General Reports

[LuvMexicanas]

Finally making it back out for a visit after a very long 6 month absence. Had a huge hit in my life recently that has prompted the need for a quick trip to clear my mind and get back to a happy place so to speak even if just for a 48 hour bombing run.

Not my first trip by any means but a lot can change in 6 months. I know typically right after the holidays it's slim pickings. But I'm not too worried. Always some hotties. And my motto is "I just need one" I will also play the escort scene if needed. But am curious on what you guys think is the status of talent at the bars right now?

Also, anyone have any luck with FB girls these days? Used to connect with some but most of the groups I was part of closed down.

Will report back.

A city like Tijuana that has as many working girls as anywhere in the western hemisphere will always produce a viable prospect as long as you're not one of those guys that has to have a 9 or better.

[SlickVick]

Finally making it back out for a visit after a very long 6 month absence. Had a huge hit in my life recently that has prompted the need for a quick trip to clear my mind and get back to a happy place so to speak even if just for a 48 hour bombing run.

Not my first trip by any means but a lot can change in 6 months. I know typically right after the holidays it's slim pickings. But I'm not too worried. Always some hotties. And my motto is "I just need one" I will also play the escort scene if needed. But am curious on what you guys think is the status of talent at the bars right now?

Also, anyone have any luck with FB girls these days? Used to connect with some but most of the groups I was part of closed down.

Will report back.

[ScatManDoo]

I did a walk-thru on New Years Eve and it was really bad. At 7:30 PM there might have been only 5 or 6 chicas dancing or standing and available with another 5 or 6 in booths with hombres. Must have been 40 or 50 men in only the north half of the downstairs. Upstairs was open but not many people up there in the early evening on NYE.

Walked through again on new years day / evening at around 10 PM and number had improved greatly with easily more than 40 chicas in the entire downstairs areas. Still a sausage fest as the men looked to be outnumbering the women about 2:1.

Sorry, I thought I was posting in the Hong Kong thread.

[ScatManDoo]

Decided to spend the New Year's Eve in Tijuana this year. Arrived in Tijuana at 9:30 pm. The cab driver asked $10 for HK. I said "No" and got out of the car. He got out after me and told the next driver also about $10. However the next driver agreed at $7, so I hoped in the car. Usually I pay only $5. Anyway, it was too cold and I didn't want to stand there too long haggling with the drivers for a couple of dollars.

Talent was "OK" at HK. Could not spot a single good looking chica at LC and TB. Adelitas was also low on talent. Chicago also had no lookers. HK was a sausage fest. Girls did not even want a ficha, they wanted to arriba right away, so that they could rush you and get back in bar for the next customer. Did the countdown and mid night toast at HK and then headed to Adelitas. Did a 22 year old, no babies chica from Sinaloa. 1 HR for $140. Usually I can get them for $100 -$120 for hour, but due to New Year's Eve crowd she did not go down. Session was OK.

Won't visit Tijuana for New Years henceforth, the selection of Chicas is very slim. I think till February the pickings are going to be slim.

I did a walk-thru on New Years Eve and it was really bad. At 7:30 PM there might have been only 5 or 6 chicas dancing or standing and available with another 5 or 6 in booths with hombres. Must have been 40 or 50 men in only the north half of the downstairs. Upstairs was open but not many people up there in the early evening on NYE.

Walked through again on new years day / evening at around 10 PM and number had improved greatly with easily more than 40 chicas in the entire downstairs areas. Still a sausage fest as the men looked to be outnumbering the women about 2:1.

[Monger234]

Decided to spend the New Year's Eve in Tijuana this year. Arrived in Tijuana at 9:30 pm. The cab driver asked $10 for HK. I said "No" and got out of the car. He got out after me and told the next driver also about $10. However the next driver agreed at $7, so I hoped in the car. Usually I pay only $5. Anyway, it was too cold and I didn't want to stand there too long haggling with the drivers for a couple of dollars.

Talent was "OK" at HK. Could not spot a single good looking chica at LC and TB. Adelitas was also low on talent. Chicago also had no lookers. HK was a sausage fest. Girls did not even want a ficha, they wanted to arriba right away, so that they could rush you and get back in bar for the next customer. Did the countdown and mid night toast at HK and then headed to Adelitas. Did a 22 year old, no babies chica from Sinaloa. 1 HR for $140. Usually I can get them for $100 -$120 for hour, but due to New Year's Eve crowd she did not go down. Session was OK.

