a beer is like USD 2 in the club.

    There are many dirt cheap brothels in South America. You can go to Lima forum to search for the word chongo to read about it. Several large ones can have close to 100 rooms. Just imaging Cascadas with a girl standing outside of each room, you pick one and just do it right in the room. Most chongos have bar and some have stripper show.
    Great info. I am looking to branch out and this is valuable intel.

  12. #18970
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruhbruh  [View Original Post]
    Are there any other cities in Mexico (or central south America) that have stripclub / brothel like Hong Kong or Adelitas?

    If there are, what are the famous ones?
    Just on top of my head for places with many girls.

    Havana in Panama City, it is more like a pick up bar but is full of putas. (no room on site but the ST room is around the corner, and good hotels are nearby).

    Santa Fe RLD, Bogota, full of strip clubs and bars, SGs. Each one may not be as large as HK but the sum is far greater. (room on site).

    La Isla, Medellin, probably the best strip club in Colombia(room on site).

    Gusto, Medellin, a high price night club, this is similar to Havana in Panama City (no room on site).

    Scandalllo, Sao Paulo, this is another high end night club(room on site).

    Most of these places do not have pushy waiters like in HK. You can get up charged in Santa Fe but normal time a beer is like USD 2 in the club. Colombian looks are not as diverse as Mexico. For example, it's rare to find European look, a real blonde or blue eyes, they are just very rare.

    There are many dirt cheap brothels in South America. You can go to Lima forum to search for the word chongo to read about it. Several large ones can have close to 100 rooms. Just imaging Cascada with a girl standing outside of each room, you pick one and just do it right in the room. Most chongos have bar and some have stripper show.

  13. #18969
    Quote Originally Posted by StRobert  [View Original Post]
    He, he guys If you complain about the service at Zona Norte, here's the reality. In Tampa, Florida, USA. 71 guys arrested in prostitution sting and photos and names made public. In the US, politicians cannot do such a simple thing as legalize prostitution. : NEWS.

    HILLSBOROUGH.

    71 arrested in Hillsborough prostitution sting ahead of Super Bowl 55.

    Sheriff Chad Chronister said the goal of targeting would-be johns is to reduce the demand for prostitutes and discourage human traffickers.

    Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister on Monday announces the results of a monthlong undercover sting operation targeting would-be johns who solicited prostitutes. More than 70 people were arrested.

    Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister on Monday announces the results of a monthlong undercover sting operation targeting would-be johns who solicited prostitutes. More than 70 people were arrested. Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office.

    By Tony Marrero.

    Published Jan. 11.

    Updated Jan. 11.

    TAMPA Hillsborough deputies have arrested more than 70 people in a monthlong undercover prostitution sting, Sheriff Chad Chronister announced Monday.

    In "Operation Interception," which ran from Dec. 7 to Jan. 9, undercover detectives posted online ads and female detectives posed as prostitutes on the street, resulting the arrest of 71 men who agreed to pay for sex, Chronister said at a news conference. The men face charges of soliciting another to commit prostitution or entering / remaining in a place for prostitution.

    Chronister said the goal of the operations and others like it is to reduce the demand for prostitution as a tactic to fight human trafficking, especially in the coming weeks ahead of Super Bowl 55. Officials say they expect an influx of human traffickers into the area to try to capitalize on the crowds in town for the game set for Feb. 7.

    "Our goal is to intercept those involved in sexual exploitation before they're able to take advantage of the vulnerable individuals in our community and ultimately, hopefully, deter others," Chronister said, noting Monday is National Human Trafficking Awareness Day.

    He added later: "We know from past experience with major sporting events there will be some who travel for the exclusive purpose of taking advantage of women and children. ".

    The men arrested range in age from 20 to 62. Among them was Ronnie Johnson III, a Hillsborough County firefighter assigned to Station 7 in Brandon, according to the Sheriff's Office. Johnson was arrested on Dec. 7, the first day of the operation, on a charge of soliciting another to commit prostitution and was released from the county jail later the same day after posting $500, records show.

    Johnson was hired as a Hillsborough County firefighter on July 13. He submitted his resignation from his position as a firefighter following his arrest, and is no longer employed with Hillsborough County.

    Chronister said the demand for prostitutes remains high in Tampa, which he said is an incentive for human traffickers to exploit people into sex work.

    "It all comes back to the demand, it all comes back to the demand and that's why our operations are focused on eradicating the demand," he said.

    Eight people were arrested on human trafficking charges in Hillsborough County last year and six in 2019, according to the Sheriff's Office.