Won't visit Tijuana for New Years henceforth, the selection of Chicas is very slim. I think till February the pickings are going to be slim.

[Scudrucker]

That was a great report Zdaman101, and I as well as others have made similar errors with room location. As far as Cascades, mention in the booking for an upper floor and remind them with the tip. I think a tip is smart here as I always have a bum remote or safe not functioning. Bring ear plugs and a sleep mask just in case (they weigh nothing and can make a big difference). You had great luck with the chicas and you communicated what you wanted. Enjoyed the report.

Sr.

[Aviator400]

Zdaman101, excellent report. Yes, I enjoyed reading about your adventures.

I am planning to be in Tijuana 1/8, just for the one night. I will be staying at Cascadas. PM me if you want to meet. Like you, I do not share with friends who would not understand and would not have the brass to come down with me.

[Zdaman101]

Here is the second installment of my trip report. Please let me know if anything has any feedback or questions!

If you haven't read my first day's report, please scroll down to find it. I finally decided to get up after a not-so-great night of sleep. Wanted to get breakfast and feel a bit better so went off on a stroll. The morning was overcast and dreary. Between that and the streets being empty at that time in the morning, it didn't look like a place I should be wondering around in. However I wanted to explore so off I went. Headed towards Benito Juarez with the thought of maybe seeing something that looked good. Didn't see much so decided to walk over to McDonalds. Ate there and walked around the shops that were starting to setup for the day. At this point I knew I needed to bang out some work so went back towards the hotel. Sat in my room and worked until closer to noon when I decided to shut down the laptop for the day. Decided to go down to the restaurant that is in Cascades and have lunch. Sat out on the patio overlooking the alley and took in the view with a few cervezas.

After lunch, which was average at best and three beers I was back in party mode. While scanning the street one SG caught my eye and smiled up at me. When I was leaving she gave me the come over here wave so off I went. She wasn't necessarily my type, but reminded me of someone I had a thing for back in college. Thicker in a soccer girl kind of way with big eyes (see a pattern yet?) big ass (that was enhanced), smaller bees, and brown hair. Seemed a bit reserved so had pretty low expectations of the session, but needless to say wanted to pretend fuck someone from back when. Agreed on $20 USD and up we went. This session was the complete opposite as the previous nights. Granted the equivalent was only a $5 difference, but this girl was not about to get into it or even show anything else without an upcharge. This was honestly what I was expecting and kind of assumed last night was an exception so told her I'the give her another $20 if she did as I said and strip down and deepthroat my cock. Never seen a top come off so fast in my life! She was quickly deepthroat me to the best of her ability, which wasn't much. I laid back and took in the experience before telling her to climb on top and ride me cow girl. She did as instructed and I enjoyed the view for a good 5 minutes before she wanted to change positions so she didn't have to work as much. At this point I was over this girl so decided I was just going to go to pound town from behind and be done as quickly as possible. I did enjoy the view with her big ass sticking up at me and gave it a few smacks. After the second smack she spoke for the first time as she said "Ouch". Thought that was ironic. Finished in that position and then sent her on her way. She asked for a tip after the upcharge and I politely closed the door in her face.

Decided to head downstairs and check out the scenery in HK. Had my free beer, did a lap and didn't see much. My masero said the action would pick up in an hour or two. I also noticed that after three releases in less than a day, my refractory period wasn't keeping up so decided I would take a walk to the pharmacy and assist my little buddy. Started walking and decided to also check out Revolution so wound up at a pharmacy there. After buying a few different things and taking my little blue pill I ended up at the Border Psyco brew pub. Had a handful of different MX beers and enjoyed a soccer match with a few guys from Europe before heading back towards Zona Norte. Made it back and decided to do HK again. Hung out tipping, etc. Until the shaving cream show started. Wound up having a great time experiencing that with a group of 6 others that were 4 guys and 2 girls. We all had a blast and by the end of it had one of the girls with the group shoving my face into the chica on stage. That was a wild time. Pretty sure I could have taken the girl from the group upstairs but didn't want to start any trouble so didn't attempt. Got cleaned up and the girl from the stage came over to hang out. My mesero mentioned that she was a loco one so I played that up 100%. Told her I was into some crazy shit, which I am, but wasn't expecting any of the girls to get down with it. This girl was all game though. To describe her she had perky natural looking sees and natural red hair. Almost looked like she was from the states, but she said she wasn't. Definitely not my type, but I don't discriminate and was having fun with her.

After telling her all the crazy shit I can get into and would do to her she practically forced me upstairs. Only girl that didn't need to use lube the entire trip. She was extremely wet with excitement, or maybe the shaving cream did something to her. Ended up being the best session of the week as we got into all sorts of craziness. Pretty sure I could write a book about the experience, but in order to save time lets just say we used every inch of that room and the sheets doubled as restraints at times. She took it like a champ and was gone for closer to 1. 5 hours and didn't ask for a dime more. I definitely tipped accordingly and off she went.

That session took it all out of me but I still wanted to make the best of the evening. Walked her back to the club and then over to the taco stand again. Decided to give Adelitas a shot and told myself I'the at least have a beer and enjoy the show. Went in and bellied up to the bar. Ordered a beer and had a two for one special so had to get two. At this point between my beers earlier plus the food, I was done with beer, but I'm not a quitter so was determined to get them down. Watched the show towards the front of the room and chatted with a few chicas. Nothing good enough to get me excited about another round though so after the beers called it a night. Was hoping I'the get a better sleep tonight, but that wasn't the case. Same issue as yesterday. I wanted to be rested so I could make it further into the night, but that didn't seem like it was going to happen.

I'll abbreviate my last day as I did very little mongering. I was so worn out from two nights of lack of sleep that all I had in me was enough to fuck the SG from the first night after working a bit more. Woke up and found a Starbucks to work out of and get enough coffee in me to make it a while. Found an AirBnB out in Playas and decided I would stay there so that I could at least get one good night's sleep in. After working took an uber back to Cascades, fucked the SG, which was a pretty good session, and then grabbed my stuff and headed out to playas. Enjoyed the day out there with my host and had a great lunch and dinner on the strip there.

Finally had a great night's sleep and headed back for the border in case it was a crazy wait. About 11 am I pulled up to PedWest and had a 3 min wait in line. After which I crossed right over and decided to take an Uber to the airport instead of finding the trolley, etc.

Final thoughts: I had a great time overall. I wished I would have known about the issues with the room at Cascades. I would have booked a room elsewhere in advance and used that room for mongering only. I think more sleep would have made it a lot easier to get in a ton more sessions. I was surprised with the quality of the SGs. I talked to a few that weren't mentioned here as it didn't lead to sexy time, but they were beautiful and had good personalities. HK was a great time, but I thought I'the be able to spend more time in there than I actually was able to. I don't think I could spend more than 2-3 hours in there at a time unless I was with a bunch of buddies. Being alone made it a bit harder. In my trip next week I'll be using points to stay at the Fairfield Inn outside of Zona Norte. Plan to see some of the escorts as well as mix in trips to Zona Norte. After learning from my first time I'm hoping to triple my sessions and leave satisfied. Please let me know if you would recommend that I do anything different, or if you'the like to meet up while I'm down there. Don't have any friends back home that I can share this side of me with, so always good to discuss with others. Hope you enjoyed!

TLDR: I came, I saw, I conquered!

[Zdaman101]

As promised, and in anticipation of being down there for 3 days next week (1/7 – 1/10) I thought I would put up my trip report from 6 months ago.

Day 1.

The idea of taking a trip to Tijuana all started when backpage shut down and all my local connections started to dry up. Not that I frequented a lot, but when I was in the mood it was nice to be able to setup pretty quick. Needless to say that was gone and so I started to search around for new places to monger. At first was looking at DR, but I didn't want to spend half a day minimum for travel time. That is when I realized I could get a direct flight to San Diego and hop a trolley down to Tijuana. Ship it! So, I booked a flight for 3 weeks out and started doing my research.

Unfortunately, I didn't find this site at that time, otherwise the trip report would have been up shortly thereafter. However, I had found everything I needed to be on my way. Flew direct into San Diego with nothing more than a backpack of necessities. Landed around noon and I hopped on the 992 bus to downtown. Once there I hit up the Chase bank across the street from the trolley and grabbed a quick bite to eat. Hopped on the trolley and was headed south. I would say from walking out of the airport to the moment I pulled up at the border was maybe 1. 5 hours total. Longer than other reports I read, but still not too bad. At this point I exchanged my dollars to pesos, grabbed one last diet coke from McDonalds (hate the MX version) and crossed. MX border patrol lady laughed when I told her I was coming down to enjoy the bars / nightclubs. She was young and good looking so was mildly embarrassed, but whatever, let's go get laid.