    Chronister said there are signs the stings are having an impact. As evidence, the Sheriff's Office released a screengrab of a message exchange between an undercover detective and a would-be john who decided not to meet.

    "Trying to stay away from getting stung. And winding up on a poster while sheriff cronester sic explains to the media LOL," the man wrote in the message.

    Along with enforcement operations, Chronister said, officials are also working on a prevention campaign.
    There are ways to detect if online ads are posted by US police. A person experienced in responding to these ads will know. If you have spoken to prostitutes for many years you can tell when you are talking to a pretend pro.

    I used to pick up street walkers decades ago; it is more tricky to detect these as you need to talk to them first and they will nab you even if you don't talk money. My advice would be to surreptitiously record the conversation as when you realize from the conversation that she is not a pro and attempt to walk away before soliciting her you will be arrested. Use the recording in your defense.

  14. #18968

    Comparison: Zona Norte Tijuana to Tampa Florida USA

    He, he guys If you complain about the service at Zona Norte, here's the reality. In Tampa, Florida, USA. 71 guys arrested in prostitution sting and photos and names made public. In the US, politicians cannot do such a simple thing as legalize prostitution. : NEWS.

    HILLSBOROUGH.

    71 arrested in Hillsborough prostitution sting ahead of Super Bowl 55.

    Sheriff Chad Chronister said the goal of targeting would-be johns is to reduce the demand for prostitutes and discourage human traffickers.

    Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister on Monday announces the results of a monthlong undercover sting operation targeting would-be johns who solicited prostitutes. More than 70 people were arrested.

    Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister on Monday announces the results of a monthlong undercover sting operation targeting would-be johns who solicited prostitutes. More than 70 people were arrested. Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office.

    By Tony Marrero.

    Published Jan. 11.

    Updated Jan. 11.

    TAMPA — Hillsborough deputies have arrested more than 70 people in a monthlong undercover prostitution sting, Sheriff Chad Chronister announced Monday.

    In "Operation Interception," which ran from Dec. 7 to Jan. 9, undercover detectives posted online ads and female detectives posed as prostitutes on the street, resulting the arrest of 71 men who agreed to pay for sex, Chronister said at a news conference. The men face charges of soliciting another to commit prostitution or entering / remaining in a place for prostitution.

    Chronister said the goal of the operations and others like it is to reduce the demand for prostitution as a tactic to fight human trafficking, especially in the coming weeks ahead of Super Bowl 55. Officials say they expect an influx of human traffickers into the area to try to capitalize on the crowds in town for the game set for Feb. 7.

    "Our goal is to intercept those involved in sexual exploitation before they're able to take advantage of the vulnerable individuals in our community and ultimately, hopefully, deter others," Chronister said, noting Monday is National Human Trafficking Awareness Day.

    He added later: "We know from past experience with major sporting events there will be some who travel for the exclusive purpose of taking advantage of women and children. ".

    The men arrested range in age from 20 to 62. Among them was Ronnie Johnson III, a Hillsborough County firefighter assigned to Station 7 in Brandon, according to the Sheriff's Office. Johnson was arrested on Dec. 7, the first day of the operation, on a charge of soliciting another to commit prostitution and was released from the county jail later the same day after posting $500, records show.

    Johnson was hired as a Hillsborough County firefighter on July 13. He submitted his resignation from his position as a firefighter following his arrest, and is no longer employed with Hillsborough County.

    Chronister said the demand for prostitutes remains high in Tampa, which he said is an incentive for human traffickers to exploit people into sex work.

    "It all comes back to the demand, it all comes back to the demand and that's why our operations are focused on eradicating the demand," he said.

    Eight people were arrested on human trafficking charges in Hillsborough County last year and six in 2019, according to the Sheriff's Office.

    Chronister said there are signs the stings are having an impact. As evidence, the Sheriff's Office released a screengrab of a message exchange between an undercover detective and a would-be john who decided not to meet.

    "Trying to stay away from getting stung. And winding up on a poster while sheriff cronester sic explains to the media LOL," the man wrote in the message.

    Along with enforcement operations, Chronister said, officials are also working on a prevention campaign.

  15. #18967
    I'm a Tijuana newbie and have a question of how it works at HK. I was there in the afternoon when it was quiet, I was looking to just sit in a booth, drink, and partake in the sights. But then a girl decided to invite her self in. Anyways, what's the equitte to get rid of a girl or swap her with someone more my taste?

    I ended up getting up from the booth and tipping her a $20 to get away from her, but what's your strategy to shoo away girls you're not interested in?

    Thanks.

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