Crossing took all of five minutes and I was on my way. Never found the taxi pool so ended up at the big round-about area and wasn't quite sure where to go. Waved down a taxi driving by and said Hong Kong. $200 pesos later I was there. In hindsight I know I got ripped off, but wasn't sure where I was and didn't care at that point as I had way more cash than I was comfortable walking around with. My plan was to stay at Cascades for the trip since it was Monday and they had the crazy 80% off for the first two days. Walked over to the club to purchase my VIP card and then over to the hotel to attempt an early check in. I was only 30 minutes early, but at first, they told me my room wasn't ready. After a tip they said it was and went ahead with the check in. Went up the fourth floor to get my money in the safe and cleaning lady was walking right out. I have no clue what she mopped the floor with, but it was wet and slippery for the remainder of my stay, which I wasn't too thrilled about.

Get my money in the safe, shower and off to the club I go. Get there around 4 pm and immediately realize I made an awesome choice. The place had more beautiful women than I had ever seen all at once outside of Vegas in my life. I start with my free beer and sit at the bar just taking it all in. I eventually take a seat at one of the couches and have a great time handing out dollars and groping as well as watching the girls on stage. Everyone complains about the meseros, but I gave him 100 pesos off the top and told him to keep the other guys away from me and not to annoy me and I'the take care of him. He was my best friend the rest of the trip after that first convo. At one point he asked what I was looking for and he'the see what he could find for me.

He brought over the exact type of girl I mentioned, and I was thrilled. Can't remember her name for the life of me, but she was light skinned, medium height with small ds and big beautiful eyes. More of a spinner type, but still had a perfectly shaped ass. She was able to speak English so no Google Translate in the club. We clicked and had a good time just shooting the shit. She enjoyed watching / spending my ones on the other girls, so we did that for a bit. She had a few fichas and then we decided to head upstairs. Upstairs we had a great time as the girl was relatively passionate and very much into the entire session. We got into a couple positions, and she rode me to completion at the end. For my first experience I couldn't complain. I was definitely expecting it to be more mechanical, but was pleasantly surprised. Afterwards we head back down and I resume my position at the table. Tip a bit more have a few more beers and then decide to take a stroll around the block.

First take a lap around just taking in the area. It seems that all the action is within the one block so after a lap I decide to grab a taco at the stand on Coahuila and Ninos and map out where to next. The taco was so effing good I ordered another. To this day and in my non-mongering travels to MX I haven't found a better taco! Decide to hit up Adelitas and if I'm not enjoying the scenery head over to Chavelles or Bar Tropical. Go to all three and don't see anything that is doing it for me, and at this point am starting to feel the effects of waking so early. Decide to do one more lap around before hitting the sack for the night.

While doing my lap a SG stops me as I'm coming around the corner of Constitution and the alley and starts talking to me. I'm mildly buzzed but am surprised at how good she looks. Maybe 5'2" tight stomach with a nice ass, and natural sees. Darker skin than my previous chica. Pretty enough face for me. She said she was local to Tijuana and lived over in playas. We agree on 500 pesos and head back to my room. Once up there we get into a pretty hot session right away. At this point I've got a good buzz going and just had a release a few hours ago so she was going to have to earn the money. She took it like a champ, and we went through maybe 5 positions. Only weird part was that when I was behind her in doggy she kept asking if I wanted to fuck her ass. I didn't know if she was trying to upsell me, or if she just truly loved it, but I was going with the former. Needless to say, that isn't my thing so just stuck with the hole I was already in. We went for maybe 45 minutes before finally releasing and then we laid in a heap of sweat for another 20 minutes or so just shooting the shit. Again, way more of a GFE experience than I was expecting. Is this what I should get used to each time?

Either way tipped her 300 pesos and she was on her way. I was exhausted so passed out pretty quickly. Now I'the like to let anyone that is considering staying at Cascades what my biggest gripe was. Although it is super convenient, you better be on the 6th floor (I've read it's not near as bad up there) or else you are going to have a tough time sleeping. I was on the 4th floor and come 2 am, was wide awake from not only the heels clicking, but the damn curtain to my room wouldn't go down all the way so the light illuminating the outside hallway was right in my face all. Night. Long. I tried a few different things to block it out but wasn't happening.

[Zdaman101]

As promised, and in anticipation of being down there for 3 days next week (1/7 – 1/10) I thought I would put up my trip report from 6 months ago.

Day 1.

The idea of taking a trip to Tijuana all started when backpage shut down and all my local connections started to dry up. Not that I frequented a lot, but when I was in the mood it was nice to be able to setup pretty quick. Needless to say that was gone and so I started to search around for new places to monger. At first was looking at DR, but I didn't want to spend half a day minimum for travel time. That is when I realized I could get a direct flight to San Diego and hop a trolley down to Tijuana. Ship it! So, I booked a flight for 3 weeks out and started doing my research.

Unfortunately, I didn't find this site at that time, otherwise the trip report would have been up shortly thereafter. However, I had found everything I needed to be on my way. Flew direct into San Diego with nothing more than a backpack of necessities. Landed around noon and I hopped on the 992 bus to downtown. Once there I hit up the Chase bank across the street from the trolley and grabbed a quick bite to eat. Hopped on the trolley and was headed south. I would say from walking out of the airport to the moment I pulled up at the border was maybe 1. 5 hours total. Longer than other reports I read, but still not too bad. At this point I exchanged my dollars to pesos, grabbed one last diet coke from McDonalds (hate the MX version) and crossed. MX border patrol lady laughed when I told her I was coming down to enjoy the bars / nightclubs. She was young and good looking so was mildly embarrassed, but whatever, let's go get laid.

Crossing took all of five minutes and I was on my way. Never found the taxi pool so ended up at the big round-about area and wasn't quite sure where to go. Waved down a taxi driving by and said Hong Kong. $200 pesos later I was there. In hindsight I know I got ripped off, but wasn't sure where I was and didn't care at that point as I had way more cash than I was comfortable walking around with. My plan was to stay at Cascades for the trip since it was Monday and they had the crazy 80% off for the first two days. Walked over to the club to purchase my VIP card and then over to the hotel to attempt an early check in. I was only 30 minutes early, but at first, they told me my room wasn't ready. After a tip they said it was and went ahead with the check in. Went up the fourth floor to get my money in the safe and cleaning lady was walking right out. I have no clue what she mopped the floor with, but it was wet and slippery for the remainder of my stay, which I wasn't too thrilled about.

Get my money in the safe, shower and off to the club I go. Get there around 4 pm and immediately realize I made an awesome choice. The place had more beautiful women than I had ever seen all at once outside of Vegas in my life. I start with my free beer and sit at the bar just taking it all in. I eventually take a seat at one of the couches and have a great time handing out dollars and groping as well as watching the girls on stage. Everyone complains about the maseros, but I gave him 100 pesos off the top and told him to keep the other guys away from me and not to annoy me and I'the take care of him. He was my best friend the rest of the trip after that first convo. At one point he asked what I was looking for and he'the see what he could find for me.

He brought over the exact type of girl I mentioned, and I was thrilled. Can't remember her name for the life of me, but she was light skinned, medium height with small Ds and big beautiful eyes. More of a spinner type, but still had a perfectly shaped ass. She was able to speak English so no Google Translate in the club. We clicked and had a good time just shooting the shit. She enjoyed watching / spending my ones on the other girls, so we did that for a bit. She had a few fichas and then we decided to head upstairs. Upstairs we had a great time as the girl was relatively passionate and very much into the entire session. We got into a couple positions, and she rode me to completion at the end. For my first experience I couldn't complain. I was definitely expecting it to be more mechanical, but was pleasantly surprised. Afterwards we head back down and I resume my position at the table. Tip a bit more have a few more beers and then decide to take a stroll around the block.

First take a lap around just taking in the area. It seems that all the action is within the one block so after a lap I decide to grab a taco at the stand on Coahuila and Ninos and map out where to next. The taco was so effing good I ordered another. To this day and in my non-mongering travels to MX I haven't found a better taco! Decide to hit up Adelitas and if I'm not enjoying the scenery head over to Chavelles or Bar Tropical. Go to all three and don't see anything that is doing it for me, and at this point am starting to feel the effects of waking so early. Decide to do one more lap around before hitting the sack for the night.

While doing my lap a SG stops me as I'm coming around the corner of Constitution and the alley and starts talking to me. I'm mildly buzzed but am surprised at how good she looks. Maybe 5'2" tight stomach with a nice ass, and natural sees. Darker skin than my previous chica. Pretty enough face for me. She said she was local to Tijuana and lived over in playas. We agree on 500 pesos and head back to my room. Once up there we get into a pretty hot session right away. At this point I've got a good buzz going and just had a release a few hours ago so she was going to have to earn the money. She took it like a champ, and we went through maybe 5 positions. Only weird part was that when I was behind her in doggy she kept asking if I wanted to fuck her ass. I didn't know if she was trying to upsell me, or if she just truly loved it, but I was going with the former. Needless to say, that isn't my thing so just stuck with the hole I was already in. We went for maybe 45 minutes before finally releasing and then we laid in a heap of sweat for another 20 minutes or so just shooting the shit. Again, way more of a GFE experience than I was expecting. Is this what I should get used to each time?

Either way tipped her 300 pesos and she was on her way. I was exhausted so passed out pretty quickly. Now I'the like to let anyone that is considering staying at Cascades what my biggest gripe was. Although it is super convenient, you better be on the 6th floor (I've read it's not near as bad up there) or else you are going to have a tough time sleeping. I was on the 4th floor and come 2 am, was wide awake from not only the heels clicking, but the damn curtain to my room wouldn't go down all the way so the light illuminating the outside hallway was right in my face all. Night. Long. I tried a few different things to block it out but wasn't happening. This is getting long so I'll break it up into multiple posts.

[Muncher8888]

"Container" was mentioned by HK driver as a great pick up place.

Separately, how about that group of bars and restaurant's west of Plaza Rio?

[Travv]

I bought a ultrasmall portable ceramic electric heater from Walmart for the HK rooms some time ago. Cost is $9. 98 - when you get to HK, plug it in and leave it running so after an hour or two, your room feels warm. Chicas really hate cold rooms - 2 of them liked my heater so much I bought two more from Walmart as Christmas presents to them.

Motion seconded.

Anyone know what the h is up with HKs individual hotel room heating?

Sometimes even on max (30 c) it's blowing cold air.

[Muncher8888]

freezing hotel rooms was not my idea of fun.

Motion seconded.

Anyone know what the h is up with HKs individual hotel room heating?

Sometimes even on max (30 c) it's blowing cold air.

[Zdaman101]

Hey all,

Been lurking on the site ever since purchasing my tix a few weeks ago to head out to the west coast. Planning on spending Jan 7-10 in Tijuana. Staying at the Fairfield Inn and planning to do a mixture of both Zona Norte as well as check out some of the escorts. In anticipation of going I decided I would do a trip report from my previous trip this year (before I found this site) and post it up. Hopefully I can get some feedback or any tips / tricks others may have. Should be up in the next day or so; but wanted to see if anyone else will be down that way when I am? Would love to meet up and have a wingman or two this time around. I unfortunately do not have access to PM yet as I just realized I can't buy with CC so had to mail my money out. Hope to hear from you all!

[Lefeu]

We arrived around 6 pm, straight to HK club. I was a little disappointed, as the line up was sparse. After one beer, my wingman and I hit the streets, after swallowing some tacos. The street scene was equally subdued. I managed to run into Diana, an SG that I had seen before and liked. That became my first punt.

After that, we visited a small club, whose name I forgot. To my surprise, there were a few eye candies, unfortunately, they were taken. After a beer there, we headed to Adelita. By that time, it was past 9 pm and the place was hopping. Plenty of girls and plenty of eye candy. But none of us went arriba.

Instead, decided to revisit HK, and the place was full of eye candy. Surprised at the difference between a couple of hours. After one beer, I did not find one that struck my fancy, and we decided to hit the street again. The same phenomena, more girls and more eye candy. It did not take me long to find my love. She asked for more money and I accepted. Up we go for a nice romp. After that, we called it a night.

This was probably the first time I mongered in Tijuana in the middle of winter. It was not pleasant, as it was nice and warm inside the club but fairly cold in the street. Worse, having a session with an SG in those freezing hotel rooms was not my idea of fun. I think next time, I will skip the SGs until it warms up a little bit.